Valuetainment - November 29, 2025


Ron DeSantis' $61B Problem: Will Florida be the First Property and Income Tax-Free State?


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Is it a good idea to get rid of $61 billion in property taxes in Florida? Is this even possible? Who benefits from this? Who does the hurt? And who does the benefit? In this episode, we cover the pros and cons of this idea.

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00:00:00.000 So Governor DeSantis from Florida is proposing something that no other state in America is
00:00:04.460 doing today. No state income taxes, no property taxes. Complete opposite of what Mamdani is
00:00:10.940 proposing in New York City. Free buses, free government rent, groceries, all these free
00:00:16.020 things that he wants on tax to rich. He's doing the opposite. Mamdani's listening to his younger
00:00:20.360 voters. DeSantis maybe is listening to his older voters, Florida boomers. There's a big debate on
00:00:25.720 Twitter with DeSantis. You just want to protect your boomer billionaires and millionaires and
00:00:29.460 no, that's not true. Back and forth. Is it a good idea to get rid of $61 billion revenue you're
00:00:36.120 getting from property taxes? Is this even possible? Who's it going to hurt? Who does the benefit?
00:00:41.960 We're going to talk about that today. Okay. So if you're wondering why is this guy hanging on to all
00:00:54.500 these notes, if you want, this is all the research from what we're going to cover today. If you want
00:00:57.540 this hang around, I think I'm going to tell you how to get all these notes. Okay. So let's go through
00:01:01.000 it. Roughly $61 billion, 2024 revenue came from property taxes. Of that $61 billion, 18 to 20 billion
00:01:10.300 was homestead. People who live here, non-homestead was $40 billion to $43 billion. 64% of people who
00:01:18.480 don't live here. These are people that own a vacation home. It's Florida. It's a beautiful place.
00:01:23.100 They want to come here during the winter, all of that. Right now, look, look at this year,
00:01:27.120 the $61 billion. We wanted to find out where that money is spent. 50 to 60% of it funds school
00:01:34.600 district funding. 18 to 19% is county revenue. 17% is municipal. And the last 10% is special district
00:01:41.940 water management, different projects that they work on. So now what is the biggest concern with this?
00:01:48.540 If he decides to eliminate property taxes, one, raising taxes in other places. You know what?
00:01:56.100 If you take the money, 61 billion from this place, you're going to have to get that money from another
00:02:01.240 place. How are you going to fund all these different things that you have? And he said multiple times,
00:02:05.800 DeSantis himself has said, he does not want to raise taxes, raise sales taxes, which you'll see what
00:02:12.040 sales taxes will look like if he has to do that. Because sales taxes right now in Florida is 6% plus
00:02:18.540 some local surtaxes. If they eliminate this, some are saying sales taxes may have to go all the way
00:02:25.780 up to 11 to 12%. We'll be the highest in America. He says, nope, we're not going to be touching that.
00:02:30.840 Okay. So then what are we going to do? State transfers. Is the federal government going to step
00:02:35.320 in and wanting to help out Florida? Is Florida going to go to other states for help? Who knows?
00:02:39.480 Number three, spending cuts. You're going to have to cut different places, other fundings that you
00:02:43.420 have. Number four, people are saying this mainly benefits boomers and the rich. Like for instance,
00:02:48.380 Tampa Bay. If in Tampa, you own a family home, your annual tax is roughly property taxes, $67.50.
00:02:55.740 In Miami Beach Condo, $93.75. But in Naples Luxury Home, you're spending $18,750 on property tax. If we
00:03:03.760 eliminate this, who's it really helping? And the challenge we have right now in America with
00:03:07.920 affordability. Is it for the people that are the boomers and the rich, or is it the younger families
00:03:12.580 just got married 30 years old, husband and wife want to have kids, want to buy a house. They can't
00:03:16.760 afford to do so. Do you want to tailor to them? So they show up to you, or do you want to tailor
00:03:21.740 to the rich? That's the criticism and the back and forth that they're doing right now with the debate,
00:03:26.040 which is totally fine. But again, keep in mind, if they do this, this will be the only state that's no
00:03:31.760 income taxes, as well as no property taxes. Let me continue. So now on this side, if we go through
00:03:37.900 in regards to the concern, watch this possible benefits, possible benefits, number one. So his
00:03:44.560 idea, if they do this, who do you attract? You increase migration from other high states,
00:03:52.120 such as who? New York is possibly about to have a massive amount of people that are going to leave
00:03:57.820 New York. They could be coming here. This is good. We want people to want to come here and not want
00:04:01.740 to pay property taxes. Number two, encourage capital, inflows, and new development. People
00:04:06.900 are saying, wait a minute. You're not going to be saying, come to Florida. You're not going to pay
00:04:10.520 property taxes. Let's go build. Let's go to Florida and build. This is a good place to invest
00:04:15.700 inflow of capital and development. Make Florida an attractive place for remote workers, retirees,
00:04:22.340 and businesses relocating their staff, kind of like King Griffin is doing and some of the other guys are
00:04:26.560 doing. We're going to get businesses that are going to put their folks to be in Florida. And that's
00:04:31.220 exciting if they do that, right? That's kind of what we're thinking about it. Now, a few things to be
00:04:35.300 thinking about when it comes down to Florida. How will it be funded? He's saying, instead of us raising
00:04:42.200 the sales taxes, couple ideas. One, let's just increase tourism tax. Guess what? If you're coming in,
00:04:50.480 I'm just spitballing. If you're coming in, instead of paying this much for a hotel, we're adding a tax on
00:04:55.980 hotel for people that are coming as tourists. You're going to come and get a cab. You're going
00:04:59.480 to come and get whatever, maybe rental cars. You're going to have a certain fee that's going
00:05:03.340 to go up. Now, keep in mind, Florida, 10% of the state revenue comes from tourism. So you have to
00:05:08.840 realize Disney World, Universal, Miami, Florida, Palm Beach. There's so many reasons to want to come
00:05:15.720 down to Florida. Number two, hire on commercial non-homestead. So you're elsewhere. You want to build
00:05:21.820 down here, residential or commercial rates. Let's raise the taxes on those guys and an entry fee,
00:05:28.140 which is absolutely insane. In Canada, a lot of people here you meet from Canada, they left.
00:05:33.300 They'll tell you, I had to pay an exit fee, leaving Canada. What do you mean? Well, if I'm leaving
00:05:38.560 Canada, if I want to take my money out of Canada, I got to pay an exit fee. A couple of years ago,
00:05:42.840 California noticed how many people were leaving. And so they said, we got to figure out a way that if
00:05:47.160 you leave California, you go to Nevada, you sell your business for $100 million. Two years later,
00:05:53.440 they said to come back to California, wait a minute, you got to pay that 13.3% that you saved
00:05:58.100 on $100 million. You owe that 13.3 million back to us. Something like that, except here is an entry
00:06:04.840 fee. You want to leave New York to come here? You got to pay us. He's going to have a lot of issues
00:06:08.700 there legally to get that passed. He's a lawyer himself. He knows this one's going to be tricky,
00:06:12.860 but again, he's going to be pushing the envelope for that. So let's stay on this because there's
00:06:17.940 something that we're thinking about here. I love the fact that he is constantly thinking about
00:06:24.480 innovative ways of making a state better. Okay. Constantly pushing the envelope. What if we do
00:06:29.760 this? What if we do that? I like staying there. I'd like to propose something. If we're thinking about
00:06:34.860 Florida, this is the issue. These two charts tell a story. And this is a concern in America today.
00:06:41.900 People over 70 years old have steadily increased their gap on wealth. So if you think about from
00:06:48.860 1989 till today, corporate equities and mutual fund shares, it was at 20%. Now they're at 38%.
00:06:55.280 Assets, roughly 20%. Now they're up 35%. Real estate, 18%. They're at 28%, give or take.
00:07:03.300 And then home mortgages, you see what that's looking like. Now look at the people under the age of 40.
00:07:07.200 They've lost ground in housing and financial assets. Look at mutual funds and equities. It's
00:07:13.460 gone down. Look at assets. It's gone down. Look at real estate. It's gone down. Look at home
00:07:18.000 mortgages. It's gone down. So the youth where you're hearing the main issue right now being
00:07:22.880 affordability, they're saying, Hey man, can we, can you make it a way where I can afford to live in
00:07:27.480 your state? We got to be thinking about affordability. This chart shows how buying a home in 1985 versus
00:07:35.700 2025, roughly same age at the time. You're making the same life-changing decisions. Let's get married.
00:07:41.640 Let's have a kid. Let's buy a house, right? When boomers had to make that decision back then,
00:07:46.200 the average household income was 23,620. The median household income was 23,620, but the median home
00:07:56.440 price was $83,200, which this right here, the math on this, if you think about the math on this,
00:08:05.000 this is three and a half X, your income to the house you were buying. Now millennials, median income,
00:08:12.600 74,000 median house, 468,000. Do you know for them, this is six X of what they got to pay for their
00:08:22.560 income? They're making, they're sitting there saying, I can't afford to do this.
00:08:26.900 Man, it's too much money for me. By the way, property tax, full disclosure. We were just on
00:08:30.980 right now. I called my wife. What are we paying this year in property tax in a home we live?
00:08:35.000 You know what our property tax is? $350,000 is what we have to pay for 2025 property tax.
00:08:41.120 I don't think we shouldn't pay right now because if they cut this, it benefits a guy like me.
00:08:48.400 We need that $61 billion revenue for the state. Can you imagine I'm telling you that I don't want
00:08:54.480 to cut that? Why? This is how I would think about it. If I'm looking at the state, here's where I
00:09:00.180 would go. Stay with me. So this kind of makes sense to you. I will look at it from two places.
00:09:04.700 Okay. Possible solution. Of course, I understand the governor is talking about more homestead
00:09:10.100 people, not paying property taxes. Those are people that live here, not people that are not living here.
00:09:15.960 We know the difference. $18 to $20 million on the other side is $40 to $43 billion of tax revenue
00:09:21.900 that's coming in. Let's take the homestead and make this possible to do so. What if the governor
00:09:27.400 did the following? What if it became no taxes on homes under a million dollars to help younger
00:09:35.620 families? Let's just say husband and wife want to get married. They're 32 years old. They want to have
00:09:40.040 two kids. They buy a $700,000 house. They don't pay any taxes. Their first time buyers give them
00:09:46.980 10 years of not having to pay property taxes. I just became a homeowner. I just bought my first
00:09:52.040 house. Give me a run rate. First 10 years, no property taxes, right? First loan, first 10 years,
00:09:57.760 something like that. Or number two, the other option would be folks that are 65 plus retired,
00:10:04.260 collecting social security. If they live in a home, zero to $4 million, guess what? No property taxes.
00:10:10.620 Why? Because his argument is actually a very logical argument. How is it that you live in a house?
00:10:17.400 They claim you own it, but you have to pay me taxes. I thought you owned the house. Why are you
00:10:23.220 paying me taxes on something you own? It's kind of like you bought a car. It's paid off. It's yours.
00:10:29.100 $60,000 car. Do you pay taxes on that car every year? Then why are you paying
00:10:34.000 taxes every year on that? There is a very, very good argument on paid off homes for people not
00:10:39.780 to pay taxes. I fully understand the concept of paid off. If it's paid off, you bought the property
00:10:45.040 cash. There's nothing else going on. Yes, we can have that argument of not paying taxes,
00:10:49.480 but it's not paid off. Different story. You have to pay property taxes. In this instance,
00:10:54.260 for people that are 65 and up, zero to $4 million, you can change that base. I just don't think you need
00:11:01.140 to go to a $60 million homeowner person. Hey, we feel bad for you. You don't have to pay property.
00:11:06.240 And there's plenty of them here in Manalapan and Palm Beach and certain areas of Miami and Naples.
00:11:10.800 This place has a lot of beautiful homes, right? This prevents them from losing their home because
00:11:16.160 property taxes are due and it increases roughly every year. So all of a sudden, this 72-year-old
00:11:22.120 husband and wife, they've lived in this property for 32 years. Their kids and grandkids love this place.
00:11:28.520 It's on the water. It's on the bay, whatever it is. We now can't pay the property tax. We are forced
00:11:34.960 to sell or we don't make the payment. And the next thing you know, I am forced to sell via
00:11:39.040 a deed sale. I don't think that's cool. I don't want them to pay the price and I want them to be
00:11:44.260 able to be excited about moving to a great state like this. So these are my ideas. Again, I love,
00:11:49.240 absolutely love the fact that he's proposing ideas like this. It's always good when you have a governor
00:11:54.080 who's the head of your state that's proposing new ideas. You want that. You want new, fresh ideas
00:11:59.420 to have a lot of debate. And then at the end of the day, through the debate, boom, we have a great
00:12:03.420 idea that we can do something with. So I love it. I'm excited about it. Some of the details are
00:12:08.100 complicated, but if you want to get all the notes that we did earlier that I showed you,
00:12:12.280 if you want to get access to all these notes for free, go to PBD Entrepreneur Circle. Click on the link
00:12:18.400 below. Take the notes. There's a bunch of research that's not even on the video here. And you can find
00:12:23.280 out exactly how we're seeing this for ourselves. Give us your thoughts. You can manect me directly.
00:12:27.660 My QR code is right here. Manect me. You may say, good idea, bad idea. Here's what else I would want
00:12:32.080 to do. I want to hear from you. And last but not least, if you enjoyed this video, we did a video
00:12:37.660 many years ago, four or five years ago, titled 10 Reasons Why I Moved to Florida. If you've never seen a
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