Valuetainment - June 07, 2025


“Thank You Media” - Trump’s STRANGE Reaction To Elon’s Epstein List Tweet


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11 minutes

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2,309

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242

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On today's show, Pat and Rob discuss the latest in the Trump/Elon Musk saga, and how the President handled it in a very public setting. They also talk about the latest on the Pelosi/Pelosi scandal and why they think it's a good idea to impeach the President.

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00:00:00.000 Did you see what Trump did?
00:00:01.320 Rob, I sent you the link, the one right before the one I just sent you,
00:00:04.900 where they're asking him if Trump was going to say something about him.
00:00:08.120 And Donald Trump said, we're going to have a little discussion now,
00:00:11.000 very, very private.
00:00:11.960 He has no comments on Elon.
00:00:13.420 He didn't want to say anything.
00:00:15.160 He was interviewed?
00:00:16.200 Well, Trump and them are sitting down right now in the White House
00:00:18.400 for the state dining room.
00:00:19.940 He's hosting a roundtable with Fraternal Order of Police.
00:00:23.100 That one right there, Robby.
00:00:24.140 And I guess they're asking him, and he says nothing.
00:00:27.360 What is this?
00:00:27.800 Is this it?
00:00:28.440 Yep.
00:00:28.820 Is that Bondi?
00:00:30.240 It's okay.
00:00:31.140 Yes.
00:00:32.520 We're going to have a little discussion now, very private.
00:00:36.320 And I just want to thank you all for being here.
00:00:38.300 And thank you very much, media.
00:00:39.600 Appreciate it.
00:00:40.200 Thank you very much.
00:00:41.440 Mr. President, I'm going to respond to the one last thing.
00:00:44.420 Because normally he's yelling at them, right?
00:00:46.020 He's talking crap right back.
00:00:47.700 He's not saying nothing.
00:00:50.820 Good job.
00:00:53.120 They're completely quiet.
00:00:54.560 And mind you, Pat, I sent him a clip.
00:00:55.940 Do you guys remember three months ago?
00:00:57.440 Wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:00:58.240 Wait a minute.
00:00:59.120 How are you processing this?
00:01:00.360 No, I'm saying like right now.
00:01:01.360 Thank you, media.
00:01:03.000 Why is he being cordial and friendly to media?
00:01:05.020 That's what I'm saying.
00:01:05.560 That's what I'm saying.
00:01:06.360 Normally he'd be like, what the?
00:01:07.400 He'd go crazy.
00:01:08.380 What is this roundtable regarding?
00:01:09.620 This is right now.
00:01:10.300 It's a state dining room for the police.
00:01:11.620 Yeah.
00:01:12.120 So who's that?
00:01:12.740 Is that Pam Bondi? 0.83
00:01:13.720 Who's that next to him?
00:01:14.740 Normally, Pam Bondi, just probably the police. 0.53
00:01:16.760 Tom Homan?
00:01:17.000 Who is that?
00:01:17.440 No.
00:01:17.680 No, no, no, no, no.
00:01:18.600 Vinny.
00:01:19.160 That's Pam Bondi. 0.90
00:01:19.840 In the Oval Office or in the briefing room, that's where they all get to stand there and
00:01:25.280 ask questions.
00:01:26.220 When you come here, this is a photo op.
00:01:28.460 They don't do questions here.
00:01:30.660 But I'm saying, does Trump normally talk?
00:01:32.300 Does Trump care?
00:01:32.780 I like to introduce this.
00:01:33.580 We're going to do it.
00:01:33.980 And they take pictures so that they're covering the story.
00:01:36.640 But in here, in this room, you'll see it over and over again.
00:01:40.440 And you go back and look at it.
00:01:41.560 They don't yell in this room.
00:01:43.380 It's like, hey, would he answer questions?
00:01:45.220 Would he like to introduce it?
00:01:46.600 I don't know.
00:01:47.240 If somebody asked a fake news question like, hey, we heard the bill is this or something
00:01:52.400 like that, Trump doesn't hold back and he doesn't care what room he is in his house.
00:01:56.420 Look, if this was on the schedule today, I can tell you what Susie Wilde did. 0.99
00:02:00.260 Hey, we're going to come in here.
00:02:01.200 You're going to have the photo op of the Paternal Order of Police.
00:02:03.520 I know it's been a very busy hour.
00:02:04.960 Before anybody that shouts a question out and interrupts, just hand me your credential
00:02:10.040 on the way out.
00:02:12.260 I don't know.
00:02:12.860 Because Susie, that's her style. 1.00
00:02:15.320 Have you read about it?
00:02:16.100 That's her style. 1.00
00:02:16.900 I get it.
00:02:17.340 She's very level and say, you want to do that?
00:02:19.220 She will keep law and order in here.
00:02:21.340 And this is a photo op for the Paternal Order for their meeting.
00:02:25.180 This is not in the Oval Office where they all get to go ask her questions.
00:02:29.140 When did he make that tweet about, you have three and a half years, I have 40 years?
00:02:35.400 When did he make that tweet?
00:02:36.400 Didn't that sound like what Pelosi said about W?
00:02:39.240 Pelosi said the same thing about W.
00:02:41.700 I think this is a very big component of what's happening.
00:02:46.060 Because, you know, you wrote a book, Your Next Five Moves, being a long-term thinker, being
00:02:50.480 a strategist.
00:02:51.920 I don't think that this isn't weighing on both of their minds.
00:02:56.340 Okay, so I'll give you an example.
00:02:58.460 I actually had a very ugly conversation with a business associate of mine yesterday.
00:03:02.760 This guy's 80 years old.
00:03:04.360 I've done business with his son, who's 50.
00:03:07.920 This guy's 80.
00:03:09.560 And make a long story short, this guy looked me in the face, gave me his word, like it's
00:03:15.980 Jerry Maguire, like I'll give him my word as strong as oak, and then just turned around
00:03:19.580 and completely screwed me. 0.74
00:03:21.840 Screwed me.
00:03:22.920 I'm talking a lot of money.
00:03:24.680 And he called me and he's like, yeah, I know, man, I know you're probably not happy with
00:03:28.320 me right now.
00:03:29.320 And I looked at him and I was like, dude, you're an 80-year-old man.
00:03:32.160 And this is how you're operating.
00:03:35.320 And I don't even know how to process this.
00:03:37.960 And all I could think of is, you're going to be gone soon, buddy.
00:03:41.740 And I'm going to be talking about you for the next 50 years.
00:03:45.980 And people are going to know anytime your name comes up, oh, that's that guy?
00:03:51.100 You know who you always talk about, Pat?
00:03:53.280 The guy from AIG, Bob Ben Moshe?
00:03:57.020 He's been gone how long now?
00:03:58.420 10 years?
00:03:59.000 10 years.
00:03:59.400 Anytime you bring his name up, let his legacy continue to be what it is.
00:04:05.320 You say the kindest thing about this guy.
00:04:07.460 Yeah.
00:04:07.820 The kindest things.
00:04:09.240 He saved AIG, no?
00:04:10.300 Yep.
00:04:11.240 Long before he's gone, people are still talking about him.
00:04:13.740 And I said to the guy on the call yesterday, I said, you screwed me, buddy.
00:04:16.920 All right.
00:04:17.280 So I lost 50 grand.
00:04:18.480 I'll live.
00:04:19.300 But let me tell you something, buddy.
00:04:20.620 You know who Jack Bogle is?
00:04:22.540 He goes, who's that?
00:04:23.480 Vanguard.
00:04:23.800 I go, I'm shocked.
00:04:25.540 You're a financial guy.
00:04:26.380 How do you not know who this guy is?
00:04:27.880 He's Vanguard.
00:04:29.260 Billionaire.
00:04:29.720 I go, do you know what he said before he died?
00:04:32.140 Do you know his one thing that he wished for?
00:04:34.120 He goes, what's that, tough guy?
00:04:35.860 That's what he's saying to me, an 80-year-old guy.
00:04:37.640 I go, that he dies with his reputation intact.
00:04:41.220 And I go, soon you're not going to be here anymore.
00:04:44.040 But I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing for 50 years.
00:04:46.320 And any time your name comes up, I'm telling you right now, it ain't going to be pretty.
00:04:50.700 And he goes, that's it.
00:04:51.980 I'm done with you.
00:04:52.720 Click.
00:04:53.660 And I go, okay, fine.
00:04:55.520 What's my point?
00:04:56.840 I think that they're both looking at each other.
00:04:58.640 Trump's concerned about legacy.
00:04:59.980 He's concerned about the short term.
00:05:01.300 But Elon Musk is looking at this and being like, you might get the best of me now, Trump.
00:05:05.220 But for 40 years, this is how I'll be thinking.
00:05:07.580 This also, I mean, another, remember, I'm just saying what ifs because obviously we're speculating.
00:05:12.140 But maybe this feud could be to hijack the media's attention.
00:05:16.260 Everybody's focused on the drama.
00:05:17.800 Elon talks about the Epstein client list and Trump's on it.
00:05:21.100 What if this is a door to open that Cash Patel now has to drop?
00:05:26.020 Maybe this is a ploy that now he's like, okay, now you have to put it out.
00:05:29.760 Put out the list and let everybody see it so that everybody that he was talking about from what was the billionaire's name?
00:05:35.380 Rob, do you remember?
00:05:36.360 Reid Hoffman.
00:05:36.600 Reid Hoffman and all these people and Bill Clinton that were all allegedly on it.
00:05:40.560 Maybe this is a way to go, oh, we're fighting and, oh, he's on the list.
00:05:44.480 Drop the list.
00:05:45.820 Cash Patel, I'm the president.
00:05:47.820 Now you can show it.
00:05:49.100 What if that's it?
00:05:50.220 What if that's the main one is for him to do that and now we get to see it?
00:05:54.400 Because, again, I don't believe that Donald Trump hanging out with kids.
00:05:57.140 I just got a text from somebody that is in direct communication with the president right now.
00:06:06.080 The advice from everybody has been to not say anything.
00:06:10.560 Just get off Twitter, get off social, get off any of that stuff.
00:06:13.600 Don't say anything.
00:06:14.400 Just let us kind of sit back and see what we need to be doing.
00:06:17.840 The only thing I'm interested in in situations like this, when something goes from zero to ten,
00:06:24.220 the first list I make, you know what's the first list I make?
00:06:27.220 Who does that person listen to?
00:06:29.180 Who do they trust?
00:06:31.020 So who does Elon Musk trust the most?
00:06:32.900 Can you pull up?
00:06:33.820 Who does Elon Musk trust the most?
00:06:38.400 If you're going to guess one right now, in this world?
00:06:41.660 Who does he trust the most?
00:06:43.240 Sachs is up there.
00:06:43.940 Linda Yaccarino.
00:06:44.840 Jared Birchall, who has been his wealth manager.
00:06:52.940 Never heard of him.
00:06:54.320 Steve Davis, a longtime associate, joint ex in 03.
00:06:57.700 Later let the Boring Company.
00:07:00.660 Antonio Gracias.
00:07:02.140 That's a big one.
00:07:03.260 Alex Spiro.
00:07:04.740 Okay.
00:07:05.400 Stud of a guy.
00:07:07.320 Gwynne Shotwell, president and CEO of SpaceX.
00:07:10.400 Katie Miller.
00:07:11.460 But I'm talking about David Sachs.
00:07:13.240 Kimball Musk.
00:07:14.060 His brother.
00:07:14.280 No, his brother can't get to him.
00:07:15.760 Because if you read the book, I don't know, I'm not friends with these guys.
00:07:19.900 It's not like I broke bread with these guys and I'm speaking, I don't want to speak out
00:07:22.980 of a, what do you call it, out of school like I'm not.
00:07:26.160 I've met Elon one time and we've never exchanged texts, communication, nothing.
00:07:29.740 I don't have a relationship.
00:07:30.880 So I'm speaking purely out of, if something happens at that level, there's a following
00:07:37.740 I'm not with your son or your kid, first thing I'm calling you is, who does he trust that
00:07:43.180 can, Tom, can you stop playing video games?
00:07:45.620 It's like, I'm not, I'm not, I was looking at a, from Roger Stone.
00:07:49.960 Okay.
00:07:50.100 And there was something, yeah, so, so, so, so, Tom's like, you know that, you know the
00:07:55.340 guy Brandon was talking about that he hired to get him to be ranked number one in the
00:07:58.840 video game?
00:07:59.260 It's really Tom.
00:08:01.400 Everybody knows, Tom's a great gamer.
00:08:03.240 Tom, stay with us.
00:08:03.980 But to me, that's what I'm interested in.
00:08:05.700 I got to get to level three.
00:08:06.920 Who does he trust?
00:08:09.060 And that call needs to be made.
00:08:10.700 And Trump can't call that guy.
00:08:12.940 Somebody in the middle that has EQ to say, hey, this is the opening question.
00:08:17.860 If I call Ellison, you know, my first call is Larry, what do you think about what's going
00:08:21.920 on?
00:08:22.600 Open-ended.
00:08:23.580 Because Larry may say, I agree with Elon.
00:08:25.800 Okay.
00:08:26.980 Do you think this is good for America?
00:08:28.760 No, I don't.
00:08:30.200 Have you spoken to him?
00:08:31.780 No.
00:08:32.200 Couldn't get a hold of him.
00:08:32.900 Can you please try?
00:08:34.940 Because I think you need to find a way to get this thing to be settled.
00:08:37.640 Yeah.
00:08:37.840 This is not good.
00:08:39.280 Let me see what I can do.
00:08:40.680 That's how it's going to happen.
00:08:42.360 Someone's got to call him.
00:08:43.580 This is not good for America, man.
00:08:45.380 This is terrible for America.
00:08:46.960 Because Elon can still get what he wants with J.D. Vance being the president by still not
00:08:51.960 doing this.
00:08:52.920 Yep.
00:08:53.620 Because he officially put a wedge in there.
00:08:55.500 You know what he officially did?
00:08:56.920 He officially decreased the chance of J.D. Vance winning.
00:08:59.840 Bingo.
00:09:00.200 He officially decreased the chance of J.D. Vance winning because J.D. Vance officially became
00:09:04.980 the number one target from Trump.
00:09:06.740 Yeah.
00:09:07.460 Remember that one time when they asked him, they said J.D. Vance being the president,
00:09:10.460 what did Trump say?
00:09:11.760 I don't know about that.
00:09:12.460 No, not him.
00:09:13.220 No, no.
00:09:13.600 We'll see what's going to happen.
00:09:14.560 And then about six weeks ago, he said Rubio or Vance.
00:09:17.660 Remember?
00:09:18.180 He gave Rubio and Vance credit about six weeks ago.
00:09:20.260 Thank you for bringing that up.
00:09:21.640 Can I make one point about that?
00:09:24.780 Forget J.D. Vance's name until 2028.
00:09:28.580 In my opinion, Trump is not going anywhere.
00:09:30.920 Trump is Teflon done.
00:09:33.000 Dude, I can't believe I'm so a proponent of Trump at this point.
00:09:36.880 It's crazy where I'm at right now.
00:09:38.180 Like, I'm like disgusted at how Elon Musk is acting.
00:09:41.140 But forget about J.D. Vance, but I'll also say this.
00:09:47.740 You're not going to hear any more conversations about Trump's third term anytime soon.
00:09:53.600 At this point, let's let him finish his second term.
00:09:56.780 Let's make America great right now.
00:09:59.160 Let's figure out this tariff situation.
00:10:01.260 Let's figure out the border situation.
00:10:03.020 Let's figure out this big, beautiful bill.
00:10:05.380 You're not going to hear Steve Bannon guarantee third term.
00:10:08.740 What do you guarantee, Steve Bannon?
00:10:10.020 Steve Bannon has no position to say shit at this point.
00:10:13.060 Steve Bannon is saying that Trump should pull all of his SpaceX and all that stuff because he's threatening stuff.
00:10:19.780 But here's the thing.
00:10:20.380 Listen, I'm just being genuine and real.
00:10:23.340 I'm happy and grateful that Elon Musk helped get our guy across the finish line.
00:10:27.920 The guy has been fighting since 2016.
00:10:31.220 Russia collusion, all the impeachment, shot in the head, almost another attempt.
00:10:36.020 Elon Musk and everything got him in.
00:10:37.520 But I'm sorry, when it comes to this, push comes to shove.
00:10:40.380 To hell with this dude.
00:10:41.840 It's Donald Trump.
00:10:42.800 It's the president of the United States.
00:10:44.160 You're not going to be out there bashing him and trying to threaten him and all that shit because it's our country that matters.
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