Valuetainment - September 23, 2026


Putin Is Preparing to Escalate the War

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00:00:30.000 Putin's preparing to escalate war.
00:00:32.300 A lot of people are worried in the EU because militaries are moving.
00:00:35.680 Countries are moving their military.
00:00:37.780 There's some movements going on, and Trump yesterday said that they're planning on building a new U.S. base in Poland
00:00:43.580 as NATO ally leader warns of real risk from Russia.
00:00:47.460 That's a real conversation that's being had with the military base being led there.
00:00:50.860 Ukraine launches 1,000 drones at Russia, including hundreds fired at Moscow in largest attack ever.
00:01:01.000 This isn't like a small little thing we're talking about.
00:01:04.120 The largest attack ever just happened.
00:01:08.260 Tom, how serious do you think this is?
00:01:10.780 I think this is really serious.
00:01:12.700 Three things happened over the weekend.
00:01:14.720 Why do these all happen in threes?
00:01:15.980 The first thing that happened over the weekend is that Zelensky and Witkoff and Kushner had been speaking in recent weeks, recent days, and Zelensky came out and thanked the U.S. president for a phone call.
00:01:30.580 Think about how far this has come.
00:01:32.040 My goodness.
00:01:32.580 Remember they were screaming in the Oval Office a year and a half ago, and he's sitting there with J.D. Vance and they're getting into it, and now he's actually thanking the president for a civil phone call and for peace discussion.
00:01:44.060 So point one, there's been peace discussions in the back door.
00:01:48.580 Point two, publicly Zelensky and Trump, hey, thank you very much, Mr. President.
00:01:53.080 I appreciate this.
00:01:54.120 And then point three, it's been hitting the fan between Ukraine and Russia.
00:02:00.380 They're really escalating things.
00:02:02.140 It's not just one little drone or a little missile that comes over to a fuel dump and they say, see, I can get you.
00:02:09.120 I can get you.
00:02:10.020 No, this is big.
00:02:11.040 And this is this is making this makes me nervous about what's going on over in Russia, because I think this is this is an escalation and Putin doesn't want this.
00:02:22.480 And when they when they start hitting each other's oil infrastructure, the whole world loses because we're right now on demand edge anyway.
00:02:30.460 And, Pat, I think this is a very significant escalation.
00:02:33.960 This needs to back off.
00:02:35.400 If this is the largest attack Ukraine has done, and he's saying, I want to thank the president of the conversation I had, 0.59
00:02:42.780 do you believe the president knew Ukraine's about to do the largest attack they've ever done on Putin, on Russia? 0.67
00:02:49.520 How can you not?
00:02:50.740 Okay.
00:02:51.360 Do you agree?
00:02:52.520 Yeah, so then here's the question.
00:02:54.200 Then the question becomes, you know, what do you think if you're Putin and this just happened?
00:03:00.300 What do you think if you're Putin and you get calls from the U.S.?
00:03:02.800 Do you think U.S. calls and says Ukraine's about to attack you?
00:03:07.300 Or do you think that was a surprise attack and Russia didn't know at all?
00:03:10.240 You think Russia knew?
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00:03:43.040 I think the intelligence is so good these days.
00:03:45.380 Not the intelligence.
00:03:46.460 You think Russia knew because the U.S. gave him that message?
00:03:48.480 I don't think we were. 0.99
00:03:49.180 I agree.
00:03:49.620 I don't think they did.
00:03:50.300 Okay, so you're now Putin, and I think the story just came out, you know, of, you know,
00:03:58.980 stories with Putin still being in power and then Trump tweeted this thing here I don't know if you
00:04:04.640 guys want to put this up just a couple hours ago Russia has unfortunately lost control of his diesel
00:04:08.900 oil industry due to his war with Ukraine a large number of diesel refiner of their diesel refineries
00:04:14.180 have been blown up and are at least temporarily out of commission this ridiculous and never-ending
00:04:20.260 war with Ukraine must be ended the whole world suffers as 25,000 people mostly soldiers are being
00:04:27.380 killed each month what a shame that's a direct call out to who to putin putin to putin now the
00:04:35.680 pro-putin people will say what you guys when you guys at the warsaw agreement you guys promised us
00:04:40.980 you're not going to be constantly going east and you keep going constantly east and now you're
00:04:45.060 saying you want to build a military base in poland what happened to all the nato ally and you know
00:04:50.100 you guys are not going to do this you know so the part i want to be thinking about right now is i
00:04:56.740 I mean, of course, we're speculating.
00:04:58.540 What is Putin thinking right now?
00:05:01.260 You think Putin's at a point right now where he's kind of like,
00:05:03.400 well, you know what, I'm done.
00:05:04.880 Let's agree.
00:05:05.560 Let's wrap it up.
00:05:06.240 You think that's where Putin's at?
00:05:07.540 I don't know.
00:05:08.220 No.
00:05:08.680 Okay.
00:05:09.420 Is this it, by the way, that they hit the—
00:05:10.940 This is Russia, by the way. 0.60
00:05:12.080 That looks like a video game. 0.99
00:05:13.120 It looks fake. 0.97
00:05:13.760 It looks like a video game, but this is Russia for you. 1.00
00:05:16.020 That's not good, bro. 0.52
00:05:17.280 No, this is Russia, okay, of what they're dealing with.
00:05:20.120 So Putin is preparing to escalate the war against Ukraine
00:05:23.220 with a stealth mobilization to be launched after this weekend's regional elections,
00:05:28.100 according to Western Intelligence.
00:05:29.840 And I think he's getting the elections.
00:05:31.760 A lot of his guys are getting reelected.
00:05:33.580 A senior intelligence source told The Telegraph the Kremlin plans to quietly expand conscription.
00:05:38.500 Once voted or counted, avoiding the backlash a formal announcement would bring,
00:05:42.800 the plan is to do it in the shadows.
00:05:45.700 The urgency reflects staggering losses.
00:05:48.620 Western estimates put Russian casualties at 1.5 million, Vinny.
00:05:53.220 That's insane.
00:05:54.060 Russian casuals at 1.5 million, including some 500,000 dead.
00:05:57.940 Since the full-scale invasion began, with manpower dwindling,
00:06:01.700 recruiters have resorted to forcing prisoners, debtors, and even students into uniform.
00:06:05.920 Though officials doubt new troops will have the equipment to matter quickly,
00:06:11.740 the escalation comes at the U.S. considering withdrawing 25,000 to 40,000 troops from Europe,
00:06:16.560 a move Washington officially denies, but NATO commanders have discussed behind closed doors.
00:06:20.980 French President Macron has unveiled a plan to protect Europe's critical infrastructure in response.
00:06:26.320 This is not pretty here.
00:06:28.180 This looks like it could get nasty.
00:06:30.540 Tom, the level of nastiness, Putin's sitting there reading all the articles saying Zelensky and Ukraine,
00:06:39.440 just that their biggest attack launches the biggest attack ever, right, CBS.
00:06:45.980 You think he's going to have his largest attack as a retaliation towards Ukraine?
00:06:49.460 Yes. Let me tell you, you know, I think that train ride from Warsaw to Kiev sounds exciting.
00:06:55.840 But let me tell you, yeah, you think Russia is the guy at the table that says, you know, I'll see your 50,000 and I'll raise you.
00:07:04.920 I mean, even if he's holding, you know, you know, a jack and a two and Putin just doesn't play around and he'll come back and hit hard to put this war into scope.
00:07:16.940 The United States lost 405,000 men died in World War II.
00:07:23.060 405.
00:07:23.760 You see that number they've already lost here?
00:07:25.480 That's 500,000, yeah.
00:07:26.840 Twice.
00:07:27.280 Twice with the U.S., okay?
00:07:29.000 And then Vietnam was 58,000 dead.
00:07:31.540 They're on that precious wall that's in Washington, D.C.
00:07:35.440 Korea, 36,000.
00:07:37.580 They're losing every two days. 0.60
00:07:42.000 It's a Vietnam war.
00:07:43.700 and so when you think about this you're like my gosh you know aren't they aren't they gonna run
00:07:50.560 out of of able-bodied soldiers at some point and doesn't somebody want to get sensible
00:07:56.080 that's my second thought but my first thought that guy is KGB they always come back harder
00:08:02.840 always and Pat he's think about it if you're Russia every besides China and all that you know
00:08:08.900 allies whatever like we're ukraine you're in a war with ukraine we're sending all the money and
00:08:15.640 we support ukraine i mean the the government does from you know lindsey graham and and keep going
00:08:21.000 back to all the people that were in the pins and zelinski then you know nato and everybody he's
00:08:26.200 he's backed into a corner and let's not forget he is a nuclear power is he number two in the
00:08:31.800 was china's number two or is russia number two tom we're number one no no no number one russia's
00:08:37.780 number two okay so depending on what type of nuclear because some of their stuff is older
00:08:42.160 yes and they're saying it's not as strong as the ones that we have got you you're backing this
00:08:46.400 number two nuclear power guy into a corner pad and it's like it feels like if i had to be him
00:08:51.680 it's everybody against him except china and it's like this is not somebody like he's not i'm not
00:08:57.520 saying he's gonna launch a full-scale nuclear attack but there's only so much you never know
00:09:01.720 what somebody's gonna do that is in control of everything he makes all the decisions over here
00:09:06.220 we have the Senate, we have the House, we have all these
00:09:08.020 committees. Putin
00:09:09.960 owns Russia. He runs the
00:09:12.160 show. He doesn't have to look to like a
00:09:13.840 PXF or Ratcliffe
00:09:16.140 or somebody to try to get any decisions made.
00:09:18.380 He does it all. And there's only so
00:09:20.160 much that somebody's going to take. Tom, you nailed it.
00:09:22.220 He's what? He was ahead of the
00:09:24.080 freaking, he was not even ahead of the KGB. 0.66
00:09:26.120 He was in the KGB. That's where he started.
00:09:28.120 And this guy does not play games. And I think we're
00:09:29.820 poking a bear that
00:09:31.800 is not afraid to bite. People that go against
00:09:34.200 him in his own government get sprayed with that
00:09:36.040 cool nuclear cologne yeah yeah exactly and they die in hospitals they get poisoned exactly you
00:09:42.300 make a great point about he is the last capable and strong man in the world that's in full execution
00:09:49.240 mode right now yeah um there are others out there but he's the guy who's in full control
00:09:53.960 and he's and you you he cannot be forced to stop i just asked ai here just out of curiosity remember
00:10:00.160 how we asked AI about what's the likelihood that
00:10:02.120 AI could
00:10:03.660 by the next 10 years end
00:10:06.160 mankind and the percentage was what?
00:10:08.440 2-5% or 5-10%
00:10:10.060 something like that. I just said, what's the likelihood
00:10:12.300 that Putin within the next
00:10:14.160 30 days could use a
00:10:16.100 nuclear weapon against Ukraine?
00:10:18.540 You know what the number is? 1-3%.
00:10:20.440 That's still
00:10:21.540 3% of somebody
00:10:23.920 and mind you, people think nuclear weapon, they think
00:10:25.720 a big mushroom cloud and the world's over.
00:10:27.960 No, no.
00:10:28.560 You could do a tactical nuclear weapon that will destroy.
00:10:31.460 So you're saying there's a chance.
00:10:33.960 Yeah, exactly. 0.99
00:10:34.500 So by the way, in Ukraine, all it takes is one stupid little tactical nuke that they put somewhere, Pat, 0.99
00:10:40.480 and it gets ugly really, really fast. 0.99
00:10:43.000 We're messing with the guy that I don't think likes his attitude.
00:10:47.360 Maybe I'm just a big fan of Reagan.
00:10:49.060 I think Russia is the most dangerous country in the world, and it's not even close. 0.96
00:10:52.780 We understand the competitive nature that we have with China. 0.99
00:10:56.540 We're having those conversations about decoupling, but we're trade partners with them. 0.87
00:11:00.260 I think whatever the massive percentage, what is Russia doing for anybody other than themselves?
00:11:04.900 I think Putin is a warmonger who does not want peace.
00:11:08.760 And the only way to deal with these people is peace through strength.
00:11:11.680 So at this point, Zelensky, as much as we've given him a hard time and as much as we don't want to be funding this war,
00:11:19.440 I don't even think we've been giving them much money or weapons lately.
00:11:21.900 i think the eu has been basically and nato have been funding ukraine i think ukraine is fighting
00:11:27.520 valiantly i think they they have a bully um to their east who wants to take over more territory
00:11:35.160 you're already the biggest country in the world why do you want more territory it seems to me that 0.96
00:11:39.940 that that putin the the kgb thug just wants to control more territory more land and meanwhile 0.98
00:11:48.500 he has millions of his people dead answer this one question what has he accomplished in five years 0.84
00:11:55.080 tell me you know putin what's happened has he gained any land has he gained more power
00:12:02.700 has anything happened he just looks like a warmonger who basically just wants to basically
00:12:09.360 see things burn and unfortunately if that's your attitude all of a sudden ukraine with all the
00:12:14.820 money with all the investments with all the aid has basically said all right we're gonna develop 0.97
00:12:18.520 these drones and you know what we're gonna whoop your ass now and that's what's happening to russia 0.88
00:12:23.800 and in my opinion russia is getting what they deserve now i'm being simplistic in this in this 0.98
00:12:29.800 breakdown but to me what good is is russia other than their oil doing for the world now maybe i
00:12:36.300 have personal issues with with russians these days but to me russia is bizarro u.s whatever u.s
00:12:42.780 wants russia wants the opposite i'm just curious because right now you know uh is it more of who
00:12:49.760 trump can get more out of for u.s so is it the resources that ukraine has because ukraine's got
00:12:56.520 a lot is it the fact that the black rocks and all the bigger companies are sitting there saying hey
00:13:02.680 man we got a 400 billion dollar deal that we can go build ukraine and that's good business if this
00:13:08.200 war ever ends number three you know is zelinski is kind of sitting there saying man i kind of
00:13:13.340 want to finish this war because for whether it's re-election there's a couple new candidates that
00:13:17.820 are becoming a threat to him and he needs to open it up because guys like ilan and others probably
00:13:23.500 have a lot of resources that they can invest and deploy but they don't trust zelinski because
00:13:27.340 they're thinking he continuously wants to extend the war who knows trump said hey whatever you do
00:13:31.400 ukraine don't hit the diesel don't hit the oil refinery leave those alone but zelinski's not
00:13:36.460 listening so this week with them coming in town these these meetings are going to be interesting
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