"Stephen Miller Is Dennis Rodman" - Trump’s Loyal ENFORCER Gains Power
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Summary
Rob and Sarah discuss the role of Stephen Miller in the Trump administration and why they think he should be in the White House. They also talk about why they don't think he's a genius and why he's good at what he does.
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Kara Swisher says what she says about Stephen Miller.
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You know, I'm at the Pentagon yesterday in the Department of State.
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We literally got back 3.30 this morning, just so everybody knows.
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We came back here at 8 a.m. and we're doing a podcast here with you guys.
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Yesterday I'm talking to a bunch of different guys.
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And, you know, we're at the, what do you call it, Department of War and all these different places.
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And we're talking to Hexed yesterday, Kristi Noem, did a podcast with Rand Paul.
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Stephen Miller's name came up many, many times.
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To me, Stephen Miller is, to give the analogy of basketball, I said, in basketball, everybody needs a Dennis Rodman.
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He's the rage-baiting, you know, poking you, tapping you in the butt, irritating you.
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He's talking to a professor and accidentally realizes he used to teach Stephen Miller.
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Look at the response on what he says about Stephen Miller.
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The Stephen Miller and the Trump administration?
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Did you want to say a little bit more about that before we listen to this clip?
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He said that, I asked him in 2003 what he wanted to be when he grew up, and he said, I want
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And I said, oh, when do you want to achieve that?
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Okay, well, who would be the president in 2003?
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You could have told, I mean, I do a lot of homework here, Hein.
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You could have told me this before the program.
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See, this is the part that they don't want to talk about.
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This guy, Stephen Miller, you know, they can say whatever they want to say about the Stephen Miller guy.
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But that professor right there, you think they're probably on the same page politically?
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You think that guy and the professor are on the same page politically?
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Because that's what that podcast is about, is bringing this guy up as context of what the podcaster already believes.
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Look, it's not about saying Stephen Miller is stupid or he's a genius.
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The fact that he's a number two guy to Hitler type of a comparison.
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It doesn't create any chance of better outcomes.
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I think the only mistake with Miller, Miller is not a front guy.
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But Miller's messaging, his demeanor, his style, I don't think helps the president.
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Strategically, tactically, philosophically, if he's helpful to the president, that's the president's choice.
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The only tweak I would do is, and now some on the left will criticize me and say, no, we need to hear him.
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I think that one mistake that Trump has made thus far, except for Levitt, Levitt is a good communicator for him.
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He is better than all of his guys at making the case for him.
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Levitt is the best of his people, but Trump is so much better than all of his people.
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And that wasn't always true for presidents, you know.
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That what you see with ICE now and the realignment that probably is going to come to pass, that's Trump doing it.
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He had to say, well, we're saying the wrong things, we're doing the wrong things.
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He is not being well served by the people around him.
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Stephen Miller, strategically, they are very happy with.
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Bannon says the same thing, which is weird because they're not buddies.
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But having him as a front person, I think, is complicated.
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Because I first saw Stephen Miller, and I didn't realize I was seeing him.
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He fearlessly stepped up to the microphone and said that the case against his fellow classmates on Duke Lacrosse,
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But he stepped up to the microphone and made a very cogent legal analysis and sat there and said, this is wrong.
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And that's where America met Stephen Miller, standing up for his classmates.
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Do you know who blew that case wide open and proved that it was a false prosecution?
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We proved that things didn't happen when they said.
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And, of course, Crystal Mangum, who was the accuser, wound up admitting it.
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The woman who was with her wound up admitting it long before.
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It was a con, and it was done by a local prosecutor, in part,
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who wanted to make a name for going after the rich kids and impress his working class community.
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I wish he would come on, you know, to be tested and come on.
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And that's unfortunate, because I want to give people an opportunity to make this.
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You know who you should have on, though, is if he won't come on with,
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you should have on his wife, Katie Miller, who has this massive podcast now,
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But I'll tell you one thing about Stephen Miller.
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But I do want to get back to Pat's point when he's talking about Kara Swisher.
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Stephen Miller has arguably been the most loyal person since day one.
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You know, the whole Trump was right about everything.
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That is being, like, humanized in the human form with Stephen Miller.
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PBD made the most important point about the, if you don't set the tone or set an example
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with Don Lemon, oh, you have no idea the floodgates that will open in mosques, in churches, in temples.
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By the way, good luck getting in synagogues these days because they've learned the hard way that you need to have
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armed security guards and fences because people will go shoot up the joint.
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The last thing we need are political agitators coming in front of churches and mosques and doing basically what Vinny's upset about.
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What Kara Swisher said, last point, about how he's the Heinrich Hitler, the number two to Hitler, is so disgusting to me
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It's inflammatory and bombastic, and it's just not even wrong.
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I told the story about my friend's grandma who basically told the story.
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She's the only person alive in her whole family, much less her town.
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And we're talking about two people that got in the way of authorities.
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There's a game coming up called Super Bowl, right?
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And Seattle is going up against New England Patriots.
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And it's so funny because we can go through a whole different conversation with New England, with Bill Belichick.
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Maybe we'll do that all the way at the end because I'm sure we all have some opinions on Bill Belichick not making it into the Hall of Fame.
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And Tom Brady said, if I have to come back and play with only one coach, I'm not picking anybody else but Bill Belichick.
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And the guy didn't make it, and three other coaches were first ballot Hall of Famers, but this guy didn't.
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