Valuetainment - July 14, 2025


＂Suicide Bombers Are Soldiers＂ - NYC Mayor BLASTS Mamdani Family’s SHOCKING Pro-Terrorist Stance

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Patrick Bet-David
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Zoran Mamdani Andrew Yang Ground Zero Bill Ackman Maura Mill
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In this episode, we talk about the upcoming primary election between Zoran Mamdani and Corey Booker, the Democratic candidates for mayor of New York City. We discuss the differences between the two candidates and what they could do to the city if they win the election.

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00:00:00.000 If Mamdani wins, okay, this is a big if, but let's just say if Mamdani wins.
00:00:05.200 And by the way, formidable guy.
00:00:07.260 People cannot just think it's not going to happen.
00:00:09.160 Like, you know, sometimes in elections, you know how people say,
00:00:13.140 oh, we have, it's a slam dunk, it's going to be done.
00:00:15.320 I'm like, wait a minute, what?
00:00:16.920 The guy won?
00:00:17.580 Yes, he did.
00:00:18.780 If Mamdani wins, what happens to New York City? 0.97
00:00:24.220 Well, first of all, and I agree with you about slam dunks,
00:00:27.300 because Andrew Yang was walking around with a tape measure,
00:00:31.140 measuring the drapes of City Hall.
00:00:33.000 He just knew he was going to be the mayor.
00:00:35.140 I knew differently because I know this city.
00:00:37.380 And I think that if his policies are put in place, if his policies are put in place,
00:00:42.620 and no matter who a candidate is, if you have those policies that are put in place,
00:00:49.020 you're going to hurt small business.
00:00:51.520 That's a real issue with our small businesses.
00:00:53.540 We have 700,000 small landlords.
00:00:57.900 It's going to hurt them if they can never raise rent,
00:01:02.240 although rent rolls are not meeting the repair.
00:01:04.860 And it's going to hurt poorer communities because buildings are going to fall into disrepair.
00:01:09.600 We saw this before in the 70s and 80s when rent rolls were not reaching what it cost to run a building.
00:01:17.820 It's going to hurt public safety, defunding police.
00:01:20.740 He just announced the other day he's not going to send police officers to respond to domestic violence issues.
00:01:27.640 Officer Maura and Rivera, two officers that died in the beginning of my administration,
00:01:32.900 they were going to a domestic violence call.
00:01:36.720 One of the most dangerous calls a police officer can go on is a domestic violence call.
00:01:42.300 You send civilians there, you are putting their lives in jeopardy.
00:01:46.600 It hurts public safety to empty out Rikers Island where you have some of the most dangerous criminals that are there.
00:01:53.360 If they're on Rikers Island, when you look at many of his projects that he's put in place,
00:02:01.240 the policies are going to hurt New Yorkers, and it's going to hurt low-income New Yorkers,
00:02:08.060 working-class New Yorkers, those who he stayed, he represent.
00:02:11.200 Did you see this young lady who was a former AOC?
00:02:16.100 Oh, my God.
00:02:17.180 Rob, do you have that clip?
00:02:18.280 I would just love for the audience to see this.
00:02:20.980 Do you know who she is or you don't know who she is?
00:02:22.640 No, I don't.
00:02:22.740 Okay, play this clip, Rob.
00:02:23.900 Go for it.
00:02:24.620 So New York City just nominated this guy, Zoran Mamdani,
00:02:29.000 who is a socialist, to represent them for the mayor's election.
00:02:32.680 And I, if I was 25, I would be obsessed with Zoran.
00:02:36.180 When I was 25, I was actually 26, 27, I helped get AOC elected.
00:02:41.220 I made a video for her campaign that went super viral.
00:02:43.760 I met her a ton of times, and I was a huge AOC person.
00:02:47.140 Now I'm 35, and like every stereotypical person I've grown up,
00:02:50.680 and I've learned that these feel-good politics of promising free food,
00:02:54.980 free college, free apartments, like you get free, you get free, you get free.
00:02:58.700 It feels so good.
00:02:59.880 You feel, as a young person, when your frontal lobe is not fully developed,
00:03:03.200 and you're thinking more in black and white, that this is going to be good, right?
00:03:07.380 You're indoctrinated as a young person in America to believe that capitalism is bad
00:03:12.080 and all your problems are because of these evil business owners.
00:03:14.680 But I have to warn young people who are caught up in the Mamdani vibe 1.00
00:03:18.720 is that the road to hell is paved with good intentions,
00:03:21.460 and we've seen time and time again in countries and cities
00:03:24.800 that adopt these socialist programs is that the rich people
00:03:27.580 who are going to pay for them are going to leave because of high taxes,
00:03:31.140 and then we just get more taxes and less for it.
00:03:35.620 And one example of this on a smaller scale is in New York in 2019,
00:03:39.140 there was a law that was passed by the State House, all Democrats,
00:03:43.360 to pause rent stabilization on, sorry, to pause rent hikes
00:03:47.840 on rent-stabilized departments so they could no longer rent hike.
00:03:51.700 So say, for example, an apartment is rent-stabilized.
00:03:54.460 It's had the same tenant since the 1970s.
00:03:56.680 It comes up for rent.
00:03:57.820 Landlords, because of this law, can only raise the rent by 2%.
00:04:01.820 So say in 1970, someone was paying $200 a month.
00:04:05.740 You're now going to be paying $220 a month in 2025.
00:04:08.140 But the problem is that rent-stabilized apartment needs to be renovated
00:04:11.660 and brought up to 2025 code.
00:04:13.400 So because of this law, what's happened is now there are tens of thousands
00:04:16.360 of empty apartments in New York that are rent-stabilized
00:04:19.660 that the landlords are not renovating because they know they cannot make their money back
00:04:23.580 if they renovate them.
00:04:24.660 And again, these landlords are not, like, evil people.
00:04:26.700 And when you're indoctrinated into this sort of leftist, oppressor, oppressed mindset,
00:04:31.380 you think, like, business owners are evil.
00:04:33.400 They're not.
00:04:34.540 Many of them are small businesses.
00:04:35.880 You know, they're working on a margin.
00:04:37.940 And so it's not affordable for them to...
00:04:41.240 How do you...
00:04:41.880 Powerful, powerful...
00:04:43.200 Seriously, yeah.
00:04:43.740 Yes, it is.
00:04:44.880 Because idealism collides with realism.
00:04:49.380 Running a city is realism.
00:04:51.660 And we should be ideal.
00:04:53.840 We should have hope.
00:04:54.480 We should think about, you know, positivity of the future.
00:04:57.500 And that's what we believe in.
00:04:59.300 But running a city, you have to make tough choices.
00:05:02.600 And if you start saying a small property owner, $700,000 we have in our city,
00:05:07.140 that you could never raise the rent,
00:05:09.220 what happens is working-class people will see the quality of their housing go down.
00:05:16.800 We did this before, you know, where you had landlords walking away from their property,
00:05:22.480 creating terrible environments.
00:05:25.020 And so what she just stated is that we should all remain optimistic.
00:05:28.880 We should all have hope.
00:05:30.100 We should all, you know, want great things, you know.
00:05:33.040 But I lived in poverty.
00:05:34.420 I didn't study it in a school.
00:05:36.120 You know, and academic leaders that never experienced Miss Mill cramps don't really know what it's like.
00:05:42.500 And so just think about your journey, you know, they're looking at you now.
00:05:45.680 Everybody's looking at you right now.
00:05:47.280 This is your glory.
00:05:48.680 It's not your story.
00:05:50.180 It's not your story.
00:05:51.700 And when people see just your glory and don't realize your story,
00:05:56.140 growing up dyslexic was painful for me, undiagnosed until I got to college.
00:06:01.180 You know, growing up on the verge of homelessness, of, you know, my mom used to give us,
00:06:05.580 we used to line up at the door.
00:06:06.760 It was six plastic bags full of clothing, change of clothing for the day
00:06:12.120 because she thought we were going to come home and we were going to be thrown out.
00:06:15.160 I used to turn that corner and my stomach would have butterflies in it
00:06:19.440 because I would be humiliated when the marshals were out there. 0.87
00:06:22.260 And any time I saw a U-Haul truck on the block, I was like, darn it, they're throwing us out. 0.88
00:06:28.080 That makes you think about what people are going through.
00:06:31.180 And so when you live the luxury life, the reason he thinks about giving everything away for free
00:06:37.320 is because he got everything for free.
00:06:39.380 Was he raised with a silver spoon in his mouth?
00:06:41.620 Yes.
00:06:42.000 And I was an actress.
00:06:44.780 His dad was an academic person.
00:06:49.440 This academic elitism is not how you run a city.
00:06:53.400 And I think she pointed it out well.
00:06:55.720 Her story.
00:06:56.560 Oh, absolutely.
00:06:57.860 She would be somebody I'd bring on the team if I was you.
00:07:00.280 I'd find out who it is and I would, matter of fact, maybe reach out to them.
00:07:03.660 Get a hold of the camp and speak with them.
00:07:06.080 In regards to Mamdani and New York.
00:07:09.860 So New York City, 9-11, a day we'll never forget, right?
00:07:13.080 Yes.
00:07:13.500 You definitely won't forget because you...
00:07:15.340 I was a lieutenant at the time.
00:07:17.580 You were a lieutenant at the time?
00:07:19.060 Yes, yes.
00:07:19.880 And my brother was a sergeant.
00:07:21.620 I went down to Ground Zero that night and that was a sight that really tore us apart.
00:07:28.560 You know?
00:07:28.720 It was one of those days that we'll never forget for the rest of our lives.
00:07:35.000 Here's Bill Ackman posting something about Mamdani's father.
00:07:39.480 Okay?
00:07:39.680 And he says, Zohran Mamdani, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
00:07:44.660 Okay?
00:07:46.180 These are words from his father, a current professor at Columbia.
00:07:50.880 Okay?
00:07:51.100 A school he tried to go to where on his application he said he's African American, black, and Asian.
00:07:56.100 Okay?
00:07:57.020 Rob, if you can click on the picture so I can just read it.
00:08:00.060 Clearly the prime objective of suicide bombers is not to terminate his or her own life, but that of others defined as enemies.
00:08:07.060 We need to recognize the suicide bomber, first and foremost, as a category of soldier.
00:08:12.020 Does not the suicide bomber join both aspects of our humanity, particularly as it has been fashioned by political modernity in that we are willing to subordinate life, both our own and that of others?
00:08:26.040 Two objectives we consider higher than life.
00:08:29.280 Suicide bombing needs to be understood as a feature of modern political violence rather than stigmatized as a mark of barbarism.
00:08:37.920 The danger of moral discussion of itself, how can any culture condone suicide, is that it quickly turns into a replay of culture talk, stereotyping, et cetera, et cetera.
00:08:47.660 You read this.
00:08:48.460 Yes.
00:08:48.780 It's kind of interesting.
00:08:49.740 How do you process this?
00:08:50.560 Well, and I think that's what's important in this election, because you and I both know that there are difference of opinions, how people view life and how they see life.
00:09:03.060 Sure.
00:09:04.700 And your difference of opinion doesn't make you good or bad.
00:09:09.440 It's just we think differently.
00:09:13.120 I don't support that.
00:09:14.380 And the reason I don't support it doesn't mean there's not going to be others that support it.
00:09:19.980 But the question we need to ask as New Yorkers right now, does the majority of New Yorkers support that?
00:09:28.360 Or does the majority of New Yorkers believe suicide bombings are terrorists, that Hamas is a terrorist group, that not calling or stating global infidata is wrong?
00:09:44.380 That's where we are right now.
00:09:46.080 Do we support the police or we don't support law enforcement?
00:09:49.480 Do we want people to commit crimes to serve their time or do we want to let them out on the street?
00:09:54.060 Do we want our high-income earners to stay here, to pay their taxes, to help with our city, or we don't?
00:10:00.100 So we're just going to—that's the beauty of running against him.
00:10:04.700 There's no gray areas.
00:10:05.940 You know, I'm just going to lay out my case for the future of the city to continue to create opportunities for working-class people in a safe environment.
00:10:15.860 I'm going to lay out the case.
00:10:17.180 And New Yorkers are going to have to make the determination.
00:10:19.700 Nine percent stated what they want.
00:10:22.580 Now we're going to find out what the other 91 percent want.
00:10:25.340 This is very serious because 9-11, when it happened, it happened to, you know, some call New York City the greatest city in the world.
00:10:31.880 Yes.
00:10:32.300 When that happened.
00:10:33.100 Devastating when we saw this.
00:10:34.120 So do we want the father of the son that may be the mayor of the city to speak like this to make it seem like it's not a big deal?
00:10:40.360 I don't know.
00:10:40.940 I think this is concerning.
00:10:41.920 And when he said about cops just five years ago in a tweet, June of 2020, he tweeted saying, we don't need an investigation to know that the NYPD is racist, anti-queer, and a major threat to public safety.
00:10:54.640 What we need to do is defund the NYPD.
00:10:56.980 This is that candidate, just so you know.
00:10:59.820 Yes.
00:10:59.960 That's what he said, New York, if you're watching this.
00:11:03.000 But your deal with New York mayor uses budget tricks to keep as many cops as possible.
00:11:08.060 No to fake cuts.
00:11:09.340 Defund the police.
00:11:10.120 That's the guy.
00:11:10.700 That's five years ago.
00:11:11.360 You don't change a lot.
00:11:13.300 You change in 10 years.
00:11:14.600 You change in 20 years.
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