Valuetainment - April 10, 2026


“Rebuild Or Get Replaced” - Mark Cuban WARNS CEOs About AI Disruption


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In this episode, we discuss the impact of AI on public companies and how it will impact them in the future. CEO's are facing a dilemma that is similar to the Innovator's Dilemma and Mark Cuban's "you are in deep shit" tweet.

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00:00:00.000 Mark Cuban said something about AI as well yesterday.
00:00:03.720 I think he tweeted this a couple days ago. 0.99
00:00:05.920 American billionaire Mark Cuban warns startup CEOs you are in deep shit 0.96
00:00:09.600 if it doesn't make sense for you to ask your AI models questions about, 0.98
00:00:14.180 and here's what it is.
00:00:15.440 Every entrepreneur that knows how to use AI is trying to find out ways
00:00:19.200 to build AI, native companies that completely displace incumbents.
00:00:22.620 For the incumbents, it is the innovator's AI dilemma.
00:00:25.300 If the startups get traction and they can't buy them,
00:00:28.500 The CEOs will face multiple huge dilemmas.
00:00:30.920 Number one, do they fear, do they tear down their companies and reinvent them as native AI?
00:00:37.400 Rob, if you can, left it up a little bit.
00:00:39.060 How do they explain it to public shareholders?
00:00:41.360 Number two, you will know AI is having a huge impact on public companies when there are two types of lawsuits.
00:00:47.860 Shareholders that sue company for tearing down the company and crushing the stock price.
00:00:51.620 Or number two, shareholders that sue the company for not tearing down the company and crushing the stock price.
00:00:57.420 Lose, lose.
00:00:58.500 I think most CEOs don't come close to understanding AI in enough detail to even begin to consider these decisions.
00:01:04.280 Hint, asking your AI models the best paths from where you are now to being an AI native version that can achieve the same economics has to be one of your initial steps. 0.99
00:01:14.760 If asking your models questions doesn't make sense to you, you are in deep shit. 0.99
00:01:19.080 Tom? 0.99
00:01:19.660 Well, if you go back to the top of the tweet, I think I know what he's talking about.
00:01:25.020 Yep, it's the innovator's AI dilemma.
00:01:27.960 The Innovator's Dilemma was a book written by Clayton Christensen.
00:01:30.640 What Clayton Christensen said was that the innovator's dilemma is that, you know, a well-managed company can run headlong into like a disruptive technology, the Internet, whatever it is, e-commerce.
00:01:43.820 And that those things initially maybe if you run to it as an innovator, Pat, like you're a CEO and you're an innovator and you say, hey, we have to be doing something on this.
00:01:53.920 And initially maybe it doesn't go so well.
00:01:56.000 then you go ah you know maybe it's not what it's cracked maybe e-commerce not what's cracked up to
00:02:00.920 be security wasn't there some of our people complained that wasn't a human you know the
00:02:06.060 orders we couldn't track them as well ah this e-commerce isn't what it's cracked up to be
00:02:10.800 and then you kind of dismiss it that's a dilemma then you come back later and go wait a minute i
00:02:15.800 just got my butt kicked by companies that made e-commerce work and it's a whole different channel
00:02:20.480 of distribution for them now well i think what mark cuban is talking about is clayton christensen
00:02:25.260 And he's talking about that if you think right now, because you tried to use it and it didn't result in massive cost savings, you are facing and you should be asking yourself about tearing down and going back.
00:02:37.700 And I think that's what he's talking about.
00:02:40.140 And I think he's making a really good point that if you think you don't see enough benefit now, if you're not asking yourself about tearing it down and back, then you could be out in the cold when some company does.
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00:03:51.580 yeah I mean god if you're running especially a big company you you cannot afford to turn your
00:03:59.920 back on this technology I mean here's the thing I think that um I've called AI a
00:04:06.600 really disruptive disaggregator and what I mean by that is that AI is decentralizing the economy
00:04:15.700 in a way that we are probably never going to experience
00:04:20.640 because what it's doing is it's empowering your average person
00:04:25.100 to actually do the work of a relatively large corporation now.
00:04:30.360 You can have a small team of people who, if they're adept at using AI,
00:04:34.480 they can operate like a really big team.
00:04:37.140 I mean, I'll use my business as a great example where last year
00:04:39.920 I was planning to hire multiple CFPs and probably a tech person,
00:04:43.340 And all of a sudden, I start getting really adept at AI, and I start realizing, holy cow, I can write software.
00:04:51.700 If I have a financial planning question now, maybe I know 80% of the right things to actually tackle, but that last 20% made my answer wrong.
00:05:02.720 I know the answer to that last 20% now, where maybe I'm not a CFP, but I'm as dangerous as a CFP now because I know I'm experienced enough to operate like a CFP,
00:05:12.360 And I know the right questions to ask to get me to that 100%.
00:05:15.960 And I can prompt an AI to get me to the right place and give a client the right answer.
00:05:20.440 And so I'm suddenly able to operate as a multi-person financial planning team where you look at, you know, especially entities like, gosh, law firms or big consulting firms.
00:05:31.500 I think that it's interesting that Mark points out shareholders.
00:05:34.100 I don't think the owners are the people who are at risk here.
00:05:37.420 The owners are the people who this is all going to be accretive to in the long run.
00:05:41.300 they're going to be the beneficiaries of this because the profits ultimately will flow to them.
00:05:45.360 It's the workers. You know, you think of the structure of something like a law firm where
00:05:49.900 you've got, you know, say 50 partners and, you know, 200 associates there. What does a law firm
00:05:56.060 want to do? A law firm wants those associates just bill, bill, bill, bill, bill. The problem is now
00:06:00.920 you've got incumbents that can come in that are, let's say, a five-person law firm with five
00:06:07.380 partners and a 20-person associate team, that law firm all of a sudden has the capability
00:06:12.080 to be as efficient as the big law firm.
00:06:14.740 And what's going to happen there?
00:06:15.920 It's competition.
00:06:17.200 That big firm can no longer charge the huge rates that they wanted to.
00:06:21.040 Their associates can't just keep billing at $250 an hour.
00:06:24.320 And all of a sudden, the smaller firm has pricing power.
00:06:27.420 What's going to happen?
00:06:28.100 Prices come down.
00:06:29.300 Competition wins.
00:06:30.560 The big firms have to get disaggregated because the small firms are more competitive.
00:06:34.960 Is CFP still what it was back in the days?
00:06:37.020 I know you used to be at Merrill before.
00:06:38.740 You had half a billion dollars of money under management.
00:06:41.140 Back in the days when you were at Merrill, it was a big deal when you were a CFP.
00:06:45.320 I just remember the guy's a certified financial planner.
00:06:47.260 Oh, my God.
00:06:47.820 You put on your – when I was at Morgan Stanley Dean, I'm like,
00:06:50.540 that guy's a certified financial planner.
00:06:52.220 I wish I could become one.
00:06:53.600 Does it still carry a big –
00:06:55.900 You know, it'll be interesting to see how that materializes.
00:06:59.360 I mean, I would argue that it's – especially in the scope of AI,
00:07:04.840 it's probably one of the more valuable certifications you can have
00:07:08.860 because something like a CFA,
00:07:11.440 actually all the guys that work at investment banks,
00:07:13.780 their jobs have maybe not become replaceable with AI,
00:07:18.120 but that's a workload that AI can do very, very well.
00:07:21.660 The interesting thing about being a CFP is that being a CFP is still,
00:07:26.340 it's a person-to-person business.
00:07:28.520 You're working in a very personalized, human-to-human interaction
00:07:32.900 that I actually think industries like that potentially,
00:07:36.020 if you deal with people, you shake people's hands every day,
00:07:39.080 that's something that's going to become more valuable in the AI world
00:07:42.300 because that's something that people are going to demand more of.
00:07:45.240 They're going to want more of the face-to-face in a world where they get that.
00:07:48.480 I agree.
00:07:49.080 I think team humans long-term, AI is going to go like this,
00:07:52.200 and then they're going to come back and say,
00:07:53.360 who still has influence over people?
00:07:55.260 Those are the people we need to go and find.
00:07:56.940 Brandon?
00:07:57.340 Well, a massive opportunity here for anybody who's worried about losing a job.
00:08:00.440 If you become masterful at knowing how to use and implement AI, like I just sent up a report on average, 90 to 95 percent of companies who are trying to use AI to do something for their business and find no ROI on it.
00:08:12.240 So meaning they don't know how to use or implement it.
00:08:14.340 So there's a huge gap right now in like wanting to use AI for a business and not knowing what to do with it once you implement it.
00:08:20.400 So, you know, that's I think that's a huge blue ocean for a lot of people if they know what to do with AI but don't know what to do with a job or career or future.
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