00:00:00.080So on June 23rd, many of us probably got alerted on our phones that John McAfee, the man I'm
00:00:04.000sitting with right here at his place in 2018, in Tennessee, had committed suicide. Allegedly
00:00:09.280committed suicide. This is the 2016 Libertarian presidential candidate. This is the wanted
00:00:14.200fugitive. This is the founder of McAfee antivirus that he sold for $100 million. His network
00:00:19.120was $100 million. Years later, it was sold for $7.7 billion. Playboy, crazy videos, flamboyant,
00:00:27.040strange documentary about him, committed suicide. One side said there's no way in the world
00:00:31.580this guy committed suicide because he talked about it on Twitter. The other side said he
00:00:34.860absolutely committed suicide because he owed so much money to tax evasion, so many different
00:00:40.060challenges he was facing, there's no way in the world he was going to face it. Now, I
00:00:43.140want to give you my perspective. Many of you sent me tweets. The interview I did with them
00:00:46.880three years ago, this one right here, has picked up in the last week for obvious reasons. I'm
00:00:51.040going to give you my experience with how I was sitting down with John McAfee. So this interview
00:00:56.040is at his house. I'm in Tennessee. I'm meeting with the economist Arthur Laffer. While I'm
00:01:03.040there, Mario gets a phone call from his team saying, if you want to sit down with John McAfee,
00:01:09.520this is the address. You need to be here in two hours. We get the address. It says 125 miles
00:01:14.960away. We get in the car. We head over to his place. When we get to his place, I sit in the
00:01:21.040car. Mario and our shooter at the time, Luis, get out of the car. They go inside. They're
00:01:25.380being frisked the entire time. I mean, pretty intense, highly skeptical, paranoid environment.
00:01:32.040AK-47s everywhere. Semi-automatic weapons everywhere. Led by former Marines, former Navy SEALs, former
00:01:40.040Rangers, who are there. Mario calls me while they're setting up. These guys are watching who
00:01:44.040they are. Mario says, Pat, please come inside. It's a very uncomfortable place. No problem.
00:01:49.040I get out of the car. I hang up with Tom. I was on the phone with Tom. I get inside and
00:01:54.040they start saying, who are you? I said, I'm Patrick Bay David. Are you with the FBI? I'm
00:01:59.040not. Are you with any organizations out there? I am not. How can we believe you? I said, tell
00:02:04.040them about your background. We're not going to tell you about your background. I said, listen,
00:02:07.040I used to be in the military. Were you really? What was your MOS? I was a 63 Bravo. Where
00:02:12.040were you stationed at? I went boot camp at South Carolina, Fort Jackson. I went AIT at
00:02:16.040Fort Jackson, South Carolina. I was at the 101st Airborne Division down the street from
00:02:20.040me, two hours away from me, Fort Campbell, Kentucky. I went to this club. What clubs did
00:02:24.040you go to in Nashville, Tennessee? Silverados, you know, all these things I told them. Mixed
00:02:28.040Factory. Okay, man, it's okay. Come on in. Do you want to have a drink with us? Hey, what's
00:02:32.040up? I'm like, do I want to have a drink? Yeah, come on in. They're carrying the AK-47. By the
00:02:36.040way, if you want, there's five prostitutes upstairs. If you want to go before you start
00:02:41.040the meeting, you want to have a good time, you can go upstairs and come down and do your
00:02:44.040interview. I said, listen, I appreciate the offer. Thank you for your hospitality. Maybe
00:02:47.040ask the guys out there, but I'm totally fine. No problem. If you still want, you can go
00:02:51.040upstairs. I'm like, I'm going to be okay. I'll be fine. Anyways, we do the interview. He
00:02:56.040comes in. John's coming in. When he comes in, you hear the sound. Garage is coming up.
00:03:00.040Like something very, very loud. He comes in. We sit down, we do the interview. If you
00:03:05.040watch this here, this is John. Next to me, he was having a drink. He was smoking cigarettes
00:03:09.040while we're doing the interview. That's a gun right there. And here's what happens.
00:03:14.04043 minutes into the interview, someone knocks on the door. This has never happened in my
00:03:17.040life when I interview people. Watch what happens right here. This is pretty random.
00:03:21.04050 different options. Even direct flights from Hong Kong to Ecuador. Why the heck
00:03:26.040somebody knocks on the door through Russia. The guy comes out, takes out the gun. So,
00:03:33.040so I, you know, it's hard for me to say, is it good? Is it bad? I don't have all the facts
00:03:42.040and neither do you. And neither goes back. So now, I'm listening to him talk while I'm
00:03:47.040looking, seeing what's going to be happening to my right, seeing another guy run up. All
00:03:52.040these sounds you're hearing behind you. Obviously, this was a very highly skeptical,
00:03:58.040paranoid, semi-schizo, which he even himself said, some people say I'm extremely paranoid.
00:04:03.040I am extremely paranoid. He said in many different interviews. And then when we left, very nice,
00:04:09.040very amicable. We took off. We did our thing. The interview went live. And now, it's got
00:04:14.040many views and a lot of people are commenting on it.
00:04:16.040Look, before I get into John's tweets, which a couple of them are quite controversial, let
00:04:19.040me kind of give you an idea how he got here. Number one, he's in Belize, living in Belize
00:04:22.040at one point. And he has a dog that's barking really loud. The neighbor gets upset and says,
00:04:26.040listen, you've got to kind of tell your dog to be quiet. John's like, he can do whatever
00:04:29.040he wants to do. The neighbor gets upset, takes a piece of beef, throws it over, poisons
00:04:34.040the beef. The dog eats it, dies. John comes home, sees the dog, loses his mind, hires
00:04:39.040somebody, comes and kills the neighbor. The neighbor's found in a pool full of blood.
00:04:43.040John escapes. Not much happens there. Tax evasion issues that he has. Tennessee owed
00:04:49.040$4 million of taxes they say he avoided because he said in 2018 or 2019, I haven't paid taxes
00:04:54.040for eight years because of ideological differences with the IRS. I shouldn't have to pay taxes.
00:04:59.040And then he had a crypto pump and dump issue that took place. Anyways, it's a very interesting
00:05:04.040character we're talking about here. This is not a normal human being in the normal life that
00:05:08.040he lived. This is a story from the son, just kind of showing you who he was. This is himself
00:05:12.040with the guns. He liked guns. He liked prostitutes. He likes drugs. He liked partying hardcore.
00:05:17.040This is a video he did, which is a very, very strange video on YouTube. It's got like 10
00:05:21.040million views nearly. Anyways, he liked women. He partied hardcore. If this guy was 35 years
00:05:26.040old today, he'd be one of those guys with 20, 30 million followers. You can pretty much see
00:05:30.040what's going on here. This is him talking about the fact that the government tried to poison him
00:05:34.040and kill him. I'm more difficult to kill than anyone else can even possibly imagine. Anyways,
00:05:39.040all of this stuff leads to his tweets. This is one of his tweets that just came out that
00:05:42.040people are talking about there's no way he would have killed himself. Getting subtle messages.
00:05:47.040This tweet is from November 30, 2019. Getting subtle messages from the US official saying,
00:05:51.040in effect, we're coming for you, Mike McAfee. We're going to kill yourself, meaning we're going
00:05:55.040to kill you, but it's going to... you killing yourself? It's not suicide, but we're going to kill you.
00:05:59.040We're going to kill you. I got a tattoo today just in case. If I suicide myself, I didn't.
00:06:04.040I was whacked. Check my right arm. Whacked.
00:06:07.040Here's another tweet, because in October of last year, 2020, while he's in Barcelona,
00:06:12.040on his way to Istanbul, he gets arrested in Spain. They take him to jail. Right afterwards,
00:06:17.040he sends this ass, and I'm content in here, jail. I have friends. The food is good. All is well.
00:06:21.040Now that if I hang myself, a la Epstein, it will be no fault of mine.
00:06:27.040Okay? Then he has this tweet that comes out and resurfaces from June 9, 2019.
00:06:32.040I've collected files on corruption in government. For the first time, I'm naming names and specifics.
00:06:37.040I'll begin with a corrupt CIA agent and two Bahamian officials coming today if I'm arrested or disappear.
00:06:43.04031 terabytes of incriminating data will be released to the press.
00:06:46.040Now, when you look at this, you have two sides to look at. Let's say he is right. He has those 31 terabytes.
00:06:52.040A lot of data on government officials. That could be pretty ugly, especially with campaign, election,
00:06:56.040all of that stuff that you've got going on. Nobody wants that to be seen.
00:06:59.040But the other part of it is also he's bluffing. What is bluff? There's an old fable about a psychic
00:07:05.040who hooks up with a king's daughter. The king loses his mind, sends all the soldiers to go kill the psychic.
00:07:12.040When the soldiers go to the psychic and they say, we're here to kill you, the psychic says,
00:07:17.040before you kill me, I had a vision last night that has to do with the king and it has to do with his life.
00:07:22.040I have to tell him this or else he's going to die. They're like, what are you talking about?
00:07:26.040The soldier's talking and they say, let's at least tell the king and see what the king wants to do.
00:07:29.040They tell the king, the king's like, I want to meet this guy. The psychic comes to the king.
00:07:32.040He says, king, I have to tell you, I apologize for getting together with your daughter.
00:07:36.040She's beautiful. However, the vision I had yesterday is that you, king, are going to die a day after I die.
00:07:46.040Which means what? If you kill me, you're dying tomorrow.
00:07:49.040So the king's like, you know, back in the days, it was all like, psychics know what they were talking about.
00:07:52.040And people were very superstitious. The king's like, listen, we better take care of this man.
00:07:56.040He brings a psychic in. He lives in the palace. Obviously, it's a fable, but you get the idea.
00:08:00.040Is John playing that game? Hey, leave me alone. Don't bother me. Don't touch me with my taxes because I have stuff on you because I'm such a good hacker.
00:08:09.040Is he doing that? No one will know what card he's playing here. He may or may not have it.
00:08:14.040But this led to a story after John passed away, allegedly suicide. And this is what the story went viral.
00:08:21.040There's a tweet that they're showing and claiming that he tweeted out, says, if anything ever happens to me, please know that the 31 terabytes of files I have are located on hard drives in my condo near 88th Street and Collins Avenue, just north of Miami Beach, which is the building that just came down.
00:08:41.040And there's nine people dead and 150-something people missing. The conspiracy theorists ran with this, saying, oh, my gosh, it's government's job. It came down. They got the files.
00:08:53.040Now, nobody can get their hands on the 31 terabytes. This was so viral with people being curious about it that AP did a story saying that never happened.
00:09:02.040He never owned the condo. And there's no tweet as such of him sending it out on June 8th.
00:09:08.040So I go and take a look at his Twitter account. And if you go look at his Twitter account, you go to June 8th, there is no such thing as these tweets.
00:09:14.040The only things you'll find on June 8th is one he's talking about a million followers and no one's really bothering to look at it.
00:09:19.040And another one about Bezos. There's nothing else on June 8th.
00:09:22.040Now, the conspiracy folks will say, well, Twitter can't delete it. I highly doubt they did that.
00:09:26.040So AP depunks that and they don't touch it. It goes to a completely different place.
00:09:30.040Anyway, this goes to a bunch of different places. You know, all these other things.
00:09:33.040And then Janice McAfee, his wife, sends out a tweet talking about on Father's Day, June 20th, the fact that they don't want to do anything with this guy.
00:09:41.040The government is so corrupt. The U.S. authorities are determined to have John die in prison to make an example of him for speaking out against the corruption within the government agencies.
00:09:49.040The media continues to vilify him per their narrative and there's no hope for him ever having a fair trial in America because there's no longer any justice in America.
00:09:56.040You either play ball or get effed. Those are literally the only options.
00:10:01.040Now, before you were innocent until proven guilty, now somehow it's changed to guilty until proven innocent.
00:10:06.040Interesting point. Now anyone can level the most hideous accusations against you without any proof and having no basis in reality.
00:10:15.040But in the court of public opinion, you are tried, convicted, found guilty and your life irreparably destroyed all before having your day in court.
00:10:27.040Anyway, so she goes and talks about this and there's a bunch of other things that she talks about in the video.
00:10:30.040He would never commit suicide. He would never do this. He would never do that.
00:10:32.040A lot of this comes to me where people are like, well, did he commit suicide? He would never commit suicide.
00:10:37.040Chris Hitchens, who was a famous atheist, everybody, the many Christian pastors would say that rumor has it that on his deathbed, he accepted Jesus Christ as a savior, right?
00:10:46.040And he's going to go to heaven because even an atheist eventually accepted it.
00:10:50.040And it was a very good story to use. It was viral because people were using that as a way to baptize folks, right?
00:10:55.040I heard a lot of different churches, but his son who was there apparently on his deathbed said, my dad and I never talked about religion and that never happened.
00:11:02.040And Chris Hitchens even said, way before he passed away, if you ever hear a story that I accepted Christ as my savior or my deathbed because I was so scared about what's going to happen after life, do not believe it.
00:11:32.040Even the interview, if you've not watched the interview of him and I, some of the stuff he says, I mean, you're just going to sit there and say, what's he talking?
00:11:39.040It's very deep and he doesn't hold back about going after the government.
00:11:43.040Look, last week I did an interview with a mayor you may know.
00:11:49.040Mayor Giuliani was an attorney that you may know.
00:11:52.040Rudy Giuliani, who in 2015 won the G-Man Award by FBI as one of the best men for America.
00:12:00.040FBI awarded him the G-Man Award in 2015.
00:12:08.040And he said some stuff that I still don't know if I'm going to go live with or not.
00:12:13.040You know, I had a group of people that I had a call with yesterday, and they know about what was in the content of the interview, telling me, Pat, don't go live with it today.
00:12:21.040Because this is just not a good time to go against the government.
00:12:26.040Look what's going on right now with censorship.
00:12:49.040The channel was suspended of uploading any new videos.
00:12:52.040So there is an element of people being concerned about not really sharing everything today because social media companies out there can really push back.