"Quiet Piggy" - Trump DESTROYS Reporter After Epstein Files Bill PASSES
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Summary
In the wake of the release of the Epstein files, many are asking why Congress voted against releasing them. The question is, why did they not just release them? And what will happen now that they have been released?
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They voted for it, and it ended up being, what, 427 to 1 on releasing the Epstein files.
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We begin with Congress approving a bill to force the release of the government's files
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related to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
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CBS News reporter Erica Brown joins us now from Capitol Hill.
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Erica, can you explain what happened in the Senate?
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Yeah, Lindsey, just a short time ago, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer took to the
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Senate floor to get unanimous consent that would deem this bill automatically passed.
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I thought it's like a little bit different breakdown.
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So it's Senate and House, Rob, right, that both said they're passing it.
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And then as we're going through this, the only guy that didn't, Rob, if you can pull him up,
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Clay Higgins, he's the only person that didn't do it, representative, Republican representative,
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And if you don't mind going to his Twitter account for us to just let him give his argument
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On Twitter, he explains, this is why I voted no.
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And I've been a principled no on this bill from the beginning.
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What was wrong with the bill three months ago is still wrong today.
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It abandons 250 years of criminal justice procedure in America.
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As written, this bill reveals and injures thousands of innocent people, witnesses, people who provided
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If enacted in this current form, this type of broad reveal of criminal investigation files
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released to a rabid media will absolutely result in innocent people being hurt.
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Go a little bit low, Rob, to see what it says because there's a community notes.
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The bill includes redactions from victims and uninvolved individuals.
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Massey explained victims can't release names due to lawsuits forcing them into homelessness.
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So maybe there's a little bit of contradiction there.
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Tom, your thoughts with what was released yesterday.
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Or is this just another one of those, you know, they're going to release it just to say
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Well, always be concerned if your government does something unanimously because it's technically
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a mathematical and a statistical, you know, not impossibility, but it's highly improbable.
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Like if they're voting on raises for themselves, all of a sudden you say, hey, Senate and Senate,
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You know, you take all the congressmen, all the Senate, boom, done.
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So what has happened here is they're all voting to release it, but there's two asterisks in it.
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The Attorney General, Pam Bondi, can elect to redact it, I think, for matters of national
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security, A, or B, if it would interfere with an ongoing investigation.
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I think those were the two exceptions, which means that Pam Bondi can swing by the CIA and
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get all those groovy black highlighters out and go through the whole thing and basically
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have the same situation as they had when they handed those binders to the social media people
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and they walked out with the binders that said Epstein files.
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But that had a bunch of stuff that was already released.
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But that didn't go through House and that didn't go through Senate.
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That was just more like a marketing stunt that they did.
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But now the government's saying they put this out.
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It's going to end up being a marketing stunt again because Bondi's going to go over there.
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That's the logic I'm building right back to that driveway at the White House.
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She's going to redact a bunch of stuff which will allow the Democrats to say,
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you're still not showing us everything that's in the files.
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And then the Republicans can say, no, we released the files, but we had to protect names.
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And the political theater goes on and on and on.
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So you don't – Brent, are you in a different position here?
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I'm so – unfortunately, I'm so burnt out by this one because we've been kind of let down
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Like, I'm never going to expect to get a satisfying answer with this in terms of, like, learning
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And like they said, there's no way that 427 people would vote in favor of it if it's going
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to do anything damaging to powerful people in a big way.
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We've had a lot of different theories why we believe they haven't released it yet.
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Why some of the information – well, you know what?
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It's because there's so many Democrats that are on there.
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No, it's because so many donors that gave money to Trump are on there.
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Oh, my God, Elon Musk, when he tweeted that, there was a big falling out.
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No, it's because of maybe Trump's relationship with Epstein.
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Why do you think all the information is not being released?
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I think a lot of it has to do – I mean, why is it that this is such a mainstream topic
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I mean, like you said, this is the number one news story.
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Because people believe that there is a two-tier structure, at least two tiers in this country.
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And that the elite people have their own set of rules and benefits.
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And therefore, the rules don't really apply to you.
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And so I think that's why everybody is really taken to the story.
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And you get into the idea of the establishment versus regular folks, the uniparty.
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What I'm trying to ask you is, you're a smart guy.
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What are you speculating is the reason why both parties have held back from releasing it?
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There's this idea that, you know, American public is a bunch of stupid idiots who don't know anything.
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But you look at time – survey after survey for something like consumer confidence on the economy.
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Americans know better about the economy than every economist that has ever lived.
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In a big data sort of way, in a big crowd sort of way, American people have –
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They have an idea of what's really going on here.
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And the reason why this story won't go away is because people sense – and every time something happens –
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So what's more likely to happen, it going away or the truth coming out?
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Oh, you think it's going to go away eventually?
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There's too much incentive to just continue to dangle the carrot as much as necessary.
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And then just – like the sleight-of-hand magician.
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What I do like about it is that we're learning a few new things where, you know, Hakeem Jeffries, you saw that email that reached out to Epstein to want to ask him for money.
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And then when he did, he says he'd like to set up a meeting with Obama.
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And then here – I don't know if you have the clip, Rob – with Rochanna's being asked about it.
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Comment on Hakeem Jeffries' campaign soliciting money from Jeffrey Epstein himself back in 2013.
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It's the first time hearing about it, obviously.
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But obviously anyone who took money from him should return the money or didn't donate the money.
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I have to look at what you're saying is the first time hearing about it.
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But don't you see that as mutually assured destruction?
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You want to take out Trumpers, one of the Republicans, we got the dirt on you too.
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Let's get together, hold hands, and bury this thing and just move on with our lives.
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Yesterday, a reporter was asking a president about Epstein.
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And I've never seen him use this phrase before.
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I watched it multiple times because I'm not going to lie to you.
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And I had to verify it because – go ahead, Rob.
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So he dictated a couple of members to him, something we bring.
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You've got to find out what did he know with respect to Bill Clinton, with respect to the head of Harvard,
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with respect to all of those people that he knew including J.P. Morgan.
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Yeah, but it's also the smile in his face, right?
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I think a lot of people, just regular folks, would say, I'd love to be able to do that to some of these reporters.
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Because you know why so many people let the troller in chief?
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Because sometimes he's the troller in the chief, and that's exactly what I voted for.
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You know, I voted for a guy that's going to get in the face of the media.
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Her instant reaction is she couldn't stop laughing.
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The fact that a president told a reporter, quiet piggy.
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What's worse, I'd rather be told that than be called a piggy.
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And they're all searching for how that it's racial or sexually.
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According to reports, this is the reporter that the president called piggy.
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