Valuetainment - ＂TD Jakes Is A Feel-Good Preacher＂ - Charleston White UNLOADS On Black Megachurches & ATM Sermons

00:00:00.000 T.D. Jakes is in Dallas, right?

00:00:01.240 Have you ever done anything with him?

00:00:02.140 What do you think about T.D. Jakes?

00:00:04.600 T.D. Jakes is for his church.

00:00:06.180 He's not for the community.

00:00:08.280 He's for his church, not meaning members of his church.

00:00:10.840 No, he means the Potter's House.

00:00:13.280 Right.

00:00:13.880 Meaning a member.

00:00:15.580 He's for his church.

00:00:16.700 That's his business.

00:00:18.200 He's not for Dallas.

00:00:19.460 We don't see him nowhere doing nothing.

00:00:20.940 His church or nothing.

00:00:21.640 Now, they got a prison reentry, but that's for the grant funding for his business.

00:00:26.640 Do you think he's a net positive to Dallas?

00:00:29.000 No.

00:00:29.560 To the black community.

00:00:30.520 No.

00:00:30.840 T.D. Jakes.

00:00:31.580 No.

00:00:32.360 What do we do other than preach a good message?

00:00:34.860 To make our mothers feel good.

00:00:36.340 Only come back home and still drink wine and feel better.

00:00:40.340 Playing a pussy with a rose to feel even more better. 0.99

00:00:43.040 So all he is is a feel-good preacher.

00:00:46.920 Nah, man.

00:00:47.920 The Bible says what you do for the least of those. 0.99

00:00:49.980 I don't see no preacher, no church really doing for the least of those other than the poor churches that's amongst the least of those.

00:00:55.300 You cannot take your big, beautiful church, build it out on the hill away from the people and think you can still reach the people.

00:01:03.720 They can't walk to that church.

00:01:05.720 And matter of fact, this church is so extravagant.

00:01:08.340 It's ATM machines all over this motherfucker.

00:01:11.060 And when it's time to pay tithes, poor people are excluded out of the black church.

00:01:15.380 What do you mean?

00:01:16.100 They're excluded.

00:01:17.000 The preacher make you feel like if you ain't got a soda seat, who got a soda seat?

00:01:20.440 They make you feel like if you ain't got no money, Gil.

00:01:22.460 God don't need my money.

00:01:25.960 He need my confessions.

00:01:29.160 So, yeah, now the black church is full of shit. 1.00

00:01:31.640 They go for T.D. Jakes, all of them. 0.58

00:01:33.320 What do you mean by Creflo?

00:01:34.540 Full of shit.

00:01:35.420 Obsolete to the black people. 1.00

00:01:36.700 Right.

00:01:37.380 They have an audience like I got an audience.

00:01:40.260 If I lose a page, my audience come follow me like they're following.

00:01:43.640 They're not for the community.

00:01:45.160 I started from the community and developed a following.

00:01:48.160 You don't think T.D. Jakes is a net positive to community still like, you know.

00:01:52.760 He preached.

00:01:53.520 What does?

00:01:54.080 How is a preacher?

00:01:55.080 How is a preacher?

00:01:55.940 Go back to what you said earlier when you said hip hop or the movies would come to the

00:02:00.640 bad communities and it would convert.

00:02:02.100 So what if somebody doesn't live in Dallas and they live in Kansas, they live in New York,

00:02:06.300 they live in Arkansas, they live in London, and they watch him, they're like, they just

00:02:10.920 like the way he delivers his message.

00:02:12.560 Isn't that a net positive?

00:02:13.680 No.

00:02:14.220 Tell me why.

00:02:15.140 What does it do?

00:02:15.820 It make you feel good for the moment.

00:02:18.160 It makes, so, so church make you feel good for whatever, hey, hallelujah, pastor.

00:02:22.900 You go back to the same problems, same conditions, and most people's lives don't transform.

00:02:29.400 You don't think people make decisions when they give their life?

00:02:32.440 No.

00:02:32.600 When they get baptized?

00:02:33.820 I think when people give their life to God, they going through something, they dealing

00:02:36.920 with something, soon as shit get back right, they sneaking and having unmarital sticks, 0.99

00:02:40.660 they still getting drunk, they still masturbating, they still watching poor. 0.62

00:02:43.360 I think everybody is full of shit when it comes to God because you're going to do something

00:02:46.440 against God every day.

00:02:47.240 Stop trying to be perfect.

00:02:47.880 Do you believe in God?

00:02:48.600 Yeah, I do.

00:02:49.500 But I ain't trying to live for God.

00:02:51.340 God gave me a choice of free will.

00:02:53.020 I don't want to be a godly man.

00:02:54.720 You don't want to be a godly man.

00:02:55.360 I want to fuck a bunch of women. 1.00

00:02:57.260 So you made that decision.

00:02:58.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:59.400 I get God on the deathbed.

00:03:01.040 But right now, I'm living for me.

00:03:02.420 Fuck God.

00:03:03.860 I believe in him.

00:03:04.740 I get the same blessings if I believe or if I don't.

00:03:07.840 The sun shines on the bad just like the rain fall on the good.

00:03:15.140 Good things happen to bad people like bad things happen to good people.

00:03:18.760 God ain't got nothing to do with that.

00:03:19.900 You think this is the right example on the way to live your life because you're saying

00:03:24.460 you want to do net positive?

00:03:25.600 Man, listen, you live your life.

00:03:27.760 No, I'm not saying.

00:03:28.360 No, no, no.

00:03:28.760 Those are two different things.

00:03:29.640 No, no, let me say.

00:03:30.240 Yes, I think it's the right message.

00:03:31.660 Tell me why.

00:03:32.180 Because can't nobody dictate to you about your life.

00:03:34.680 God gave it to you.

00:03:35.480 No, no.

00:03:35.780 That's not what I'm saying, though.

00:03:36.820 That's not what I'm saying.

00:03:37.400 You're right.

00:03:38.440 You can do whatever you want to do.

00:03:40.240 I don't think God is real.

00:03:41.600 I think God is questionable.

00:03:42.680 Well, then that's a different conversation.

00:03:44.220 You just told me you said God is real.

00:03:45.760 Then you changed it.

00:03:46.360 I said I believe in God based on what my mother said.

00:03:49.340 But you don't believe God is real.

00:03:50.400 I've read Revelation and I read Genesis.

00:03:53.540 Now I don't believe God is real because I just told you about children being sex trafficked.

00:03:58.260 Where is God for them?

00:03:59.200 By who, though?

00:03:59.560 By who?

00:04:00.200 By whoever.

00:04:00.960 I don't know.

00:04:01.660 By the people.

00:04:02.780 By what people?

00:04:04.220 By the people.

00:04:05.080 The government?

00:04:05.860 Whoever.

00:04:06.460 So if God is real, why he don't stop those people?

00:04:09.180 If God is real.

00:04:10.040 If he gave free will to a guy like you.

00:04:10.800 Okay, okay, okay.

00:04:11.560 So that's why I don't think God is real.

00:04:13.240 Because if God is real, why hadn't white people suffered for what they did to slavery? 0.77

00:04:17.960 If God is really real.

00:04:18.620 So then for you, you're, so you're conflicted.

00:04:21.720 No, I'm not conflicted.

00:04:22.680 I don't believe people know God to tell me God is really real.

00:04:25.460 No, I'm not.

00:04:26.000 So no, I, originally you said you believe.

00:04:28.540 I believe in God.

00:04:29.680 That don't mean I think he real.

00:04:31.700 I believe in the boogeyman.

00:04:33.360 I don't think he's real.

00:04:35.000 I believe in ghosts, the spirit.

00:04:36.700 I don't know they're real.

00:04:37.380 So do you have, do you have faith?

00:04:38.440 No, I ain't got, I got faith in me.

00:04:40.160 You got faith in you.

00:04:40.800 Because everything I heard about faith, I think is bullshit.

00:04:43.000 So let me tell you, who is the biggest man in your life that let you down?

00:04:46.460 No.

00:04:47.220 No man's ever let you down.

00:04:48.980 I've never been connected to a man.

00:04:51.460 Father.

00:04:52.120 Never been connected to him to be let down.

00:04:53.700 Did you ever meet him?

00:04:54.480 Never.

00:04:55.180 So that's the biggest let down.

00:04:56.260 That's not a let down.

00:04:57.060 We never met him.

00:04:57.860 I had uncles and granddaddies to replace that let down.

00:05:00.300 You don't even know it's there.

00:05:01.260 But there's different names than a father.

00:05:02.420 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, listen, listen.

00:05:03.340 Out of sight is really out of mind.

00:05:05.280 There are many kids who father's gone and another replacement have stepped in and filled

00:05:10.980 the void of a father.

00:05:12.060 There's a different thing.

00:05:12.820 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:05:13.740 Man, listen, if you've never seen your daddy, you don't have attachment to it.

00:05:16.680 That's bullshit.

00:05:17.000 Yeah, but that's a different story.

00:05:18.440 That's a childhood abandonment.

00:05:19.980 That's a childhood abandonment issue that you hold in secretly.

00:05:22.920 That don't affect you as a disappointment.

00:05:24.900 You never expected nothing to be disappointed.

00:05:26.820 No, no, no, not as a, so I'm listening to you.

00:05:29.160 And it's, it's not your fault.

00:05:30.860 I'm not sitting here saying anything that.

00:05:32.420 Man, I don't give a damn what you're saying.

00:05:33.800 I'm telling you, I ain't never been connected to a man to be, listen, listen, I had a granddaddy.

00:05:37.880 I had an uncle who kept me with him.

00:05:39.880 I don't know that's not my daddy.

00:05:41.440 The presence of a man is the father, not the title.

00:05:44.540 Yeah, but when a man grows up eventually, you said something earlier, you said.

00:05:48.920 Listen, when I grow up, I have no connection to a man.

00:05:50.980 So no man, I ain't been hurt by a man.

00:05:53.920 I had no connection to a man to be hurt.

00:05:57.020 No expectation, no nothing.

00:05:58.360 Do you know what you said at the beginning of the podcast?

00:06:00.480 Yes, you said something very powerful.

00:06:03.280 You said, you know, when you were a kid, you and your older brother, he was a big guy and

00:06:07.840 he was in and out of juvie.

00:06:09.400 And then your mother ended up having a daughter.

00:06:11.280 I think you said later in life, she ended up having a daughter.

00:06:14.400 And then mom worked for GM and she worked after you guys got home.

00:06:18.280 So she would prepare your meal.

00:06:19.860 She would tell you to do the homework and she's going to call out these times.

00:06:22.880 You guys better be home or else.

00:06:24.120 And if she came home and if you guys didn't do what she told you to do, she'd wake your

00:06:28.920 ass up and talk to you.

00:06:29.840 Now, where the man at?

00:06:31.060 Exactly.

00:06:31.580 That's what I'm saying.

00:06:32.500 But because there wasn't a man, she couldn't check you to raise boys. 1.00

00:06:37.380 I was raised by a single mother.

00:06:38.860 You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

00:06:39.500 I'm telling you, I got uncles and granddaddy.

00:06:41.020 You think my granddaddy and them ain't around?

00:06:42.700 Checking my brother and them?

00:06:43.760 We had men.

00:06:44.500 I'm repeating your words.

00:06:45.020 No, no, no.

00:06:45.420 But I never told you it wasn't no man.

00:06:47.640 You're assuming.

00:06:48.680 I got a bunch of uncles and granddaddy.

00:06:50.380 So I had the presence of a man.

00:06:54.480 I ain't the black kid that grew up poor.

00:06:56.440 I had plenty of men. 0.78

00:06:58.080 Well-to-do kids.

00:06:59.120 I had my own room in the third grade.

00:07:00.680 You know what I love about you, Charleston?

00:07:02.120 Let me tell you what I love about you.

00:07:03.880 And I have so much respect for you.

00:07:06.080 Is, you know, when I was a kid and I was, we didn't have a lot of money.

00:07:12.560 We're like a, you know, what do you call it?

00:07:13.900 Section 8 and welfare kid.

00:07:15.800 See, I don't know what it's like to be poor.

00:07:17.020 I'm telling you.

00:07:17.580 I'm telling you.

00:07:18.100 I don't know what it's like to be poor.

00:07:18.940 I'm telling you from my perspective.

00:07:20.380 But from my perspective, when I was raised that way in L.A., Glendale, and we would have

00:07:27.780 people that would come over and they would say things like, hey, you know, let us get

00:07:31.860 you this for Christmas.

00:07:32.780 Let us get you this.

00:07:33.500 And oh, poor this, poor that.

00:07:34.960 I hated it.

00:07:36.240 I couldn't stand people looking down at us as if we don't have anything, as if we don't

00:07:41.680 have any money.

00:07:42.540 I hated it.

00:07:43.680 I couldn't stand it.

00:07:44.360 So I went to the army.

00:07:45.480 And then eventually I ended up making my own money.

00:07:48.220 I didn't want to be in debt to anybody.

00:07:53.500 I didn't want any favors.

00:07:54.640 I didn't want any of that stuff.

00:07:56.440 Your level of mentally, how powerful words have been in your life.

00:08:03.720 Let me just say this.

00:08:04.300 You sang a hip hop song at the beginning.

00:08:06.420 I come from love.

00:08:08.220 Love conquers all.

00:08:10.000 So I got a loving mother.

00:08:12.320 Yeah.

00:08:12.760 We live in a wonderful, affluent background.

00:08:15.520 When I get hurt, I'm centered around love.

00:08:18.960 I'm growing up in a hospital with loving nurses.

00:08:21.460 I don't know my daddy not here.

00:08:23.080 I got number love.

00:08:24.340 I got my uncle.

00:08:25.320 I'm his favorite nephew.

00:08:26.880 My name is Charleston.

00:08:28.380 My nickname is Blue.

00:08:29.680 My uncle was a pimp.

00:08:30.940 I was born in 1977.

00:08:32.740 There's a movie called Come Back Charleston Blue, 1976.

00:08:36.680 My uncle named me.

00:08:38.300 That's my daddy.

00:08:39.040 So I always tried to be a pimp.

00:08:41.500 Pimp on hold.

00:08:42.700 Prostitute on hold.

00:08:43.580 My daddy absolutely don't want to.

00:08:45.240 You validate my point.

00:08:46.480 So this is what I'm saying.

00:08:47.540 So I had men.

00:08:48.500 You validate my point.

00:08:48.960 I had men.

00:08:50.020 So I don't have no abandonment.

00:08:52.380 I was a kid who grew up in a hospital setting like a dog who'd been inside.

00:08:57.760 Finally got to go outside and play as a kid.

00:09:00.680 Nigga, I'm happy.

00:09:01.960 Yeah.

00:09:02.280 I'm happy.

00:09:02.800 I'm not.

00:09:03.320 I'm not.

00:09:03.820 No, I'm happy.

00:09:04.960 I just never been a kid before.

00:09:07.020 And I'm attracted by what's wrong.

00:09:10.360 So nah, man, I wasn't hurt.

00:09:11.940 That's the excuse most people like to use.

00:09:14.060 That's not my excuse.

00:09:15.700 I chose to do what I did because I thought that was a part of manhood.

00:09:19.260 I believe you.

00:09:19.860 I believe you.

00:09:20.320 So my uncle would paint pretty pictures of prison to me.

00:09:23.760 So when I got to school at recess, I would tell my friends what I was going to do when I get to prison based on what they done told me.

00:09:29.920 So it wasn't disappointment.

00:09:32.060 It was a badge of honor.

00:09:35.580 It's a badge of honor.

00:09:36.740 As most black people kill with cold heart, it seemed like. 1.00

00:09:40.380 It's not cold.

00:09:41.300 They want that badge of honor.

00:09:42.280 And I wanted it.

00:09:45.080 One eye, small frame, couldn't play football.

00:09:48.160 I want to be a part of something.

00:09:50.640 Yeah, and I found something to be a part of.

00:09:53.240 And it was everything I was looking for coming from them negative uncles and my working mother's home.

00:10:00.020 Her presence is gone.

00:10:01.480 We just got a perfect environment, great environment, but we got these negative images to see that matches what we see on television.

00:10:07.320 Is she still around?

00:10:08.260 Yeah, mama's still around.

00:10:08.920 Retired from General Motors, became a foster parent for like 30 years.

00:10:12.960 Dallas?

00:10:13.460 Yeah.

00:10:13.800 Still in Dallas?

00:10:14.440 Yeah, still in Dallas.

00:10:14.900 Your brother?

00:10:15.380 Your older brother?

00:10:15.700 My brother just come home from prison after doing 31 years for a murder he committed when he was 17.

00:10:19.920 Now, my brother was angry.

00:10:21.480 He had a disappointment in his father.

00:10:23.260 He was, daddy show up, daddy show up.

00:10:24.620 I never had dad to show up to disappoint me.

00:10:26.460 Yeah.

00:10:27.000 So he was angry.

00:10:28.280 I always angry.

00:10:28.860 So I remember we were about, the General Motors Arlington plan had transferred the people from Texas to Monroe, Louisiana.

00:10:36.420 Now, I remember watching TV one time, I was probably about 10 years old, and out of nowhere, my brother looked at me and said, when I grow up, I'm going to kill somebody.

00:10:45.800 I ran down there and told my mama, my mother spanked him out of frustration. 1.00

00:10:50.640 How old was he?

00:10:51.500 He probably was 12.

00:10:52.900 What was he watching when he said this?

00:10:54.160 Oh, we were watching a Rambo movie, First Blood.

00:10:58.020 He said, he just looked at me out of nowhere and said, with a sincere look, and it scared me as a kid.

00:11:02.800 He said, when I grow up, I'm going to kill somebody.

00:11:05.120 Got it.

00:11:05.540 Man, I ran down there.

00:11:06.500 Harry, I ever told my mother.

00:11:09.160 Because mothers have to work with very little support back then. 1.00

00:11:13.660 That's a lot of support.

00:11:14.600 She didn't have the luxury to sit down and try to understand where that root came from.

00:11:20.060 So he dealt with a lot of disappointment.

00:11:22.680 He grew up angry.

00:11:24.580 I grew up with love, just wanting to fit in.

00:11:27.120 I didn't want to be the baby.

00:11:28.480 I want to be treated.

00:11:29.240 I was baby.

00:11:30.760 I was coddled.

00:11:31.800 But I was a brave heart.

00:11:33.600 I couldn't wait to break free.

00:11:36.500 All goes back to the conversations we had when you're talking about how things happen with the African-American community,

00:11:46.440 when we talked about crack earlier, when we talked about mindset earlier, father policies, a lot of that.

00:11:51.820 And today, how old are you?

00:11:54.280 I'm 48.

00:11:54.880 I just turned 48, maybe 17.

00:11:56.320 So your brother's how old?

00:11:57.500 He turned 51.

00:11:59.220 So he just got out three years ago?

00:12:00.700 Yeah, he just got out three years ago.

00:12:01.600 Three years ago.

00:12:01.920 From 17?

00:12:02.280 31 years.

00:12:02.860 Yeah, from 17 to 17.

00:12:04.240 But you guys are still close.

00:12:05.480 Oh, no.

00:12:06.500 You don't know your brother after 30 years?

00:12:08.300 That's what I'm saying.

00:12:08.920 That's tough.

00:12:09.220 No, I don't want to be close.

00:12:10.180 What happened when he saw him?

00:12:10.920 Did you see him?

00:12:11.540 Yeah, I was going to see him in prison.

00:12:13.260 And when he came out, what was the conversation like?

00:12:16.020 I don't know you, nigga. 1.00

00:12:17.300 Like that?

00:12:17.600 Even though I've been seeing you.

00:12:18.760 We've been seeing each other in and out of prison for 30, so we'd see each other.

00:12:21.720 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:22.220 But at some point, I stopped going to go see my brother in prison.

00:12:25.700 Oh, God.

00:12:26.000 Because I'm not your mother and I'm not your father.

00:12:28.660 Your mama love you enough, nigga, to keep going to go see you. 0.80

00:12:31.360 I'm going to stay with my kid.

00:12:32.300 My kid ain't down here.

00:12:33.420 Why do I have to subject myself to be treated like this?

00:12:35.880 Yeah.

00:12:36.440 So I ain't going to see him.

00:12:37.240 I ain't send him no money on his books.

00:12:39.400 Because come out here to us.

00:12:40.860 You got a family out here.

00:12:41.720 So when he got out, he got out on the right track.

00:12:45.560 But he's institutionalized.

00:12:47.960 And he think he know everything.

00:12:49.800 So you have to put your hand back.

00:12:51.580 Because you can't correct a fool.

00:12:53.580 Say, what's up, everybody?

00:12:54.700 It's your boy, Charleston White, a.k.a. America's Favorite Uncle.

00:12:58.180 I had just signed up to Minette.

00:12:59.760 So if you want to message me, you want to cuss me out, you want to fuss at me,

00:13:02.980 even if you want some counseling, call me.

00:13:04.760 I minister healing by well word.

00:13:06.280 You can message me directly on Minette.

00:13:08.060 I promise, man, I'm going to respond directly.

00:13:09.760 I ignore them DMs on Instagram.

00:13:11.720 They just took my Facebook.

00:13:13.000 I don't respond on YouTube.

00:13:14.400 I will respond on Minette.

00:13:15.660 I promise.

00:13:16.180 Just call me and see.

00:13:17.000 Text me.

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00:13:23.340 We'll see you next time.

00:13:23.360 Yeah.

00:13:40.660 Bye.

00:13:44.040 Bye.

00:13:44.420 Bye.

Valuetainment - July 22, 2025

＂TD Jakes Is A Feel-Good Preacher＂ - Charleston White UNLOADS On Black Megachurches & ATM Sermons

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