＂Paying For Butt Space？＂ - Plus Sized Passengers OUTRAGED Over Airline’s ‘Fat Shaming’ Policy
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Southwest Airlines is changing a long-standing policy for plus-size travelers. Starting January 27th, when flights with assigned seating are taken off, plus size passengers should proactively purchase the needed number of seats prior to travel to ensure the additional adjacent seat is available.
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Extremely important for those of you guys that travel, especially if you travel Southwest.
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And some of you guys, it's a warning because some people are going to think this is discriminating.
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But Southwest rolls out new conditions for plus-size passengers refunds.
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Starting January 27th, when flights with assigned seating being taken off,
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plus-size passengers should proactively purchase the needed number of seats prior to travel
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to ensure the additional adjacent seat is available, as stated on Southwest Airlines' website,
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to advise potential customers, Southwest's website lists a seat width on the Boeing 737 models.
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It flies from 15 1⁄2 inches at the narrows to 17.8 inches at the widest with the arms at the definite seat boundary.
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Jeff Jenkins, founder of plus-size travel blog Chubby Diaries, told USA Today,
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I just hope the consumers are aware of this change, and I wonder if plus-size people will skip out on flying with them at all
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because of them not knowing if the flight is sold out or not, expressing concerns.
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I think that this policy change risks increasing body shame.
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We already know that plus-size passengers are, you know, verbally harassed, are videotaped,
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are sometimes even physically assaulted on flights.
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Southwest Airlines is changing a long-standing policy for plus-size travelers.
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For years, quote, customers of size were encouraged to buy two seats, then apply for a refund after their trip,
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a process that had fewer restrictions on when refunds would be provided.
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But starting January 27th, refunds will only be granted if three conditions are met.
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The flight must depart with at least one open seat, both seats must be in the same fare class,
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and refund requests must be filed within 90 days of travel.
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The refund policy is going to be so much more restricted to you only being able to get a refund for your second seat
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if the flight was not full, which many Southwest flights are full.
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This is not a policy that was bankrupting Southwest, and therefore they've changed it.
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It's part of their, you know, whole package of sort of nickeling and diming customers more.
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The updated policy goes into effect the same day the airline switches to assigned seating on all of its flights.
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The question always comes down to, do you believe that people who are traveling by plane
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are paying for passage from point A to point B, or do you believe that they're paying for, like, butt space?
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Southwest was the best thing that we had for somebody who either couldn't afford to pay for a second seat up front,
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I don't understand this, like, can you press pause right there?
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So, if you live in a, if you got a family of five, can you fit in a one-bedroom apartment?
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Probably not. You probably need three bedrooms.
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Are you taking too much space? Is that fat shaming?
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So, what do we call that? Big family shaming? Procreating shaming?
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What do we call that thing? Is there shaming going there?
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No. Somebody wants to have more kids? You want to eat more.
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Whenever I'm out of shape, it didn't accidentally happen, and I'm out of shape.
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And if you put on weight on any of this stuff, so I kind of like what Southwest is doing here.
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I do think the problem is going to be the following. Say you don't buy the extra ticket, Vinny.
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Yeah. So, you're big. That's right. And we're outside before you get on.
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So, you got 300 passengers in line. They're all pointing at you.
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And they're just waiting to see who's going to be sitting next to that person.
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And you go up, and they notice you've only bought one ticket.
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Some of the most viral videos the next three to six months are going to be those, what
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do you call it, the rage. How dare you call me plus. This is body shaming. It's going
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And you know, this is going to be rough, though.
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Vinny, I promise you, you're visually going to go there.
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You know, when you bring these things, the bags, and you say, no, it's going to fit
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in this thing. And you're pushing it, pushing it in there.
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So, you're going to have to push people. Say, no, my hips fit.
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Are we going to have a measuring device at 17.8 inches?
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Excuse me. If you can't fit in here, you can't get on.
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So, now imagine that you jump in it, but the things rolls up.
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Like, you know what I'm saying? If it rolls up, so you're like, no, I'm good. They're
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like, no, but this is going to fall on somebody.
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I think this is going to be such negative blowback, whatever you want to call it, on
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Southwest with videos going viral, but it's going to be some of the most embarrassing.
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It may cause people to want to go on Southwest flights for no reason just to see people there.
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Like, can you imagine? You book a flight. You're like, oh, I want to see what's going
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to happen to this person. Record, record. It's going to go viral. Get it. She's screaming
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Matter of fact, we're going to fly Southwest to Orlando. That's what we're going to do.
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No, so Southwest did it to itself because what it did is it said, okay, plus size passengers
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had to buy two tickets. This is a fact. And I've known people that had to do this. Nice
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people, people that were respectful, but, you know, were not, had arrived at a condition
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for whatever reason, and they buy two tickets. What Southwest would say previously, remember,
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there's no assigned seating on Southwest, so they just sit down. You know, so they take
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the window in the middle and they say, they show, I've paid for two. I've seen it. Now,
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if the flight was not sold out, in other words, there was space, then Southwest would refund
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the second ticket because they say, well, we didn't sell out the flight. The seat would
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have been there anyway, and you got to use it. That, I think, was a mistake for Southwest.
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I agree. I'm with that. If I'm doing it the right way, and I'm being respectful, and you
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don't give that back to me, and you still take that money, I'm not okay with that.
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Yeah, and so everybody else, you know, nobody else gets to go on and says, wait a minute,
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my carry-on was only four pounds because it's just my laptop. Should you give me part of
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my ticket back because Vinny's got a backpack and a giant laptop? You know? No. So that
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was the old way. The old way, they buy two tickets on there, call Southwest. Hey, there
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is open seats, and so can I get refunded? Now they're saying with assigned seating, this
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is more difficult. Now you need assigned seating. Make sense? So the flight attendants can't
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say, well, you could sit there, and you could sit there, and you can move here, and you can
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move here. Because there's been situations, you see people traveling with kids, and someone's
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in group C, a lady with a kid, and says, hey, I got a six-year-old girl here. I don't
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want to put her in the middle seat between these two people she doesn't know. And somebody
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says, hey, could you move? And they do it nicely, and so the flight attendants do it.
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Well, now you've got assigned seats, and you're going to have a business class and a regular
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class. So now Southwest is, they painted themselves kind of in a corner, where now it makes it look
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like they're taking something away when they were giving something beneficial to people
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out of their own sort of activism, rather than saying, hey, you're larger, you paid
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And you know what? And here's the thing, what nobody's really talking about. How about get
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your ass in shape? Like the fact that we're at the point where you're just like not even
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trying to change, it's not like she caught fat. You know what I mean? You didn't just
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catch it. You know what I mean? Bro, I got hit, dude. You know what? Blue Ocean
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strategy. I don't know where I got caught by that fat bug. Somebody out there should open
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up a freaking airline and call it Big Booty Air or Big Ass Air. No seats. Just get all
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the big ass people in there. Throw snacks, some sodas, and be like, guys, eat crap, do
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whatever, lay on each other. We're going to be in Vegas in 45 minutes. It's like, that should
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be motivating you instead of sitting there complaining about, my hip is going to be, I'm not
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going to pay. How about get in shape? Get in shape. I know that there's some people
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out there that have a disease. You know how small the bathrooms are, right? They're
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small. I was on a Southwest flight. I think it was a miracle. This enormously large guy
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goes in the bathroom. I didn't know how he fit in there. He get in there and they close
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the door. He comes out five minutes later. He was still square for a while. Like a
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pack, like a cookie dough in a freaking tube. Oh, what? No, that was great. Big Booty
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Airlines. This is what they call Big Booty Air. Body shaming. Adam. You guys are body
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shaming today. Are you comfortable talking about this? I'm very comfortable. Well, this
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whole coddling of the American mind and using terms that are inclusive, it's like, you're
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not plus sized. You're not full figured. You're just fat. You're obese. What figure, what are
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you, a hexagon? So all these words that have been changed, all these words that have been
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changed, you know, you're no longer a, you're no longer a woman. You're a birthing person.
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Yeah. You know, you have a front hole, not a uterus anymore. They're not, they're not illegal
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aliens. They're newcomers. Welcome. Come on in. Here's your EBD card. I'm spherically
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enhanced. There you go, Tom. All these things. You're not homeless. You're unhoused. Just
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stop it. You're big. You're fat. You're ugly. Deal with it. What's happened is people want
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to use inclusive language and they want to feel like everyone wants to feel to protect
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your feelings and safe spaces. And I get it. But what happens is you create an entire civilization,
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a generation of soft individuals. We see the stories about kids bringing their parents
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to job interviews, right? It's like you're, you're raising these kids to be completely
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soft. What's happening also is shaming needs to be okay. Dude, you are fat. Get in the
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gym. Like you just said, I'll tell you one last story. As far as like you said, it could
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be a business model about getting your money back. If you're sitting next to a big fat person
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on a plane, one, one time before we started flying private, things are going, we're awarded
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a value attainment world. Uh, we flew out to LA. It was me, you and Tigran. I don't know
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if you remember. And, uh, you were sitting at the front Tigran. I don't know where he was
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sitting, but I was in the back PVD and I told him, put them all the way in the back
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by the bathroom. I was, I was all the way back there. I really was. And I said, at the
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very least, get me a window seat. And there it was, you know, like you think you have
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the middle seat open and then it's like, well, we're done loading with the passengers.
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We got to come over the passengers. And then you see her big Bertha coming down the aisle.
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I'm looking around. I see every seat taken and I see a middle seat next to me. And it's
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just like, boom, boom. Here she comes. I'm like, oh, she's coming this way. And then it's
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like, excuse me. Oh, you're next to my seat. I'm like, oh, Tigran comes to the bathroom about
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an hour later. He sees me. I'm like in the window. He just laughs at me. I would have got
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a refund for that according to Southwest Airlines. Yeah. I mean, because big girls need love
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too, but not fun to sit next to that lady. On a serious angle, a serious number, you
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talk about number scream, Tom, how many percent of Americans are obese? 45%. 42% of Americans.
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That's 141 million Americans are obese. 10% are severely obese. All right. And kids and teens
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ages two to 19, 20% of the kids are obese and it's borderline getting big fat people
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in this country. I'm sorry. It is what it is. Get your ass in shape. And by the way, when
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a kid, when you see a kid, Pat, when you see a, uh, a six year old, seven year old, like
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that's child abuse. He's not, what are you feeding that kid? This is why, well, this is
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why RFK is so against what we're feeding kids. Speaking of RFK, do you remember the video you
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showed one time? Get the soda machines out of schools of JFK and saying basically
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like our kids are, have not, uh, used to go to the gym. Our kids are getting fat
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now and we need a kid who can do a pushup and a sit up. Uh, we've got, we've gained
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so much weight. We've gained so much weight as a country in the last 50 years that
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this is sort of the ramifications of the decisions. I don't want to spend this much
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time on these stories. I'm going to go through it faster. But the point is this is
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happening. It's real causing Southwest airlines to expose it because it's costing
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them money. They need to make money. But at the same time, unfortunately, it's also
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the reason why so many people are using GLP ones. It's also why it was Zempick is on
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fire right now. I see some people I haven't seen for a year. I see them. I'm like, I
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don't even recognize you. Yeah. What happened to you? And I'm like, Jen's like, babe, did
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you see that? Yeah. Is that her sister or is that her? No, that's her. Wow.
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Now they split in half. Yeah. And I know it's not because they're 24 seven
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working at four or five o'clock in the morning training. It's a shortcut system is
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also there. So you want me to not body, body shame. I'll take the pill, but I'm not
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