Valuetainment - October 22, 2025


＂Really Dangerous Mess＂ - Epstein’s E-mail SHAKEDOWN Answers Leon Black's $170M Mystery Payday


Episode Stats

Length

21 minutes

Words per Minute

202.22556

Word Count

4,410

Sentence Count

484

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

Jeffrey Epstein is a billionaire, a philanthropist, an author, a lawyer, a playboy, and a sex worker. But is he also a serial sex offender, a criminal, a fraud, a liar, a racketeer, a pimp, a hater, a leaker, and an enigma, Jeffrey Epstein has been in the news this week because of a new report from the New York Times about his affair with a woman named Leon Black.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So based on that letter back and forth, on other occasions, Epstein appears to have emphasized that he didn't feel the financial dealings with Black to be the sum of their relationship.
00:00:07.680 Of course, re-ending financial issues, I'm always there for you and will continue to be the best friend I can be, he reportedly put it.
00:00:13.400 The Times report suggests that Epstein introduced Leon Black to a number of young women over the years, some of whom would later accuse Black of sexual abuse.
00:00:21.800 Citing court documents and notes taken by congressional investigators, the newspaper identifies one of those women as Cherry Pearson,
00:00:28.460 whom Epstein had at one time paid for massage services.
00:00:31.280 Can you go to Cherry Pearson, C-H-E-R-I, Pearson is P-I-E-R, you got it right there, Epstein.
00:00:39.740 That's Cherry Pearson.
00:00:43.340 Go back on where you were at, Rob, and go to the first story in New York Times from two days ago.
00:00:49.640 You've been blocked, Rob.
00:00:50.900 New York Times doesn't like you.
00:00:52.060 You're a robot.
00:00:52.680 On another occasion, Epstein is understood to have advised Black on payments of $10 million to another woman.
00:00:56.960 Wow, advised him to pay $10 million to another woman.
00:01:00.180 Guzi Giannivera, after she accused Black of sexual assault, Black had reportedly acknowledged having an extramarital affair with her, but denied assaulting her.
00:01:10.700 Congressional investigators had apparently also raised concerns on millions of dollars paid by Black to at least eight women who were later listed amongst Epstein's associates and victims.
00:01:19.460 Okay, so then there's a connection here because Black has apparently declined to comment on the reasons for those payments.
00:01:26.620 Epstein's case has returned to center stage since the back of the Justice Department of P. 300 in 2019.
00:01:32.160 Those findings flew in particular.
00:01:33.920 Yeah, this is not good with Leon Black because if there's eight other girls that Leon Black had to pay off and they're the same eight girls tied to Epstein,
00:01:44.420 You already know where this $158 million is.
00:01:46.800 I mean, it's no longer a question.
00:01:48.160 Yes.
00:01:48.640 What happened there?
00:01:49.160 Rob, is this the letter he wrote to him?
00:01:50.820 Yes, this was in Jeffrey Epstein's 50th birthday book.
00:01:53.620 This is the letter that Leon Black allegedly wrote to him.
00:01:56.760 A VFPC.
00:01:57.780 Do we know what that is?
00:01:59.040 A very fine, very fine VFPC is something to be.
00:02:03.360 Vanity Fair poster child.
00:02:05.000 It's something to see a liver, a lover, a Jeff, a Jeffrey.
00:02:08.760 Let's all give a cheer for today.
00:02:10.820 He's 50.
00:02:12.140 Five decades or half a century by birds and by bucks.
00:02:17.240 C's and M's are his key.
00:02:19.040 Blonde, red brunette spread out geographically.
00:02:22.040 Wow.
00:02:22.480 With his net of fish, Jeff's now the old man and the sea.
00:02:25.680 Hemingway reference.
00:02:26.660 Teaching math, trading options or foreign currency, green eye shades, schemes and plans,
00:02:34.000 a unique tax strategy, wet dream and caviar.
00:02:38.680 No, chival.
00:02:39.400 Tax strategy.
00:02:40.520 Chival and architects.
00:02:41.180 I don't know what that word is.
00:02:43.240 Chef, I didn't even, yeah.
00:02:44.100 An architect, wild spree, Moscow, Paris, Santa Fe.
00:02:48.320 Santa Fe.
00:02:49.840 Their other ranch.
00:02:50.900 Alhambra, East Jamboree.
00:02:52.840 Go to the other side.
00:02:53.740 Let her wrap, bro.
00:02:54.340 Let's finish this.
00:02:55.000 So this is Leon Black to him.
00:02:57.160 Max Willian, delight.
00:02:58.920 A mother's treasure.
00:02:59.980 Great joy.
00:03:01.320 Most surely Harvardian patron.
00:03:03.720 Brain researcher for extending wannabe, outrageous, iconoclastic, unconventional, spirit-free.
00:03:12.260 Best of all, a dear friend.
00:03:13.440 Happy birthday, dear friend.
00:03:13.980 How many codes and how much crap is in there?
00:03:16.060 Well, you guys, that's between them and it's like weird.
00:03:18.640 And this word right here, I believe it's culture-mar.
00:03:22.920 It's another term for nightmare.
00:03:25.240 Culture-mar.
00:03:25.720 So, wet dreams and nightmares.
00:03:27.980 Weird.
00:03:29.000 Yeah.
00:03:29.520 Yikes.
00:03:30.900 All right.
00:03:31.260 What a great love letter.
00:03:32.240 I mean, the day you have it.
00:03:33.180 He said love and kisses.
00:03:35.460 Vanity Fair poster child.
00:03:38.200 Vanity Fair poster child.
00:03:41.060 Interesting.
00:03:41.660 So this is Leon Black's letter to Jeffrey Epstein on his 50th birthday.
00:03:46.600 Here's my question.
00:03:47.240 They made a birthday book and everybody put creative letters.
00:03:49.760 Yeah, that's very good.
00:03:51.660 Here's my question.
00:03:53.060 Vinny's done a lot more research on the Virginia Gouffray.
00:03:56.160 Leon Black, for example.
00:03:58.160 So, it seems like a shakedown.
00:04:01.700 And I'll tell you why.
00:04:02.640 In this letter, he says, we're going to have a really dangerous mess.
00:04:07.800 I find it very distasteful that you have not paid me the terms of my money.
00:04:12.040 So, let me be clear.
00:04:12.600 My terms are as follows.
00:04:13.960 I will only work for the usual $40 million a year.
00:04:17.540 Jeez.
00:04:17.900 Okay.
00:04:18.580 Anyone who's ever invested money or has some AUM assets under management,
00:04:23.380 does wealth planning, estate planning, legacy planning,
00:04:25.920 philanthropic planning, tax advisory, whatever it is,
00:04:29.300 it's usually a percentage of the money you're managing.
00:04:33.460 In any capacity, has your Goldman Sachs person, I deal with Fidelity or Vanguard,
00:04:38.760 Tom, I'm sure you have money manager, have they ever said, pay me my freaking money or else,
00:04:44.360 and it's $40 million or it's $4 million or we're going to have a big, big problem.
00:04:50.060 Had they ever said that?
00:04:51.460 Because if someone ever said that that was handling your money, you'd say, thank you.
00:04:55.600 I'm going to go look elsewhere.
00:04:57.420 The fact that Leon Black just was like, okay, my bad, my stupid, retarded children, I'll deal with them.
00:05:02.840 And then allegedly ponied up the money shows me at the very least there's something going on here below the surface.
00:05:09.400 We know that, Adam, J.P. Morgan settled.
00:05:12.440 If we're going big and money, they settled the case for $75 million in 2023
00:05:17.000 and then another $290 million to settle with Epstein's victims.
00:05:21.120 And by the way, the J.P. Morgan position was, we don't want to talk about it anymore.
00:05:25.780 This guy's gone.
00:05:26.980 He's no longer our client.
00:05:28.420 Tell you what, we'll settle for this.
00:05:30.200 Everybody shut up.
00:05:31.040 Which goes to my point, essentially, everyone thinks that it's this big sex trafficking ring
00:05:36.120 and this sort of prostitution ring and this underage thing.
00:05:39.580 I think that's obviously a component.
00:05:41.500 There's no doubt about that.
00:05:42.300 A big component.
00:05:42.840 To me, the bigger component is the money.
00:05:46.040 When you're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars and billions of dollars,
00:05:50.220 follow the money.
00:05:51.340 I get that everybody is obsessed with the kids and the sexual deviancy.
00:05:55.320 I get it.
00:05:55.940 But to me, this island was sort of like a hand-washing, hand-wringing, money movement thing.
00:06:02.380 And then that was sort of like a feature at the island.
00:06:05.680 But how do you make sure, Adam, with those hundreds of millions of dollars that the person pays up?
00:06:09.900 That, to me, sounds like, hey, listen.
00:06:12.200 It was a component.
00:06:13.200 Yeah, don't F around.
00:06:13.940 But it's all about the money.
00:06:14.820 Because guess what?
00:06:15.680 I have a freaking hard drive that has all you people on it.
00:06:19.460 By the way, you think that, you know that room that you were in with the girl
00:06:22.480 that was a secret room that I told you to go into?
00:06:24.340 There was three cameras in there.
00:06:26.240 By the way, open your email.
00:06:27.400 I'm sending you footage in an encrypted account.
00:06:29.520 No, bro.
00:06:30.200 I'm telling you right now, to have that type of leverage and that type of power, Adam,
00:06:33.420 those little kids, and I know, I'm not saying you're brushing it off.
00:06:36.040 I know that you're saying it's a component.
00:06:37.620 That's the main component, bro.
00:06:39.800 Blackmail, that's how you make, that's how you talk.
00:06:42.180 Adam, you know how you talk to a billionaire when you're not a billionaire?
00:06:45.360 When you have leverage on them like that.
00:06:47.140 Do this, $5 million every two months.
00:06:49.440 He even says, i.e., March, May, June.
00:06:51.800 Pay up.
00:06:52.240 The Walter Cronkite thing is actually an example of what I'm talking about here.
00:06:56.460 In my opinion, I could be wrong, I don't think 90-year-old Walter Cronkite is getting on a
00:07:01.400 flight to be like, what?
00:07:02.740 There's young chicks there?
00:07:04.060 I'm on my way, bro.
00:07:05.000 Honey, to me, it's the money, it's the philanthropy, it's whatever the big business is, and they're
00:07:11.880 using these things as sort of like, or treats, kids, whatever.
00:07:17.060 Or you're ready for this, hey, Walter, you're going to die in six months, I got some young
00:07:20.940 girl for you.
00:07:21.660 That could be another one.
00:07:22.580 I don't think that's how a 90-year-old guy thinks so, bro.
00:07:24.440 Adam, demons like that, that's how they live.
00:07:27.100 Now, Walter Cronkite is a demon now?
00:07:28.480 No, I'm just saying, people that are disgusting and like sleeping with underage girls, like all
00:07:32.640 this allegedly stuff that's coming up.
00:07:34.020 But there's no evidence that the great Walter Cronkite was ever involved in any of this.
00:07:36.720 Let me ask a simple question.
00:07:38.160 By the way, can you ask, Rob, can you ask a question of this on the poll?
00:07:42.500 And it's a very straight up question.
00:07:44.480 I don't want you to answer it.
00:07:45.680 I'm not.
00:07:46.100 Let's wait one minute to see how the poll answers, okay?
00:07:48.840 Okay.
00:07:49.420 Gang, Rob, the question is, what percentage of people that went to the Epstein Island do
00:07:59.280 you believe had sex with an underage girl?
00:08:01.640 Great question.
00:08:02.640 Okay.
00:08:03.000 What percentage?
00:08:04.480 So put it, Rob, if you could, what range should we make it?
00:08:08.260 Let's make the range.
00:08:09.700 Put one category, 50% plus.
00:08:13.440 Put another category, 25% to 49%.
00:08:16.460 Put another category, 10% to 24%.
00:08:20.000 And then the other category, 0% to 9%.
00:08:23.160 Put those four categories if you can, okay?
00:08:25.920 I want you to think about the answer, Tom.
00:08:28.120 Is it 50% plus, 25% to 49%, 10% to 24% or less than 9%?
00:08:36.460 That if you went there, you did this.
00:08:38.340 Give a minute, Rob, if you posted the poll already.
00:08:40.380 Let's kind of see if people are already voting.
00:08:42.320 I don't know if you already have it up or not.
00:08:44.000 I do.
00:08:44.140 If you already do.
00:08:45.260 Let's see how this vote is doing, okay?
00:08:47.500 I'm actually curious.
00:08:49.600 Oh, wow.
00:08:50.800 Okay, don't look, don't look, don't look, don't look, don't look.
00:08:52.520 Adam, don't look up, don't look up, don't look up.
00:08:53.980 I'm not looking at all.
00:08:54.700 What's your number?
00:08:55.820 For the 50 plus of?
00:08:57.620 Do you think, do you think, is it, you have four options to vote for.
00:09:01.860 Yes.
00:09:02.660 50% plus who went there has.
00:09:05.200 You're at 80%?
00:09:05.960 80% of that one.
00:09:07.640 Like, meaning, I think.
00:09:08.440 No, no, but just think about it this way.
00:09:09.880 Do you believe 50% plus?
00:09:12.640 Yes.
00:09:13.340 So that's where you are.
00:09:14.380 Yes.
00:09:14.680 Tom, where are you at?
00:09:17.060 You put 9%.
00:09:18.360 So you put less.
00:09:20.320 So one out of 10 did.
00:09:22.060 Yeah.
00:09:22.240 So some of them just went by less.
00:09:23.520 The heavy hitters that he needed to then lever the whole machine.
00:09:26.780 Where are you at?
00:09:27.620 Yeah, I'm closer to Tom's number than Vinny's number all day.
00:09:30.060 Can we see what it shows, Ron?
00:09:31.320 Less than 20%.
00:09:32.020 What did people show?
00:09:34.180 64% said 50 plus percent.
00:09:36.400 You guys on the 4%.
00:09:37.600 You guys on the 4%.
00:09:38.520 That's not a problem.
00:09:39.980 Wow.
00:09:40.360 It's 3,000 people voted.
00:09:42.200 I don't know, Vinny.
00:09:43.540 I don't know if, because to be 50%.
00:09:47.720 That's crazy.
00:09:49.620 Okay, so say you're doing the event, right?
00:09:52.800 In sales, nobody has 100% closing ratio.
00:09:57.060 Do you know what I mean by that?
00:09:58.980 Like, there's nobody that closes.
00:10:00.700 The best sales guys I know, they're 50%, and that's high, right?
00:10:06.300 So which means is you originally invite guys over, okay?
00:10:12.620 They come in, and then you convert them.
00:10:14.980 So there's different categories of this.
00:10:16.800 Guys who come in, then you tell a girl to go flirt with that guy.
00:10:21.760 Then they go to a room.
00:10:22.860 The guy thinks she's 18.
00:10:24.500 The guy has sex with her.
00:10:26.420 Then he comes back and says, by the way, you just had sex with a 16-year-old.
00:10:29.300 You need to give me $10 million.
00:10:30.320 That's option one.
00:10:31.020 Option two is, guy comes in the first time, didn't know.
00:10:37.140 He knows you're successful, and he's coming in because he wants to network with people.
00:10:41.660 Then it was offered.
00:10:43.080 Then he's like, I'll never come back again.
00:10:44.580 I'm out.
00:10:45.120 I made a mistake coming to the island.
00:10:46.440 You're with me so far for the two options.
00:10:48.660 Yep.
00:10:49.740 Then number three is, you went to the island.
00:10:53.560 You know what happened.
00:10:55.040 You told your friends.
00:10:56.440 Your friends went.
00:10:57.620 Your friends know what's going to be happening on that island.
00:10:59.620 I don't know if that one made sense or not.
00:11:01.300 Of course.
00:11:01.580 What else would you add aside from those three, Rob?
00:11:04.220 Did you see what I just said?
00:11:05.100 I just said three of them.
00:11:06.380 The first one you're going, you didn't know was underage.
00:11:08.740 You went in.
00:11:09.160 He's like, hey, guess what?
00:11:10.720 She's hot.
00:11:11.120 She wants you.
00:11:11.620 She's 16.
00:11:12.200 Whoops.
00:11:13.040 Now you owe me $50 million.
00:11:15.080 Number two is, you went.
00:11:17.880 You saw what was going on.
00:11:18.980 You turned it down.
00:11:19.660 You left.
00:11:20.220 I'll never want to be back here again.
00:11:22.220 Then number three is, friends are bringing friends.
00:11:24.140 They already know what's going to be happening.
00:11:25.240 The number two option, you're already on the island.
00:11:28.460 So he's like, you're already kind of screwed because you're here.
00:11:31.120 But you could be.
00:11:32.200 Listen, man, I was in a car with a lot of drugs and stuff.
00:11:37.180 And the moment I find that, I'm like, dude, I'm getting the hell out of here.
00:11:39.940 I was a young kid.
00:11:41.280 I've been in places where I was a fight breaks out.
00:11:44.240 Everybody had guns and stuff.
00:11:45.480 And then I'm 14, 15 years old.
00:11:46.800 I'm like, dude, I made a mistake being here.
00:11:48.020 I'm not ever going to be in this guy like again.
00:11:50.240 You understand what I'm saying?
00:11:51.260 You've been in those situations.
00:11:52.260 We've all been in those types of situations.
00:11:54.240 All I'm saying is, I'd be curious to know what the percentage is of people that went in who were B-backs, who brought friends.
00:12:04.380 That were already compromised?
00:12:05.940 Were they compromised?
00:12:06.420 If I was in charge of this investigation, if they put me on there, I would get the Excel spreadsheet and I would bring a couple of business analysts with me.
00:12:15.020 And I would say, here's what I want you to do.
00:12:16.680 Make a list of all the B-backs.
00:12:18.340 Here's the B-backs.
00:12:19.180 If you came back the second time around, you're in the 99% category for me because you're a B-back.
00:12:25.540 You know what a B-back is.
00:12:26.900 You went.
00:12:27.740 You know what's going on.
00:12:28.640 You came back again.
00:12:29.540 So, to me, I want to first look at all the people that only went once because I can filter those guys out.
00:12:35.480 The one-timers are like, all right, 80% chance they didn't do anything.
00:12:39.900 They went back.
00:12:40.560 20% may have done it like I never want to go back again.
00:12:44.280 So, let's go talk to the 80%ers that are still alive.
00:12:47.020 But you can do basic data analytics with this to see patterns.
00:12:50.800 It's not hard to see patterns with this kind of stuff.
00:12:53.040 My opinion.
00:12:53.700 I see a pattern here.
00:12:56.580 Man, I'd love to have access.
00:12:58.460 I'd love to be on the inside right now.
00:13:00.780 Just give me a couple.
00:13:02.720 It's very interesting to me.
00:13:04.280 And this is actually telling of what's actually going on.
00:13:06.260 Vinny said that there's an 80% chance that anybody that went.
00:13:11.320 80% where Tom said 9%.
00:13:14.300 Yeah, Tom's in the 4%.
00:13:15.500 Tom's the words, talk, numbers, scream.
00:13:17.980 Vinny's the scream guy.
00:13:19.160 I would love you guys to come to an agreement of why Tom is so low and you are so high.
00:13:24.120 Because that, to me, is the crux of the conversation.
00:13:27.480 Vinny is very, like, believe me, it's a percentage.
00:13:31.040 I don't know if it's 1% or 99%.
00:13:33.420 I'm closer to Tom.
00:13:35.200 But explain.
00:13:35.860 I would love for you guys to take 30 seconds to explain why you think your position is right.
00:13:38.860 I'll give you my 30 seconds.
00:13:39.960 Go ahead.
00:13:40.240 You only need.
00:13:41.440 Look at the chessboard.
00:13:42.440 You don't need the pawns.
00:13:43.860 You get two knights, two bishops, and a rook.
00:13:46.300 And you don't even need the queen.
00:13:48.420 You have several of the key pieces to continue what he was doing, raising all the money, spending all the money, doing all that.
00:13:56.660 There is a reason he was doing all this.
00:13:59.180 Was he Mossad?
00:14:00.040 Was he a CIA asset?
00:14:01.400 A lot of people are pointing to that.
00:14:02.940 And if that's what he was doing, all you need is the big chess pieces.
00:14:06.280 That's why I think it's, like, 9%.
00:14:07.940 I think it's 50% or plus because I think everybody knew exactly who he was.
00:14:13.500 Everybody knew that you could come to this island and do whatever you want.
00:14:16.260 And nobody, did you think any of them thought, number one, they were being recorded?
00:14:20.180 Or number two, they're on an island and the Virgin Islands if they were ever going to get caught.
00:14:23.720 Let me tell you what.
00:14:24.220 And I believe in evil.
00:14:25.260 And you're the one that got me.
00:14:26.340 Tom, you talked to me about, and I know I've said this before on the podcast, Ephesians chapter 6, verse 12.
00:14:31.300 In my heart of hearts as a Christian belief, it's beyond that.
00:14:35.300 When I say demons, Adam, and I mean that sincerely, either they're working for the devil or they don't even know that they are.
00:14:42.060 They're sleeping with underage girls.
00:14:43.620 Can I ask you a question?
00:14:44.240 Check this out, Tom.
00:14:45.060 I just thought about something.
00:14:46.040 Yeah.
00:14:46.720 So if you've seen the Epstein documentary and the Jelaine documentary.
00:14:50.480 I watch them both because of you.
00:14:51.840 So when they would keep coming back, the girl, and then the one girl's like, what did I do wrong?
00:14:55.580 I didn't do anything wrong.
00:14:56.380 You brought 25 girls here, but I didn't do anything.
00:14:58.800 He was paying me $200 per girl.
00:15:00.400 You brought underage girls here.
00:15:01.740 The girl got in trouble.
00:15:02.560 Trafficking.
00:15:02.880 I don't know what happened for trafficking, right?
00:15:04.900 Okay.
00:15:05.680 Crazy question for you.
00:15:06.700 Crazy question for you.
00:15:10.140 How many say a very powerful player showed up?
00:15:13.100 Okay.
00:15:13.880 How, I mean.
00:15:14.780 Very powerful.
00:15:15.280 Pick it.
00:15:15.560 Like Leon Black.
00:15:16.300 Okay.
00:15:16.500 Guys like this.
00:15:17.220 Like Andrew.
00:15:17.980 Any of these guys.
00:15:19.520 How many of them went in and they're like, Jeff said, hey, I will forgive you of the $10 million fee you pay me this year.
00:15:28.960 If you're able to get X, Y, Z here on the island and we get them locked in.
00:15:33.380 Oh, that's.
00:15:34.000 And then we'll split the commission together.
00:15:35.480 I think that happened a lot, Pat.
00:15:36.560 Did you understand what I just said?
00:15:37.680 Yep.
00:15:38.300 Do you understand what I'm asking?
00:15:39.460 So for example, hey.
00:15:41.500 Great question.
00:15:42.460 Jeff, I can't pay anything, man.
00:15:43.960 This is ridiculous.
00:15:44.860 I'm running a business.
00:15:45.620 I'm paper rich.
00:15:46.240 I'm not cash rich.
00:15:47.380 No problem.
00:15:48.340 You bring three girls, three guys here.
00:15:50.500 We get them on camera.
00:15:51.600 I will waive your fee.
00:15:52.600 Wow.
00:15:53.100 Oh.
00:15:53.520 And here's a list of names.
00:15:54.860 I know you're friends with them.
00:15:56.100 Oh, man.
00:15:56.720 And then the guy is like, hey, man, Bill, what are you doing?
00:15:59.660 Let's go, man.
00:16:00.300 I was there.
00:16:00.840 It's nothing.
00:16:01.440 It's great.
00:16:02.720 Don't believe any of that stuff.
00:16:03.800 It's just, it's a great time.
00:16:05.060 Then you go in.
00:16:05.780 Then you get them.
00:16:06.640 Then there's a meeting.
00:16:07.840 You've been waived.
00:16:08.820 Guess what?
00:16:09.380 $200 million, $100 million, $20 million.
00:16:11.780 And I'll give you $5 million.
00:16:13.760 Wow.
00:16:15.220 How much of that do I believe?
00:16:16.320 I don't know if it happened.
00:16:17.460 But the more I'm thinking about the business model.
00:16:20.260 That's him.
00:16:21.160 He would think like that.
00:16:22.560 That's who he is.
00:16:23.140 You see those texts, Matt?
00:16:24.300 That's a great question.
00:16:25.360 I believe.
00:16:25.920 Of course.
00:16:26.720 Like, even on paper, like, hey, listen, I've given you enough.
00:16:29.920 Like, I can't.
00:16:30.500 Like, Leon Black.
00:16:31.120 Like, look how obvious that is.
00:16:32.640 Bring me at least one other big-ass name, and you're good.
00:16:37.020 I'm done with you.
00:16:37.820 Next.
00:16:38.000 Which is basically the whole premise that it's a blackmailing business operation, and
00:16:43.220 the women are just sort of ancillary to help the cause.
00:16:46.800 To me, it's a little far-fetched.
00:16:48.460 You think everybody ever that goes there is a pedophile.
00:16:52.400 But to me, that is so extreme.
00:16:54.300 I would love, I would volunteer, pro bono.
00:17:00.520 I would sign any of the stuff that I need to sign, but allow me to do my job.
00:17:06.740 It's the only thing I ask.
00:17:08.160 I will sign a clearance, but allow me to do my job, and I want to bring a couple analysts
00:17:14.620 that they will also sign things off.
00:17:16.420 I just want to look through the data to see the BBACs, the one-timers.
00:17:22.400 They have all that data to look at patterns.
00:17:26.100 Because we would be able to find out the best customers, and we'd be able to find out the,
00:17:31.860 and maybe some of this stuff is already public, that people can, somebody independently can
00:17:34.960 do this as well.
00:17:35.560 Who knows?
00:17:36.200 2026 is going to be a magical year, and I'm convinced most people are going to screw it
00:17:40.660 up.
00:17:41.220 Most people are not going to have the right plans in place.
00:17:43.200 Most people are going to wink it going into 2026, and my biggest suggestion to you is
00:17:48.580 whatever you're doing, do not wink going into 2026.
00:17:52.560 Whether you're an individual employee, you have a family, wife, and kids, and family,
00:17:57.060 you've got big plans for your family, you want to do something special for them, you're
00:18:00.360 an independent contractor, you're a business owner, you're a government employee, whatever
00:18:03.440 it may be, if there's ever been a year to fully be locked in for a great business plan,
00:18:08.540 it's 25 going into 26.
00:18:10.260 26 is going to be a 250-year anniversary.
00:18:12.060 23, Trump turns 80, World Cup's coming to the U.S., rates are going to probably lower
00:18:16.320 three more times in 2026, stock market's going to open up with IPOs, it's going to be a special
00:18:20.820 year, and a lot of people are going to have a lot of success in 2026.
00:18:24.360 I would like you to do the same as well.
00:18:25.820 However, on December 12th, every year, I do a one-day webinar for business planning.
00:18:32.660 We call it the Business Planning Workshop.
00:18:34.900 I want to show you a video of two people, see if you recognize the two guys, and see which
00:18:38.440 one you are, when people do business planning.
00:18:40.000 One guy's name is Ernie, one guy's name is Larry, they were both annoying.
00:18:45.320 I love both of them, but they were annoying in this setting.
00:18:48.420 But I want you to watch and see which one you are, and then I want to encourage you to get
00:18:51.320 registered today for December 12th.
00:18:52.860 Go ahead and play the clip, Rob.
00:18:54.400 So today I'm looking at two business plans.
00:18:56.160 One is by Ernie, whose business plan is purely based on emotion.
00:19:00.100 The other one is Larry, whose business plan is purely based off of logic.
00:19:03.860 You tell me, if you were an investor, who you would invest in, Ernie or Larry?
00:19:09.220 Okay, guys.
00:19:09.760 So thank you for being here.
00:19:10.780 Ernie, Larry, let's go ahead and get started.
00:19:12.940 Thank you, Patrick.
00:19:14.140 So I love the enthusiasm you're excited about.
00:19:16.180 How are you actually going to do it?
00:19:17.240 Patrick, this thing is going to be massive.
00:19:18.940 I'm telling you, it's going to make billions and billions of dollars.
00:19:22.120 Don't worry about that right now.
00:19:23.160 I'm just telling you, we're going to dominate the marketplace.
00:19:25.120 Everybody's going to be talking about us.
00:19:26.220 I share this idea with multiple people in my family.
00:19:29.040 They all love it.
00:19:29.700 Even my grandmother's actually deaf in one year.
00:19:31.520 She's still got it.
00:19:32.580 Get out of here.
00:19:32.980 Yes.
00:19:33.480 Okay, so that's good.
00:19:34.420 It's promising.
00:19:34.960 But how are you going to present it to investors?
00:19:36.540 Pat, I'll worry about that later.
00:19:37.660 Just right now, it's about the vibe.
00:19:38.860 It's just going and getting it.
00:19:39.780 People feed off the energy.
00:19:40.940 You don't feel that?
00:19:41.840 Feel that.
00:19:42.380 Unbelievable.
00:19:42.640 Look at that.
00:19:42.900 People want that.
00:19:43.660 People invest in that.
00:19:44.520 Makes sense.
00:19:45.060 Yeah.
00:19:45.520 Totally makes sense.
00:19:46.620 Actually, Patrick, the market data suggests a 1.7 probability of scale, assuming favorable inflation
00:19:51.720 trends.
00:19:52.360 So yes, that's where I'm at right now.
00:19:55.200 What's the vision?
00:19:55.920 Give me the vision long term.
00:19:57.600 Actually, Patrick, that's where I wear the glasses.
00:19:59.280 I really don't have good vision.
00:20:00.740 But I ran 47 simulations, and none of them support anything that you were talking about
00:20:04.940 earlier about gut feelings and anything like that.
00:20:07.220 Is there any plans to disrupt an industry?
00:20:09.460 Does that excite you?
00:20:11.120 Do you have the right people around you on the team?
00:20:13.240 Patrick, people equal problems.
00:20:15.020 I trust a sales spreadsheet more than I trust people.
00:20:17.740 Makes sense.
00:20:18.460 Listen, I wish you nothing but the best.
00:20:19.800 So we're done?
00:20:20.480 We're fully done, yes.
00:20:21.380 Can I update my sheet?
00:20:22.340 I'm leaving early.
00:20:23.060 I can go home and play with my cats.
00:20:24.560 Thank you, Patrick.
00:20:25.480 Hey, hey, hey, hey.
00:20:26.420 So the truth is, we just saw all emotion, Ernie, and we just saw all logic, Larry, right?
00:20:30.520 The reality of it is, I've been doing business plans for the last 25 years.
00:20:34.680 Tens of thousands of business plans with people.
00:20:36.980 The truth is, you need both.
00:20:38.220 You need emotion for fire.
00:20:40.520 You need logic for clarity and plan.
00:20:42.980 This is why once a year, I host an event called the Business Planning Workshop.
00:20:46.700 It's the only virtual event that we do that anybody from around the world can come and log into this one here.
00:20:52.660 You get a 200-page manual based on 12 building blocks on how you can write a business plan to make 2026 the beginning of the greatest years of your life.
00:21:03.020 If you, your team, your spouse, you guys haven't registered yet, click on the link below.
00:21:07.340 Get registered.
00:21:08.420 Cannot wait to spend an entire day with you on December 12th of this year.
00:21:12.420 I'll see you there.
00:21:13.700 All right.
00:21:14.260 So we're going to put the link below, Rob, for people to go ahead and get registered.
00:21:17.760 Ernie was fantastic, but I kind of like Larry more.
00:21:20.140 Larry, to me, was a little nerdy, exciting guy to be around.
00:21:22.860 But go, Rob, what's the website to get registered for for people that are just listening?
00:21:28.260 BPW.BetDavidConsulting.com.
00:21:30.640 The link is also in the description and pinned to the chat.
00:21:32.660 Beautiful.
00:21:33.040 There you go.
00:21:33.560 BPW.BetDavidConsulting.com.
00:21:36.400 Get registered.
00:21:37.080 Watch it with your team.
00:21:37.940 Watch it with your family.
00:21:38.860 Looking forward to spending December 12th, 2025 this year with you.
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