Valuetainment - July 15, 2025


”Prison Of Pedophiles＂ - CIA's John Kiriakou LOCKED UP For Blowing The Whistle On Torture Program

Topics
pedophiles in prison
Hosted by
Patrick Bet-David
Mentioned
Mark Lanzalotti Nicky Carrazzo Jonah Mendes Tony Mendez Gambinos Bananos Scarfo Marry
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Episode Stats


Length

6 minutes

Words per minute

190.98

Word count

1,181

Sentence count

151

Harmful content

Misogyny

6

sentences flagged

Toxicity

12

sentences flagged

Hate speech

3

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Summary

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Former CIA contractor John Kiriakou talks about his time in prison, and why he thought he was going to be released early. He also talks about how he ended up in a prison with pedophiles, mafia kingpins, and other criminals.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 Do you end up doing time?
00:00:01.080 Yeah, I did 23 months.
00:00:02.660 You did 23 months.
00:00:03.460 And where were you at?
00:00:04.440 I was at the Federal Correctional Institution at Loretto, Pennsylvania.
00:00:07.660 Who else is in that facility?
00:00:10.440 Who is getting arrested there?
00:00:11.900 Who's doing time there? 0.89
00:00:12.640 A third of the prisoners are pedophiles. 0.89
00:00:15.080 Okay. 0.98
00:00:17.000 Mafia, dons, there were a lot of mob guys. 1.00
00:00:19.980 A third of the people there are pedophiles? 0.99
00:00:22.140 Pedophiles. 0.99
00:00:23.020 So why would they put you there with...
00:00:25.380 Ah, I'm glad you asked me that question.
00:00:28.100 And I swear, we didn't plant the question.
00:00:32.300 At my sentencing, my attorneys asked the judge to put me in a minimum security work camp.
00:00:38.260 Okay, there are no bars on the windows.
00:00:40.300 The doors are unlocked.
00:00:41.440 You're free to come and go as you please.
00:00:42.860 You're just on your honor not to run away.
00:00:44.960 And most of those guys work at a...
00:00:47.220 There's a university in the town, the little village nearby,
00:00:51.140 and you sweep the floors or whatever.
00:00:52.920 The judge says to the prosecutors, any objection?
00:00:55.340 They said, no objection.
00:00:56.240 She says, okay, minimum security work camp.
00:00:59.660 Well, the strange thing in our system is if you're sentenced to prison
00:01:03.340 and you're free until the date of your incarceration,
00:01:09.260 you physically drive to the prison and knock on the door and say,
00:01:13.700 I'm here to turn myself in.
00:01:15.480 It's weird, right?
00:01:16.880 So I got up that morning and a couple of my lawyers, my cousin and his son,
00:01:23.720 a documentary film crew, we drive to the prison and I go to the camp,
00:01:29.140 minimum security camp, and I knock on the door and I said,
00:01:32.200 I'm John Kiriakou.
00:01:33.120 I'm here to turn myself in.
00:01:34.280 They said, oh, you have to go across the street to the actual prison.
00:01:37.660 They'll process you and then they'll just bring you back over here.
00:01:40.780 So I go across the street to the prison and I said, I'm here to turn myself in.
00:01:47.060 The guy says, okay.
00:01:48.200 They put me through a metal detector.
00:01:49.880 And then he starts to lead me around to the back of the actual prison.
00:01:54.980 And I said, wait a minute.
00:01:57.020 I'm supposed to be at the camp across the street.
00:02:00.020 And he goes, not according to my paperwork, you're not.
00:02:03.920 Wow.
00:02:04.620 And I told myself, take it easy.
00:02:07.020 There's nothing you can do.
00:02:09.080 They'll put you in solitary if you say anything.
00:02:11.480 So I didn't say a word.
00:02:13.940 It took me about 45 minutes to get processed.
00:02:18.280 And then they put me in a cell, like an actual cell.
00:02:21.380 It was a four man cell, but they squeezed six guys in there because of overcrowding.
00:02:25.560 It took me four or five days before I got access to a phone.
00:02:30.020 To call your lawyer.
00:02:31.040 I called my lawyer and I said, hey, they put me in the actual prison with the mafia kingpins 0.90
00:02:36.760 and the Mexican drug cartel guys and the pedophiles.
00:02:41.140 What do I do? 0.95
00:02:42.620 And he said, oh my God.
00:02:44.000 He said, well, we can make a motion, but it'll be two years before we have a court date.
00:02:50.600 He said, buddy, I'm sorry.
00:02:51.800 You're going to have to tough it out.
00:02:53.180 Get out of here.
00:02:54.420 23 months, two years.
00:02:55.900 And I told myself, you've lived in far worse places than this.
00:02:59.040 Are you married at this time or no?
00:03:00.480 What is your wife doing? 1.00
00:03:01.380 Because I know your wife was also in the CIA.
00:03:03.020 Yes.
00:03:03.380 She was fired from the CIA on the day of my arrest just because she was married to me. 1.00
00:03:08.740 No other reason.
00:03:09.620 Yeah.
00:03:10.480 And is that common etiquette because married or worried you're going to get?
00:03:14.100 Unprecedented.
00:03:14.900 Well, because Jonah Mendes and Tony Mendes were in it together and they were married for 28 years or something like that.
00:03:19.620 The CIA encourages agency romances because you're both cleared so you can talk about work.
00:03:25.380 We used to have this joke at the agency that we-
00:03:27.740 Marry another CIA. 0.87
00:03:28.760 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:03:29.340 Everybody's married. 0.73
00:03:30.300 We had this joke at the CIA that when you go into a meeting, don't touch the conference room table because you don't know who was having sex on it last night.
00:03:37.200 No.
00:03:37.780 Seriously?
00:03:38.340 Yeah, yeah.
00:03:38.720 Because they're married and they're just-
00:03:40.900 Oh, yeah.
00:03:41.660 Wow.
00:03:42.020 I worked for a deputy director of the CIA who had been married three times and all three of his wives had been his secretary.
00:03:48.500 All three of his wives had been his secretary. 0.88
00:03:51.260 So the place smells like Bedoucy.
00:03:52.740 It's just a terrible-
00:03:53.360 Yeah.
00:03:53.700 Wow.
00:03:54.300 Yeah.
00:03:54.500 It's not good.
00:03:55.060 Some people like that.
00:03:55.800 And that's why you've got a 75% divorce rate. 1.00
00:03:58.740 Wow.
00:03:59.000 Because they're all banging each other. 1.00
00:04:00.420 No, I mean, okay.
00:04:01.560 So, and are they banging each other and like dropping intel?
00:04:04.660 You don't even know what I learned yesterday.
00:04:06.500 Ooh, tell me.
00:04:07.640 Sometimes, yeah.
00:04:07.880 That's pretty nasty.
00:04:08.460 And then they'll ask you about that on the polygraph.
00:04:11.080 Yeah.
00:04:12.080 Interesting.
00:04:12.740 So, okay.
00:04:13.820 So now you're going through things.
00:04:16.320 Any famous people you were in there that we would know about?
00:04:18.680 Any bosses that we would know about?
00:04:20.960 Yeah, the boss of the Gambinos was there.
00:04:23.260 Which one?
00:04:24.500 Little Nicky Carrozzo.
00:04:25.860 Okay.
00:04:27.060 And the number three in the Bananos.
00:04:30.220 And you're hanging out with them?
00:04:31.480 Yeah.
00:04:31.700 In fact, the Italians adopted me.
00:04:35.340 So I was with the Italians the whole time I was there.
00:04:38.700 And did they know what your background is?
00:04:41.200 Oh, yeah.
00:04:41.520 They all know.
00:04:42.260 Oh, yeah.
00:04:42.560 They all know.
00:04:42.820 And how did they treat you?
00:04:43.280 And I'm still friends with all of them.
00:04:44.920 Did they treat you as a, were they afraid of you?
00:04:49.000 Did they respect you?
00:04:49.920 Did they hate you? 0.85
00:04:50.700 Did they want to kill you?
00:04:51.580 It was all respect.
00:04:52.480 And I owe the easy time that I had there.
00:04:56.820 I owe to Mark Lanzalotti.
00:04:59.700 So Mark was from Philadelphia.
00:05:02.840 With Scarfo and those guys?
00:05:04.220 Exactly.
00:05:04.460 And then he saw in the New York Times an article saying that I was coming to that prison.
00:05:12.240 And God bless him.
00:05:13.780 On his own volition, he went to every one of the Italians to explain to them, this CIA guy
00:05:19.660 is coming.
00:05:20.520 He's not a cop.
00:05:22.960 The FBI are cops. 0.70
00:05:25.180 The CIA protect us from the Muslims. 1.00
00:05:27.820 That's what he told them. 0.79
00:05:29.580 And so when I arrived, they had been told, I hate the FBI as much as they do.
00:05:35.360 And so we were all one big happy family.
00:05:39.300 Hi, everybody.
00:05:40.140 I'm John Kiriakou, former CIA officer.
00:05:43.100 Please find me on Manect.
00:05:44.380 We have a lot to talk about.
00:05:46.080 CIA, FBI, DOD, torture, secret prisons, international renditions.
00:05:52.120 Maybe you or your child want to apply for a job at the CIA and are looking for some tips.
00:05:57.100 Let me know.
00:05:57.880 There's a lot we can talk about.
00:06:00.020 You pick the subject.
00:06:01.000 We'll make it happen.
00:06:02.060 Again, it's on Manect.
00:06:03.620 Thanks, and I'll see you soon.
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