Valuetainment - May 15, 2025


"Start Your Own Party" - James Carville Lashes Out at Ilhan Omar as Democrat Infighting Escalates


Episode Stats

Length

20 minutes

Words per Minute

209.27611

Word Count

4,270

Sentence Count

407

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary

In this episode, the guys discuss James Carville's comments on the need for a white man to run against a woman in the 2020 Democratic primary, and why they don't think that's a good idea. They also discuss why they think a woman should be the next Democratic presidential candidate.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So James Carville, Democratic representative, call out Ilhan Omar, says party needs to praise
00:00:06.160 greatness of U.S. What does that mean? What does that mean that we need to praise U.S.?
00:00:11.160 Brandon, do you have the clip on that? Yes, I do. If you can play that clip,
00:00:15.460 go for it. Here's Carville. Why don't you just get out to Democratic Party? Honestly,
00:00:19.540 start your own move. Who's he talking about? All right, let's do a simple math. Probably
00:00:23.640 69%, I don't know, we could call Jim Gersena, Jim Guerin, roughly 69% of people going to vote in
00:00:30.380 November, maybe more. Let's do 70 for just round math, are going to be white. Of that, 48%,
00:00:37.180 maybe a little more, are going to be male. So that's roughly, let's just call it 33 and a third
00:00:43.440 percent of the entire election. Well, let's just run against them because that's so goddamn smart.
00:00:48.600 All right. So now we're going to have a campaign about a progressive left against white men
00:00:54.940 who vote about a third of everybody that votes in the election. Why don't you, lady, start your own
00:01:02.720 party? And then when it's over, if you want to caucus with the Democrats, fine. We agree with a lot of
00:01:09.060 things that you do, but we don't believe we ought to be running against white men. In fact, we don't
00:01:14.220 think we ought to be running against any gender, any ethnic group, any race, any religion or anything
00:01:19.440 else. Goddamn, these people are just helpless. They cannot be helped. There's nothing you can do
00:01:25.360 to help them. They don't want to be helped. And if they had any guts, they'd start their own
00:01:30.360 goddamn political party and get out of ours. Okay. So that's that. By the way, pause it and go back
00:01:36.260 to what Jasmine, Jasmine Crockett said. Did she say to who said it that we need a something,
00:01:41.200 something white man? Is that who said it? Jasmine Crockett. Do you have that one, Brandon?
00:01:45.120 Okay. Watch this here, folks. It is fear that the people within the party, within the primary system
00:01:51.380 will have about voting for a woman because every time we voted for a woman, we've lost so far.
00:01:59.620 And I think that that's a natural fear because we just want to win. So there's a lot of people that
00:02:04.700 are like, you know what? Like, let's go find the safest white boy we can find. I mean, I'm just saying.
00:02:09.400 Those are the callers that we're hearing. We're hearing people. No, for real. A white man's
00:02:12.880 got to do it. No, no, no, no. For real. And to be clear, when we talk about them, I can tell you
00:02:18.500 that there is one specific candidate. I had a donor on the phones with me telling me that all the
00:02:24.620 donors are lining up behind that candidate. So I can tell, and I tell you, it's not a black person
00:02:29.760 nor woman. Okay. So like, it is, they have, quote unquote, they have chosen. And when I say that,
00:02:35.160 I'll keep putting her in front of the camera, please. So two things, Carville, your thoughts
00:02:39.760 on that, Tom, and then we'll go to Crockett. Go ahead. Okay. Here's what I think is happening.
00:02:44.560 Trust them when they say, because trust that they're telling the truth. James Carville is saying,
00:02:50.400 we need to praise the greatness of USA, even though the core globalist, socialist, liberal Democrats
00:02:57.340 do not believe that. But he is telling them, we have to do this if we want to win.
00:03:02.140 Then listen to her, the core of the party. They have selected. Remember Pat's comments about arranged
00:03:08.440 marriage? Listen between the lines. She's admitting it right there. They have selected.
00:03:13.920 They have selected. There's this one white boy that they're all getting behind. I think it's J.B.
00:03:18.580 Pritzker because Gavin Newsom is going to be just nuked on California, left, right, and center
00:03:24.080 by his own competitors in the party. You can't even run your own state. Don't tell me what's
00:03:28.780 going on. Can you hear J.B. saying that? Yep. Can you hear Shapiro saying that? So guess what?
00:03:33.300 He's going to be battered and bruised. He's not the guy. I don't think Shapiro's the guy because
00:03:37.160 there's something below the surface there is why Shapiro didn't get chosen. We know about something.
00:03:41.580 We all know about that. There's something going on there. So guess what? I think it's J.B.
00:03:46.440 Pritzker. He's got the money. He can self-do it. He's got the unions. He's from the Midwest.
00:03:52.000 West. There's a lot of things going on. I think that's what she's talking about. But
00:03:55.560 this is not truth. They are running to a fake center. They are faking it to the center.
00:04:02.340 You know the old thing from Clinton? It says you've got to govern from the center. No.
00:04:05.980 These people are trying to run from the center and then they're going to govern from the left,
00:04:09.820 from the left socialists, and they're going to go after all this stuff. And they're telling
00:04:14.240 Ilhan Omar, hey, calm down, step back, sit down, get out of sight. Why are they saying this?
00:04:20.460 Because they're trying to run from the center. But America, it is a fake center. These are the
00:04:25.900 same globalists, the same socialists that are there. And what you're seeing right now is a few
00:04:30.860 of them. And by the way, you know who else is real smart about this? Van Jones. You know who else is
00:04:36.400 real smart about this? Bill Maher. And now listen to those voices. Stack them all side by side by side
00:04:41.400 and tell me what you think you're hearing. And they want Bernie and the freaks to go over and just hang
00:04:50.160 loose, stay in the closet. And then you, not that closet, you go stay in the other room. But when the
00:04:56.520 party starts, we're going to be governing from the left and we're going to destroy everything they
00:05:01.060 believe in. But we got to run to the right and stop right there in the center. When I say run to the
00:05:08.280 right of where we are, stop in the center, but it's a fake center. But, but, and Tom, notice how
00:05:12.960 she said, well, I mean, James Carver just sitting there, just old and white. And it's like, that's
00:05:17.080 the problem with the democratic party. That's who they have speaking for them. Beyond all of his
00:05:21.180 bluster, he gave numbers that he's right about. Yeah, no, he's right about the numbers. But then when
00:05:24.980 you go to her, she's talking about women and not, and not women. Look at the women that they're
00:05:29.260 putting up. Hillary Clinton, who's a freaking criminal. Let's not even get into her. Kamala Harris,
00:05:34.580 zero message, zero policy, has no idea what the hell she's doing. And then you have Jasmine
00:05:39.720 Crockett, the most hood rat, ratchet ass, like, like that's going to work. Like they didn't
00:05:44.460 learn that that shit doesn't work. All right, Tom. And you're talking about faking it at
00:05:48.240 the end of the day from the JB Pritzkers. Yes, he has the money. And yes, he's doing that
00:05:52.420 dog whistle to call for people to get in the streets and basically write and cause this
00:05:57.080 disruption. At the end of the day, guys, no matter who comes in, and I want nobody to be
00:06:02.120 fooled for the Democratic Party, every single thing that Trump is doing, they're going to
00:06:06.820 reverse. That needs to be every talking point of every debate is, are you going to open up
00:06:11.360 the border? Is that what you, because that's, that's the main thing to me is that's what
00:06:16.160 they're going to do. They're going to open the border. They're going to reverse every trade
00:06:18.880 deal. They're going to do, they're going to dismantle everything. And that's why we cannot
00:06:22.140 let them win. And just in, why are they doing it? Why? Trump's approval rating heading up
00:06:28.080 to the right. As soon as the sentiment of the market changes and the market's not everything,
00:06:31.880 we got all those things in China we already talked about. Yeah. But you see what's happening?
00:06:35.480 It's going up. Soon as things move a little bit, his approval rating moves a lot a bit.
00:06:40.420 Yes. And this freaks them out. And so they're like, guess what? This is what we have to do.
00:06:44.880 This is what we're fighting. This is just this morning. So he just pulled up something.
00:06:49.020 Brandon, can you go back to what you just pulled up? Vegas odds for 2028. Who's at the
00:06:52.760 top? Newsom? Yes. Go back to it. Where is it? So I saw Newsom at number one, surprisingly,
00:06:59.760 AOC number two and Pete Buttigieg three. Wow. So, so type in more markets to see if any other
00:07:05.840 names comes below it. Josh Shapiro is for a little bit. Look at Stephen A. Smith. Yeah,
00:07:10.460 he jumped up. Stephen A. Seven. Kamala is below Stephen A. Smith now. That is embarrassing.
00:07:17.440 Gretchen Whitmer, Wes Moore, Andy Bashar, J.B. Pritzker, Tim Waltz, Mark Cuban, Michelle Obama,
00:07:24.760 Corey Booker, I think. Pat, can I ask you one question? Yeah, for sure. You're a student
00:07:28.340 and a teacher of sales, public speaking, and a lot of things. We have courses that we sell
00:07:34.300 where you're teaching the world this. Put those people, this is just the perceptions in the
00:07:38.600 voting right now. Right. Put J.B. Pritzker and eight and the top eight of those people on stage
00:07:43.260 and what do you think happens? I think he does well. I think he does well. I do too. And I think a bunch
00:07:48.220 of these disappear. I think Gretchen Whitmer disappears. I think... I don't even know why
00:07:54.100 Kamala's on that list. I can't believe that. I think Mayor Pete disappears. Kamala isn't even
00:07:58.960 going to be on the stage. They're not going to let it happen. You think AOC will be on the stage?
00:08:02.520 I think... Well, I think AOC... If AOC is on the stage, if she's being allowed to be on the stage,
00:08:07.140 if she's non-volatile enough to be a VP candidate... If she's not volatile enough to be a VP candidate.
00:08:14.380 If she's non-volatile enough, like if she gets up on stage and says, whack, then I think what will
00:08:19.960 happen is they'll pull her back. But I think she's maturing. I think she's maturing as a politician.
00:08:25.480 I don't agree with her points, but I think she's maturing. I think she's moderating a little bit.
00:08:29.600 I think she's being coached, but I think she's formidable. And I think she would be there
00:08:34.280 merely to raise her profile to the voter, knowing that, look, she's only going to go three rounds in
00:08:41.180 this thing, and then these other people are going to... Adam, thoughts? So it's so obvious to me that
00:08:46.120 the Democratic Party as an establishment is moving on from straight white men. We don't need you.
00:08:52.580 We don't want you. We ain't here for you anymore. Is there any more clear of an example of James
00:08:59.180 Carville fighting with one of the new faces of the progressive left, Ilhan Omar, who's loudly and
00:09:05.900 proudly saying, out loud in America, that white men are the problem?
00:09:11.660 Threat, extremists.
00:09:12.800 Yeah. So, you know, it's so amazing to me that in America, Ilhan Omar can online and in real life
00:09:19.920 criticize the President of the United States. But in Somalia, where she's from, if she said
00:09:26.660 little Bo Peep about whoever the leader of the piracy of Somalia is these days, she'd be
00:09:33.660 goners. So she's out there singing about abortion and women's rights. They don't do that in Somalia.
00:09:40.880 No. So it's don't act what... don't do it as I... don't do as I say... I do as I do. She hasn't
00:09:46.500 lived this type of life, but she's using it to indoctrinate her people. You know what they call
00:09:50.720 the city that she runs in Minneapolis? Little Mogadishu. Just like in Miami, we have Little
00:09:55.660 Havana or Little Chinatown in San Francisco. Little Mogadishu. And watch out for what's going on
00:10:02.100 there. Now, Pat, you said one of your words that you were talking about for this year was signal
00:10:07.260 versus noise. In my opinion, this is just a whole bunch of noise. Because these women, these loud,
00:10:15.420 yappy women in the Democratic Party and also in the Republican Party, have what I would call no power.
00:10:22.040 So AOC probably has the most power. She's a representative. Let's set her aside. Ilhan Omar,
00:10:28.140 she's just a loud woman. Jasmine Crockett, a loud ghetto woman. Rashida Tlaib, a loud terrorist
00:10:34.880 woman. So they don't have power. What do you mean terrorist woman? She's a Palestinian Hamas
00:10:40.700 supporter. Straight up. They're not pro-America. Like, how many times do we need to see them
00:10:47.040 encourage people to basically burn down the flags? By the way, in terms of hierarchical order,
00:10:53.320 by the way, I could say the same thing from Marjorie Taylor Greene or Lauren Boebert,
00:10:56.820 how would I just make a lot of noise? But at least, you know, they love America.
00:11:00.580 So, you know, in a hierarchy of who has the most power, it goes representative,
00:11:06.500 mayor, senator, governor, president of the United States, in no particular order other than that.
00:11:13.100 I don't know if I put any mayor. It's mayor of a big city, I would say.
00:11:16.080 Okay. But the point is, a mayor of a big city has more power than any of these loud,
00:11:23.000 yappy women, with the exception of maybe AOC.
00:11:26.520 Here's David Hawke on Bill Maul. Go ahead.
00:11:28.760 Now, what I think happened last election is younger men, they would rather vote for somebody
00:11:32.820 who feels, who, even if they don't completely agree with, they don't feel judged by, than
00:11:36.980 somebody who they do agree with, that they feel like they have to walk on eggshells around
00:11:40.400 constantly because they're going to be judged or ostracized or excommunicated.
00:11:44.140 And what's interesting about this moment is it feels like the two parties in some senses
00:11:47.720 have flipped where, you know, Republicans used to be the judgmental assholes in many
00:11:51.760 ways. And since many Democrats, despite us, I would say for most of us coming from the
00:11:57.220 right place of wanting to do the right thing, we've created a culture where we say, well,
00:12:01.320 if you say the wrong thing, you're excommunicated. And that's just not how human beings work.
00:12:04.900 Nobody is perfect. But ultimately, what we have to do here is figure out how to bring people
00:12:09.280 back in and work towards the bigger goal of advancing the future of this country and helping
00:12:12.860 young people especially get by so that they're able to focus on their lives and, you know,
00:12:17.640 getting with a young woman or something like that, instead of how are they going to pay
00:12:20.840 their rent, for example, or how are they working their two jobs? Young people should be able
00:12:24.580 to focus on what young people should be focused on, which is how to get laid and how to go and
00:12:29.500 have fun.
00:12:32.180 So, by the way, fully agree with the guy makes a lot of sense. You know, he's you know where
00:12:42.660 he's from, by the way. He's from 15 minutes away in Parkland. So he was, I think, recently
00:12:48.000 voted in as co-chair of the DNC vice vice. But now he's speaking what I would call common
00:12:55.420 sense. And I literally think he's trying to be removed right now. They're trying to
00:12:59.600 remove. They're trying to remove. They them are trying to remove them. They them. Exactly.
00:13:03.320 So when you think of cancel culture and you think of identity politics, he basically just
00:13:07.460 called out the party. That is that is essentially the reason that the party is losing. And they
00:13:13.880 canceled him. Is that actual true story? The credentials committee of the DNC voted 13 to
00:13:20.920 to avoid the election results of February, in which Hogg and Pennsylvania State Rep Malcolm
00:13:25.520 Kenyatta D were elected to serve as co-vice chair of the DNC, according to the New York Times.
00:13:29.640 The vote comes as Hogg is reportedly planning to spend up to 20 million dollars to fund primary
00:13:34.800 campaigns against incumbent Democrats. They're going to eat their own, bro. This party is
00:13:39.400 so freaking lost. And David, bro, David Hogg, I mean, who, where'd he come from? Who, like,
00:13:45.480 what do you mean where'd he come from? No, I mean, like, he doesn't have no political background.
00:13:48.680 He was just, he was at the Parkland shooting. He was a survivor. God bless him. He survived.
00:13:51.920 I think he became president. Yeah, he went to Harvard. And he's one of the guys that wants
00:13:54.400 to take everybody's guns away from him. You should Google the amount of crazy. No, no, Adam,
00:13:58.700 it's a fact. The amount of stuff that he said about us and having guns and stuff. He ain't
00:14:02.720 the truth. And they're going to, he has no chance. I'm just going to put myself in his
00:14:05.620 shoes for a second. Just for a second. Yeah. If I saw, you know, a couple dozen of my classmates
00:14:11.140 die in front of me, I'd probably have some strong feelings about guns. Yeah. And take
00:14:15.940 them away from everybody. That's not what I'm saying. No, that's his attitude. I don't like
00:14:19.000 it. I'd like to see some quotes from him. I'm assuming he has a pretty strong position
00:14:23.140 on it because his roommate in class and his classmates got killed. So that would probably wake you
00:14:29.740 up just a little bit. Now I'm not advocating for taking away all guns. I'm not even sure
00:14:34.160 if that's his position, but I understand why he would feel that way. Do you not?
00:14:38.840 No, I understand. But what qualifications does that have to do to run a party, run a whole
00:14:44.320 democratic national? You talked about his thoughts on 2A. Don't you think if you have a couple
00:14:49.440 dozen of your friends die that might, in front of you, might sway your opinion just a little?
00:14:55.360 That's fine with the swing, but for you to say, we don't need, Americans don't need
00:14:59.820 any guns. Let's just take all the guns. Show me that quote. I have a problem with it.
00:15:02.400 Show me that. Look, we've seen this movie before, separate, what you guys are talking
00:15:06.540 about. It was called The Tea Party. It was called The Tea Party. The Tea Party said, we're
00:15:10.820 going to primary some of the guys in our own party, in the Republican Party, because we're
00:15:16.720 upset with you and we don't agree with you on this and this and this, and the Tea Party
00:15:19.740 was born. What he just said, you could just change that and take that back 20 years and
00:15:26.320 put another face on it, and that's what the Tea Party sounded like. This is not what we
00:15:31.500 want. This is not the party we envision. This is not what we're doing, and we're going to
00:15:34.400 primary them. And guess what? The Tea Party people get ostracized on the outside, too.
00:15:38.700 Well, now the Dems are saying, hang on, we can't have this guy taking money and primarying
00:15:43.880 some of our favorite players. No, that's not the way you do it, and that's what's happening
00:15:48.440 here. Well, Tom, very good point. The only sort of counterbalance I would say to that,
00:15:53.400 the Tea Party had conviction. I think they came to power over the national debt and our
00:15:59.400 budgets and our deficits. Well, I completely agree with the principles of it, but I'm saying
00:16:02.440 it's the same situation where people upsetting the establishment got, you're out of here.
00:16:10.020 The difference is this, is that what does the Democratic Party stand for at this point?
00:16:14.740 I used to vote Democrat. I look at them, I'm like, what are you doing for someone like
00:16:19.400 me? A normal, straight, white guy. They're kicking people like us out of the party. And
00:16:25.540 we're looking at the party now being like, who are these people? The Tea Party at least
00:16:29.940 had conviction. They wanted fiscal conservatism. Tell me what the Democratic Party, especially
00:16:34.740 the progressive left, stand for at this point. I agree with that 100%. Just basically TDS
00:16:38.580 and hating on Trump. If you say you're going to primary the establishment, this is what
00:16:43.800 happens. Adam, David Hogg once tweeted, you have no right to a gun. You are not a militia.
00:16:49.460 You have no right to a gun as an American. And did he tweet that? It's out there. He could
00:16:53.880 Google it. It's out there. I'm not lying to you. It's ChadGBT found it too. Adam, they're
00:16:59.660 going to eat him alive. He has no chance. Sorry. He's gone. The story just came out today
00:17:04.020 about him. Do you have any strong feelings on David Hogg and what's going on here with this
00:17:07.660 guy? No, I'm just watching these guys try to find each other, trying to find out what
00:17:12.300 they're going to be doing. And they're contradicting each other. They're going into different factions
00:17:17.740 and they're creating, they are so lost right now. It's not even funny. For me, it was easy.
00:17:23.360 The best thing you said is, what do you stand for? Tell me what you stand for. Not what you're
00:17:28.100 against, but what do you stand for? I don't even know what they stand for. I've asked the
00:17:32.140 question so many times, what is it you stand for? We've always been the less judgmental
00:17:37.080 party. Now we're the more judgmental party. That was actually a very good analysis on
00:17:40.140 how he broke it down. Because, you know, Republicans were Christians that were judgmental. You
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