＂Show A Little Toughness＂ – Why JD Vance's Iran Trip Raised Eyebrows
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The latest on the Iran deal, the Straits of Hormuz, and much more. Plus, a special guest joins us on the show to discuss the latest in the latest news involving Iran and the Middle East.
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The Iranian people show up, the delegates to want to negotiate with Vance.
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There's clips of saying, look, they're punking vans.
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Qatar's leader didn't even want to shake the vice president's hands.
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You know, you can play some of these clips so they can see it.
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That is the broker who's trying to make this deal happen,
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and this is the moment they're kissing and looking at this.
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That's a Qatar leader, walks off, and it looked like J.D. wanted to shake hands,
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Some are saying they spoke before, and look, J.D. keeps trying to,
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But he looked at him, so he gave him the right attention as well.
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And then there's the moment, if you have this, where the Pakistani leader in the middle
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who is trying to negotiate the deal, but Iranian delegation comes in and says
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he can't say something like that, and apparently they got up and they left the meeting.
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This was the moment, and if you look at the leader's face, he's like,
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That's the Pakistani leader on the right that's been trying to broker the deal.
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And suddenly he's like, wait a minute, what took place?
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And allegedly they decided to leave and they left everybody there and look at Vance.
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So, again, 100% of what I'm saying to you right now is speculation.
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100% of what I'm telling you right now is speculation.
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I'm not telling you based on facts that I know.
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And allegedly both groups agreed to give each other 16 days to figure this part out.
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JD left, the other folks left, the next tier of player state.
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but the VPs and directors are there to negotiate the deal together.
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While this was going on, the president tweeted something about getting the deal done.
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and they said, we don't take the president's threat seriously.
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And the threat was something like, if you guys don't get the deal done,
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we're going to bomb Iran in ways we have never bombed Iran before,
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And, yeah, Iran must immediately stop the highly paid proxies and Lebanon from causing trouble.
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If they don't, we'll hit Iran hard again, just like we did last week, only harder.
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And so this is one, but there's another one as well.
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Another one is like, let's get this deal done.
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And Iran's people are like, we're not taking this negotiation seriously.
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And so this is letting – I'll pause here real quick, Tom, to come to you,
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and then we'll get into the real issue that I want us to process together.
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Well, the first thing I think that is good is what's happening in the background.
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And what's happening in the background today, right now, can you pull the Straits of Hormuz tracker real quick?
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How many ship transponders are in the narrow part of the Straits of Hormuz right now?
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So the Iranians may be saying, well, the straits are still closed.
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So whatever is happening, I think there's two things happening, Pat.
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I think there's a little bit of theater in the front end, like a tweet from our president walking into a room, walking out on these guys' behalf.
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But I think there's also, you know, posturing for the big discussions and the big issues.
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I think people are posturing over the big issues.
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And you've got ships moving through the strait, which is good news for all of us, frankly.
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So J.D. is really out there trying to get it done.
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But I think that was a bunch of posturing in that room when it came in so that they could go to the back room and then lever what they really want.
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Because nobody's shooting at the Gulf at this moment.
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There's 55 ships freely transporting, which is the first time in 100 days this has happened.
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By the way, in Iran, there was a video that came up.
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I don't know if you guys saw this or not, where they're talking about him bragging.
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Hassan Khomeini, grandson of the founder of the Islamic regime,
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Ruala Mostava Mosayvi Khomeini, the original guy from 79, founder of IRGC,
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held the memorandum, I'm understanding, MOU, as a major victory for Tehran,
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promising that the greater jihad would now begin according to a speech
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Iranians must stay away from the pointless disputes,
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disputes that are the product of ego and self-centeredness.
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While it is unclear which dispute he was referring to,
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the regime has struggled to suppress growing domestic dissent
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that erupted over the country's worsening economic conditions.
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Human rights organizations say tens of thousands of protesters
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were killed and tens of thousands were detained by security forces
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The regime imposed a nationwide internet shutdown preventing independence.
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So while they're having this is on a private chat that the discussion is being had.
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But, you know, Iranians are sitting there behind closers like, guys, we're about to get a pretty sick deal.
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And a lot of people are saying, wait a minute.
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Hey, this 300 billion dollars, what is that going to look like?
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And what did he say about the 300 billion dollars?
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Katie Vance came out earlier today and he said, or maybe last night, maybe this morning, he goes, we're going to guarantee none of that is going to go to fund terrorism.
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And to go to your point, Pat, the tweet that you were talking about, President Trump said, you close the strait and you won't have a country.
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You won't even make it back to your effing country, meaning they're there in Switzerland.
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Can you pull up that tweet so the audience can see it?
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Because, Pat, if you think about it, they're all right there.
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They're trying to have these peace negotiations.
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And I have one question, Pat, real quick, not to divert the conversation, but if their air force is gone, the IRGC, the Navy is gone.
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And how are they even thinking that they're victorious
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So they may be crippled, but they've hidden enough in bunkers
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and things that they can still keep launching stumps and cause problems.
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Look, J.D. Vance is in a tough situation right here.
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I mean, you know they say, like, it's only funny because it's true.
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That whole situation, watch out, J.D., I'm going to blame it on you,
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Watch that turn out to be true because J.D. Vance is in a very tough
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situation here because he basically has to defend a deal
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that I'm not even sure if Trump really believes in this deal.
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I've basically boiled down what's going on to what I call the four M's in this Iran deal.
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Trump wanted to basically use this on his birthday at the UFC to basically say,
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we have a deal. There's no deal. There's a memorandum of understanding.
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But Trump is basically trying to salvage the midterms.
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we're basically bleeding them dry with the Hormuz but Trump because of midterms there's another M
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basically wanted to sort of take the pedal off the metal and say look uh let's try to basically
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salvage midterms and work out a deal with these guys the the next one is murder for M you're
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negotiating with people who are willing to murder 30 40 50 100 000 of their own people
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like that how do you negotiate with something like that they say never negotiate with terrorists
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but uh the terrorists are typically willing to kill other people these people are willing to
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kill their own people let's not forget that and the last m is muhammad respect to you respect to
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different people's religions these people believe that they are sent from allah via muhammad to
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take over the world with shia islam how are you going to negotiate out of that you ever negotiate
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with somebody who's like i'm not moving my position i've dealt with people like that in
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my life sometimes they're women sometimes they're business people but those people won't blow
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themselves up for what they believe in this is what we're dealing with so jd vance good luck
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salute to you for trying to make a a deal out there but it's going to be very tough to do yeah
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so while this is going on and he's out there and by the way this is this is a big boy club hey see
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if these people respect you or not see how they handle you see if your word carries weight because
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do you know how you know if world leaders take you seriously think about it if you're a vp and
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you go on the road how how do they take how do you know if they take you seriously how do they
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know if they take you seriously if you saw trump when he did it the g7 everybody stopped everybody
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no no no no hear me out no no wait you're a vp he was already a president i'm talking about what
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trump i get but once you're a trump once you're president you're what you're the president i
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What I'm saying is, how do you know when a VP enters the room
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that everybody stops and reacts to you accordingly?
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The way they react, what are they telling you to your face?
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What are they telling you to your face if they don't respect you?
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And what are they telling you to your face if they do respect you?
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If they do respect you, they think you may be the guy
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and you may be back here as commander-in-chief.
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If they respect you behind closed doors, every one of these guys has to know who are the three people that could be the next president.
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And if you're going to be the next president, I better give you respect.
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So the way they handle them is they don't think he's going to be the president next.
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The way they spoke to him, I don't think they're saying he's going to be the next president.
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I think they're saying you have some work to do, maybe in 10 years,
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but we think the next president is going to be Marco Rubio.
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Because if Marco Rubio goes on the road, this is not what happens.
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When Marco Rubio went on the road, now, you know, listen,
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this is way too early to speculate and say anything.
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He has to go there and he has the, is it pizzazz?
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If they're doing a good cop, bad cop, he's trying to be a good cop.
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I think the good cop is probably more Witkoff and Kushner.
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That's their job because whoever's talking to the client the most,
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Whoever talks to the client the least, that's who needs to be the bad cop.
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Okay, so in this case, Kushner and Witkoff are going to be the good cop
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and say, look, we don't want to piss off the boss.
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But J.D. needs to go a little bit and also be a second representation of Trump
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There needs to be a little bit of that because I see Rubio would do that,
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J.D.'s been in many rooms with many business guys.
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I want to see that come out a little bit, not just on podcasts,
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And I'm sure it's happening, so it's not like I'm next to him.
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I'm speculating right now based on what I'm saying.
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