＂Peace Deal NOW!＂ - Will Trump & Putin AGREE To A Trilateral Meeting With Zelenskyy？
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In this episode, we talk about the latest in the Ukraine-Russia conflict and how many people have died in it. We also talk about what is going on with Ukraine and Russia and why they are fighting each other.
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If you have it, we're trying to pronounce these words.
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Putin's demanding Ukraine see Donetsk and Luhansk in exchange for freezing rest of front line.
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Zelensky is saying the Constitution doesn't allow him to do that, okay?
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And then they're going back and forth in that area, but that's something that Putin, a million people have died.
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I think we played this clip last week, Rob, if I'm not mistaken, or we haven't played this clip.
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Russia is still unsuccessful in Donetsk region.
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And the Constitution of Ukraine makes it impossible, impossible to give up territory or trade land.
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Since the territorial issue is so important, it should be discussed only by the leaders of Ukraine and Russia
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and the trilateral, Ukraine, United States, Russia.
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So far, Russia gives no sign that trilateral will happen.
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And if Russia refuses, then new sanctions must follow.
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So he's imposing what he's claiming is going to happen, what can't be done.
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So ahead of negotiation, Tom, they're saying what they're not willing to give up.
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Typically, when there's a big negotiation, here's how it works.
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Say you're trying to sell your – the two of you are trying to sell us a company.
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You need us because you guys are in shit right now because you guys lost four of your big accounts.
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You have great technology, great contacts, great product over the years, but you've messed up with four contacts,
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that's four client of yours, and you're coming to us, you want to sell.
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Of the 20 items, two of them are things that are most important to you.
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You don't want me to know those two, but maybe you have to.
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We don't want you to know what the four items are, but maybe your job is to read what our two are, what our four are.
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Now, Zelensky is telling them prior to the negotiation that what?
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Putin's – Trump's telling you you better tell the world what I made.
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Everybody's making their asks of what's going on.
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So if Zelensky is saying that in advance, this war is going to continue for a while.
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Rob, can you pull up how many people have died already?
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If you go on chat, GBT, how many people have died in the Ukraine-Russia war?
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We talk to people that are Ukrainian or Russia.
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Okay, 250,000 that you have on the Russia forces.
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There's a number that shows over a million total.
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Part of over one million total military casualties.
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Ukrainian military, over 100,000 to 350 civilians, 13,833.
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You know, you got anywhere between a half a million to a million people that have died because of this war.
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Well, something that nobody ever brings up is that this is literally a civil war, it seems.
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And the biggest part of what's going on with the military and the concessions here is everyone's like, just give up the land, bro.
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Do you know what percentage of Ukraine they're asking them to give up if they do a deal?
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That'd be like, hey, America, let's figure out this deal.
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You know, all right, give up Florida, Georgia, and everywhere up to Virginia, North Carolina.
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You know, if you trust Ukrainian polls whatsoever, the vast majority of Ukrainians do not want to give up the land.
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Okay, so it's not like those Ukrainians being like, come on, Zelensky, give up land.
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EU, the European knows, is the biggest war that's been in fault in Europe since World War II.
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We're not recognizing when an attack takes place and a country invades another country, we're not giving them precedent and they can just change borders.
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The one lady, the blonde lady, I think she's president of the EU.
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Ursula, president of the EU Economic Commission.
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Ukraine is still porcupine, indigestible to invaders.
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I don't even know if she has a Ukrainian accent.
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However, the EU is coming there and basically saying, if you do this, if you give up land, it sets a precedent that anytime someone attacks, that you can just redo borders.
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And correct me if I'm wrong, when Europeans just start, you know, drawing lines on a map, that usually ends up pretty ugly, i.e. Middle East, i.e. India, Pakistan.
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It gets very ugly when you just start redrawing borders.
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I don't remember when the Europeans drew up India, Pakistan, but go on.
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The British, the British trading company, like back, didn't, bizarre years ago?
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Yeah, we're not talking about, you're bringing things up, you're trying to connect them to Ukraine here.
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Are you trying to say that India did not carve up India and Pakistan?
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You're restraining it, now you're being victim.
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The borders between India and Pakistan were drawn in 1947 at the time of partition of British India.
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You wanted to say something about that Ukraine won't give up land that Russia doesn't already occupy, Zelensky says.
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So basically, Russia occupies certain things because, you know, war comes and the fronts move.
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When you hear that phrase, that's like the line of the war.
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And so what's complicating this, I think, that nobody's talking about it, is in 2022, Boris Johnson screwed up the whole thing, telling Zelensky to back off any sort of instant peace.
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That is the point where Trump would have been in there.
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They signed a decree of their own that said they will not negotiate with Russia.
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And the problem that I see right here is that with that decree in place, this is why Trump is navigating it this way.
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As recently as March of this year, Dmitry Peskov said, hey, we can't negotiate him with him with that decree in place because Zelensky was using that decree.
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I happen to think that the Europeans are in there as well because Ukraine is the breadbasket of Europe.
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And with Ukraine economically impacted, this actually benefits Germany, Austria and France, big farmers of Europe because they're able to grow grain and they're able to increase it.
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So I think there's a lot heading below the surface here that goes back to that 2022 decree about them not being able.
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So he said the Constitution won't let me do it.
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And so when he says we're not giving anything to Russia, they don't already occupy.
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And Russia wants to say, but if you move over a little bit this way, we have to remember the USSR got carved up.
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What is the likelihood that the leaders from EU are coming in because they don't want to happen because their worry is,
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well, he's going to go after Poland next and he's going after this next and he's going to go after that next.
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Do you think the EU leaders want that area to be given up to Putin?
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I think that there are cool heads in that room that understand what has to happen.
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So how many of the people that are flying in, Rob, can you pull up those faces?
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How many of the people that are flying in do you think are open to the idea of Zelensky giving that up?
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So isn't every single one of these on here NATO?
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There is, I think if you ask them, are you concerned about Poland?
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I think because of the NATO checkmate that happens there.
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And we have to remember right now, this is not a weapon war now.
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So I think the reason they're coming together, I believe that some of these people, like Georgia Maloney and Starmer, I think they actually want to get this thing over with.
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Do I think some of the others on there are kind of playing a little bit?
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And do I think that they don't want, you know, a certain end without their economic interest?
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I think they're there representing European economics because some of them don't want the war to create.
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Starmer, they were asking, Ukraine was asking him for aid.
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He says, I can't give you the aid, but I can give you part of it in debt.
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They didn't have our unlimited resources just to keep pumping money at the problem.
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Are you saying that Poland doesn't have concerns that Russia would invade?
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You go after Poland and everybody's in full response.
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We're not going to sit there, oh, my gosh, there's another Ukraine.
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So, Pat, you asked the question, which one of these leaders would agree to Ukraine giving up land, basically?
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There's only one country that has actually agreed to.
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Slovakia said they would advocate Ukraine give up land at the end of the war.
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Trump is basically the one trying to do a land deal.
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If you know anything about Trump, deal, deal, deal, the art of the land deal.
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But if you ask any one of these leaders, they've been on the record.
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So all weekend long, they're talking about forced land deals.
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Nobody's talking about negotiating settlements in the same voice.
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Well, a forced land deal means everybody puts a gun to Zelensky's head and says, OK, the aid stops now.
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We're backing off unless you give this to them.
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So now let's fast forward to the trilateral meeting, which is Trump, Zelensky, and Putin,
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of which Putin has suggested he wants the meeting to be in Russia.
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That's pretty tough if it shows up there, which means Zelensky has to go to Moscow.
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They might even bring Tucker Carlson to kind of just smooth things over there.
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That was a joke, by the way, is what he's doing.
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But they're saying that this event may, you know, Putin wants it there.
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Trump is not a guy that has a problem going anywhere.
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Guys, Trump flies back from, what do you call it, from Alaska, gets four hours rest,
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You know, Rubio talks about while they're on the plane at 1 o'clock in the morning,
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he's having calls with the people in, you know, UK to tell them how the meeting went in Alaska.
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That's who you pay your tax, $400,000, $450,000, your salary to.
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He's getting paid under minimum wage, just so everybody knows.
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The amount of hours he's working, he's not even making minimum wage right now.
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I'd like to thank you very much and we'll speak to you very soon and probably see you again very soon.
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I'll get a little heat on that one, but I could see it possibly happening.
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If the deal was to be brokered and everybody offline agreed that a peace deal is coming,
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I think he's going to break out that little desk that there was in Washington.
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You think it's going to get done in the next 90 days before the end of the year?
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You think a peace deal is done before the end of the year?
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Yeah, I think it's a peace deal now, not a ceasefire.
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I love what, again, going back to the MVP of this deal, which is who?
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He says, we're not interested in another one of these deals that you go back on your deal.
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We need this thing to be something that six months, 12 months, 18 months from now, we're
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not looking back again and saying, we're back at it again.
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We want it to be something that everybody in the party commits to it.
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So again, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
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And so Putin came here to Alaska and a B-2 bomber flies over.
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If Trump goes to Moscow, what is Putin going to do?
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One thing about Rubio that I want to give a credit to almost like what you talk about
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at the SLS, the sales leadership summit, when you're a senator, you don't do that much.
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He's secretary of state now, and he's with Trump every single day, and he's watching Trump
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work, and Trump's the type of guy who's like, you're going to use my work ethic and utilize
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So don't forget, this is not like an elected position.
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And like you said, Pat, Rubio's up to the challenge.
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I'm glad you had to throw your thought in as the last thing for us to be ready to go
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As the closing, because you didn't want Vinny to be the last one.
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