Valuetainment - June 23, 2026


＂Show A Little Toughness＂ – Why JD Vance's Iran Trip Raised Eyebrows


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00:00:20.460 The negotiations taking place, right?
00:00:23.120 Vance is in Switzerland.
00:00:24.820 The Iranian people show up, the delegates to want to negotiate with Vance.
00:00:28.380 A bunch of videos are going viral.
00:00:30.460 They're sitting there talking to each other.
00:00:32.040 There's clips of saying, look, they're punking vans.
00:00:34.660 Qatar's leader didn't even want to shake the vice president's hands.
00:00:37.940 You know, you can play some of these clips so they can see it.
00:00:40.200 That is the broker who's trying to make this deal happen,
00:00:42.660 and this is the moment they're kissing and looking at this.
00:00:45.340 That's a Qatar leader, walks off, and it looked like J.D. wanted to shake hands,
00:00:49.380 but it went the other direction.
00:00:50.580 Some are saying they spoke before, and look, J.D. keeps trying to,
00:00:55.100 But he looked at him, so he gave him the right attention as well.
00:00:59.060 And then there's the moment, if you have this, where the Pakistani leader in the middle
00:01:02.320 who is trying to negotiate the deal, but Iranian delegation comes in and says
00:01:08.200 he can't say something like that, and apparently they got up and they left the meeting.
00:01:12.880 Can you press play on this one, please?
00:01:16.040 This was the moment, and if you look at the leader's face, he's like,
00:01:19.140 wait a minute, what just happened?
00:01:20.920 That's the Pakistani leader on the right that's been trying to broker the deal.
00:01:25.200 And suddenly he's like, wait a minute, what took place?
00:01:28.400 And allegedly they decided to leave and they left everybody there and look at Vance.
00:01:34.740 So, again, 100% of what I'm saying to you right now is speculation.
00:01:38.960 100% of what I'm telling you right now is speculation.
00:01:40.940 I'm not telling you based on facts that I know.
00:01:43.020 But then they left.
00:01:44.120 And allegedly both groups agreed to give each other 16 days to figure this part out.
00:01:51.040 JD left, the other folks left, the next tier of player state.
00:01:55.440 So imagine the C-suite executives left,
00:01:57.800 but the VPs and directors are there to negotiate the deal together.
00:02:01.600 They got 16 days, 16 days.
00:02:03.280 While this was going on, the president tweeted something about getting the deal done.
00:02:07.560 And this tweet really upset a lot of Iranians,
00:02:10.140 and they said, we don't take the president's threat seriously.
00:02:13.740 And the threat was something like, if you guys don't get the deal done,
00:02:16.640 we're going to bomb Iran in ways we have never bombed Iran before, 0.96
00:02:19.440 and pa-pa-pa-pa-pa. 1.00
00:02:20.440 Again.
00:02:21.060 Yeah, again. 0.99
00:02:21.920 And, yeah, Iran must immediately stop the highly paid proxies and Lebanon from causing trouble. 0.99
00:02:26.140 If they don't, we'll hit Iran hard again, just like we did last week, only harder. 0.98
00:02:30.360 And so this is one, but there's another one as well. 0.83
00:02:32.320 Another one is like, let's get this deal done. 0.69
00:02:34.280 And Iran's people are like, we're not taking this negotiation seriously. 0.71
00:02:37.640 And so this is letting – I'll pause here real quick, Tom, to come to you, 0.96
00:02:41.420 and then we'll get into the real issue that I want us to process together.
00:02:44.160 Go ahead, Tom.
00:02:44.560 Your thoughts on this.
00:02:45.200 Well, the first thing I think that is good is what's happening in the background.
00:02:48.200 And what's happening in the background today, right now, can you pull the Straits of Hormuz tracker real quick?
00:02:56.940 You guys have it.
00:02:57.960 It should be on your list.
00:03:00.380 It should be already up as a tab in there.
00:03:03.440 Okay, scroll down.
00:03:04.400 Pat, watch this.
00:03:05.820 Look at this.
00:03:06.720 How many ship transponders are in the narrow part of the Straits of Hormuz right now?
00:03:12.920 55.
00:03:13.480 55, a normal day before February 20th, was 60.
00:03:19.660 So the Iranians may be saying, well, the straits are still closed. 0.99
00:03:23.840 We're doing this and everything.
00:03:25.080 But somehow 55 ships are coming through.
00:03:27.300 So this is a good thing.
00:03:29.060 So whatever is happening, I think there's two things happening, Pat.
00:03:32.340 I think there's a little bit of theater in the front end, like a tweet from our president walking into a room, walking out on these guys' behalf.
00:03:39.500 But I think there's also, you know, posturing for the big discussions and the big issues.
00:03:45.980 I don't think these are walkaways right now.
00:03:48.160 I think people are posturing over the big issues.
00:03:51.460 And you've got ships moving through the strait, which is good news for all of us, frankly.
00:03:56.340 And, you know, you're looking at J.D. Vance.
00:04:01.340 He's been in play.
00:04:03.420 I mean, he's been on tour in the U.S.
00:04:06.340 I mean, look at all the podcasts he was on.
00:04:07.960 Look at all the shows he was on.
00:04:09.120 He was on The View.
00:04:10.140 He's out there, out there.
00:04:11.420 He was referred to as the architect.
00:04:14.420 So J.D. is really out there trying to get it done.
00:04:17.700 But I think that was a bunch of posturing in that room when it came in so that they could go to the back room and then lever what they really want.
00:04:23.780 Because nobody's shooting at the Gulf at this moment.
00:04:25.980 There's 55 ships freely transporting, which is the first time in 100 days this has happened.
00:04:31.120 Yeah.
00:04:31.280 By the way, in Iran, there was a video that came up.
00:04:34.580 I don't know if you guys saw this or not, where they're talking about him bragging.
00:04:38.620 And I'll just read it to you.
00:04:39.660 Hassan Khomeini, grandson of the founder of the Islamic regime,
00:04:43.180 Ruala Mostava Mosayvi Khomeini, the original guy from 79, founder of IRGC,
00:04:48.740 held the memorandum, I'm understanding, MOU, as a major victory for Tehran,
00:04:53.380 promising that the greater jihad would now begin according to a speech
00:04:58.200 aired by state media earlier this week.
00:05:00.600 Khomeini advised that to maintain victory,
00:05:03.460 Iranians must stay away from the pointless disputes, 0.96
00:05:06.160 disputes that are the product of ego and self-centeredness.
00:05:09.640 While it is unclear which dispute he was referring to,
00:05:12.740 the regime has struggled to suppress growing domestic dissent
00:05:16.260 most visibly during the January demonstrations
00:05:19.420 that erupted over the country's worsening economic conditions.
00:05:22.020 Human rights organizations say tens of thousands of protesters
00:05:27.020 were killed and tens of thousands were detained by security forces
00:05:30.060 during the crackdown.
00:05:31.040 The regime imposed a nationwide internet shutdown preventing independence.
00:05:34.360 So while they're having this is on a private chat that the discussion is being had. 1.00
00:05:38.920 But, you know, Iranians are sitting there behind closers like, guys, we're about to get a pretty sick deal. 0.99
00:05:46.680 And a lot of people are saying, wait a minute. 1.00
00:05:48.900 Hey, this 300 billion dollars, what is that going to look like?
00:05:51.200 And what did he say about the 300 billion dollars?
00:05:52.720 Katie Vance came out earlier today and he said, or maybe last night, maybe this morning, he goes, we're going to guarantee none of that is going to go to fund terrorism.
00:06:00.700 And to go to your point, Pat, the tweet that you were talking about, President Trump said, you close the strait and you won't have a country.
00:06:07.980 You won't even make it back to your effing country, meaning they're there in Switzerland.
00:06:12.300 Can you pull up that tweet so the audience can see it? 0.88
00:06:14.120 Yeah, you won't make it back to your country.
00:06:16.540 Because, Pat, if you think about it, they're all right there.
00:06:19.320 I get it.
00:06:19.780 Swiss, they're there.
00:06:20.480 They're trying to have these peace negotiations.
00:06:22.320 And I have one question, Pat, real quick, not to divert the conversation, but if their air force is gone, the IRGC, the Navy is gone.
00:06:29.520 They're down to just nuclear dust
00:06:32.680 How are we
00:06:33.800 What's the
00:06:34.940 How are they still calling shots so to speak
00:06:38.060 And how are they even thinking that they're victorious
00:06:40.600 Because their drone and rocket
00:06:41.640 Programs are only about 50% depleted
00:06:44.800 You're correct about the Navy
00:06:46.320 You're correct about Air Force
00:06:47.840 And they're down to dust
00:06:48.960 If they're down to dust
00:06:50.720 Where are they getting all these rockets
00:06:51.900 Where are they getting the rockets
00:06:53.680 And the mid-range missiles
00:06:55.920 That they keep launching at people
00:06:57.500 So they may be crippled, but they've hidden enough in bunkers
00:07:02.620 and things that they can still keep launching stumps and cause problems.
00:07:06.740 Got it.
00:07:07.360 Adam.
00:07:08.620 Look, J.D. Vance is in a tough situation right here.
00:07:11.800 I mean, you know they say, like, it's only funny because it's true.
00:07:16.440 That whole situation, watch out, J.D., I'm going to blame it on you,
00:07:20.580 that whole thing.
00:07:21.800 Watch that turn out to be true because J.D. Vance is in a very tough
00:07:24.580 situation here because he basically has to defend a deal
00:07:27.300 that I'm not even sure if Trump really believes in this deal.
00:07:30.340 How can anybody trust what's going on in Iran?
00:07:33.720 I've basically boiled down what's going on to what I call the four M's in this Iran deal. 0.57
00:07:39.960 Number one is midterms.
00:07:41.500 Trump wanted to basically use this on his birthday at the UFC to basically say,
00:07:45.720 we have a deal. There's no deal. There's a memorandum of understanding.
00:07:48.980 But Trump is basically trying to salvage the midterms.
00:07:52.160 Number two, money.
00:07:53.300 we're basically bleeding them dry with the Hormuz but Trump because of midterms there's another M
00:07:59.820 basically wanted to sort of take the pedal off the metal and say look uh let's try to basically
00:08:05.040 salvage midterms and work out a deal with these guys the the next one is murder for M you're
00:08:11.800 negotiating with people who are willing to murder 30 40 50 100 000 of their own people
00:08:17.120 like that how do you negotiate with something like that they say never negotiate with terrorists
00:08:22.340 but uh the terrorists are typically willing to kill other people these people are willing to 0.51
00:08:27.440 kill their own people let's not forget that and the last m is muhammad respect to you respect to
00:08:34.240 different people's religions these people believe that they are sent from allah via muhammad to 0.99
00:08:40.420 take over the world with shia islam how are you going to negotiate out of that you ever negotiate 0.73
00:08:45.420 with somebody who's like i'm not moving my position i've dealt with people like that in 1.00
00:08:50.000 my life sometimes they're women sometimes they're business people but those people won't blow
00:08:54.300 themselves up for what they believe in this is what we're dealing with so jd vance good luck
00:09:00.080 salute to you for trying to make a a deal out there but it's going to be very tough to do yeah
00:09:06.160 so while this is going on and he's out there and by the way this is this is a big boy club hey see
00:09:12.580 if these people respect you or not see how they handle you see if your word carries weight because
00:09:17.840 do you know how you know if world leaders take you seriously think about it if you're a vp and
00:09:23.680 you go on the road how how do they take how do you know if they take you seriously how do they
00:09:28.920 know if they take you seriously if you saw trump when he did it the g7 everybody stopped everybody
00:09:33.540 no no no no hear me out no no wait you're a vp he was already a president i'm talking about what
00:09:39.040 trump i get but once you're a trump once you're president you're what you're the president i
00:09:43.500 I better give you respect when you're the guy.
00:09:45.040 What I'm saying is, how do you know when a VP enters the room
00:09:51.560 that everybody stops and reacts to you accordingly?
00:09:55.900 The way they react, what are they telling you to your face?
00:09:59.780 Do they respect you or they don't?
00:10:00.960 Why?
00:10:01.440 Why?
00:10:02.060 What are they telling you to your face if they don't respect you?
00:10:05.220 And what are they telling you to your face if they do respect you?
00:10:07.560 It's one thing.
00:10:08.100 If they do respect you, they think you may be the guy
00:10:10.400 and you may be back here as commander-in-chief.
00:10:12.780 That's exactly the point.
00:10:13.840 And that's it.
00:10:14.760 That's it.
00:10:15.560 If they respect you behind closed doors, every one of these guys has to know who are the three people that could be the next president.
00:10:23.760 And if you're going to be the next president, I better give you respect.
00:10:27.080 So the way they handle them is they don't think he's going to be the president next.
00:10:31.660 That's my impression.
00:10:33.000 The way they spoke to him, I don't think they're saying he's going to be the next president.
00:10:37.200 I think they're saying you have some work to do, maybe in 10 years,
00:10:41.360 but we think the next president is going to be Marco Rubio.
00:10:43.820 Because if Marco Rubio goes on the road, this is not what happens.
00:10:47.580 When Marco Rubio went on the road, now, you know, listen,
00:10:49.640 this is way too early to speculate and say anything.
00:10:52.600 J.D. has to be able to go here and command.
00:10:55.780 He has to go there and he has the, is it pizzazz?
00:10:59.040 Is that the word?
00:10:59.700 He has the panache.
00:11:01.740 He has the ability.
00:11:04.320 Presence and charisma.
00:11:05.220 Yeah, he has the ability to be tough.
00:11:08.060 He has it.
00:11:08.740 I think he needs to be a little bit more.
00:11:10.900 If they're doing a good cop, bad cop, he's trying to be a good cop.
00:11:13.560 I don't think he's the good cop.
00:11:14.620 I think the good cop is probably more Witkoff and Kushner.
00:11:17.660 That's their job because whoever's talking to the client the most,
00:11:20.640 that's who needs to be the good cop.
00:11:21.980 Whoever talks to the client the least, that's who needs to be the bad cop.
00:11:25.300 Guess who talks to the client the least?
00:11:27.060 Trump.
00:11:27.500 He's the bad cop.
00:11:28.460 Yeah.
00:11:28.900 Okay, so in this case, Kushner and Witkoff are going to be the good cop
00:11:31.620 and say, look, we don't want to piss off the boss.
00:11:33.660 But J.D. needs to go a little bit and also be a second representation of Trump
00:11:37.200 and show a little bit toughness.
00:11:38.700 So what are we doing?
00:11:39.880 We came here for no deal.
00:11:40.980 Is this what you're going to be doing?
00:11:41.920 You know what's going to happen next?
00:11:43.240 There needs to be a little bit of that because I see Rubio would do that,
00:11:48.360 and I think J.D. has it.
00:11:50.340 J.D. was in business.
00:11:52.160 J.D.'s been in many rooms with many business guys.
00:11:54.440 I want to see that come out a little bit, not just on podcasts,
00:11:58.260 but in those types of settings.
00:11:59.680 And I'm sure it's happening, so it's not like I'm next to him.
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