Valuetainment - ＂Putin Is Coming For A Showdown＂ - Why Trump & Putin’s Alaska Summit Could EXLUDE Zelenskyy

00:00:00.000 Donald Trump confirms Putin is flying into U.S. soil for a showdown meeting.

00:00:07.260 And again, that is this Friday in Alaska.

00:00:11.020 Let me read this to you, and then we're going to go to the video.

00:00:13.980 So this says page 9, but I don't see it on page 9.

00:00:18.960 Let me see this here.

00:00:21.020 Donald Trump confirms.

00:00:22.900 And here it says.

00:00:24.280 Try page 5, Pep.

00:00:26.200 No, on here on the notes it says page 9.

00:00:30.000 Oh, it's not 5.

00:00:31.640 Rob, do you know what page that's on?

00:00:32.580 Page 4.

00:00:33.460 Donald Trump confirms Putin is flying to U.S. soil for a showdown meeting.

00:00:36.940 Okay, do you see it where it says 9?

00:00:39.300 Look at the notes at the top.

00:00:40.440 It says 9.

00:00:40.960 I don't know if you see that.

00:00:41.780 I'll just read it.

00:00:46.260 President Trump announced on Truth Social that he'll meet Russian President Vladimir Putin on the 15th in Alaska,

00:00:52.320 stating the highly anticipated meeting between myself as the President of the United States

00:00:58.540 and Vladimir Putin of Russia will take place next Friday, August 15th, in the great state of Alaska.

00:01:03.920 Trump told reporters the war between Ukraine and Russia lasting three and a half years is complicated.

00:01:08.780 Rob, if this is the clip, go ahead and play this clip.

00:01:11.540 Does Putin have to meet with Zelensky in order and before you and Putin have to meet?

00:01:16.900 No.

00:01:18.140 Are you hoping for him?

00:01:18.500 So you're willing to, that's actually important because the President, President Putin said this morning,

00:01:22.280 he was pretty dismissive of this idea of meeting with President Zelensky.

00:01:24.620 Who was?

00:01:25.460 President Putin was.

00:01:26.580 I don't know.

00:01:27.040 I didn't hear him.

00:01:27.440 If you need to meet with him, he doesn't have to agree to meet with Zelensky.

00:01:30.220 Is that what you're saying?

00:01:31.180 No, he doesn't.

00:01:31.960 No, no.

00:01:32.740 So when do you think that meeting is going to be?

00:01:33.660 They would like to meet with me and I'll do whatever I can to stop the killing.

00:01:37.220 So last month they lost 14,000 people killed last month.

00:01:44.960 Every week is four or five thousand people.

00:01:48.040 So I don't like long waits.

00:01:51.580 I think it's a shame.

00:01:52.620 And they're mostly soldiers.

00:01:54.140 They're Ukrainian and Russian soldiers.

00:01:55.720 And some people from the cities where, you know, missiles are lobbed in and you'll lose 35, 40 people a night, which is terrible.

00:02:03.940 But, no, mostly it's soldiers and you're talking about, on average, 20,000 a month.

00:02:11.700 20,000 people are dying a month.

00:02:13.660 Young, generally young people, soldiers.

00:02:16.800 Okay, so this was supposed to be the president of war.

00:02:19.900 So this sounds like the president of peace.

00:02:21.660 But they invited Zelensky, okay, just to kind of give you a little bit more context.

00:02:26.600 They're thinking about inviting Zelensky to the summit, okay?

00:02:30.960 It's being discussed.

00:02:32.180 And another saying it's absolutely possible.

00:02:34.880 Adding everyone is very hopeful that would happen, a senior White House official clarified.

00:02:39.400 The president remains open to a trilateral summit with both leaders.

00:02:43.540 Right now the White House is focusing on planning the bilateral meeting requested by Putin without Zelensky being there.

00:02:50.060 And at the same time, she says to – is this the clip of him, by the way?

00:02:54.680 Yes.

00:02:55.080 The translation is just a little off.

00:02:57.480 We used AI to translate it.

00:02:58.900 But this is Zelensky saying that Ukraine would not surrender territory to Russia.

00:03:02.500 That's what's important.

00:03:03.860 So if you want to play this clip, Rob, because this is the part that matters.

00:03:07.360 Go ahead.

00:03:07.660 The Ukrainian territorial issue is already in the constitution of Ukraine.

00:03:12.480 Nobody will be able to deviate from this.

00:03:15.140 Ukrainians will not give their land to the ecoupent. 0.88

00:03:17.960 Ukraine is ready for real decisions that can give peace.

00:03:21.020 Budi Karishnyi, who are against us.

00:03:22.980 Buda Karishnyi, who without Ukraine, they are once against us. 1.00

00:03:26.520 Oh, one, give nothing.

00:03:27.740 It's dead, Rishnin. 1.00

00:03:28.880 They will never work.

00:03:29.880 And we all need a real living peace here.

00:03:32.000 Which people will respect.

00:03:33.200 Okay, so when you hear that, then you hear the response, Putin reportedly willing to end the war if he gets eastern Ukraine.

00:03:42.120 And Zelensky flat out telling you, I'm not interested.

00:03:44.820 Here's Putin.

00:03:46.200 In our conditions, to start such a conversation simple and come down to the following.

00:03:52.040 Ukrainian troops must be completely withdrawn from Donetsk, Lugansk People's Republics, Kyrsten and Zaporizhaya for regions.

00:03:59.040 And I draw attention precisely from the entire territory of these.

00:04:03.200 Regions, the limits of their administrative borders, which existed at the time of their driving in Ukraine.

00:04:09.980 As soon as Mkaiv, they declare that she is ready for such. 0.67

00:04:13.300 The resolution will begin the real conclusions of the troops from these regions, as well as officially notified of the rejection of plans to enter.

00:04:20.700 In NATO on our part immediately, literally in the same, a minute will follow the order to cease the fire and begin the negotiation.

00:04:28.900 I repeat, we will do it immediately.

00:04:31.480 Naturally, at the same time, we guarantee an irresistible and safe discharge of Ukrainian units and formations. 0.99

00:04:37.720 Of course, we would like to count on what a decision is and about the withdrawal of troops and about outside-the-block status.

00:04:45.260 And he began dialogue with Russia from which to declare, from the future existence of Ukraine, Mkaiv will be accepted.

00:04:51.440 You can pause it right there.

00:04:52.120 Okay, so Tom, what do you think is going to happen here on Friday?

00:04:54.940 You think Zelensky is going to show up?

00:04:56.220 You think he's not going to show up?

00:04:57.760 You think Zelensky is going to eventually give eastern Ukraine?

00:04:59.880 What do you think is going to end up happening?

00:05:00.940 I think Zelensky has to show up, and he's playing a little bit of a game now, but the advisers and people that are around Zelensky are like, hey, this is serious.

00:05:11.540 You need to go to this, and you need to go to the table.

00:05:15.500 And what Russia is asking for is basically the Russian-speaking region of Ukraine that long ago was part of Russia.

00:05:26.140 Now you can make your own conclusion about where you say, well, you don't bully yourself back into it, but also it was triggered because of the threat to enter NATO after being told they weren't.

00:05:39.420 So I think Zelensky, for all the reasons, for the NATO reason, for the territory reason, and for the war reason, he can't not show up.

00:05:48.000 I think if he doesn't show up, it's just like a really bad look.

00:05:50.800 So you want to continue this war?

00:05:52.760 You're not going to show up?

00:05:53.620 They're trying to have a peace, and peace treaties like this, this is how they happen, on neutral soil with an intermediary.

00:06:01.420 Can you do this, Tom?

00:06:02.200 Can I ask you a question?

00:06:03.520 So argue it.

00:06:04.920 Let's play a game, okay?

00:06:06.520 Argue it from Zelensky's standpoint.

00:06:08.380 This goes to everybody.

00:06:09.360 Argue it from Zelensky's standpoint of, you know, what do you mean give up Eastern Request?

00:06:13.020 I don't have to show up.

00:06:13.900 You guys want to do this without me.

00:06:15.560 You can't negotiate.

00:06:16.560 Argue it from his standpoint.

00:06:17.620 If I'm going to show up and all you're going to tell me is I've got to get back Dornbus and all that historical part of Ukraine that speaks Russian, I didn't draw the line. 0.96

00:06:27.080 The line was drawn by the international community decades ago, and then you bullied your way across the line. 1.00

00:06:34.480 You can tell me that you thought we were going to join NATO and it pissed you off, but you bullied yourself across the line.

00:06:40.540 And, you know, the U.S., Biden basically winked at you and said if it was a small incursion, he wouldn't go after you.

00:06:50.160 So the U.S. kind of winked.

00:06:52.300 President Biden kind of winked and got this thing started.

00:06:55.300 And now you want me to come sit in front of a U.S. president with Putin and Putin saying he wants land given back?

00:07:02.460 You want me to go sit for that?

00:07:03.980 And that was great.

00:07:04.580 Would you add anything to the Ukraine-Zelensky argument?

00:07:08.080 No, because he made a great point.

00:07:09.800 That's one of the main ones.

00:07:10.620 I would have said, listen, the previous president said it's okay if Russia comes in and does a small attack, a small incursion.

00:07:16.800 So not flip it.

00:07:17.340 So you guys asked it.

00:07:18.100 So not flip it, Vinny, to you.

00:07:19.740 Be Putin.

00:07:20.440 Give Putin's argument, Ted.

00:07:22.080 Yeah, listen, I'm willing to come and, you know, do you want him there?

00:07:24.860 Do you not want him there?

00:07:25.920 All play Putin.

00:07:26.580 I want him there because at the end of the day, I told all of you, don't put, don't, what was it, one inch of NATO?

00:07:34.100 I don't want any expansion.

00:07:35.200 Biden, the previous president, told us, you know, told us that we could come in and told us that we could attack.

00:07:40.700 We just, you guys gave us the green light, so we're doing it.

00:07:43.480 Time and time again, this guy is showing that he has zero respect.

00:07:46.540 Okay?

00:07:46.780 He comes into the White House.

00:07:47.860 He disrespects all of you.

00:07:49.460 I want peace.

00:07:50.220 I was told not to, you guys not to push.

00:07:52.300 You guys push.

00:07:53.060 I'm just sticking up for my people.

00:07:54.520 That's it.

00:07:55.400 Adam, where are you at?

00:07:56.100 So, playing Putin and playing Zelensky, every war in the world comes down to two things.

00:08:01.960 Whose land is it?

00:08:03.700 And what is the identity of the people that want the land?

00:08:07.000 So, if you're Russia, you, the land that you're fighting for, you believe, is Russian land and Russian identity.

00:08:16.240 What, if I'm Putin, there's a couple of things that I'm majorly concerned about.

00:08:19.980 Number one, and first and foremost, is NATO encroaching east and east and east and east.

00:08:26.760 You want nyet of this.

00:08:28.280 Nyet means nyet.

00:08:28.740 They also want sanctions removed.

00:08:31.920 Don't forget about it.

00:08:32.780 Economic sanctions are a major part of this.

00:08:35.520 Selling their Russian oil, everything that's going on around the world.

00:08:38.880 After they fix the pipelines.

00:08:41.040 That's true.

00:08:41.640 The Nord Stream, too.

00:08:42.900 And then, obviously, territory.

00:08:43.840 As far as Zelensky goes, he wants, first and foremost, a cessation of aggression.

00:08:50.520 Stop bombing our land. 0.94

00:08:52.040 Stop trying to take our land.

00:08:53.320 We'll debate whose land that is.

00:08:54.860 He also wants security guarantees.

00:08:56.860 So, when this war eventually does stop, Putin stops attacking.

00:09:01.480 You know, you talked about NATO and GDP.

00:09:04.280 It's always been 2%.

00:09:05.600 There's countries like Poland and other countries that are closer to the border who are saying,

00:09:09.540 no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:09:10.700 We're going to give 4%.

00:09:11.660 We're going to give 5% in many cases.

00:09:13.840 But, Putin is the bully here, let's be clear.

00:09:17.760 And, Zelensky, as weak as he seems, his major message is, leave us alone.

00:09:24.560 We'll see what happens.

00:09:25.380 Yeah.

00:09:25.740 So, essentially, if I'm Putin, they're talking about, do you think Trump would want Putin

00:09:32.120 and Zelensky in the same room?

00:09:33.380 Or, do you think Trump would want just an isolated bilateral meeting with Putin and then

00:09:38.420 an isolated bilateral meeting with Zelensky?

00:09:40.440 I think, at this point, let's take what we can get.

00:09:43.840 I think the world, in the reality TV show that we're all living in, would love to see Trump

00:09:48.980 in the middle.

00:09:49.180 I totally get what you're saying.

00:09:50.000 And Putin and Zelensky there.

00:09:51.160 No, no, no.

00:09:51.300 That's not what I ask.

00:09:52.300 Let's take what we can get.

00:09:54.860 I get.

00:09:55.320 But, what would Trump prefer?

00:09:58.100 Would he prefer both in the room?

00:09:59.460 Yes.

00:09:59.980 Or, does he not want Zelensky to disrupt a meeting so he can just have a meeting with Putin?

00:10:03.720 Well, think about it.

00:10:04.460 If you're doing a negotiation, if you were, if Vinny and I were fighting, which we always

00:10:09.240 do, would you want to have a conversation with Vinny first?

00:10:12.660 Would you rather have a conversation with Adam first?

00:10:14.760 Or, would you want us both there?

00:10:16.080 I don't know the right or wrong reasons.

00:10:17.460 You've dealt with many of these things.

00:10:18.860 If I, let's just say, let's go a little bit deeper there.

00:10:22.880 Let's just say the last time I tried to have a meeting with you publicly, you took advantage

00:10:27.360 of the limelight and the camera and you embarrassed me and my company.

00:10:31.480 That's what you did last time.

00:10:32.880 In front of my entire company, you embarrassed me, right?

00:10:35.560 Let's just say that was the case.

00:10:37.940 Does Trump still want both people to be there?

00:10:40.360 Does Trump just want Putin to be there?

00:10:43.200 You know what I'm asking?

00:10:44.160 More than likely, he wants Putin there for sure.

00:10:46.940 He wants Putin there.

00:10:48.560 Meaning, if Zelensky's there, a little bonus, but he wants a one-on-one with Putin.

00:10:53.040 I think where Trump is, especially after all that, I would want them, obviously they're

00:10:57.480 going to have their handlers or whatever and their people, their security, and just be

00:11:00.340 like, hey, listen guys, enough is enough.

00:11:02.980 You're doing what you're doing.

00:11:04.240 We know with his attitude, especially, and we know where you're at, let's just end it.

00:11:09.060 Just stop it.

00:11:10.220 And then the negotiation, he has to have him in there.

00:11:12.220 But seeing his attitude, going back to your initial question, Pat, I don't think he's going

00:11:15.940 to show up.

00:11:16.440 I don't think, did you see Zelensky's interview there?

00:11:18.500 I don't think Putin's going to show up.

00:11:19.760 No, Zelensky.

00:11:20.560 I have a feeling Zelensky's not going to show up.

00:11:21.980 If I'm Trump, I want them both in the room.

00:11:24.180 But there's back-channeling going on.

00:11:26.040 Look at Whitcoff. 0.98

00:11:27.260 The White House announced.

00:11:28.740 Steve Whitcoff, yeah.

00:11:29.220 The White House announced that last Thursday, Friday, I believe, Whitcoff had highly productive

00:11:34.000 meetings with Putin that they said sealed the deal for him to come over here and to

00:11:38.960 be part of a summit.

00:11:40.380 And so the back-channel is working.

00:11:42.500 And if we don't think that there's also a back-channel to Zelensky right now, it's got

00:11:46.700 to be.

00:11:46.980 It's like, hey, man, you're going to look terrible, and this is going to be a charade.

00:11:50.020 But if I'm Trump, I want them both in the room.

00:11:53.040 But I want to make sure I'm back-channeling some rules of engagement.

00:11:56.100 What do you think, Pat?

00:11:56.760 If they were negotiating this deal, how would you want to see this play out?

00:11:59.060 So let's go through one by one by one.

00:12:00.940 If I'm Trump, I want everybody in the room.

00:12:03.080 If I'm Zelensky, I want to be in the room because I know I can get under the skin of 1.00

00:12:08.040 both of them if I'm Zelensky.

00:12:09.280 Zelensky is that guy that is going to take advantage of this opportunity to make himself

00:12:15.260 look good and try to embarrass both of them.

00:12:18.300 And he knows how to get under Putin's skin.

00:12:21.840 And by getting under Putin's skin and disrupting the meeting, he's indirectly going under Trump's

00:12:26.600 skin.

00:12:26.800 And then Trump, behind closed doors, just did a minerals deal with Zelensky, which means

00:12:32.600 if that got done, he almost has to, in that minerals deal, I'm assuming there was some

00:12:37.400 kind of an exchange that you can't increase tariffs on us for the next five years or three

00:12:42.280 years.

00:12:42.780 And I don't know the details of it, but whatever the minerals deal was, Ukraine would be dummies 0.83

00:12:47.840 to negotiate a, what do you call it, a minerals deal without a guaranteed you not increasing

00:12:53.880 tariffs on me for at least five years.

00:12:55.380 And the reason why I would negotiate five years is because I would want the tariffs deal

00:12:59.600 to be after Trump is out because I don't want somebody like Trump to be in president so

00:13:03.960 he can increase it.

00:13:05.060 So in this place, believe it or not, Zelensky has a little bit of control because if he got

00:13:10.720 that insurance, if he didn't, he's an idiot if they didn't.

00:13:12.980 But so then you go to Putin, he's the only one that I think just wants it to be him and

00:13:20.280 Trump.

00:13:21.380 I think Zelensky, Putin's the only one that doesn't want Zelensky to be there at all,

00:13:26.400 whatsoever, because he doesn't trust him.

00:13:28.860 He doesn't trust him at all.

00:13:30.120 He doesn't trust the fact that he's going to be behaving.

00:13:32.120 And in a strange, unique way, Zelensky here is the linchpin because he's the most unpredictable.

00:13:41.060 You know what Trump's going to do.

00:13:42.720 You know what Putin's going to do.

00:13:44.140 You don't know what Zelensky is going to do.

00:13:45.980 So he's the disruptor in this instance, in my opinion, in my opinion.

00:13:51.260 And who's asking?

00:13:53.180 Who has to give?

00:13:55.200 Putin's asking.

00:13:56.180 Zelensky has to give.

00:13:57.060 He doesn't have to give.

00:13:59.140 But in this case, you know, I don't know.

00:14:03.680 Those are the dynamics where I see.

00:14:05.340 Now, if there's anybody that can broker a deal, Trump has to have some kind of a leverage

00:14:10.100 behind closed doors that it could be as simple as allowing Putin to join NATO.

00:14:18.100 If he allows Putin to join NATO, guess who doesn't want that?

00:14:22.060 Ukraine doesn't want that.

00:14:23.440 Zelensky doesn't want that.

00:14:24.640 NATO doesn't want that.

00:14:25.620 So imagine if he's coming out there playing aggressive, saying, no, I know Bill Clinton

00:14:29.380 or Bush, those guys said no to Putin about joining NATO.

00:14:32.980 I'm actually going to have him on NATO.

00:14:34.600 So I think there's an element of knowing Trump's capable of doing anything, but he's going to

00:14:39.880 have to poke in the NATO way.

00:14:41.180 I don't think he can poke with a terrible point.

00:14:42.420 Can I give you one more piece of the puzzle?

00:14:43.360 Absolutely.

00:14:43.960 So one thing that we've got to think about, you know, you're always talking about who's

00:14:46.780 in your ear, who's in your ear.

00:14:48.080 Yeah.

00:14:48.720 Well, in a meeting like this, it's almost who's in your corner.

00:14:52.640 So in Zelensky's corner, you have the EU, you have NATO, you have Poland, you sort of

00:14:57.580 have the Eastern European states.

00:15:00.620 You have the United States to a capacity, Western allies, Canada.

00:15:04.560 And then who's in Russia's ear? 0.82

00:15:06.540 Well, you have China, you have Iran, or what's left of what's going on in Iran.

00:15:11.540 You have North Korea, you have Belarus, which is the only country in that region that is sort 0.90

00:15:16.260 of full support of Russia.

00:15:17.920 So they're going to play a role in basically negotiations.

00:15:22.760 Who are these people in Putin's ear and in Zelensky's ear?

00:15:26.360 And Zelensky, who's more of a puppet?

00:15:29.240 Zelensky or Putin?

00:15:30.180 Zelensky.

00:15:30.740 You know, everyone's, Trump is Putin's puppet.

00:15:33.080 I think nobody believes that at this point.

00:15:34.680 Zelensky's a puppet to who, though?

00:15:35.680 Zelensky's a puppet to the world and the Western allies of the world. 0.99

00:15:39.980 Just so you know, in this instance, he's a puppet to nobody.

00:15:47.060 In this situation, he's not a puppet to anybody.

00:15:49.600 Why do you say that?

00:15:50.580 He's not a puppet to Trump or he's not a puppet to Putin.

00:15:53.080 Well, he's a puppet to his financial backers.

00:15:56.280 He's a puppet to the establishment.

00:15:58.640 Sure.

00:15:59.360 And under Biden, yes, because they kept giving him stuff.

00:16:03.820 In this instance, this is a very different scenario.

00:16:07.620 Very different scenario.

00:16:08.640 So, Pat, the Warhawks, Pat, the Lindsey Grahams, the Mitch McConnells,

00:16:12.420 the contractors, the weapons and all the defense contractors,

00:16:17.340 they're all, you were talking about back-channeling.

00:16:19.540 How many people are in his ear, Pat, behind the scenes going,

00:16:22.760 hey, you still want these billions, don't you freak?

00:16:25.500 Because the goal is to what?

00:16:27.300 Not have any, don't give in.

00:16:28.980 Those people don't have control right now.

00:16:30.300 No control.

00:16:30.820 What I'm saying is, can they be in his ear?

00:16:32.380 No, so here's, what is the likelihood?

00:16:36.520 He's speaking to the establishment in the U.S. government right now.

00:16:41.040 Pretty high, I think.

00:16:41.960 Yeah.

00:16:42.340 I think pretty high.

00:16:43.020 100%.

00:16:43.140 And I think the key there is Starmer.

00:16:45.180 Because remember, Starmer cut the deal.

00:16:47.180 Yeah.

00:16:47.320 That for every U.K. pound of aid, there was like another pound of debt.

00:16:53.960 Remember, it was actually debt.

00:16:55.580 And that's what the criticism came from it.

00:16:57.080 You're not giving them aid.

00:16:57.960 You're permanently indebting Ukraine to you when you're taking advantage of it 1.00

00:17:02.160 because they're upset at the U.S.A.

00:17:03.420 I think there's a lot of people in the back there right now.

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00:18:15.240 and they'll tell me how they're watching the podcast.

00:18:16.740 But they'll say, man, look at my Future Looks Bride hat.

00:18:18.420 Look at my Future Looks Bride gear.

00:18:20.100 Love seeing the support.

00:18:21.680 More importantly, we need to convert more people that are coming here.

00:18:24.900 We were just in L.A. this last weekend for, what do you call it, that show that happens.

00:18:29.840 We won't post any of the pictures.

00:18:31.020 You know the guy that sits in the middle and 20 people grill you?

00:18:34.420 I was in the middle with 20 anti-capitalists.

00:18:35.900 That was awesome, Pat.

00:18:37.020 It was epic.

00:18:38.160 It was fire.

00:18:39.160 And it will be released in the next four to six weeks.

00:18:42.100 Cannot wait to have you guys see it.

00:18:43.660 But the whole premise is we need more people thinking the future looks bright

00:18:47.580 instead of being victims.

00:18:49.620 And, you know, it's not fair.

00:18:51.020 I'm not happy about what's going to happen.

00:18:52.540 I'm so scared about the future.

00:18:53.800 So if you support that as well, go to vtmerch.com.

00:18:56.580 Place your order.

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