Valuetainment - December 21, 2025


"PETRIFIED Of His Son" - Rob & Nick Reiner’s Conan Christmas Clash REVEALS SHOCKING Murder Motive


Episode Stats

Length

20 minutes

Words per Minute

191.60963

Word Count

3,864

Sentence Count

317

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

Nick Reiner makes his first court appearance to face murder charges in the death of his parents, Rob and Michelle Reiner, and the disappearance of his sister-in-law, Amy Poehler. Rob and Amy were shot and killed in their own home on New Year's Eve.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Nick Reiner makes first court appearance to face murder charges and killing of his parents.
00:00:06.060 Okay?
00:00:06.700 Rob, if you got that clip, is this it?
00:00:08.260 Yep.
00:00:08.520 Go for it, Rob.
00:00:09.700 Nick Reiner making his first court appearance moments ago.
00:00:12.760 Let's watch.
00:00:13.220 This should be a convenient date for us to come back for a petition.
00:00:17.100 This time I'll take a speedy arraignment.
00:00:19.720 Wager can reply.
00:00:20.700 Thank you.
00:00:21.020 Mr. Reiner, you have a constitutional and statutory right to a speedy arraignment.
00:00:25.760 Your counsel is requesting that your arraignment be continued to January 7, 2026.
00:00:31.160 Do you waive your right to a speedy arraignment so that your arraignment can't be heard on January 7, 2026?
00:00:39.380 And does counsel join in the waiver?
00:00:41.180 I join, Rob.
00:00:41.760 The court finds that the defendant has made a knowing and intelligent waiver of his right to a speedy arraignment,
00:00:46.720 and that his counsel plans in that waiver.
00:00:49.080 Whether set January 7, 2026 for arraignment in this department, bail to stand at no bail.
00:00:54.340 Anything further on that case?
00:00:56.180 Not by the defense, your arraignment.
00:00:57.220 Anything further?
00:00:58.080 No, thank you.
00:00:58.800 Thank you.
00:00:59.480 Thank you, Rob.
00:01:00.920 Okay.
00:01:01.620 You can pause it right there.
00:01:03.060 Now, by the way, Michelle Obama was on, I think, Jimmy Kimmel?
00:01:07.480 Yeah.
00:01:08.060 Yep.
00:01:08.340 She's on Jimmy Kimmel, and she's telling a story about how they were supposed to meet with them that night to have dinner with Rob Reiner.
00:01:16.920 Okay?
00:01:17.760 So they're having, if you have the clip, Rob, is that the one?
00:01:20.380 Yes, sir.
00:01:20.500 Go for it.
00:01:21.000 Go ahead.
00:01:21.260 My husband, we're friends with Rob and Michelle Reiner, and I'm very sorry for your loss.
00:01:27.540 Oh, my God.
00:01:28.680 How long have you known the Reiners?
00:01:30.520 We've known them for many, many years, and we were supposed to be seeing them that night, last night.
00:01:38.120 And we got the news.
00:01:39.820 And let me just say this, unlike some people, Rob and Michelle Reiner are some of the most decent, courageous people you ever want to know.
00:01:50.180 They are not deranged or crazed.
00:01:57.600 What they have always been are passionate people in a time when there's not a lot of courage going on.
00:02:05.700 They were the kind of people who were ready to put their actions behind what they cared about.
00:02:11.520 And they cared about their family, and they cared about this country, and they cared about fairness and equity.
00:02:17.760 And that is the truth.
00:02:19.600 I do know them.
00:02:20.400 Well, we believe you.
00:02:20.980 You and your husband were.
00:02:22.460 Okay.
00:02:23.040 So, Rob, what else has happened since?
00:02:25.880 A lot of old clips have circulated, right?
00:02:28.960 A lot of old stuff from Nick Reiner, the family, tweets.
00:02:32.620 Here's a tweet I just saw right here.
00:02:33.980 Until Trump goes to prison, from Rob Reiner.
00:02:36.200 Until Trump goes to prison, I will no longer be posting on Twitter.
00:02:38.820 I had it with the insults and put-downs.
00:02:41.200 This is Rob Reiner.
00:02:42.540 F all of you MAGA assholes.
00:02:44.600 Okay?
00:02:44.800 So that's Rob Reiner.
00:02:45.340 Who wrote that?
00:02:45.780 Oh, by the way, if you—
00:02:47.440 And there's a ton of these.
00:02:48.620 Oh, for 10 years, it was the anti-Trump.
00:02:51.480 Anytime a camera was in front of Rob Reiner, God rest his soul, it was all about Trump, F his followers, Russia collusion.
00:02:58.640 That's all he was.
00:02:59.820 Like, you forgot about the movies.
00:03:01.480 Like, people were just—he's just anti-Trump the entire time.
00:03:05.300 Here's one.
00:03:05.840 No surprise, Trump colluded with Russia.
00:03:08.020 We've always known his presidency was illegitimate.
00:03:10.520 Now it's been proven for the sake of our democracy, this man must be indicted and jailed.
00:03:13.780 Okay?
00:03:14.760 So this is—there's a reason why the president came out hard the day he died and he put the—
00:03:20.580 And a lot of people were critical of him.
00:03:22.360 And a lot of this other stuff showing up, they're like, wait a minute, this is kind of—you know, Trump never forgets what happened.
00:03:28.140 Remember, he said it himself.
00:03:30.020 He says, I don't—I hold grudges.
00:03:31.820 I'm not like some of these other guys, right?
00:03:33.260 You know, but there's a couple clips, Rob, of—did you see the one with Conan O'Brien?
00:03:39.240 Yeah, I was just going to say that—
00:03:41.360 Do you have that one, Rob, with the Conan O'Brien?
00:03:44.020 No, let me take a look.
00:03:46.140 And so allegedly, they were at the house, right?
00:03:48.480 He was at Conan O'Brien.
00:03:49.600 Conan O'Brien threw a holiday party is what happened.
00:03:51.860 Well, I have a video on that, yeah.
00:03:54.020 And apparently, if you remember Bill Hader from SNL, they were having a conversation.
00:03:59.040 It was awkward.
00:03:59.820 He stormed off.
00:04:00.780 There was—they were all together at a party that night.
00:04:03.600 Hours later, he murders his parents.
00:04:05.960 There's famous Hollywood actors there.
00:04:07.800 They're all going to probably have to testify.
00:04:09.540 Of course.
00:04:10.040 As to what did you see that night?
00:04:11.560 What are they arguing about?
00:04:12.480 What are they arguing about?
00:04:13.720 Yeah.
00:04:14.220 Is this it?
00:04:14.880 To me, I—the politics aside, this drug addict, semi-homeless kid murdered his parents.
00:04:22.940 That's the storyline.
00:04:24.020 I'm going to walk through the final hours of the—
00:04:26.580 What's this, Rob?
00:04:27.760 Is that the one?
00:04:28.540 This is—this is Anderson Cooper talking about the Wall Street Journal—
00:04:32.560 Story.
00:04:33.100 —journalist who reported on the fight at Conan O'Brien's party, including the Bill Hader interaction.
00:04:39.560 Go for it.
00:04:40.480 Sure.
00:04:41.220 So on the night before they were found murdered, Rob and Michelle brought their son Nick to a holiday party at Conan O'Brien's house.
00:04:49.100 Um, during the party, he was approaching people there, asking questions that, in that context, seemed confrontational, strange.
00:04:59.520 Mm-hmm.
00:05:00.020 Uh, especially, are you famous?
00:05:01.920 Asking people there, are you famous?
00:05:03.180 So, you can imagine a party of actual famous people and fame-adjacent people who are really used to strange behavior out in public, but here they are at a gathering of their peers at a party hosted by Conan.
00:05:16.380 It was unsettling to some.
00:05:18.140 Was it—it wasn't sort of, oh, are you legitimate, like, oh, are you famous?
00:05:23.100 It was saying to, like, Bill Hader, who's a very famous, well-known Saturday Night Live comedian, are you famous?
00:05:29.440 Yes.
00:05:29.540 Like, there's a hostility to it, it seems.
00:05:31.440 Yeah, and also, keep in mind, this is a kid, a man who grew up around famous people.
00:05:35.860 He knows fame.
00:05:37.080 Yeah, so Bill Hader was one of the people he approached at the party, and making—
00:05:41.420 You were poured on sort of a—I don't know if it was an argument or a—
00:05:44.920 There was an awkward exchange made more awkward by the fact that he had met Hader earlier in the night.
00:05:49.480 Mm-hmm.
00:05:49.680 Um, so when he—
00:05:50.780 Through Rob had introduced him.
00:05:52.840 So when he came up and asked him questions such as, what's your name, are you famous, um, it was—it was unsettling and described as scary from—from Hader's perspective.
00:06:02.240 And then how—how—do you know how long he stayed at the party? Was he asked to leave?
00:06:06.060 That is unclear, um, and there are kind of conflicting reports about how much tension was in the room, um, whether or not he may have argued with his dad and whether that argument was significant at all.
00:06:16.760 Um, I think what stands is this fact that this is going to be remembered as a very strange prelude to a really horrific turn of events.
00:06:25.900 You've also done a lot of reporting just on his addiction, on his—on his past.
00:06:30.180 Yeah, I mean, the—the fact that, um, Rob and Michelle have brought their 32-year-old son to this party, I think, is kind of a sign of their ongoing efforts over the years to really stabilize him, to normalize his life had been rocked many, many times by his addiction.
00:06:46.920 And—and there had been, um, I mean, there had been a lot of efforts by Rob Reiner over the years, I mean, making that film, Rob Reiner worked as a director on it—the—the—the movie that his son co-wrote, apparently without salary even, in the hopes that that would sort of launch him into a career, I guess.
00:07:03.920 Correct. And to really trying to understand what Nick had gone through as—as a father.
00:07:08.520 I mean, that's how Rob described it, at least.
00:07:10.840 Um, and what's remarkable is that—that whole thing would be private and opaque to us if that movie hadn't happened.
00:07:16.980 Right.
00:07:17.080 And they hadn't gone on these press tours talking about their problems with, you know, kind of varying degrees of comfort and discomfort, it seemed like, on—on both their parts.
00:07:24.400 Yeah, it's fascinating to report in Wall Street.
00:07:26.200 So, by the age of 22, by the age of 22, he went to rehab 18 times.
00:07:30.660 By the age of 22, he went to rehab 18 times.
00:07:34.060 Wow.
00:07:36.000 Another story that just dropped from TMZ right now, it says he was diagnosed with schizophrenia, and a meds he was taken made him erratic and dangerous, okay?
00:07:46.780 Erratic and dangerous.
00:07:48.340 And some of the clips you see is just disturbing between the father and the son relationship.
00:07:52.220 Rob, do you have that one clip?
00:07:54.240 You just—and I know you've seen quite a few of them.
00:07:56.520 You and I were talking about some of them.
00:07:57.660 Some of them we're not going to play.
00:07:58.760 No, no, I don't—
00:07:59.140 There's a lot of weird stuff out there on—which one is this, Rob?
00:08:04.980 Can you play it?
00:08:05.840 I just want to see which one this is.
00:08:07.240 You don't seem very fiery to me.
00:08:08.540 You seem like you might just—
00:08:09.580 I get crazy.
00:08:09.800 I get crazy.
00:08:10.800 Oh, okay.
00:08:11.500 You don't want to set me off.
00:08:13.360 Yeah.
00:08:13.860 Were you ever worried that Nick could shine poorly on your career or something like that?
00:08:19.640 No, no.
00:08:20.480 That never crossed my mind.
00:08:21.820 In my opinion, in my opinion, the reason they're taking, whether it's drugs or alcohol or gambling,
00:08:27.900 whatever they're doing, they're doing it because there's a pain.
00:08:31.340 There's something inside that's—they don't feel good.
00:08:35.200 They don't feel good about themselves, and they're self-medicating.
00:08:38.180 So to try to understand why it is they're not feeling good.
00:08:42.200 You don't seem—
00:08:42.820 Well, okay, so—and Adam makes a really good point.
00:08:46.660 Automatically, the view, the whole world was like, Trump.
00:08:49.640 And as if it was a surprise, Donald Trump was going to say, like, I got right—like, whatever he said, his condolences.
00:08:56.280 But he said, this guy had Trump derangement syndrome.
00:08:58.680 And he didn't say something like—by the way, again, I didn't agree with it too soon.
00:09:03.280 He didn't say, like, oh, I'm happy he's dead.
00:09:05.160 He just made a point that this guy, for 10 years, made his life a living hell.
00:09:09.360 Put that aside.
00:09:10.280 Adam makes a great point.
00:09:11.540 The real issue is—oh, and just to add to this, a caveat, Rob Reiner reportedly—this is from Yahoo Entertainment—
00:09:17.260 said that he was petrified of his son, Nick, and that he could hurt him in his final words at this party.
00:09:23.180 Okay, that's number one.
00:09:24.440 The deeper issue to me is, you could answer this.
00:09:27.540 Rob could.
00:09:28.260 And I asked Rob earlier, and you could, Tom.
00:09:29.740 If you are going to rehab at 14 years old, okay, as a parent, as a father in Hollywood, how does that happen?
00:09:40.720 How are you not in the kid's life enough that a 14-year-old has to go to rehab?
00:09:48.240 That's one question that I was asking, okay?
00:09:51.040 Was there abuse?
00:09:52.060 What was going on?
00:09:52.900 And we're not going to play the clips, but Al Franken and Billy Crystal on a roast said stuff that I don't even want to say.
00:09:59.740 I don't even want to say on camera.
00:10:00.480 I'm not going to say.
00:10:01.420 You guys can go look at it.
00:10:02.920 It was disgusting.
00:10:04.280 Disgusting.
00:10:04.600 It's disgusting.
00:10:06.160 Understatement, pedophilia type stuff.
00:10:07.680 I don't even want to get into it.
00:10:09.500 We don't know what type of abuse happened.
00:10:11.700 Nobody knows what makes that type of thing happen.
00:10:15.100 I'm going to be very, very—I'm interested and curious to see what the defense is going to say and have for Nick.
00:10:22.040 Because I'm telling you, schizophrenia aside, he's going to probably reveal a lot of stuff that a lot of things, a lot of abuse—I don't know if it's going to be true or not, but I think a lot's going to come out in the wash, and I'm very curious to see how his siblings are going to respond to potentially some of the abuse that he had.
00:10:38.100 Because it's—to me, I've never heard of a 14-year-old in rehab.
00:10:42.320 This is me personally.
00:10:43.200 My experiences.
00:10:44.400 Tom, as a father, can you explain to me how can something like that happen?
00:10:48.040 Well, there's multiple layers of this onion as far as I see.
00:10:52.260 First of all, I see just a horrible tragedy.
00:10:55.620 The unthinkable is your own child, you know, commits murder.
00:11:01.200 That's just unthinkable to me, and it's a tragedy.
00:11:05.000 And, you know, I'll let Rob's life professionally and things he said just stand for themselves.
00:11:10.840 I don't want to kind of recount that.
00:11:13.660 It's just a disgusting tragedy.
00:11:15.820 But I'll tell you this, when we were looking for schools in California, looking for quality schools, we were at a private school.
00:11:23.620 And at the private school, Vinny, you can say, wow, you know, this kid's been in rehab 18 times.
00:11:29.320 But there were kids at that school that were not in rehab, that needed rehab, and celebrity parents didn't want them to be identified publicly because they didn't want the—
00:11:40.820 Stain.
00:11:41.180 The stain or the shame, you'd be that.
00:11:44.400 That's bad publicity.
00:11:45.960 And they tried to work with things with their kids privately, and yet they were enabling through, you know, monetary availability of kids to get their hands on drugs.
00:11:55.160 And they're hanging out with other celebrity kids that had wealth that were able to get their hands on drugs.
00:12:01.940 So I don't think it's—that the story—the story can be, how did this guy end up in rehab 18 times since he was 14?
00:12:09.920 I mean, there's part of me that says, thank God he was in rehab and they were trying to get somewhere, but obviously it came off the rails.
00:12:16.340 And at 32 years old, he then commits this.
00:12:18.580 But there's another story in Los Angeles, and Pat's been around it, I've been around it, is the celebrities that never took their kids to rehab, but they needed help.
00:12:26.020 Because they don't want the reflection on their own reputation.
00:12:30.120 Yeah, I don't think that was Rob, though.
00:12:32.460 I think Rob, you know, if he went to rehab that many times, you know, at least he wanted to do something about it.
00:12:37.220 This is a clip, by the way, of him walking around after his parents were found.
00:12:43.660 Watch this.
00:12:44.180 Security camera footage shows Nick Reiner an hour before his arrest.
00:12:48.600 This is after he killed his parents.
00:12:52.580 Charged with the murder of his parents.
00:12:54.100 Goes into a convenience store Sunday evening.
00:12:57.400 He then quickly leaves the store.
00:13:00.120 Rob, what audio is that?
00:13:15.460 I thought it was like somebody doing audio.
00:13:17.580 No, that was Adam's clip.
00:13:19.480 There you go.
00:13:20.700 So, disturbing.
00:13:22.540 As you see something like this taking place with the sun.
00:13:26.560 I think a lot is going to come out, and I don't know.
00:13:28.820 This story can go many different directions, by the way.
00:13:31.860 This story can go many, many different directions when some of the stories comes out, and the legacy could be good, bad, and ugly very quickly.
00:13:39.360 What do you mean by many different directions, sir?
00:13:43.240 I saw some things that was just a little bit uncomfortable.
00:13:47.680 I saw some things that was a little bit uncomfortable.
00:13:49.220 You know, you can come and do a roast and say stuff you want to say about me.
00:13:53.800 You can say roast about a lot of other stuff.
00:13:56.580 Roast about a young son and what you do to him and what happens to him.
00:14:00.680 You don't roast like that.
00:14:02.000 Nope.
00:14:02.580 These are professional roasters saying stuff like that.
00:14:05.580 And he's laughing.
00:14:06.720 The only reason you say something like that is if it's...
00:14:09.940 Not at 14.
00:14:11.080 Yeah, is if it's a...
00:14:13.220 Anyways, this is a dark story, man.
00:14:15.360 It's just a dark story.
00:14:16.460 Well, look, this to me comes down to the following.
00:14:21.540 This is a story of a father and a parent's love for their son that just went horribly wrong.
00:14:29.680 So, you know, the most likely person to kill somebody is not a stranger.
00:14:37.180 It's not some random person in an alley.
00:14:39.200 It's someone in your house.
00:14:40.980 Domestic.
00:14:41.800 Violence, as they say.
00:14:43.340 If you want to go in order...
00:14:46.340 It's your boyfriend, girlfriend, spouse, family member, friend, neighbor, and at the very least, stranger.
00:14:55.720 So imagine this household of how combustible it would have been, right?
00:15:00.660 So the rage, the emotion that was in there.
00:15:03.460 Listen, I've been very open about this.
00:15:05.100 My father and I had a very, very toxic relationship.
00:15:09.080 Not many people have ever fist fought their parents.
00:15:11.320 My dad and I would fight all the time.
00:15:14.520 I'm talking 10, 12, 15, 18 years old to eventually one of us ended up in jail for domestic violence.
00:15:21.100 So I understand what it's like to live in a crazy household.
00:15:24.620 I wasn't on drugs.
00:15:26.080 I wasn't a drinker.
00:15:27.520 My dad was an actual wild card.
00:15:30.820 And it taught me how to basically deal with situations where very, very uncomfortable.
00:15:36.580 In my opinion, this.
00:15:38.440 The father and the mother loved their son with all their heart and they wanted the best for him.
00:15:42.840 And he just could not get out of his own way.
00:15:46.260 You said something very powerful that I remember.
00:15:47.860 I remember a lot of things you said are powerful.
00:15:49.640 You said to your kids, I'll always love you.
00:15:51.860 No matter what you do, I'll always love you unconditionally.
00:15:55.660 But to say that I'm proud of you, that's something totally different.
00:15:59.780 Am I getting those words right?
00:16:01.480 So I think they love their son, but they were so saddened to see what his life is becoming.
00:16:07.900 And they kept clearly trying to give him another second, third, fifth, 20th chance at life.
00:16:15.260 And eventually it cost them their life.
00:16:17.260 And that's the most tragic thing here.
00:16:19.820 Yeah, Vinny's got a special announcement that I want Vinny to share with you guys.
00:16:24.700 Go ahead, Vinny.
00:16:25.560 So guys, as you guys know, the Faith Over Fear line.
00:16:28.320 We had the Faith Over Fear shirt.
00:16:30.060 We just came out.
00:16:30.900 This just came out.
00:16:31.740 It's live right now.
00:16:32.820 Pat Worth is just a Faith Over Fear hat.
00:16:34.880 I'm trying to figure out.
00:16:35.800 We have the symbol here.
00:16:36.980 We have the cross here.
00:16:37.840 Hebrews 11, one on the back.
00:16:40.460 Rob, can you click on the hat and show the pictures?
00:16:42.260 Yeah, let everybody see this.
00:16:43.340 Guys, it's embroidered.
00:16:44.240 By the way, I only wear Yankee hats.
00:16:46.940 Oh yeah, so I only wear Yankee hats.
00:16:48.540 But guys, you can see the future looks bright on the bottom.
00:16:50.980 This is stitched.
00:16:52.060 Hebrews 11, 11, 11, one, that, and then the cross on the side.
00:16:55.900 Like I said, I only wear Yankee hats, but-
00:16:57.360 It's 3D embroidery.
00:16:58.440 Yo, no, it's ridiculous.
00:16:59.360 And I just want, like, this is, like, every time something like this happens, like, the hats finally come in.
00:17:04.660 We're at a pivotal place where, right now, with everything that's happening with Christians in Nigeria,
00:17:09.040 as you're seeing what's happening in Europe, you're seeing what's happening in Australia,
00:17:12.760 the enemy wants us to be afraid.
00:17:14.740 I don't know if you guys saw this.
00:17:15.900 Australia, France, Germany, they just canceled all their Christmas celebrations,
00:17:19.520 all their freaking New Year stuff, because they're afraid.
00:17:23.020 I'm telling you guys right now, I've said this before.
00:17:24.900 In the Bible, 365 times, it says, do not fear.
00:17:30.320 Okay?
00:17:30.900 Just have faith.
00:17:31.880 And when it comes to having faith in Christ, there's one story that I want to say, and you know this.
00:17:36.520 In Matthew, chapter 20, I think, verse 9, or 9, verse 20 to 22,
00:17:42.500 Jesus is walking through Galilee, and everybody, he's healing people.
00:17:46.020 People are touching him and grabbing him, and he's just trying to get through the crowd.
00:17:49.100 And there was a woman that had an issue of bleeding for 12 years.
00:17:52.080 They believe it was, like, a menstrual situation.
00:17:54.740 She says to herself, and this is in Scripture,
00:17:57.180 All I have to do is touch the hem of his robe, and I'll be healed.
00:18:01.980 Okay?
00:18:02.440 So she crawls through this crowd, and she just reaches and touches a string that's hanging off Jesus' robe,
00:18:08.400 and he stops in the crowd, and he goes, who touched me?
00:18:11.900 All right?
00:18:12.240 And Peter and everybody's like, Jesus, everybody's touching.
00:18:15.440 He goes, no, no, no.
00:18:16.620 Who touched me?
00:18:18.140 He said he felt the power leave his body, and he looks, and the woman is on the floor,
00:18:23.300 instantly healed, and she's crying, Pat.
00:18:25.300 And she stands up, and she goes, Jesus, you healed me.
00:18:28.240 And he looks at her, and he goes, I didn't heal you.
00:18:29.840 It was your faith that healed you.
00:18:32.120 Think about that.
00:18:33.320 Think about that.
00:18:33.960 That's powerful.
00:18:34.280 Just touching his clothes, and she was healed.
00:18:37.340 And that's belief.
00:18:38.060 And I want to say one last thing.
00:18:39.600 When Jesus was in Nazareth, he was powerless.
00:18:42.520 He couldn't do any miracles.
00:18:44.040 And you know why?
00:18:44.940 He said because it was their disbelief, because they didn't believe.
00:18:48.700 So your faith is what creates the miracles in your life.
00:18:51.900 And I think this hat is that message, and this is letting everybody know, I'm not afraid.
00:18:56.520 We're not afraid.
00:18:57.340 I'm a Christian.
00:18:58.040 I wear it proud, and I want people to know that.
00:19:00.040 And yeah, that's it.
00:19:01.340 And it's live right now.
00:19:02.320 I love it.
00:19:02.840 And you know, you can go to vteemerge.com, place the order, get the hat, get the shirt,
00:19:06.520 get the shoe.
00:19:07.400 All of those, we'll put over there for you.
00:19:09.020 Yesterday, I had these pastors that flew in from Australia, and he said the most powerful
00:19:11.860 line.
00:19:12.840 Two pastors, the guy's from Egypt.
00:19:14.820 His name is Martin Sidro, and his wife, Millicent.
00:19:18.000 And he says, when I was a kid, and my dad and I were talking about becoming a pastor
00:19:22.640 one day, he says, my father told us one thing.
00:19:25.100 If you want to be a pastor, you can't fear.
00:19:28.060 If you fear, don't be a pastor.
00:19:30.580 One doesn't go without the other.
00:19:32.000 You have to be very strong about your faith that you have.
00:19:34.460 So for those of you that are comfortable, this Christmas season, New Year season, going
00:19:39.200 into 2026 with faith, put that on, walk around, you'd be amazed how many people stop
00:19:43.560 by and say, hey, man, I'm with you.
00:19:45.240 Hey, man, I'm with you.
00:19:45.980 I love the stories of just winks with people that are fans of the show, or they're looking
00:19:53.480 at each other like, man, you're also Future Looks Pride.
00:19:55.320 You're also Faith Over Fear.
00:19:56.280 You're also Valuetainment.
00:19:57.360 Me too.
00:19:58.360 I'm one as well.
00:19:59.280 So go place the order, or two, or three, and gift it to some of the people in your community.
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