Valuetainment - May 14, 2025


＂Pillars Of The Deep State＂ – Curt Weldon ACCUSES 9⧸11 Insiders Of Massive Cover-Up


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7 minutes

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1,417

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121


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Former Rep. Joe Biden joins us to talk about his role in uncovering the 9/11 Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JIEDDO) program, and his role as a member of the House Intelligence Committee investigating the matter.

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00:00:00.000 When did you blow the whistle?
00:00:01.980 Oh, I blew the whistle all during my time in Congress, but especially on 9-11.
00:00:06.740 June 19th, 05? Is that pretty accurate?
00:00:08.780 Oh, I published a book here in 2005 where I took on the CIA.
00:00:13.380 But George Bush knew. I supported a lot of the things he did, especially in—that's why I so—
00:00:19.220 But the reason why I'm asking this question is the timing, sequencing, is what I'm trying to find out.
00:00:23.080 So 9-11, 01.
00:00:25.460 Yep.
00:00:26.380 You blow the whistle in 05.
00:00:29.760 No, I blew the whistle starting immediately.
00:00:32.180 Right off the bat.
00:00:32.800 05 was when the report came out.
00:00:33.860 When did you get public about it?
00:00:35.360 Oh, right away.
00:00:36.060 Like how right away?
00:00:37.040 I gave—as soon as they took Tony Schaefer out, I started harassing the DIA.
00:00:42.960 He said, this is a scandal bigger than Watergate.
00:00:45.040 Yeah, D-O-D overall.
00:00:46.360 The D-O-D overall.
00:00:47.620 It wasn't just DIA, but we can cover that in a bit.
00:00:49.960 So I took on the system saying, this is wrong.
00:00:54.080 So if the deep state—he is one of the pillars of the deep state.
00:00:58.700 Oh, yeah.
00:00:59.240 Okay.
00:00:59.640 You're saying, oh, yeah.
00:01:00.440 So he is one of the pillars of deep state.
00:01:01.940 There is no way in the world if the five of us that are running deep state are talking
00:01:08.980 to each other and we're like, look, you're going to endorse him like that?
00:01:11.300 No way in a million years should you do that.
00:01:13.900 George, think about it.
00:01:15.060 Don't do it.
00:01:16.300 Don't endorse him that way.
00:01:17.140 I'm sure they told him that.
00:01:18.080 Okay, so then there's another clip from another president who wasn't a president at the time,
00:01:22.620 Biden, Rob, if you have that clip.
00:01:24.340 President Biden at the time also in this hearing that's taking place, he goes for a few minutes,
00:01:28.800 but I'll just play the clip for the first two minutes.
00:01:31.460 Here's President Biden.
00:01:32.500 He talks about how much of a staunch Republican you are.
00:01:34.640 This is about 9-11.
00:01:37.260 When is this taking place, by the way, with you being there?
00:01:40.220 When is this, Rob?
00:01:41.100 2005, I believe.
00:01:42.440 This is September 2005, the first testimony in front of the Senate.
00:01:45.100 The first hearing unable to hear.
00:01:46.520 This is the first testimony in front of the judicial?
00:01:50.220 Correct.
00:01:50.540 The Senate.
00:01:51.140 Okay, let's hear this one here, Rob, if you don't mind.
00:01:53.660 Call for it.
00:01:54.560 For two reasons.
00:01:55.600 One, my high regard for the congressman.
00:01:57.640 He's, over the years, in the last nine months, shared information with me.
00:02:05.520 Some of it seemed prescient, and it turns out that a number of the things he said have been,
00:02:10.640 I was unaware of, have turned out to be the case.
00:02:14.160 And I thought this morning we were going to be able to get to the bottom of some of this.
00:02:18.440 A couple people didn't show up.
00:02:19.700 I know, as you know better than I do, that the congressman is, I was there.
00:02:26.140 You were there, yes.
00:02:27.040 Did you testify?
00:02:28.140 Yes.
00:02:28.760 But they didn't.
00:02:29.400 Let it keep going, Rob, because I want to see this.
00:02:32.020 I want to go to Cameron, because he still hasn't said the name.
00:02:34.500 I just want to see the face.
00:02:36.180 Has no political agenda here, other than trying to figure out what we knew and didn't know,
00:02:41.900 and why we didn't know it.
00:02:45.460 And my staff indicates to me that the representatives of the Department of Defense
00:02:51.640 had confirmed that an internal investigation identified on five Able Danger team members
00:02:59.180 who claimed they had either seen a picture of Otto or had seen his name in the chart prepared
00:03:05.420 in 99 by the Able Danger team.
00:03:08.460 And the defense investigation found these sources to be credible, but didn't uncover the chart
00:03:14.380 itself.
00:03:15.360 Defense officials have said that the documents associated with the project have been destroyed
00:03:20.260 in accordance with regulations regarding collection, dissemination, and destruction procedures
00:03:25.420 for intelligence gathering on people inside the United States.
00:03:29.280 And so I thought we were going to get a chance to clear some of that up this morning.
00:03:33.580 For the life of me, I don't understand why, as I understand it, I stand corrected if I'm wrong,
00:03:40.280 but I understand the witnesses we assumed we were going to get to hear from, from the Defense
00:03:44.520 Department, have been pulled.
00:03:45.840 And you were one of the ones that were being ruled by and stressing that they cannot testify.
00:03:51.680 And to be fair, you and him, you can pause it right here, you and him traveled together
00:03:55.720 on Memorial Day to Iraq.
00:03:57.900 Joe has traveled with me.
00:03:59.100 He went to Libya with me.
00:04:00.380 I took the first delegation to Libya in 25 years.
00:04:04.580 Joe went with me on my second trip when I spoke to Libyan people.
00:04:07.240 Joe spoke after I did.
00:04:08.920 Joe and I grew up one mile apart.
00:04:11.060 My son graduated with Joe's daughter.
00:04:14.020 And when my son died, partly because of what they did to me, Joe drove three hours as vice
00:04:20.120 president and stood in line at the funeral against all my family.
00:04:24.000 And when I lost my election in November of 06, one of the first calls at my home that
00:04:29.120 night was from Joe Biden.
00:04:31.240 And he said, Kurt, I'm sorry what they did to you.
00:04:35.300 The other person to call me was Steny Hoyer, top Democrat in the House.
00:04:39.680 And he said, Kurt, I'm sorry what they did to you.
00:04:43.180 Both of them called me because they were friends of mine, still are friends of mine, even though
00:04:48.480 I'm a Republican.
00:04:49.440 Let me say one more thing.
00:04:51.280 In 2000, people were pushing me to become chairman of the Armed Services Committee.
00:04:56.160 Donald Rumsfeld was the top leader on defense issues.
00:05:00.020 He writes a one-page letter endorsing me for chairman.
00:05:02.900 The top Democrat was the deputy secretary of defense, John Hamry.
00:05:06.240 He writes a one-page letter endorsing me.
00:05:08.920 I have both letters I'll give you for your show, endorsing me.
00:05:12.880 But I would have had to have jumped over four other members, and we didn't do that back
00:05:16.280 then.
00:05:16.700 So I waited.
00:05:17.880 I was next in line, and I would have become chairman had I been elected in 2006.
00:05:24.200 That's what it was all about, stopping me from becoming chairman.
00:05:27.500 But here's the thing you asked about the hearing.
00:05:30.060 I requested the hearings as the vice chairman of the Defense Committee and the Homeland Security
00:05:35.660 Committee, and I went to Donald Rumsfeld, who had endorsed me in 2000, and his assistant's
00:05:41.260 name was Steve Cambone.
00:05:43.180 And they said, no way, Congressman.
00:05:44.760 We're not letting anyone from Able Danger testify.
00:05:47.680 I said, oh, yes, you are.
00:05:49.080 The American people need to hear this.
00:05:51.420 And they said, no, we're not.
00:05:52.380 Now, I have a letter that I'll provide for you for your show that I produced, signed by
00:05:59.020 250 members of Congress.
00:06:02.260 There are only 435 members in the House.
00:06:04.760 This is what year?
00:06:05.940 It was immediately after 9-11.
00:06:08.660 It's the hearing that you're talking about where I testified.
00:06:11.780 250?
00:06:12.980 250 members.
00:06:14.100 I would say this to you right now.
00:06:16.620 Probably eight of those members that signed that letter are in the Senate right now.
00:06:21.440 People like Roger Wicker and Lindsey Graham and Shelley Moore Capita, they were all House
00:06:25.800 members.
00:06:26.760 250 members of the House signed the letter with me.
00:06:31.060 People like Jack Murtha.
00:06:32.700 People like Dick Armey.
00:06:34.240 Senior leaders of both parties saying, we want this team to testify about what they knew.
00:06:39.740 But the deep state didn't want them to testify.
00:06:43.480 And Rumsfeld wouldn't let them testify.
00:06:45.900 They sat in the audience.
00:06:47.240 I testified at a public hearing.
00:06:49.380 And I showed the charts that you have now.
00:06:51.720 That's the first time those charts were ever shown.
00:06:54.860 The whole thing is a cover-up.
00:06:57.340 And that's why I'm here.
00:06:58.920 But, Kurt, so 250 at the time were on your side to want to find out what's going on with 9-11.
00:07:04.000 Absolutely, they could have gotten more.
00:07:04.960 I only had a couple of days.
00:07:06.020 250 members of the House.
00:07:08.020 I have all their signatures.
00:07:08.940 So now, gentlemen, I'm going to come to you as well.
00:07:12.820 I'm just trying to get this part because I'm going to come back and find out what they told you that you can't get in there.
00:07:16.260 We still haven't found that out.
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