Valuetainment - July 11, 2025


＂Still Talking About Epstein？＂ - Trump’s Epstein Client List Response INFURIATES Americans


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In this episode, Pat and Rob discuss the President's response to a question about Jeffrey Epstein and the possibility that he may have worked for a foreign intelligence agency, and why a minute went missing from the Senate Assassination Testimony.

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00:00:00.000 Let's play the clip of the president when he's being asked about Epstein.
00:00:03.940 Let's go to that clip.
00:00:04.760 So here's the president.
00:00:06.400 After everything's already been released, after the greatest fumble of all time,
00:00:10.040 he's being asked about Epstein, and this is his response and Pam Bondi's response.
00:00:14.720 And look, a lot of people have a problem with this response.
00:00:16.860 Go ahead.
00:00:17.740 Jeffrey Epstein, it left some lingering mysteries.
00:00:21.020 One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for an American or foreign intelligence agency.
00:00:27.280 The former Labor Secretary, who was Miami U.S. Attorney, Alex Costa,
00:00:33.760 he allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency.
00:00:37.480 So could you resolve whether or not he did?
00:00:39.580 And also, could you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of the Senate?
00:00:43.840 Yeah, sure.
00:00:44.500 If I could...
00:00:44.880 Hey, Pam, could I just interrupt for a little second?
00:00:46.180 Sure.
00:00:46.200 Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
00:00:50.160 This guy's been talked about for years.
00:00:52.640 You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things.
00:00:56.620 And are people still talking about this guy, this creep?
00:01:01.620 That is unbelievable.
00:01:04.520 Do you want to waste the time?
00:01:05.780 Do you feel like answering?
00:01:07.180 I don't mind answering.
00:01:08.480 I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this
00:01:12.080 where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas.
00:01:18.860 It just seems like a desecration.
00:01:21.900 But you go ahead.
00:01:22.840 Sure, sure.
00:01:24.120 First, to back up on that, in February, I did an interview on Fox,
00:01:27.960 and it's been getting a lot of attention because I said I was asked a question about the client list.
00:01:34.740 And my response was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed,
00:01:39.720 meaning the file along with the JFK, MLK files as well.
00:01:46.620 That's what I meant by that.
00:01:48.460 Also, to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein.
00:01:56.260 Child porn is what they were. 0.99
00:01:57.880 Never going to be released.
00:01:59.140 Never going to see the light of day.
00:02:00.520 To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that.
00:02:04.080 We can get back to you on that.
00:02:06.120 And the minute missing from the video, we released the video showing definitively,
00:02:12.920 the video was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide.
00:02:21.800 And what was on that, there was a minute that was off the counter.
00:02:25.700 And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year, every night, they redo that video.
00:02:31.880 It was old from like 1999.
00:02:33.600 So every night, the video is reset.
00:02:36.460 And every night should have the same minute missing.
00:02:39.380 Who believes that answer?
00:02:41.920 First of all, look at Mark Rubio.
00:02:43.500 He looks like a freaking hostage.
00:02:44.660 Jake just messaged me.
00:02:45.560 He looks so stuck in the middle.
00:02:47.560 Do you believe that?
00:02:48.480 Do you have any questions about Libya?
00:02:49.560 Are we still talking about it?
00:02:52.080 As if you don't think Donald Trump, the sitting president, is not listening to the news
00:02:56.420 and seeing how much they fumbled this entire thing, it's unbelievable.
00:03:01.320 It's unbelievable, Pat.
00:03:03.180 And I did a little bit of research when they were trying to say that there's no client list.
00:03:07.900 There's no evidence.
00:03:08.760 There's no...
00:03:09.040 Do you know...
00:03:10.200 Do you remember Jess Staley?
00:03:13.080 Do you remember that guy?
00:03:15.020 Rob, you remember this guy, right?
00:03:16.640 He was...
00:03:17.280 So, Pat, if you don't mind.
00:03:17.980 While Epstein was already a convicted pedophile, okay, and he was on work release in Palm Beach,
00:03:24.000 a federal lawsuit with U.S. Virginia Islands against J.P. Morgan.
00:03:27.800 Remember the lawsuit they got?
00:03:29.260 By the way, they settled J.P. Morgan $75 million in 2003, and then $290 million they settled
00:03:35.460 with the Epstein victims that same year for $290 million.
00:03:40.240 So, the lawsuit claims that a private banker, Jess Staley, kept in contact and visited Epstein's
00:03:47.080 Palm Beach mansion and the Virgin Islands multiple times, even when Epstein was in jail, all right?
00:03:52.020 And the lawsuit states that between 2008 and 2012, Staley exchanged 1,200 emails with Epstein
00:03:57.560 from his J.P.
00:03:58.580 Morgan account like an idiot.
00:03:59.920 And the lawsuit, they said that these communications showed a close personal relationship and a
00:04:04.860 profound friendship between the two guys.
00:04:06.780 And Epstein, this is where the client list comes in.
00:04:10.360 He sent them photos of young women, and in 2010, Staley replied with creepy Disney codes.
00:04:15.200 Rob, can you go to that?
00:04:16.460 He literally says, maybe they're tracking you.
00:04:19.100 Say hi to Snow White.
00:04:20.540 And Epstein follows with, what character would you like next?
00:04:23.880 Okay?
00:04:24.160 And then Staley says, beauty and the beast.
00:04:26.500 And Epstein responds, well, one side is available.
00:04:29.500 Okay?
00:04:29.720 That's not banter.
00:04:31.140 That's sex trafficking, lingo, and plain sight.
00:04:33.780 Okay?
00:04:33.960 And the worst part, the date stamps on those emails line up with the money that Epstein sent
00:04:38.200 from his J.P.
00:04:39.460 Morgan account to the same girl.
00:04:41.300 Okay?
00:04:41.580 So that's your paper trail.
00:04:42.880 I'm sick of them coming out there, and even to get to the president to say, why are you
00:04:46.860 guys still talking about it?
00:04:48.000 Why are you talking about it?
00:04:48.900 You know why?
00:04:49.580 Because the proof is there, and there's victims.
00:04:52.920 That's what drives me crazy, Pat.
00:04:53.980 You see the body language.
00:04:55.060 What about all the girls?
00:04:56.400 What about all the young boys?
00:04:57.400 And not just the Virginia Goofreys who, God rest their souls, died. 0.98
00:05:01.080 What about the ones, Pat, that we'll never hear from?
00:05:03.520 We have, in four years, 300,000, 350,000 kids missing.
00:05:07.420 I totally believe that the majority of these people that they hooked up with, they kill
00:05:10.860 them.
00:05:11.460 What are they going to do?
00:05:12.660 Rape and molest all these kids and just let them walk? 1.00
00:05:15.520 No.
00:05:15.980 They have to get rid of them.
00:05:17.080 They have to.
00:05:17.900 That proves the Jess Staley thing that there was a freaking kindness. 1.00
00:05:21.400 So don't tell me you can't build a case.
00:05:23.600 Don't lie to us.
00:05:25.360 Acosta, Alex Acosta said, Pat.
00:05:27.540 The guy worked for intelligence.
00:05:29.720 He worked for intelligence.
00:05:30.720 If it was CIA and with Mossad, okay?
00:05:34.280 Okay.
00:05:34.920 So let's play devil's advocate.
00:05:36.260 If Epstein worked for Mossad and the whole thing was a blackmail from the start, who's
00:05:39.660 holding all the cards?
00:05:40.840 If Mossad set up a ring to record underage kids getting sex traffic, to have sex with
00:05:47.040 powerful people, who's holding the cards, Tom?
00:05:50.260 Mossad.
00:05:51.140 Mossad.
00:05:51.640 And the CIA.
00:05:52.120 So that means these people were okay with kids getting trafficked and sexed and raped
00:05:57.180 for power, for power moves.
00:05:59.640 I am not comfortable with that.
00:06:01.460 When people go, well, it's, you know, that's how the world works and that's a battle.
00:06:05.680 Bullshit.
00:06:06.440 Because nobody gives a shit about the kids.
00:06:07.920 One point that concerns me, there's no client list, but we've seen pictures with redaction
00:06:13.820 and fuzziness of flight logs.
00:06:16.580 Lots and lots of flight logs over a span of years.
00:06:20.480 So, okay, there wasn't a client list, but there sure as hell was a guest list because
00:06:24.480 we know who was coming and going on the flight logs.
00:06:26.620 And so, okay, so he didn't have clients, but he sure had a lot of guests or visitors, pick
00:06:31.840 a word you like, that were there.
00:06:34.320 Why were they there?
00:06:35.500 And then we have J.P.
00:06:37.000 Morgan.
00:06:37.580 And forget about this guy, J.P.
00:06:38.920 Morgan.
00:06:39.220 Not forget about him.
00:06:39.720 Just daily.
00:06:40.280 You can't forget about him.
00:06:40.760 Put him to the side.
00:06:41.280 But let's just set it for a side a second.
00:06:42.940 How hard did J.P.
00:06:44.020 Morgan work to get its name out of the headlines and get away from this?
00:06:46.680 Quick, settled, quick.
00:06:47.880 Let's settle this.
00:06:49.020 Let's get our bank's name out of this and let's get on with life, which is what I would
00:06:53.500 do if I was head of the bank and saying, what the hell are we doing here?
00:06:55.960 Well, sir, there could have been laundering.
00:06:57.740 There could have been this, could have been that.
00:06:58.960 Okay, guys, we need to get out from under this.
00:07:01.260 We need to get out under it quick.
00:07:03.020 So even assuming that people at the top of J.P.
00:07:06.260 Morgan, let's assume they were like, oh, my gosh, apparently there's some dirtiness here.
00:07:10.940 There's some, you know, unseemly things.
00:07:12.900 We want to get away from this.
00:07:14.340 J.P.
00:07:14.700 Morgan sure ran fast. 0.93
00:07:16.200 So I want to know about flight logs equals guest list equals visitors.
00:07:21.120 Okay, so there's no client list, but there is that.
00:07:23.880 Why were all those people on the island?
00:07:25.800 And there's plenty of other evidence to it.
00:07:27.940 By the way, here's Dan Bongino on Tim Pool.
00:07:31.520 I don't know if you guys have seen this clip or not.
00:07:33.160 Was this before he got in?
00:07:34.200 This was before he got in.
00:07:35.200 And this is him talking about what happens one time when he's in the waiting room at Fox News.
00:07:39.860 Go ahead, Rob.
00:07:40.280 Play this clip.
00:07:40.820 I'll let him tell the story.
00:07:41.740 Go ahead.
00:07:42.000 About a year and a half after that, I'm in a green room at Fox, and I'm not going to say who because they didn't give me permission to share it, but the short story, but not who they are.
00:07:51.660 He says, you know Epstein's an intelligence asset for people in the Middle East, right?
00:07:56.380 I'm like, no, I didn't know that.
00:07:57.740 I'm like, you sure that the person, let's say, is like, I'm absolutely sure that that he's either a witting or unwitting asset intelligence asset, meaning his plane and that island, the cameras.
00:08:11.820 There's a big assumption out there that these videotapes were exclusively in the custody of Epstein.
00:08:17.140 That's a huge mistake.
00:08:19.360 The reason they wanted this story to go away is because there's an assumption like, oh, yeah, Epstein had him.
00:08:25.820 No, he wasn't the only one who had him, according to this source.
00:08:29.580 These assets, that's why this blackmail story makes so much sense.
00:08:33.000 Which Middle Eastern countries they are, I don't know.
00:08:35.120 But this person, who is a very, very good reporter, I mean, aces, right, swore Epstein was either a witting or unwitting intelligence asset, and they may have had his plane wired up, and they're the ones who have all this stuff.
00:08:47.540 So the point is, to sum it up, how do you know some of these countries aren't going to some of these power players who aren't making decisions?
00:08:55.060 Hey, he wouldn't want this video out there, right?
00:08:57.880 How do you know?
00:08:58.880 100%.
00:08:59.320 I mean, let's get perfect.
00:09:02.280 Thoughts?
00:09:02.680 So, I have a question for Vinny.
00:09:06.060 Why do you think people are so obsessed with this story?
00:09:10.000 And I'm not underplaying the story at all.
00:09:11.800 I mean, I love what PBD had to say on Jesse the other day about how the Trump administration has sort of fumbled the ball on this one because we're hearing all different things.
00:09:22.360 Bongino says one thing, and he gets into office.
00:09:24.420 He says another thing.
00:09:25.620 Kash Patel shouting at the rooftops, Pam Bondi.
00:09:28.260 But, you know, do I think he was an intelligence asset?
00:09:32.320 Yeah.
00:09:32.680 Probably.
00:09:33.840 Do I think he was doing something with the CIA, FBI, Mossad?
00:09:38.360 They're even talking about KGB.
00:09:40.400 This guy was everywhere.
00:09:42.400 So, why are people so obsessed with this story?
00:09:47.020 Like, what are you hoping to find exactly?
00:09:49.740 Okay.
00:09:50.220 I think, and I'll speak for everybody.
00:09:52.540 This is a genuine question because a lot of people are very preoccupied with this.
00:09:55.660 I think people like me, and I think a lot of people, especially the people that have been backing Trump who we were promised results, we are not comfortable with any, anybody having a sex trafficking ring that has control over all of these politicians, over all these celebrities, out of all these singers.
00:10:14.380 Adam, it doesn't sit well if decisions are being made from our government or from another government.
00:10:21.200 Okay.
00:10:21.720 Okay.
00:10:21.840 If he did work with Mossad, imagine this, Adam, imagine you're a congressman, you're a president, you're whoever, you're an actor, and you were there.
00:10:31.260 And then this country, let's say Israel says, hey, listen, we want you to say X, Y, and Z. 0.57
00:10:35.820 And you go, I ain't saying shit.
00:10:37.300 I'm not backing this, I'm not doing that.
00:10:39.000 And they go, oh, really?
00:10:40.160 Check your email.
00:10:41.000 And you open the email, and it's an encrypted video of you hooking up with an underage kid.
00:10:45.280 Then guess what happens?
00:10:46.400 They own you. 0.84
00:10:47.440 So, imagine policies, rules, laws being made by that.
00:10:50.900 That's number one, Adam.
00:10:51.860 Number two, we were promised, if you weren't going to do it, shut the hell up.
00:10:56.200 All of you, from the top to the bottom, stop bullshitting us.
00:11:00.280 Okay, we're not stupid.
00:11:02.100 The average American, you know how they try to make MAGA people, we're stupid hicks from down south.
00:11:06.000 We're not stupid.
00:11:07.140 We all know the truth.
00:11:08.580 Okay?
00:11:09.080 He fucking worked, sorry for my language, he worked for intelligence.
00:11:12.600 They said he worked for intelligence.
00:11:14.340 We all know who he worked for.
00:11:15.700 Let's stop playing the games.
00:11:16.700 And then they lied.
00:11:17.580 If you weren't going to do it, don't say it.
00:11:19.660 And Pan Bondi, don't sit in a restaurant and talk that shit, and then go on the lawn, White House lawn, and say you have it, and then lie to us as if we're stupid.
00:11:27.720 As if we're stupid, Adam.
00:11:29.340 And the third one is the kids, which should be number one.
00:11:33.460 These kids are either dead, or they're ruined for the rest of their lives, Adam.
00:11:38.120 That's what it comes down to.
00:11:39.760 And I'm not, yeah, I am obsessed with it, but I'm not going to let it go.
00:11:43.660 And I implore everybody.
00:11:45.060 Guys, this is going to be a story, just like JFK, just like everything, just like the Russian collusion, just like freaking COVID.
00:11:51.280 We're going to forget about it.
00:11:52.600 And it's just not right, Adam.
00:11:53.800 We're being leveraged by other countries.
00:11:57.520 Could it be Mossad?
00:11:58.720 Could it be MI6?
00:12:00.280 Could it be KGB?
00:12:01.240 No, bro.
00:12:01.840 We have to have accountability to know.
00:12:04.160 Because, Adam, if we don't stop it now, it's going to keep happening, plain and simple.
00:12:07.840 That's it.
00:12:08.280 That's why I'm obsessed with it.
00:12:09.200 I totally appreciate your perspective and why you get completely emotional, especially on the child sex trafficking thing.
00:12:16.620 I think, as I've said before, there's things that matter, and there's things that you can control.
00:12:22.700 And where I tend to focus is where those two things intersect.
00:12:26.560 And I know we have a big platform, so we have the ability to have these types of conversations.
00:12:29.700 In my opinion, there's a lot of people that are obsessed with this, that they have zero control over this.
00:12:38.440 And these are the types of people, in my opinion, that a lot of these people are what I would call losers, or as what Andrew Tate described as brokies. 1.00
00:12:48.880 And they're fat, they're broke, they're losers, they can't get this, they can't get that.
00:12:52.800 They're struggling with work, they're struggling with relationships, they have nothing going on in their life.
00:12:57.160 But this shiny little object, they are obsessed with.
00:13:01.100 And I'm not deflecting, I'm not saying it's unimportant.
00:13:04.200 I'm just saying, like, I don't wake up every day and be like, I gotta get them Epstein logs, bro.
00:13:08.760 Or I can't live my life the way I want to live it.
00:13:11.340 It's like, no.
00:13:12.380 I want to get stuff done, I want to look my best, I want to feel my best, I want to make my money, I want to be with my family, I want to be with my friends, I want to hang out with my nephew.
00:13:18.540 I have so many things on my agenda, that I'm not like, I gotta get them flight logs, bro.
00:13:24.500 I gotta know.
00:13:25.200 And I'm not saying that that's how you operate, but I think there's a lot of losers and brokies that are obsessed with stuff like this. 0.56
00:13:33.000 These are the same people that instead of going home and working out and building a business and doing things with their life, they're Netflix and chilling.
00:13:41.340 Or they're just doom scrolling all day.
00:13:43.600 And there's so many people that I think are obsessed with things that they have no control over.
00:13:48.040 I get it, but I get where you're coming from, but Adam, that guy that's drinking Mountain Dew in his trailer and sitting there who's an American patriot that pays his taxes and has kids and a family, Adam, he wants to know if the government that he's living under is controlled by foreign countries because they have tapes of them raping fucking underage kids.
00:14:10.040 I don't, Adam, it's not a shiny little thing.
00:14:12.740 No, Adam, I don't think that.
00:14:13.680 It's not a shiny little thing in the air.
00:14:14.740 And they're not stupid.
00:14:15.860 Everything you were right.
00:14:17.300 Everything you said is accurate.
00:14:18.560 They're not stupid.
00:14:18.760 Other than the word controlled.
00:14:21.060 They are controlled.
00:14:21.720 The intelligence community.
00:14:23.120 Adam.
00:14:23.360 I don't know anything about this.
00:14:24.700 Adam.
00:14:25.080 They communicate.
00:14:26.520 You didn't hear the C guy from yesterday?
00:14:28.620 Adam.
00:14:29.000 Think about this.
00:14:29.740 Adam.
00:14:29.940 If you are comfortable with Mossad, which is Israel, or Russia, or anybody, their blackmail ring, their operation.
00:14:39.400 Think about this, Adam.
00:14:40.300 Would you be comfortable as a country going, you know what?
00:14:43.300 Epstein's our guy.
00:14:44.240 We own him.
00:14:45.280 Lex Wester, all this money, he's a billionaire.
00:14:46.880 Let's wire everything.
00:14:48.540 Bring everybody there to have sex with underage kids because it's the island and whatever. 1.00
00:14:51.480 And we're going to use that to get what we want.
00:14:54.600 CIA, Mossad, anybody.
00:14:56.800 How disgusting and evil.
00:14:59.660 If you really think about that.
00:15:00.920 Step back from who it is.
00:15:02.240 I don't give a shit who it is, Adam.
00:15:03.500 If that is your operation, holy shit, you are one of the most evil, disgusting unit operation, period.
00:15:12.320 And for those little people, Adam, the ones that you think are stupid that are sitting there, they don't just want the flight logs.
00:15:17.140 They want everybody that's involved to fucking go down.
00:15:20.840 Period.
00:15:22.220 Accountability.
00:15:22.760 It's simple.
00:15:23.400 One word, Adam.
00:15:24.300 Just like the Brennan and Comey thing.
00:15:25.900 Nothing's going to happen to them.
00:15:27.340 Nothing.
00:15:27.680 Because Republicans go, we're investigating.
00:15:29.820 Nothing is going to happen.
00:15:31.020 That's the sad thing.
00:15:31.880 Same thing with Fauci.
00:15:32.720 Vinny, are you okay?
00:15:33.660 No, I am.
00:15:34.180 It's bullshit, Adam.
00:15:35.200 It's bullshit.
00:15:35.960 I'm with you.
00:15:36.800 It's bullshit.
00:15:36.920 And I want to understand the frustration and the anger.
00:15:39.720 It is.
00:15:40.340 How many more times do I have to say it, Adam?
00:15:42.460 Does anybody get in trouble?
00:15:43.700 Do you believe Epstein?
00:15:44.740 Do you believe Epstein was running a blackmail ring?
00:15:47.280 Do you think that there's no client list?
00:15:48.920 Let me ask this question.
00:15:49.940 Come on.
00:15:50.300 Between Brennan and Comey.
00:15:55.280 Between Fauci.
00:15:57.380 Between Fauci, you know, what they did with COVID and, you know, all the ties to Wuhan
00:16:04.820 lab.
00:16:05.880 Between Epstein.
00:16:07.560 Between Kennedy.
00:16:08.800 John F. Kennedy assassination.
00:16:10.100 MLK assassination.
00:16:11.280 9-11.
00:16:11.980 What happened to 9-11?
00:16:13.480 Which of those is most important to you?
00:16:16.020 Wow.
00:16:16.320 Great freaking question.
00:16:18.000 I think it's this one.
00:16:19.440 Okay.
00:16:19.700 I think it's this, Pat.
00:16:20.440 I think it's Epstein.
00:16:21.980 Great question.
00:16:22.880 I think assassinating a president, killing a sitting shooting.
00:16:27.120 What's your number one?
00:16:27.720 Number one is Epstein?
00:16:29.140 Me, personally, it's Epstein, JFK, and COVID.
00:16:32.640 I mean, that's a fantastic question, Pat, because they're all right there.
00:16:37.140 Which was most important to you, Tom?
00:16:39.660 It's COVID and Fauci because it was full population control.
00:16:43.860 Everything else is just lies.
00:16:45.060 Got it.
00:16:46.720 So that's number one for you.
00:16:48.140 How about yours?
00:16:48.940 I mean, if you put that list together between 9-11, COVID, Epstein, MLK, JFK, all these things.
00:16:55.940 Yeah.
00:16:56.300 To me, it's not even close, bro.
00:16:58.580 It's COVID.
00:16:59.900 And it's not even close.
00:17:00.940 How many trillions of dollars was printed?
00:17:02.620 How many lives were lost?
00:17:04.320 How many people had to be locked down?
00:17:06.320 Yeah.
00:17:06.560 To me, this is sort of the whole signal versus noise.
00:17:09.420 Preach it.
00:17:09.940 I understand why people are obsessed with Epstein.
00:17:12.340 I get it.
00:17:12.900 But to me, it's just a whole lot of noise, and there's not a lot of signal.
00:17:18.660 Ah!
00:17:19.040 Ah!
00:17:19.360 Ah!
00:17:19.720 It's like, all right, yeah.
00:17:20.780 Can we stay focused on the fact that the Wuhan lab that was in Wuhan when there was a lab leak
00:17:26.220 and basically took over the world?
00:17:27.820 Yeah, I get what you're saying.
00:17:28.060 Let me tell you what.
00:17:28.460 Like, that is way more important than Epstein.
00:17:30.760 I posted something on Twitter yesterday, and here's what it was.
00:17:33.540 A quote, if you can go to it, Rob.
00:17:36.320 To offend a strong man, tell him a lie.
00:17:40.400 To offend a weak man, tell him the truth.
00:17:44.660 Marcus Aurelius.
00:17:45.600 Let me read it again.
00:17:46.940 Is that Elon Musk on the bottom?
00:17:48.060 Elon's right there with a bullseye.
00:17:49.260 He gave you a bullseye.
00:17:50.200 Go a little bit higher.
00:17:51.060 Thanks for the shout-out, Elon.
00:17:51.800 Go back to the PBD.
00:17:52.440 So to offend a strong man, tell him a lie.
00:17:55.600 To offend a weak man, tell him the truth.
00:17:57.420 Marcus Aurelius.
00:17:58.960 To me, this is at the top.
00:18:02.200 I don't even care what the issue is.
00:18:04.580 Don't go out there telling me you're going to be doing this and you don't.
00:18:07.820 And I'm telling you, a part of this, you know, we've, as an operator, as somebody that
00:18:14.300 has ran a business for quite some time, oh my God, we've had some fumbles.
00:18:18.420 We've had some fumbles that are super embarrassing.
00:18:21.620 Let me tell you.
00:18:22.780 Super embarrassing as the operator at the top that it was your fault, okay, that we
00:18:27.940 had to have our act together.
00:18:29.380 And we've screwed up many times.
00:18:30.940 I'll take the blame for it as a CEO.
00:18:33.100 But you know, typically when it was, when a part of it is you can say it's your fault,
00:18:39.980 it's not your fault.
00:18:40.900 Some can't even in your camp say, well, Pat, we couldn't have done anything better than
00:18:43.760 that at all.
00:18:44.220 This other stuff, I'm always trying to find a way to see if we could have done it better.
00:18:47.660 The only reason why I think this fumble is this big of a fumble, and I'm truly trying
00:18:52.300 to understand why, is because they're trying to do in six months where Biden couldn't do
00:19:00.340 in two terms.
00:19:01.240 The amount of things that they're trying to accomplish in six months, no president in
00:19:08.500 the history has been able to try to, has been, has even tackled is the word.
00:19:13.040 So what happens when you do that, when you try to tackle so many things at the same
00:19:18.100 time, you're going to have a couple massive fumbles.
00:19:24.340 And I think that's what happened here.
00:19:26.240 Because it's like, all right, African president, yeah, so what's going on? 0.94
00:19:30.300 So what are you going to do?
00:19:31.280 And Zelensky, what are you going to do?
00:19:33.120 And so tariffs, what are you going to do?
00:19:34.940 And tariffs, okay, we're going to go get, you know, what's it called?
00:19:40.440 We're going to go get a Panama Canal.
00:19:43.700 We're going to go do this.
00:19:45.080 No, we're going to go negotiate a peace deal with Russia, Ukraine.
00:19:48.340 No, we're going to go do ICE and deport.
00:19:50.240 No, no, we're going to go do this with the taxes, the big, beautiful bill, the Elon Musk,
00:19:53.900 the Doge.
00:19:55.140 If I make a list of the amount of things they've tackled for the first six months, no one in
00:19:59.520 the right mind is going to say that's the right strategy.
00:20:01.940 So when you go trying to do all of that at the same time, you end up not communicating
00:20:10.700 the messaging to be on the same page.
00:20:13.340 And you know what you don't pay attention to?
00:20:15.000 A bunch of guys send me a message.
00:20:16.360 You know, when I go on, I always know if I'm on Hannity, Ingram, or whatever show I'm
00:20:19.980 on, Jesse, who texts me afterwards, right?
00:20:23.460 The weirdest people text me saying, hey, we're also on the same page, but they say great
00:20:27.720 messaging on what you said about, you know, the, what do you call it?
00:20:31.320 The Epstein thing.
00:20:33.080 You could tell these guys didn't communicate with each other.
00:20:36.840 You could tell.
00:20:38.220 Sometimes you don't think it's that important to the person.
00:20:40.660 Like I remember one time we're changing our health insurance policy.
00:20:43.240 This is 12 years ago.
00:20:44.660 Tom, you may remember.
00:20:45.680 Yeah, you'll remember this.
00:20:46.520 We're in Texas.
00:20:47.140 We just moved in Addison.
00:20:48.900 Oh, no, we could have been in Glendale.
00:20:50.260 I mean, guys, Merle can remind me of this.
00:20:52.820 And one of the policies had to do with pregnancy.
00:20:56.860 Okay.
00:20:57.240 So we're going to go from one insurance company to another insurance company.
00:21:00.420 And in every way, it looks better, except if you're trying to have kids.
00:21:04.760 And if you're trying to have kids, it was what?
00:21:06.960 It was a hefty expense.
00:21:09.220 Of course.
00:21:09.640 But if you're not trying to have kids, it's an awesome move to make to the other health
00:21:12.960 insurance.
00:21:13.300 So I'm like, all right, good.
00:21:14.080 Here's what we're going to be doing.
00:21:15.400 And then all of a sudden, one person comes.
00:21:17.660 Another person comes.
00:21:18.460 I'm like, no, guys, this is important.
00:21:21.380 Time out.
00:21:22.100 Step back.
00:21:22.660 We can't move the health insurance away.
00:21:24.740 What is really in this thing?
00:21:25.920 Why are so many people coming up to me?
00:21:27.620 This is a matter we have to look at.
00:21:28.840 This is they can't afford to pay $5,000 out of their pocket to do pregnancy or delivery.
00:21:33.380 No, let's not move the insurance.
00:21:34.800 Let's go look at this here.
00:21:36.140 This is one of those things that they thought it wasn't that big of a deal.
00:21:38.860 Let's say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:39.540 We're going to.
00:21:39.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:40.380 Oh, but let's get in there. 0.80
00:21:41.160 We're not going to do shit.
00:21:42.280 And it's, oh, shit.
00:21:43.820 It backfired.
00:21:44.600 With who?
00:21:45.740 With a lot of the younger audience that is involved on X.
00:21:49.500 And it was the number one trending thing on X for a couple of days.
00:21:53.160 Two million people talking about it nonstop.
00:21:54.980 So to me, the biggest thing with this is you overpromise, you underdelivered, and it hurts you.
00:22:03.000 But as a person who's a businessman and who also tries to be a father, who also tries to be a husband,
00:22:10.860 who also tries to be a son, who also tries to be a good man,
00:22:14.240 and you put a lot of weight on your shoulder at the same time, you're going to screw some of it up.
00:22:19.720 And I think this is, like I think about it for myself, what I have going on, times a thousand.
00:22:26.500 And every decision you make is scrutinized.
00:22:29.460 That's what they're going through right now.
00:22:31.280 And the only people know what it is to be there, it's them.
00:22:33.940 So you can act all tough and everybody says, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:22:37.360 Time out.
00:22:38.320 Nobody walks on water.
00:22:39.680 You've effed up.
00:22:40.820 You've screwed up.
00:22:41.540 They got so much shit and pressure right now.
00:22:44.640 I just think they have to be a little bit more like, you need to step back and have a handful of project managers
00:22:49.680 and say, guys, we can't do this again.
00:22:52.320 Moving forward, what can we do to have messaging in the right place and prioritize issues?
00:22:56.800 Because we're breaking some shit right now.
00:22:58.820 We can't be doing this.
00:23:00.260 They need some good project managers who can get people to communicate with each other.
00:23:05.000 This is a big fumble.
00:23:07.440 So anyways, do you agree with Trump on his response?
00:23:11.640 No, I don't.
00:23:12.500 No, but hear me out.
00:23:13.780 Not the way that this team handled it.
00:23:15.940 No, I don't.
00:23:16.940 Let me ask the question.
00:23:17.800 I know what you're going to ask.
00:23:18.620 Do I like his response that there's all these other things going on right now?
00:23:21.380 No, I don't agree.
00:23:22.320 I fully agree.
00:23:23.020 I fully disagree with you.
00:23:24.320 But let me tell you why.
00:23:25.500 Yeah.
00:23:26.180 It's his fault.
00:23:28.940 It's his fault, bro.
00:23:30.080 And this is a supporter.
00:23:31.920 This is a guy that I'm sitting here for a year and a half talking to you guys.
00:23:34.740 You guys were all team DeSantis and I'm team Trump and I'm the one that's going one against
00:23:38.520 three every freaking week.
00:23:40.480 This is a guy that supports this guy.
00:23:42.900 It's an F-up.
00:23:44.540 Period.
00:23:45.940 Then don't have all your people on your administration talk about it.
00:23:49.560 They're going to release it.
00:23:51.320 You're the leader.
00:23:52.560 No, I don't support it.
00:23:54.880 I don't think it's the right move.
00:23:56.740 I understand you're overwhelmed.
00:23:58.580 Trust me, I sympathize.
00:24:00.540 I understand.
00:24:01.740 Imagine how many grandkids he has.
00:24:03.360 When's the last time he saw them?
00:24:05.200 The way he's working, driving.
00:24:06.960 When's the last time he has dinner with his wife?
00:24:08.580 When's the last time he's like, what do you think his life looks like right now?
00:24:10.620 From morning till night, everyone's talking shit and he's trying to do all these other 0.81
00:24:13.740 things for America.
00:24:14.860 It's not an easy job.
00:24:16.140 But at the same time, this was a wound for a lot of people that mattered to them.
00:24:20.540 We could have handled it in a different way.
00:24:22.420 So I get there's other issues.
00:24:24.360 I get it.
00:24:24.840 When there's people dying in Texas, when there's all this, I get it.
00:24:28.100 But this has been a massive issue for many years that people thought we're finally getting
00:24:32.860 to the bottom of it.
00:24:33.980 So it's been building up for a decade and a half since 2010.
00:24:38.040 We've known this guy's been a piece of shit for many years.
00:24:40.320 Yep.
00:24:40.440 So, no, I get what you're saying.
00:24:43.980 I've given my argument on where I'm at with this, but I think this was a fumble.
00:24:48.500 I just, they need more project managers.
00:24:50.900 Sometimes the most important people in an organization are the people you never hear about who are
00:24:54.820 phenomenal PMs that get everybody that needs to communicate with each other to communicate
00:24:58.080 with each other.
00:24:59.040 Those people need to get more recognition.
00:25:00.660 They need to hire some PMs.
00:25:02.000 They don't need recognition.
00:25:03.200 You need more better PMs.
00:25:04.320 I guarantee you, Susie Wiles, who is a PM, is sitting there saying this was a fumble.
00:25:09.040 I just learned something today.
00:25:10.320 A PM is a project manager.
00:25:12.040 And Pat, just really, Pat, I know you want to go to the next story.
00:25:13.800 How crazy is it that the government effs up so bad with us that the assassination, the
00:25:18.580 shooting of a sitting president by the CIA and Lyndon B. Johnson is third?
00:25:23.020 Holy, we're in bad shape.
00:25:25.000 In your mind.
00:25:25.740 Well, you said COVID's won in yours.
00:25:27.360 Oh, COVID, because it's recent and ruined the world.
00:25:28.960 I'm just saying top three.
00:25:29.860 That's a great, but I just think people are very obsessed with this, rightfully so, but
00:25:34.340 I don't think it does.
00:25:35.560 You caused it.
00:25:36.480 You caused it.
00:25:37.740 You caused it.
00:25:38.060 Which topic is most important to you?
00:25:39.640 To our audience, Epstein's and Mossad's CIA ties is number one.
00:25:43.740 Wow.
00:25:43.940 More than COVID.
00:25:46.160 I got to tell you, there's some losers out there. 0.99
00:25:48.000 No, that's because they're forgetting.
00:25:50.460 Because they're forgetting, though.
00:25:51.860 Because it's times gone by.
00:25:53.820 And the Epstein thing is present.
00:25:55.360 This is not a real assessment.
00:25:57.380 Trust me.
00:25:57.860 And even I'm telling the audience, this is not a true assessment.
00:26:01.300 This is going to be changing in two years where it's no longer an issue that we come
00:26:06.280 back, you're going to choose Fauci or other things over it.
00:26:10.160 Trust me.
00:26:11.120 That Fauci COVID thing stopped the world.
00:26:13.760 The Epstein didn't stop the world.
00:26:15.080 Yeah, exactly.
00:26:15.540 The Fauci COVID thing stopped your kids growing.
00:26:18.700 The Epstein-Massad thing didn't do anything to your kids.
00:26:20.580 That's my point.
00:26:21.400 No, I'm with you.
00:26:22.280 But I also understand their reasoning because it's emotional today.
00:26:25.760 Well, they're losers.
00:26:26.280 Yeah, you can call them that.
00:26:28.120 And when they see you in the streets, Adam, they're not going to be happy with your merch.
00:26:31.580 Until I see you in the street, you losers.
00:26:32.600 You know what?
00:26:33.180 Let's do a test.
00:26:34.300 Here's a test for you guys.
00:26:35.120 No, no.
00:26:35.520 Don't do it right now, Pat.
00:26:36.840 This is the worst rollout ever.
00:26:38.520 Are you serious?
00:26:39.240 When I call them losers, then you're going to, hey, guys.
00:26:41.740 No, don't.
00:26:42.880 Don't throw me.
00:26:43.760 I'm kidding, guys.
00:26:44.820 That's it.
00:26:45.060 Adam's address is in the comments.
00:26:46.300 I love you.
00:26:46.800 I love you.
00:26:47.380 We have a goal of a million people wearing the Future Looks Bright gear.
00:26:50.920 The brand's becoming more and more recognizable.
00:26:53.800 Very excited about what's going on.
00:26:55.660 So what we're announcing today, I don't know if you're aware of this, this category that
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00:27:02.960 That's a buy one, get one free.
00:27:05.220 You buy one at $34.99, you get the second one for free, Rob, if you can go to it so the
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00:27:19.800 Rob, does the video work on the other side?
00:27:21.580 Yes.
00:27:22.020 Can you go to that one to show some of the hats?
00:27:24.180 These are the hats that are in the category of it.
00:27:26.420 The PBD Podcast, you got the Valuetainment logo one.
00:27:28.980 That's sick.
00:27:29.600 The OG one, blue, keep going. 0.99
00:27:32.180 Black PBD Podcast, keep going, keep going.
00:27:35.860 The red one.
00:27:36.480 That one's sick. 0.93
00:27:37.280 Yeah, the U.S. flag.
00:27:38.560 These are future looks bright.
00:27:40.780 Red one, keep going.
00:27:42.960 Military Camel, the black on black.
00:27:45.540 There's a blue one that looks, the blue one, we don't have a lot left.
00:27:48.620 The blue one's going to go very quickly.
00:27:50.140 I shouldn't have said that.
00:27:51.500 There you go.
00:27:51.920 The pink ones that also, every time people ask about the pink ones, they disappear.
00:27:55.660 Keep going.
00:27:56.540 That's a sick one.
00:27:57.640 Yeah, that's the blue one.
00:27:58.600 That's the one.
00:27:58.820 That's the blue one.
00:27:59.620 Keep going.
00:28:00.260 What's it called?
00:28:00.820 Royal?
00:28:01.000 Not royal.
00:28:01.360 I think it's like a royal blue-ish.
00:28:04.100 But the idea is buy one, get one free.
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