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- June 19, 2026
"Pick a Side" – Former Daily Wire CEO Says JD Vance Must Distance Himself From Tucker
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6 minutes
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181.93
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1,182
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68
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Tucker's son works for Vance did did Tulsi Vance and Kent had a friendship had a relationship
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right sometimes they'll say that's the group right there Rubio is kind of like look guys I don't even
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want to run in 2020 he keeps avoiding it look I don't want to run I don't want to run I don't
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want to run you know he's gonna run okay and JD I don't know you know we're gonna be thinking about
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maybe I gotta spend time with the kids everyone's bullshitting saying all this stuff they have to
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run there's no way these guys are not gonna run you gotta run you reach for the ring so let me ask
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you, you know, is it fair to say that you and Ben are 90% on the same page politically,
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ideology-wise? Yeah, there's probably no one in public life with whom I agree more on politics
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than Ben. Okay, perfect. So let's leave it at that. So if that's the case, would you trust a
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J.D. for 2028? Not today. I'm not saying that I can't support J.D. in 28. J.D. plays his politics
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incredibly close. JD is a very peculiar figure in our politics in that we don't really know
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exactly what he thinks about some of the most important issues happening, not just like
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abstract ideological issues, but what he actually thinks about real world things that are happening
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in real time right now. And what does JD really think about the president's actions in Iran,
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just as one example? I don't know. I can make a case both ways, and I can point you to some
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evidence both ways. I think JD has played it too close and lost the trust of a lot of people who
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he will need in order to win. Not too late to recover that. You're going to have to give people
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some visibility into what you think, and it's going to have to be the things that they need it
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to be. I think that JD is too online. I think he's so perpetually on X that he sometimes misreads
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where the movement actually is, as so many people did, say, in the Massey primary.
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Now, it may very well be that online is a leading indicator. I don't take from Massey's loss that
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Twitter isn't real life. I more take from Massey's loss that Twitter isn't real life yet.
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And obviously, influence takes time to actually materialize. But I think the vice president is
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too perpetually online. I think he's played his politics too close and lost people whom he needs.
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And I think his relationship with Tucker is a massive problem for him. I don't begrudge him
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not turning on a friend. Friendship's an incredibly important thing. I think that
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J.D. owes a lot of his political career to Tucker making early investments in him.
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I think he probably likes Tucker on a personal level. I think it's a good thing not to
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lightly turn on your friends. But Tucker's at war with your actual administration at this point.
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If you're still advocating for Tucker instead of defending the administration against the
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charges of someone like Tucker, then you're sort of misreading the job, in my opinion.
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So can J.D. win? I don't think J.D. can win today. But the election isn't today. Will J.D. be able to
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win by 2028 yeah you can it's a lot of time in politics for course correction and showing us
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who he it's going to come down to jd has to show us who he really is and who he really is has to
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be able to keep together the trump coalition or build a different coalition that's capable of
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victory right now i don't think he's on a track to do that i think marco is far more likely to
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keep the trump coalition together how will they get marco so think like the let's be the devil's
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advocate. How do you attack Marco? What you're going to say of Marco is that he's a liberal.
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What you're going to say of Marco is that he's squishy. What you're going to say about Marco,
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and you're going to say that because you want to set JD up as the real true
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voice of dissident right-wing conservatism. I don't think it sticks though, because
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Rubio's tenure as Secretary of State has been so masculine, has been so strong.
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um uh also some things just come down to like you'd like you know just like uh you home part of
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the most storied baseball franchise in the country so you know that uh
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at the at the end of the day there's like a um
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man i lost that thought baseball and rubio is a pretty good thought anytime you're talking
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about a Cuban guy. No, you said liberal. You were going liberal. They're going to say he's a liberal.
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Then you're going to say last 10 years. He had an incredible record. He did so well last 10 years.
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Well, as with baseball, the actual history of the sport can tell us a lot. In the last 120 years,
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no sitting vice president has sought his party's nomination to be president or to be the party's
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nominee for president with the endorsement of the sitting president and failed to gain it.
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but twice we've had a sitting vice president seek his party's nomination without the endorsement of
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the sitting president of his own party and failed to to get it so a lot of marco's prospects are
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going to come down to does trump endorse jd vance to be his successor if trump sits it out it's going
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to be a i think it's going to be a true open primary i just understood what you just said so
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so god so who were the ones that didn't endorse the vp oh man i know pence has not won so it's
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not like because you he went directly against them but i'm wondering who that is who the other
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uh man what were the vps because we'd have to look this up reagan supported bush okay no early
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it's earlier than than you and i okay so these are names that maybe is not our time for us to
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