Valuetainment - July 30, 2025


"Public Trust Has CRATERED" - Trump's DOJ DROPS Charges Against Doctor Behind FAKE COVID Vaccines


Episode Stats

Length

16 minutes

Words per Minute

194.97546

Word Count

3,138

Sentence Count

297

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

In this episode, we talk about the case of Dr. Michael Kirkmore Jr. who was facing 35 years in prison for refusing to give his patients saline instead of the controversial COVID vaccine. This guy is a hero!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Do you remember the story of the doctor that was refusing to give COVID vaccine
00:00:03.860 and instead he was giving the patients saline?
00:00:09.040 He's a freaking hero, this guy.
00:00:10.880 What happened to him?
00:00:11.520 So Dr. Michael Kirkmore Jr., he's a plastic surgeon from Utah,
00:00:15.460 he was looking at 35 years in prison for refusing to play along with the COVID narrative.
00:00:20.300 This guy literally said no to the government.
00:00:23.220 And he and three other guys were accused, the doctors,
00:00:25.440 of destroying over $28,000 worth of vaccine doses and giving out nearly 2,000 vaccine cards.
00:00:32.620 But the truth, he wasn't giving out fake anything.
00:00:34.840 He was giving people a way out.
00:00:36.860 So instead of jabbing them with this experimental drug that we know now is giving all these problems,
00:00:41.540 turbo cancer up, myocarditis, sudden deaths are all the way up and nobody really wants to talk about it.
00:00:47.580 And especially kids, you know, parents that didn't want to poison their kids.
00:00:51.260 Pat, he was giving them a way out for them to go to school.
00:00:53.940 So he would go to the doctor, your family would go to the doctor and say,
00:00:57.440 look, I need the vaccine card, but can you please not give the vaccine shot?
00:01:02.540 And this guy would probably take it, dump the vaccine, but give them a saline shot so it wasn't the actual vaccine.
00:01:08.760 How did he actually get caught?
00:01:10.160 How did the guy actually get caught?
00:01:11.460 Do we know?
00:01:11.980 I don't know how he got caught, but he's...
00:01:14.100 Sounds like he was indicted.
00:01:15.400 I mean, if they dropped the charges, he had to...
00:01:17.280 Oh yeah, he was about to do 35 years.
00:01:20.380 But Pam Bondi stepped in mid-trial and just dropped the charges.
00:01:25.580 They dropped the charges for this guy.
00:01:26.980 And there's a video I sent, Rob.
00:01:28.420 Whenever you're done with that, Rob.
00:01:30.200 Pat, it was in a...
00:01:30.860 So here's what we know.
00:01:32.700 Routine vaccine distribution monitoring.
00:01:35.100 Utah, Plastic Surgeon Center.
00:01:36.760 Participant in the CDC for a vaccination program starting in October 20th.
00:01:40.980 Investigation findings.
00:01:41.960 Law enforcement, HHS.
00:01:43.360 Trace patterns where over $20,000 in government-supplied COVID-19 vaccine doses were destroyed.
00:01:48.220 Good, good.
00:01:48.780 Okay, syringe down drains rather than injected while at the same time nearly 1937 fraudulent
00:01:55.700 CDC vaccination cards were being issued.
00:01:59.340 Saline injections and falsified procedures.
00:02:01.720 I'm trying to find out how it happened, though.
00:02:03.820 How he got caught.
00:02:04.440 Those who qualified paid $100 per card.
00:02:07.220 Federal indictment.
00:02:07.940 General co-defendant.
00:02:09.540 January 11, 2023.
00:02:11.200 Charging conspiracy to defraud the United States.
00:02:13.940 But was he making money?
00:02:15.680 Was he doing anything?
00:02:16.500 No, no, he didn't profit from any of it.
00:02:18.440 He just...
00:02:19.060 No, no, no.
00:02:19.760 He had no...
00:02:20.540 Zero.
00:02:21.360 He made money.
00:02:22.660 Zero money.
00:02:23.340 He was just standing on principle.
00:02:25.720 And Rob has a video.
00:02:27.020 Rob, can you play this video?
00:02:27.720 He's on the steps.
00:02:28.380 I don't know what courthouse.
00:02:29.820 He is outside.
00:02:30.980 And it's such an emotional moment.
00:02:34.260 Keep going, Robby.
00:02:35.420 Keep going.
00:02:37.220 Oh, damn.
00:02:37.540 Did I send it to you, Rob?
00:02:38.720 I think it's a little bit lower.
00:02:40.800 I don't think I have it.
00:02:42.360 This is the only clip I have.
00:02:43.780 Oh, can you go...
00:02:44.520 Can you just play his name, Rob?
00:02:46.440 And him...
00:02:46.900 So he's on the steps.
00:02:48.180 And Rob, like, clearly emotional.
00:02:50.440 35 years for just giving them a different option.
00:02:53.580 The parents are like, yo, they won't let my kids go to school.
00:02:55.860 Which one is it?
00:02:56.520 This is it right here.
00:02:57.700 This is him?
00:02:58.260 Yep.
00:02:58.440 Just seeing people I haven't seen in years come over and stand with us.
00:03:14.480 It's just that some people...
00:03:17.840 You can pause it, Rob.
00:03:21.960 You can pause it, Rob.
00:03:22.780 No, I mean...
00:03:23.320 It's like thinking about while...
00:03:24.860 This close of 35 years.
00:03:26.640 Oh, my goodness.
00:03:27.780 And mind you, he kept poison, okay?
00:03:31.000 That's my...
00:03:31.760 What I feel about what the vaccine was.
00:03:33.700 Out of kids.
00:03:34.780 He gave parents a voice.
00:03:36.260 He saved lives.
00:03:37.200 And for that, they were trying to destroy him.
00:03:39.280 With everything that we know with COVID, that is a hero.
00:03:41.600 Not Dr. Fauci, which I just saw.
00:03:43.220 Remember that...
00:03:43.620 What do you think about this?
00:03:45.820 By the law, is this...
00:03:48.700 This is illegal, by the law, what he did.
00:03:51.520 Right?
00:03:51.880 I mean, to say, like, if somebody comes in, they're given vaccine.
00:03:56.060 So you can be seen as a hero, but by law, it is illegal or no?
00:04:01.220 Oh, yeah.
00:04:02.800 A certain group of citizens in 1776 took up arms illegally against the crown.
00:04:09.940 And so there have been points where citizens do extraordinary things.
00:04:14.220 Now, in this case, and by the way, you'll find liberals that think that they're doing
00:04:18.360 the right thing by violating a law on their side.
00:04:21.600 We feel we're doing this because we feel we're oppressed.
00:04:24.160 And what this guy did was he, in his heart, believed the vaccines were wrong.
00:04:31.860 The mandate was wrong.
00:04:33.100 And worse, medically speaking, he felt the efficacy wasn't there.
00:04:36.320 And so he helped people get vaccine cards so that they could go to school, so that they
00:04:41.520 could live and they could work.
00:04:43.440 And that's what he did.
00:04:44.720 And then when you turn the pages of history, now you find out, though, the truth comes out
00:04:50.020 that says, wait a minute, no way this guy should be prosecuted because we're unwinding all this.
00:04:55.280 We're discovering the scandal in all this.
00:04:57.880 And so the citizens that do something that is illegal is illegal.
00:05:02.320 And it's just which way are the pages of history going to turn?
00:05:04.960 I'm only asking to say, this guy did something believing it wasn't.
00:05:11.620 It's not like he did something that harmed the body.
00:05:14.280 The saline is not going to do anything to your body.
00:05:16.000 Absolutely nothing.
00:05:16.780 Correct.
00:05:17.120 He was doing something because he believed to his core that you shouldn't be forced to
00:05:21.240 do something.
00:05:21.820 Yes.
00:05:22.240 Correct.
00:05:22.500 I'm willing to bet he probably gave the vaccine to a lot of people that wanted it.
00:05:26.860 And the people that went in who didn't want it, he says, no, I'm not going to give
00:05:30.200 it to you because I'm going to give you the saline.
00:05:31.900 That's my understanding.
00:05:32.900 That's correct.
00:05:33.220 I will help you not do something because I go in and I say, doc, I don't want the
00:05:38.860 shot.
00:05:39.260 Can you just give me something else so I can get my vaccination card?
00:05:42.460 You know what?
00:05:43.080 I'll give you the saline.
00:05:44.340 Doc, I want the vaccine.
00:05:46.020 No problem.
00:05:46.720 I will give you the vaccine.
00:05:47.820 Yeah.
00:05:48.100 Yeah.
00:05:48.420 And think about this.
00:05:49.680 A parent going, hey, listen, I don't trust them.
00:05:53.000 Okay.
00:05:53.280 Rob, can you find that video?
00:05:54.460 Remember when Fauci and that girl, I don't know if they were in Chicago going up to
00:05:57.800 houses.
00:05:58.860 And that black guy was like, man, I don't trust any of you guys.
00:06:01.900 Imagine them going, hey, your kid can't come here.
00:06:04.840 You can't come here.
00:06:05.600 Both of you.
00:06:06.500 And this guy's like, listen, since we don't know the long term effects of this, I'm going
00:06:11.200 to give you guys.
00:06:11.840 This guy right here.
00:06:12.500 This was one of the I watch this once a month.
00:06:15.380 Oh, this guy's great.
00:06:16.040 Is this Fauci door-to-door?
00:06:17.760 The information that's been given to us right now.
00:06:20.440 So I'm not going to be lining up taking a shot on a vaccination for something that wasn't
00:06:26.720 clear in the first place.
00:06:27.680 Look at this rat.
00:06:28.200 And you all create a shot in miraculous time.
00:06:32.400 It takes years to create vaccination.
00:06:35.920 Well, it used to take years.
00:06:37.700 Okay, it used to take years.
00:06:39.260 You know how many years we're invested in this approach?
00:06:43.100 About 20 years of science to get us to be able to do it.
00:06:46.460 20 years is not enough.
00:06:47.440 And nine months is definitely not enough for nobody to be taking no vaccination that you
00:06:51.940 all came up with.
00:06:52.740 The only reason I'm talking to you right now, as close as we are, is that I've been vaccinated.
00:06:57.740 Right.
00:06:58.220 But if a lot of thousands of people like you don't get vaccinated, you're going to let
00:07:02.880 this virus continue to percolate in this country and in this world.
00:07:06.040 Something like the common flu then, right?
00:07:08.780 It's much more serious than the flu.
00:07:10.900 Well, the flu kills a lot of people annually, too.
00:07:13.060 You know how many people died of the flu the last year?
00:07:16.820 I mean, not this year, virtually none.
00:07:18.580 But the previous year, about 20,000 to 30,000.
00:07:21.360 How many people have died from COVID-19 in the United States?
00:07:24.840 600,000 Americans.
00:07:26.920 Well, the number that you all given that died, that's once again, that's you all's number.
00:07:33.340 You got passed.
00:07:34.000 Oh, perfect.
00:07:34.720 Definitely.
00:07:36.200 America went through this.
00:07:37.500 America went through this together.
00:07:39.380 And Scott, do you have any thoughts on this story with the doc?
00:07:42.060 Well, I think he was charged with destroying the vaccine.
00:07:45.180 So it was some value associated with that.
00:07:47.600 And then I guess when he gave the shots to the kids, even though the parents asked him
00:07:52.300 to do it, it was like defrauding the United States to give the kids – anyway, the charges
00:07:57.200 were wrapped up in that.
00:07:59.900 My view is that what we now know versus what we were told at the time is the reason that
00:08:07.440 our trust in public health institutions has cratered in this country.
00:08:12.920 I mean, we could not have destroyed confidence in our public health institutions more than
00:08:18.880 we did.
00:08:19.960 I mean, remember they were like nailing two-by-fours up over basketball hoops.
00:08:23.460 They were pouring sand on skateboard parks.
00:08:26.060 They were arresting people who were walking alone on beaches.
00:08:29.420 Paddleboarding all in LA.
00:08:30.400 It was crazy.
00:08:31.340 And so – except if you were willing to go outside and protest the current thing, you
00:08:37.160 were absolved.
00:08:38.380 The virus – the worst thing we did was tell people that the virus had a political compass.
00:08:44.180 Like the virus could tell if your politics were correct or not, and it would not afflict
00:08:47.740 you if you were protesting the correct thing.
00:08:49.920 So my view is what we did was wrong.
00:08:53.940 What we did has cratered trust in public health, and we're going to be paying for it and digging
00:09:00.200 out of this hole for a very long time.
00:09:01.960 And people are right to be skeptical because everything we were told – remember the initial
00:09:05.980 thing was if you get it, you can't transmit it.
00:09:10.320 Rachel Maddow.
00:09:11.060 And all these things we were told, you know, it wasn't true.
00:09:15.800 And at the time, these are – I mean, these people had big titles.
00:09:18.760 Vouchy, they had huge titles.
00:09:20.240 So, you know, you're inclined to want to believe, you know, the authorities on these
00:09:23.980 things.
00:09:25.180 Nothing they said.
00:09:26.220 I was one of those people that sort of trusted the science, allegedly.
00:09:31.260 And then when I started to lose trust, it was when I said, 100% effective.
00:09:37.040 Yeah.
00:09:37.720 99% effective.
00:09:40.120 90% effective.
00:09:43.440 50 – you know what?
00:09:44.920 We don't even know.
00:09:45.940 But you know what was true?
00:09:46.900 If you were going to dinner, and as long as you got to your table –
00:09:52.800 COVID left you alone.
00:09:53.600 Yeah.
00:09:54.380 COVID left you.
00:09:55.240 Yeah.
00:09:55.780 But if you were walking around, you had to put the mask on.
00:09:57.960 It could have got you at any moment.
00:09:59.140 The worst part is –
00:10:00.280 The table was home-based, though.
00:10:01.160 Yeah.
00:10:01.540 COVID didn't happen at dinner tables.
00:10:03.060 We all know that.
00:10:03.200 The worst thing we did – we all know that.
00:10:04.180 The worst thing we did was shut down the schools.
00:10:07.320 When we shut down the schools, we destroyed a generation of children's education.
00:10:13.340 We hurt their futures, and primarily they are the poorest kids, minority kids.
00:10:18.820 These are the ones whose parents do not have the resources to tutor and get around it.
00:10:23.160 Homeschooling.
00:10:24.120 And we kept the schools closed well beyond the point where the rest of the civilized world was opening the schools, Europe and everyone else.
00:10:31.680 We kept them closed at the behest of the teachers' unions, and we did it without giving a rip about what we were doing to these kids and their futures.
00:10:42.980 And no one has ever been held accountable for it.
00:10:45.900 I mean this is a generational theft of opportunity, of wealth, of how your life could have turned out.
00:10:52.300 We had your school closed.
00:10:53.340 To me, the most criminal thing we did, closed the schools, we kept them closed long past the point when we knew the truth, which was the kids were okay.
00:11:03.880 The kids were okay.
00:11:05.040 And their immune – and Scott, this is what pisses me off.
00:11:07.760 The children were the least needing of this freaking vaccine.
00:11:12.100 So I want to ask you guys, as fathers, if you came in because you were sold and duped about this freaking poison that they were selling,
00:11:19.120 now, in hindsight, if you had one of these kids that you found out this doctor gave them saline instead of this,
00:11:25.540 wouldn't you be happy at this point?
00:11:27.120 Wouldn't you say, wait a minute, he might have saved my kid from having myocarditis.
00:11:30.700 He might have saved my kid from having a stroke, which the numbers don't lie, bro.
00:11:34.180 The kids are sicker than ever.
00:11:36.220 They're freaking turbo cancer, myocarditis.
00:11:38.700 Would you be pissed off?
00:11:40.040 I'm genuinely – I'm really curious.
00:11:42.160 Would you be pissed knowing now that this guy, probably in the moment you're like, wait a minute, I wanted the vaccine.
00:11:46.960 I wanted this in my kid, but you gave him saline.
00:11:49.860 Now that you know because the science, Mr. Fauci and his lying ass, now would you be like, wait a minute.
00:11:55.540 Those are two different things.
00:11:58.240 The one is the guy sacrificed his career knowing he believed this wasn't good.
00:12:05.280 Yes.
00:12:05.820 Okay, so that's like the ultimate because he destroyed his career.
00:12:09.480 What's he going to do now?
00:12:10.500 I don't even know if he can still practice or not.
00:12:12.560 Is he still a doctor?
00:12:13.500 Did he lose his license to be a doctor?
00:12:15.000 Do we know if he lost his license?
00:12:16.960 Can you type in and say, did he lose his license?
00:12:20.440 Did, yeah, lose his right to practice medicine?
00:12:26.260 License or right to practice medicine?
00:12:27.940 Did he – yeah, let's see what it says.
00:12:30.080 Because if that – if it says no, let's see what the answer is here.
00:12:35.940 Did not lose his medical medicine practice medicine according to –
00:12:41.620 Good.
00:12:43.320 In July, the federal government dismissed all charges including actions.
00:12:46.280 Good for him.
00:12:46.900 Okay.
00:12:47.440 Thank God he didn't.
00:12:48.460 But by the way, if Pam Bondi was some other person on the left, that person's going to jail.
00:12:57.120 That person's going to lose their right to practice.
00:12:59.660 How many lawyers do you know that lost their, you know, ability to practice?
00:13:03.420 Because somebody came and destroyed their careers and they're like, hey, give me your license.
00:13:06.520 You can't practice anymore, right?
00:13:07.580 So on that end, yes, you know, as a parent at the moment, you're wanting this because you're so afraid with all the fear porn that everybody was selling you that in that moment, if you thought it wasn't real, you would have been very disappointed.
00:13:23.200 Anyways, you ever seen the movie The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo?
00:13:27.300 Yes.
00:13:27.620 Is that the one where the guy puts something in her body to tell the truth and it's only Selene and she's acting like she's like, you know – who's in this movie outside of this girl?
00:13:38.900 It's not – it's Daniel Craig.
00:13:40.520 No, I don't think it's this one.
00:13:42.120 Then what movie is that where the girl comes in?
00:13:44.640 It's the guy from Enemy at the Gates.
00:13:46.600 Whatever the guy's name is the sniper from Enemy at the Gates.
00:13:49.780 Jude Law?
00:13:50.480 Who's that?
00:13:50.880 I think – I don't know.
00:13:52.440 There's a scene where the guy from Enemy at the Gates, that guy right there.
00:13:56.080 Jude Law.
00:13:56.480 Yeah, Jude Law is a doctor that gives Selene to the girl.
00:14:00.920 The girl acts like she has been given it and then she starts talking and then he says, listen, I never gave you the truth serum.
00:14:09.240 I gave you Selene.
00:14:10.420 You're full of shit.
00:14:11.160 That's kind of when he found that.
00:14:12.420 So that's a different motive with this one.
00:14:15.500 But – oh, man, that was a very interesting –
00:14:16.820 Dr. Jonathan Banks?
00:14:18.320 Is that the movie?
00:14:19.120 I don't know what movie that is.
00:14:19.540 I've got to find that scene.
00:14:20.580 It's a –
00:14:20.880 Oh, Side Effects.
00:14:22.000 Side Effects 2013.
00:14:23.480 It could be.
00:14:24.160 Rob, go to Side Effects 2013.
00:14:24.740 That's the one.
00:14:25.820 There it is.
00:14:26.140 That's the one.
00:14:27.300 That's the movie.
00:14:27.840 Good call.
00:14:28.460 Yep.
00:14:28.880 Yeah, she was a psychopath in this movie.
00:14:31.060 Yeah, she was.
00:14:31.800 And it's the whole story with the Selene.
00:14:33.580 But anyway, actually, it's worth watching.
00:14:35.200 It's a dark, dark movie if you like those kinds of movies.
00:14:38.280 I know Adam does, but for some of you guys, you guys wouldn't –
00:14:40.640 She's a psychopath?
00:14:41.640 Yeah.
00:14:42.120 That's your kind of girl right there.
00:14:43.200 Yeah, she's single.
00:14:43.980 Hit me up.
00:14:44.520 Yeah.
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