Valuetainment - April 14, 2026


“Pope Leo Is WEAK” - Trump BLASTS Vatican Over Iran War Stance

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Trump blasts Pope Leo as weak, says he prefers his MAGA brother, after pontiffs' veep jabs over Iran, war and immigration. Is this it? Is this the end of the world as we know it?

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00:00:30.200 Trump blasting the Pope.
00:00:32.600 Here's a New York Post story.
00:00:34.160 Trump blasts Pope Leo as weak,
00:00:37.880 says he prefers his MAGA brother
00:00:40.040 after pontiffs' veil jabs over Iran war and immigration.
00:00:45.440 Is this it?
00:00:46.440 Let me first read what he said,
00:00:47.960 and then we will go through what he said.
00:00:49.580 Rob, do you have what the Pope said?
00:00:50.920 I have a clip of the Pope, I believe, this weekend,
00:00:54.100 where he says he's going to continue to speak out against the war.
00:00:56.560 Go ahead.
00:00:57.000 The message of the church, my message, the message of the gospel, blessed are the peacemakers.
00:01:06.060 I do not look at my role as being a political politician.
00:01:10.060 I don't want to get into a debate with him.
00:01:13.000 I don't think that the message of the gospel is meant to be abused in the way that some people are doing.
00:01:18.680 And I will continue to speak out loud against war, looking to promote peace, promoting dialogue and multilateral relationships among the states to look for just solutions to problems.
00:01:30.880 Too many people are suffering in the world today.
00:01:32.900 Too many innocent people are being killed.
00:01:35.100 And I think someone has to stand up and say, there's a better way to do this.
00:01:39.560 Okay, here you go.
00:01:40.460 That's the Pope, and then here's the President.
00:01:42.320 Go ahead, Rob.
00:01:44.320 And they're going to go back, build up with oil.
00:01:48.680 Why did you attack Pope Leo on free socials?
00:01:52.120 I don't think he's doing a very good job.
00:01:54.620 He likes crime, I guess.
00:01:56.760 He hit us, think of it.
00:02:00.200 He's worried about fear.
00:02:01.400 What about the fear when the ministers and the priests
00:02:06.560 and the, all of those great people
00:02:08.840 that were arrested during COVID,
00:02:11.760 and in many cases they're outside 10 feet apart
00:02:14.980 and they were arrested.
00:02:15.940 So we don't like it.
00:02:17.580 We don't like a pope that's going to say that it's OK to have a nuclear weapon.
00:02:22.680 We don't want a pope that says crime is OK in our cities.
00:02:26.500 I don't like it. I'm not a big fan of Pope Leo.
00:02:29.140 He's a very liberal person, and he's a man that doesn't believe in stopping crime.
00:02:34.460 He's a man that doesn't think that we should be toying with a country that wants a nuclear weapon so they can blow up the world.
00:02:44.120 I'm not I'm not a fan of Pope Leo.
00:02:46.460 I mean, unless I missed something, the pope, all he said was, listen, I'm not about war.
00:02:54.060 You know, he quoted the Bible.
00:02:56.340 Blessed are the peacemakers.
00:02:58.240 He's just just he's not saying, you know, to hell with them and whatever with the troops.
00:03:04.340 No, this is the pope.
00:03:05.280 This is the holiest guy on the planet.
00:03:07.480 The biggest guy in Catholicism just voicing his opinion.
00:03:11.880 And then Trump goes into this crate like this.
00:03:14.440 Was this this wasn't a 500 word or.
00:03:16.460 But it's like, I don't know.
00:03:17.700 I'm not a fan of him going after him and then bringing up nukes.
00:03:20.620 All this guy is saying is, listen, I'm not about war.
00:03:24.000 If you're trying to be a Christian, a good Christian,
00:03:27.720 the last thing on the menu is war. 0.83
00:03:31.420 And if there's a way to do it, do it.
00:03:32.960 And if he's going to bring up, like, because I don't know
00:03:34.760 if we're going to bring up him tweeting, Pat,
00:03:36.600 about him being basically Jesus.
00:03:38.940 We will do that right afterwards.
00:03:40.060 Yeah, go ahead, Tom.
00:03:40.700 well i i struggled with this because it's like the pope the catholic church has become political
00:03:49.260 let's let's face it over the last 25 years they've become very political they've weighed in
00:03:54.140 on dei they've weighed in on so many things and and they've also done you know kind of ride the
00:04:00.740 line well what what we really interpret is this so they've actually moved and they've moved things
00:04:06.220 And people say, well, that's progressive. That's that. Not if your handbook is the Bible and it says that one foot is 12 inches and an inch is this much, then you don't try to change it over time so that one foot is 14 inches or 8 inches.
00:04:19.800 You don't change your standards. And the Pope has kind of moved with that, that some people call progressive Catholicism.
00:04:27.280 You know, I don't know. On the other hand, where Trump is, you know, if you're not with me, you're against me.
00:04:34.120 and he's very, very clear about that.
00:04:37.880 And while he's trying to get things done on a world stage,
00:04:41.320 you know, he's going to react to things that he thinks.
00:04:44.900 Remember, it wasn't just this comment by the Pope.
00:04:46.740 There's been other things, and there was a closed-door meeting.
00:04:49.600 And so Trump was a little annoyed with the Vatican
00:04:52.120 because Trump sees the Vatican as a political voice.
00:04:55.460 And so if you're going to be a political voice out there,
00:04:57.340 this is what we're trying to do.
00:04:59.240 You know, last time I checked, Trump didn't say this,
00:05:02.560 but Tom says this.
00:05:03.680 The last time I checked, the path to peace in the Bible
00:05:06.240 sometimes got a little bit bloody and a little bit messy
00:05:08.580 because humans are humans.
00:05:10.920 And so this is a heavy tweet,
00:05:13.540 but I think I understand where it's coming from.
00:05:16.200 You know, if you're not with me, you're against me.
00:05:18.060 Yeah, Adam.
00:05:19.800 Well, let me take off my yarmulke and put on my cardinal hat.
00:05:24.000 Here's what we know about Trump.
00:05:25.280 Here's your APAC baseball hat.
00:05:26.420 Thank you, buddy.
00:05:27.280 Tom's got the jokes, always.
00:05:30.480 Here's what I know about Trump.
00:05:31.600 anybody can get it a week ago people were freaking out basically saying may allah be with you
00:05:38.340 all of a sudden there's people upset about that all of a sudden we're going to take out an entire
00:05:42.660 civilization nothing happened all talk rhetoric calls out the pope by the way this isn't his
00:05:48.020 first time calling out the pope by the way he'll call out bb what the f is going on here
00:05:53.600 if you get in trump's crosshairs whether you like it or not he's gonna shoot what's the famous
00:05:59.820 phrase if you come at me i'm gonna come at you 10 times harder so that's trump you like it or not
00:06:05.300 i'm on team trump because trump represents america the pope doesn't represent america despite
00:06:10.880 being from chicago go bears i know humberto's probably going to be a little offended right
00:06:16.120 now that's okay uh the pope doesn't represent america i and i have catholic friends i have
00:06:22.260 christian friends i have muslim friends everything no one is without basically uh being no one's
00:06:29.320 about being being criticized anyone can get it because if you look at what the what the pope is
00:06:34.220 basically saying if he if you didn't tell me it was the pope yeah he would sound like a pacifist
00:06:39.000 he sounds like a dove you know there's a concept of like are you a hawk or a dove
00:06:43.360 trump's neither trump's a deal maker are we going to get stuff done or not here are the things that
00:06:48.980 i understand you tell me if i'm wrong what the pope basically basically advocate advocates
00:06:53.800 promotes peace no war he's an open border guy globalist type of guy helps humanity i get that
00:07:01.000 respectfully it seems to me there's a lot of socialist tendencies and they're critical of
00:07:07.240 capitalism at the same time doesn't the the church own more land than anybody in the world
00:07:12.800 aren't they basically a religious corporate structure dictating um the papal laws to all
00:07:19.140 around the world supposedly own more land except countries allegedly allegedly they're also very
00:07:23.880 big on the green new deal the green new scam talking about a thing at the end of the day
00:07:27.680 these crosshairs were going to happen and it'd be best served for for the pope to stay in his lane
00:07:33.100 and trump to stay in his lane when those two lanes cross is going to get up what do you think
00:07:37.120 pat because i from what i heard i don't i didn't hear the oh the pope was just saying yeah i just
00:07:41.020 wish there was more peace i don't think he was going what do you think i'm curious i mean look
00:07:45.660 He, to me, I like him more than the previous guy.
00:07:47.980 For sure.
00:07:48.480 I'm not, you know, I think he is, he's just saying, he says, look, the Bible says peacemakers, right?
00:07:54.140 Be a peacemaker and, you know, blessed are the peacemakers.
00:07:56.640 And, you know, at this moment, people could say Trump's not a peacemaker.
00:07:59.960 Trump's a chaotic agent.
00:08:01.360 You know, he disrupts.
00:08:02.220 He's constant, right?
00:08:03.300 Which is fine.
00:08:04.540 That's who the American people voted two times to be the president.
00:08:08.320 But I will tell you something here, the low key. 0.94
00:08:10.540 You know, here's, you know, I don't know why Catholics, you know, have this issue with Jews.
00:08:17.920 I don't know what it is. 0.75
00:08:19.720 They have this, you know, I don't, listen, I get the Jews have issues with Christians. 1.00
00:08:25.660 And they'll make fun. 0.80
00:08:26.920 And they'll say stuff like, oh, your Jesus is going to, you know, they'll say, well, he was a Jew anyways, right?
00:08:31.940 But then Catholics have that issue with Jews. 0.80
00:08:36.680 And they act like, you know, they're all innocent and everything. 0.98
00:08:39.540 And when you look at Catholics, the amount of centralized power they have. 0.95
00:08:44.700 Centralized. 0.76
00:08:45.260 You know what the total Catholic population is worldwide?
00:08:48.000 It's like 1, 2, 1, 3 billion.
00:08:50.980 Jews are 15 million.
00:08:52.600 15 million. 0.99
00:08:53.220 But Jews are decentralized, meaning Catholic, Jews don't have somebody they listen to that says, hey, you better do this. 0.99
00:09:01.480 Catholics, God forbid you say something about the Pope. 0.99
00:09:03.940 They're like, hey, man, listen, who is that Pope figure in the Christian community? 0.95
00:09:07.620 We don't have one.
00:09:08.940 If I ask you right now who's the pope in the Christian community,
00:09:11.820 you don't have somebody to look at.
00:09:13.080 Who is it?
00:09:13.480 Which pastor?
00:09:14.180 Yeah, exactly.
00:09:15.160 We don't have them.
00:09:16.000 It's just the Bible. 0.97
00:09:18.100 So if you look at only Catholics and Muslims have somebody that they look at 0.71
00:09:22.720 as their supreme leader, like you've got to go to somebody.
00:09:27.240 But even more, it's Catholic. 0.94
00:09:29.080 Well, there's only two theocracies in the world. 0.77
00:09:32.000 Catholicism? 1.00
00:09:32.820 Islam. 1.00
00:09:33.700 I'm sorry. 0.99
00:09:34.080 the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Vatican.
00:09:39.080 Those are the two major theocracies.
00:09:41.060 Big difference.
00:09:41.880 I said $1.3 billion.
00:09:44.020 My apology. 0.99
00:09:44.940 I don't want the Catholics to be upset with me
00:09:46.380 because I have a lot of Catholic friends.
00:09:49.160 $1.4 to $2 billion.
00:09:50.520 By the way, you ready for this?
00:09:52.000 They have 220,000 parishes worldwide.
00:09:55.780 That's churches.
00:09:56.680 Wow.
00:09:57.340 They have 3,000 dioceses, 400,000 priests worldwide,
00:10:02.320 600,000 religious sisters, nuns, 200,000 Catholic schools globally, 50 million students enrolled worldwide, 1,300 universities, 5,000 to 6,000 hospitals, 15,000-plus clinics, 16,000-plus homes for the elderly, disabled, orphans.
00:10:22.660 I have had nothing but great experience with Catholics.
00:10:25.860 Nothing. 1.00
00:10:26.660 Here's where my challenge is.
00:10:28.460 I've never had any issues with Jews.
00:10:29.960 I've never had any issues with Catholics. 1.00
00:10:31.640 But they have issues with each other.
00:10:33.580 Well, I don't think Jews have any issues with Catholics.
00:10:36.040 I think the old school Catholics, the old school, had major issues with the Jews.
00:10:41.300 And then I think in the 1960s, they said, you know what, guys?
00:10:44.460 Let's pump the brakes on all the Jew hate and all that.
00:10:47.800 But that's still language.
00:10:49.120 Tom, did you not watch Godfather 3?
00:10:51.920 What's Godfather 3 about? 0.77
00:10:53.280 Do you really want to go through the history of Catholicism
00:10:56.900 and how much power and authority and mob and finances?
00:11:00.260 and you have its own military as a military.
00:11:02.480 There are so many things to go through.
00:11:04.640 So for me, this is the problem.
00:11:07.200 This is the problem.
00:11:08.000 For me, it's when you come in and take a judgmental position
00:11:11.700 and your church has a history of a lot of issues, 1.00
00:11:16.180 you're kind of contradicting yourself and you're a hypocrite. 0.99
00:11:19.060 So you have to kind of be able to balance that. 0.99
00:11:20.860 But at the same time, guess what?
00:11:22.540 That's what comes.
00:11:23.360 The Vatican has a lot of power.
00:11:24.680 it's a think about if you wanted to have control over 1.422 billion people around the world 0.88
00:11:32.600 in a sense christians couldn't pull this off mormons couldn't pull this off catholics pulled
00:11:38.600 it off what a power and so here's a question who's more powerful can you run a poll rob i'm
00:11:44.320 actually so curious in how the audience votes i kind of have an idea which way they're going to
00:11:48.380 vote though and you want us to give up who has no i don't want you to say anything i just want
00:11:51.100 to give it three minutes okay who has more power umberto don't call the bots people you have i
00:11:55.920 don't touch any of your bots people who has more power jews or catholics does the catholic church
00:12:02.600 have more power or jews okay just put those two rob and jews j-e-w-s not j-u-i-c-e so we'll make
00:12:11.460 sure rob gets it right oh is that why i'm getting all these juice box things on my oh that's what 0.73
00:12:16.060 they're saying and i'm not even putting i just thought they wanted to buy me a drink this juice
00:12:18.900 But here's the thing.
00:12:21.220 Do you know what's the funny thing with power?
00:12:23.720 You know what's the funny thing with power?
00:12:25.220 It's like it's always the other guy that wants more power, not you.
00:12:28.520 You're the humble one.
00:12:30.040 It's always the other guy that wants more control.
00:12:32.100 You don't. 0.90
00:12:32.720 Definitely Jews don't want any control. 1.00
00:12:34.840 It's the other guy. 0.74
00:12:36.060 Catholics don't want any control. 0.78
00:12:37.500 It's the other guy.
00:12:38.720 Islam doesn't want any control. 0.99
00:12:40.040 It's the other guy. 1.00
00:12:41.120 Everybody wants control.
00:12:42.580 A thousand percent.
00:12:43.220 Why do they want control?
00:12:44.960 Why do they want control?
00:12:46.000 Think about why they want control.
00:12:47.720 Because what?
00:12:48.900 Because they want to be able to push their own what? 0.92
00:12:52.580 Agenda.
00:12:53.280 And what you believe in.
00:12:54.140 And guess what?
00:12:54.760 I think that's very fair.
00:12:56.880 You know, if you live in a community, like, you know, there's such thing as HOA, right?
00:13:00.920 You know what HOA is?
00:13:01.840 Homeowners Association.
00:13:03.160 So, for instance, like, let's just say you live in a community and you have a house that's on one lot.
00:13:11.400 And I have a house that's on three lots.
00:13:14.480 Okay?
00:13:15.200 But we pay our HOAs fairly.
00:13:18.140 Now, imagine the person with one lot says,
00:13:21.560 we want to charge $5,000 per person who lives in this community per lot.
00:13:28.700 So who does it favor?
00:13:30.160 Who does it not favor?
00:13:31.580 The guy with one lot says, yes, that's fair.
00:13:34.840 The guy with three lots is like, what are you talking about, bro?
00:13:37.820 No, we're going to keep everything $5,000.
00:13:39.920 No, you take more land in the community.
00:13:42.500 Everybody's got an agenda, bro.
00:13:43.800 Of course.
00:13:44.120 Everybody does.
00:13:44.820 So when we get into the innocent stuff, listen,
00:13:47.160 And I said to myself, I'm from Iran.
00:13:49.280 So when people are like, well, you know, you're from Iran.
00:13:51.720 Yes, I don't like the IRGC.
00:13:53.220 I've said it a million.
00:13:54.400 I've made videos about this for over a decade talking about how I feel about this.
00:13:59.380 They're bad people. 0.99
00:14:00.420 They're evil. 1.00
00:14:01.040 They're not wired like you.
00:14:02.400 And the world is a better place if they're gone.
00:14:04.560 Do I have some biases because I lived with these guys?
00:14:08.200 100%.
00:14:08.600 It's the people when they're like, well, I don't have any.
00:14:11.040 Well, I don't have this.
00:14:11.680 I don't have this.
00:14:12.500 Stop acting like you're so innocent.
00:14:14.540 Everybody's got their own stuff that's going on.
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