Valuetainment - November 10, 2025


“Pelosi’s 16,930% Return” - Her Stock Trades Spark OUTRAGE Over 38-Year $130m Windfall


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Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is stepping down after 37 years in Congress. She is leaving at the age of 85 and will be replaced by her husband, former Vice President Joe Biden, who has a net worth of more than $135 million.

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00:00:00.000 If you've got big plans for 2026 with your investments,
00:00:02.740 look no other than Nancy Pelosi, the GOAT.
00:00:06.620 I mean, listen, she is like, folks, can you do me a favor?
00:00:10.280 I'll give you guys five seconds.
00:00:11.480 Get your pen and paper out and take notes.
00:00:14.420 The legend's resume is about to be shown.
00:00:17.400 And you know, you know all of these investments she made
00:00:21.280 was all due to research and intuition.
00:00:24.320 It's all about her gut.
00:00:27.020 She's got that gut, the instinct, the intuition.
00:00:30.240 Of a Warren Buffett on steroids.
00:00:32.620 By the way, you're about to find out what their net worth was
00:00:35.540 before they started investing to where they are today.
00:00:38.440 Rob, please play this clip.
00:00:39.880 The legend.
00:00:40.920 Reportedly raking in more than $130 million in profits
00:00:44.960 from trading stocks during their 37 years in Congress.
00:00:48.040 That's according to a new report by the New York Post.
00:00:50.920 The former House Speaker saw a whopping return of nearly 17,000%
00:00:56.100 while in office.
00:00:57.440 The guy who's like, who knows how hard is that?
00:00:59.820 For taking office in 1987, a financial forum showed California
00:01:04.220 Democrat and her husband reporting up to $785,000 to $133,000.
00:01:10.200 The report comes days after the 85-year-old announced
00:01:16.480 she won't be seeking re-election.
00:01:19.000 This is the kind of stuff that makes people just hate government,
00:01:23.920 hate politicians.
00:01:25.200 Is that compost?
00:01:25.880 I don't know why.
00:01:26.900 She just brought away from it with nothing happening to her.
00:01:29.460 That's clearly inside information.
00:01:31.620 There's no way she's got smart.
00:01:32.760 Clearly.
00:01:33.500 It's a very, very profitable business to be in, politics.
00:01:36.200 You know, what I don't like is every once in a while when you get a legend
00:01:41.540 that comes through, people don't want to give her credit.
00:01:44.120 You have to tip your hat off to her.
00:01:45.260 Listen, she is possibly the greatest insider trader in the history of politics. 0.80
00:01:53.160 Who do you put ahead of her, Tom?
00:01:54.800 She's a legend.
00:01:56.120 Why don't we recognize legends like her? 1.00
00:01:58.540 No, no, she's, you know, she's right up there on Mount Trademore.
00:02:02.780 You know, she is number one up there. 1.00
00:02:05.180 And, you know, I'm upset she's retiring.
00:02:08.480 Why can't they just have her move her office across the street 1.00
00:02:12.120 to the SSA, Social Security Administration,
00:02:14.420 and manage the Social Security Administration trust fund?
00:02:17.420 Why can't they do that?
00:02:18.480 I know.
00:02:18.820 You know, she'd be doing a service to people on Social Security like her. 0.83
00:02:22.180 She's about to receive a Social Security check.
00:02:24.120 Lord knows she needs it. 0.72
00:02:25.700 You know, that's what I think.
00:02:26.920 But you know what?
00:02:28.220 Every now and then, there's an old saying.
00:02:31.460 Estimated net worth, 240 to 280.
00:02:33.840 I'll tell you, I don't know who said it.
00:02:35.660 We can look it up and find out who said it.
00:02:37.300 But it was the following quote, and I love it.
00:02:39.040 Every now and then, an innocent man is sent to the legislature.
00:02:43.900 Every once in a while.
00:02:45.260 An innocent man is sent to the legislature.
00:02:47.960 And what I, when we hear all the jokes that we make, led by me,
00:02:52.520 I do think it's really pathetic that we don't have conflict of interest
00:02:59.960 or insider rules for our elected officials, and we make jokes about it.
00:03:04.280 Comedians make jokes about it.
00:03:05.380 Everybody makes jokes about it because it's just joke in plain sight.
00:03:07.960 So Martha Stewart over a less than $200,000 gain. 0.99
00:03:12.200 That's a lot of money.
00:03:13.040 That's two, three years salary for people.
00:03:15.360 But think about it.
00:03:17.280 Martha did time for less than $200,000. 0.99
00:03:20.400 Yep.
00:03:20.760 And this person made $133 million for the time she did in Congress.
00:03:28.120 It just, it's, we got to give greater voice to the people
00:03:32.320 that have been trying to put those bills.
00:03:34.360 And there's, there's been a couple of them this year, right, Pat?
00:03:37.140 That people have been trying to put trader bills out there on them
00:03:40.200 a couple times this year.
00:03:41.420 And I think that Congress just needs to get serious.
00:03:43.620 They'll never vote for line item veto.
00:03:45.300 They'll never vote balanced budget amendment.
00:03:47.560 But can you at least vote that there's no insider trading in Congress?
00:03:50.760 You think she's stepping away because of being age and done and healthy?
00:03:56.120 You think she's stepping away because this Congress not being able to invest
00:03:59.900 is getting so close that on both sides they want to pass it
00:04:03.000 that she just wants that to be gone and doesn't happen under her watch?
00:04:06.800 I think there's a little of that.
00:04:07.980 There has to be a little of that.
00:04:09.240 But Nancy is frail.
00:04:11.780 You see her everywhere.
00:04:12.740 You see her now.
00:04:13.520 She's holding the elbow of somebody who's like escorting her.
00:04:16.800 It looks like a security person.
00:04:18.360 Exactly.
00:04:18.720 By the way, we're 40 years away from that.
00:04:20.860 Yeah.
00:04:21.180 I mean, to be fair, by the way, I'm just being observant, right?
00:04:25.900 You observe where you see Nancy, the security people, the people next to her.
00:04:30.220 She's holding the elbow.
00:04:31.580 Just same way I do with my mom.
00:04:33.320 So number one, health-wise, it's time for her.
00:04:36.360 Number two, you listen to the way she's reasoning.
00:04:38.760 And you know what I'm saying?
00:04:39.880 She's not as sharp as she once was.
00:04:42.420 She's been gone.
00:04:42.500 She's not saying wild-ass crap the way Biden was.
00:04:45.100 No, no, no.
00:04:45.420 Not Biden.
00:04:45.660 She's not shaking hands with ghosts the way Biden was.
00:04:47.980 But you can see the human frailty.
00:04:49.840 Good grief.
00:04:50.260 She's 85 years old.
00:04:51.660 But, Pat, I also believe that's the last thing she wants on her legacy is to have one of those things passed and to have her accounts be the first one at the top of the list for a congressional hearing.
00:05:04.220 She don't want that. 0.97
00:05:04.840 I have a different take on why, but it'll be a later story that I'll bring her back up.
00:05:09.180 Adam.
00:05:10.060 So, PBD, can you do some math with me real quick?
00:05:14.260 So she's been in office 38 years.
00:05:17.680 She's made, what, 170,000 percent? 1.00
00:05:21.480 17,000 percent?
00:05:22.480 17,000 percent.
00:05:23.460 Okay.
00:05:24.700 $133 million in profits.
00:05:26.560 Yep.
00:05:27.220 So maybe I'm doing the math wrong.
00:05:30.740 17,000 divided by 38 years, right?
00:05:33.900 That would give you an average rate of return each year.
00:05:36.760 Is that how you would do it?
00:05:38.220 Comes out to 447 percent a year.
00:05:42.220 How would you do that math?
00:05:43.140 If that's a straight return, yes, but you have to use compound interest.
00:05:46.300 Yeah, you have to compound it back.
00:05:47.100 So to ask, if I started with $785,000 in an account in 1987, and now I have $133 million
00:06:02.540 in that account.
00:06:07.200 What's my CAGR?
00:06:07.920 What has been my...
00:06:12.500 Cumulative annual growth rate CAGR.
00:06:14.700 Okay.
00:06:15.780 So I think it's still a big number, by the way.
00:06:18.100 What's the number?
00:06:18.760 It should be a big number because you're dealing with compound interest is what you're dealing
00:06:24.500 with.
00:06:25.120 But 15% per year.
00:06:30.100 That's it?
00:06:30.240 Your CAGR is 15% per year from $785,000.
00:06:34.300 Rob, what is it telling you?
00:06:35.640 I have the numbers wrong.
00:06:36.620 $785,000 and the net, the total is $130,000?
00:06:39.560 $130 million.
00:06:40.920 Yeah.
00:06:42.220 So she is 167X'd. 0.98
00:06:44.920 Mm-hmm.
00:06:46.300 But what I'm trying to find out is what is the annual...
00:06:50.780 Average rate of return.
00:06:52.140 Yes.
00:06:52.820 Because the average annual return on the S&P 500...
00:06:55.380 See, it says if you want, I can do the annual...
00:06:57.760 I can give you the CAGR and say yes.
00:07:00.440 Because, Tom, the average annual rate of return is 8% to 10% from the S&P 500, right?
00:07:04.320 Depending on inflation, depending on...
00:07:05.900 Yeah.
00:07:06.040 14.46% is what's just...
00:07:07.980 So it doesn't seem like an absurd number to average 15% a year, does it?
00:07:14.560 15% a year, no.
00:07:16.300 But the part that sounds absurd, you have to also realize that's how much is in the portfolio.
00:07:22.700 They're guesstimating their net worth is around $250 million.
00:07:26.260 You're assuming the $7.85, they never took money out to buy a house or buy weddings and
00:07:33.100 all this other stuff that they had to do.
00:07:34.340 Or buy an election, you know.
00:07:34.840 But I would say they're probably at 30% to 40% rate of return with some of the activities
00:07:41.760 that they had.
00:07:42.300 That's been a little bit suspicious.
00:07:43.500 And specifically, I know we kind of clown on Paul Pelosi after that rendezvous with the
00:07:47.880 Hammer.
00:07:48.800 What does he actually do for work?
00:07:50.560 Oh, yeah, Hammer's 22 bucks.
00:07:51.200 What does he actually do for work?
00:07:53.300 Because everyone, you know, piles on Nancy.
00:07:56.140 But what does her husband do?
00:07:57.160 Because I assume he's the moneymaker in the family.
00:07:59.020 He just invests and does that type of stuff.
00:08:00.480 Okay.
00:08:00.840 What do you mean he just invests?
00:08:01.840 That's what he does.
00:08:02.340 He doesn't have a job job.
00:08:02.560 He doesn't have a job.
00:08:02.880 He doesn't have a job job.
00:08:03.160 He doesn't have a job job.
00:08:03.180 He doesn't have a job job.
00:08:03.240 He doesn't have a job job.
00:08:03.260 He doesn't have 250 million bucks.
00:08:04.140 Yeah.
00:08:04.700 She tips him off and he invests.
00:08:06.220 So he's a venture capitalist and he's an investment investor?
00:08:08.740 He's a listener of Nancy Pelosi.
00:08:10.280 He just listens to what she gets from the insiders and that's what she does.
00:08:13.700 I mean, it's her husband.
00:08:14.920 Yeah.
00:08:15.620 She's in Congress for how long? 0.75
00:08:17.200 So why is nobody, if she is doing something illegal, do you think she's done something
00:08:21.500 actually illegal and broken the laws or are our stock act laws so gray that politicians
00:08:28.580 can just maneuver within this with no accountability and you can just yell at them and call them
00:08:34.060 frauds, but nothing actually happens?
00:08:36.240 Which one do you think it is?
00:08:37.120 So has she actually broken the law?
00:08:38.700 I can't say yes or no, but I can say this.
00:08:41.200 You know, you know what I've been doing with autopilot since July 1st.
00:08:43.820 I went in and looked at those lists of things and the things that were bought and, you know,
00:08:49.760 Palantir showed up and came and went, you know, before the announcement on Congress.
00:08:55.460 And remember, they're reading off all of the forms that have to get filed.
00:09:01.360 And so the interesting thing about all this is that you can see the trades happening there
00:09:06.720 and CNN and others and Fox have pointed out trades that were made by our elected officials
00:09:12.560 and then three weeks later there's a bill that says, oh, you, you, and you get the government
00:09:17.060 contract to do security.
00:09:18.180 I guess this is the main thing, Tom.
00:09:19.340 So I can't say, yes, she broke the law.
00:09:21.460 It's a very basic question for you.
00:09:23.180 That's pretty suspicious.
00:09:23.720 The basic question for you is the following.
00:09:26.160 Do you think, do you think people who are in office, who have access to information that
00:09:31.760 you don't have, they should be able to invest in a market based on information that they
00:09:38.440 have?
00:09:39.040 No.
00:09:39.480 Should they be able to invest in the market?
00:09:40.960 Yes.
00:09:41.360 Should they be able to actively trade based on information?
00:09:44.580 Hell.
00:09:45.080 How do you manage that?
00:09:45.620 I can tell the difference.
00:09:46.280 How do you manage that?
00:09:46.560 So you put it in the index fund and that's it.
00:09:48.620 I feel like there should be a rule that you cannot do active trading, right?
00:09:52.980 Because there's passive investing.
00:09:54.120 That's what she's doing.
00:09:55.020 I agree.
00:09:55.820 Yeah.
00:09:56.380 But I assume, who's the Republican version of Nancy? 1.00
00:09:59.420 Oh, there's plenty of them.
00:10:00.380 That's my point.
00:10:01.000 No, no.
00:10:01.260 This is not a left hand.
00:10:01.780 She's the poster child of this.
00:10:03.140 Yeah, but she's the highest ranking person to do what she's done at the levels that she's 0.99
00:10:08.440 done.
00:10:08.540 No doubt.
00:10:08.860 She's the poster child for this.
00:10:10.580 But there's Republicans guilty of this as well.
00:10:12.620 Who is it?
00:10:14.360 Romney is, well, Romney was a successful guy before.
00:10:17.300 Before, correct, with Bain Capital, I believe.
00:10:19.920 But you could have a few other guys here that could be, like Mitch McConnell is a good
00:10:23.280 one.
00:10:24.040 Perfect.
00:10:24.440 Okay.
00:10:24.680 But look at Mitch McConnell's profit.
00:10:26.140 How much was that?
00:10:26.760 Six mil.
00:10:27.340 Okay, look at hers. 0.99
00:10:28.600 Yeah, come on. 0.77
00:10:29.140 They're not in the same league.
00:10:30.200 24.1 million.
00:10:31.100 What I'd be most interested in hearing is what politicians from the left and the right
00:10:37.080 are saying about this.
00:10:37.940 Who is our buddy that was here that's the representative in Silicon Valley?
00:10:43.960 Ro Khanna.
00:10:44.480 Isn't he actively talking about something like this?
00:10:46.240 He wants to stop the stock market?
00:10:47.120 Yes.
00:10:48.300 Yes.
00:10:48.640 It's not only him.
00:10:49.340 I would love to see a bipartisan approach.
00:10:50.660 AOC is a few different people are on both sides.
00:10:53.300 Even Ana Paulina Luna that was here the other day.
00:10:56.020 When we spoke to her.
00:10:57.020 Tom.
00:10:57.740 Senator Mark Kelly set up an ethics committee, approved blind trust and demonstrated that
00:11:03.700 he had moved all of his assets into the blind trust.
00:11:06.140 And the blind trust purpose is for the independent financial advisors to trade limited, limited
00:11:15.320 transactions.
00:11:16.460 And he is not part of the decision making process.
00:11:19.580 Mostly were related to REITs and indexes.
00:11:23.980 Bingo.
00:11:24.220 So I love that you highlighted one word.
00:11:27.060 Limited.
00:11:27.580 You said limited.
00:11:28.540 What?
00:11:29.100 Yeah.
00:11:29.240 They limit the trades.
00:11:30.340 They limited the trade flow.
00:11:31.940 Because you know in an index fund or a passive fund, you're not in and out of the market.
00:11:37.020 You're not trading based on information or new stock that might come up.
00:11:42.240 The active tradings, I think, are where people get in trouble.
00:11:44.620 Oh, yeah.
00:11:45.040 I really heard about this.
00:11:45.720 I feel like they should put a law or some sort of guideline.
00:11:50.540 You cannot trade in and out of stocks.
00:11:52.320 That's where you take advantage of this.
00:11:53.300 Yeah.
00:11:53.540 So here it is.
00:11:54.240 So here's a difference on Mark Kelly.
00:11:55.180 It's on trying to ban or restrict lawmakers from trading individual stocks because of
00:12:00.580 concerns about access to non-public information.
00:12:02.980 John Ossoff, Senator George, he's a Democrat, sponsored the Senate Ban Congressional Stock
00:12:08.320 Trading Act.
00:12:09.620 Then you have Mark Kelly, Arizona, who is also a Democrat, worked with Ossoff on the same
00:12:14.800 thing.
00:12:15.240 Then you have Josh Hawley as well, Republican, out of Missouri, who has joined it as well.
00:12:22.540 You got Dean Phillips that I think he wanted to run for president.
00:12:24.900 Minnesota, yeah.
00:12:25.580 Yeah, Minnesota, co-sponsored it, and then Ro Khanna, who we talked about earlier. 0.91
00:12:30.040 I disagree with a lot about Ro Khanna, but he would know in his district.
00:12:33.120 The individual stocks is where you get into hot water.
00:12:36.340 Because I think a politician, if they have a 401k, listen, a politician, this is how they're
00:12:40.240 supposed to have retirement money, right?
00:12:42.660 In their 401k or 403b or whatever it's called in Congress.
00:12:45.420 Like anybody else.
00:12:46.340 Yeah.
00:12:46.600 They should be in an index fund.
00:12:48.020 They should be in an ETF.
00:12:49.200 They should not be able to trade individual stocks.
00:12:51.200 And then there's no conflict of interest.
00:12:56.020 If you're trading in and out of stocks, that's where it kind of comes into all this.
00:12:59.480 And then they should have a target.
00:13:05.940 That's the longest pause you've ever taken in your life.
00:13:09.420 Like there was a brain.
00:13:10.280 I felt like the brain stopped.
00:13:11.960 And I went like this.
00:13:12.720 I went.
00:13:13.060 Yeah.
00:13:13.220 Because here's also.
00:13:13.900 Get this man some coffee, folks.
00:13:15.680 Most people pray for weeks.
00:13:17.120 Holy shit.
00:13:18.300 You know how when you invest in the market, PPD.
00:13:20.260 This is brought to you by ephedrine.
00:13:21.780 Exactly.
00:13:22.120 Hello.
00:13:22.440 Wake up.
00:13:23.020 Adam.
00:13:23.300 Just had some coffee.
00:13:23.760 Dripped fuel.
00:13:25.420 Warren Buffen says, listen, put your money in S&P 500 and just invest in America.
00:13:29.600 But that's not your only component of an asset allocation.
00:13:31.700 Let's get past the story.
00:13:32.960 Let me just ask you one question, PPD.
00:13:34.020 Go ahead, Rob.
00:13:34.620 What percent of your asset allocation is in an American funds, American companies versus international?
00:13:43.700 I am pro-America.
00:13:46.020 I am very little international.
00:13:48.240 I just traded.
00:13:49.640 Yeah.
00:13:50.000 So I have my money with Fidelity.
00:13:51.380 Apparently, if you want to do a world index, like a world conglomerate, whatever you call it, they mandate that you do two-thirds of your portfolio into America and one-third into international.
00:14:03.540 I'm speaking to my guys.
00:14:04.720 I said, let me ask you guys a question.
00:14:05.880 Over the last 10 years, what has been the rate of return for the S&P 500 versus whatever you're calling the world index that has emerging markets and everything?
00:14:16.420 And basically, it was double the rate of return, America versus the international.
00:14:20.800 I go, so why am I invested in international at all?
00:14:24.160 They go, well, we want to diversify.
00:14:25.780 I go, F your diversification.
00:14:27.400 Put everything 100% into America. 0.86
00:14:30.100 Damn.
00:14:30.960 Everything.
00:14:31.680 So what's my point?
00:14:32.960 Every single one of these politicians should be in an ETF, S&P 500, all in America.
00:14:38.480 I don't need you investing in emerging markets in India.
00:14:41.220 I don't want you talking about a new company in Bangladesh. 0.93
00:14:44.100 100% of their stock allocation should be in America, and you should not be able to actively trade in and out of it.
00:14:50.540 Let's go to the next one.
00:14:51.640 Good.
00:14:51.840 Good point.
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