Valuetainment - May 02, 2026


＂The 60-Day Clock Is UP＂ - Hegseth DESTROYS Congress At War Powers Hearing


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On today's show, Tom and Rob discuss the latest on the Iran crisis and the 60-day deadline for President Trump to declare war on Iran. They also discuss the role of the War Powers Act and how it applies to Iran.

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00:00:00.000 The story I want to get into is May 1st is a deadline. Can he continue war on Iran after that? 0.60
00:00:07.280 Story pops out, Rob. I think you got a video on this. There's two of them. One of them is the
00:00:11.580 Pete Hex said one. The other one is the fact that May 1st is a deadline. Let's start off with the
00:00:15.860 Pete Hex said one. Go for it. Ultimately, I would defer to the White House and White House
00:00:21.080 counsel on that. However, we are in a ceasefire right now, which our understanding means the 60
00:00:26.380 day clock pauses or stops in a ceasefire so you're not in that's it's our understanding just so you
00:00:32.320 know okay well i i do not believe the statute would support that i think the 60 days runs maybe
00:00:37.000 tomorrow and it's going to pose a really important legal question for the administration there we have
00:00:43.940 serious constitutional concerns and we don't want to layer those with additional statutory concerns
00:00:49.380 i yield back mr all right rob is that the clip on the war powers yes sir okay so this was a
00:00:55.900 conversation that also came up in the meeting
00:00:57.880 that we had yesterday. Senator Republicans are
00:00:59.860 calling on Trump administration to clarify
00:01:01.600 how it is interpreting
00:01:03.340 the 60-day clock
00:01:05.860 under the War Powers Act, its military
00:01:07.700 campaign against Iran. The 60-day deadline, depending
00:01:09.820 on who's counting, is
00:01:11.440 arriving on requiring the president to seek
00:01:13.780 authorization or wind-up operation,
00:01:16.180 wind-down operation. The
00:01:17.760 first strike against Iran was February 28,
00:01:20.900 but Defense Secretary
00:01:21.860 Pizek offered a
00:01:23.880 different view during the testimony before the Senate
00:01:25.780 Armed Services Committee, suggesting the clock can pause or stop during the ceasefire.
00:01:31.500 Republicans include some of who have floated with supporting a War Powers resolution appeared
00:01:36.060 open to exits interpretation.
00:01:37.440 It sounds like there's some wiggle room he provided there for himself, said Senator Todd
00:01:41.760 Young from Indiana.
00:01:43.440 We'll take a look whatever they send over.
00:01:46.060 Presumably, they'll communicate that in a formal way.
00:01:48.740 They have, in a very careful way, followed the War Powers Act so far.
00:01:51.980 Tom, I believe the War Powers Act is the one from Nixon in 73 that he was not supportive of, that you have to go get approval for everything with Congress.
00:02:00.900 So tell us why this is so important.
00:02:02.420 So the War Powers Act happened in 1973. 0.80
00:02:05.420 And 1973 was significant because for four years, the United States had been secretly bombing the living squat out of Cambodia from 1969 to 1973.
00:02:14.880 It was called the secret bombing of Cambodia because they thought that there were communist insurgents that were over there operating camps and supply lines and a lot of havoc that they were flowing into Vietnam.
00:02:29.020 And everybody wanted the Lyndon Johnson's war because, remember, the Vietnam War hit full speed within a year of Johnson being president.
00:02:37.840 And actually, practically before all of the national mourning over Kennedy was over, Johnson had already met with military leaders and strategists and elected to escalate what was going on in Vietnam.
00:02:50.800 So this had been going on for like years and years and years.
00:02:54.060 And finally, Pat, the U.S. Congress is like, look, if we can't get a ceasefire, we can't get out of Vietnam and all these people are being drafted.
00:03:01.040 And, you know, I had an uncle that went and didn't come back, unfortunately, and his name's on the Vietnam War wall there in Washington.
00:03:10.480 And so Congress came up, Pat, and said, OK, stop. Unless you have specific instructions and support and a vote that says, yes, we're declaring war, just like when the president went before Congress and said, I want you to declare war on Japan after Pearl Harbor.
00:03:31.040 It was a very formal vote, and the Congress said, yes, we're declaring war. 0.58
00:03:35.600 So it was all aligned, and Vietnam was not aligned.
00:03:39.180 So all of this madness came together, Pat, in 1973, and they said, that's it.
00:03:44.160 A president can go 60 days if they have to do some sort of emergency act, some bad thing happened.
00:03:49.540 This is what goes on, Vinny.
00:03:50.760 You know what I mean?
00:03:51.040 The military has to respond and do something about something, and you can't wait for Congress and the naval gazing, and you can't put your plans in public.
00:03:59.440 So Congress said, okay, it is true that the president needs the pen, Pat, to act as a leader and to take steps.
00:04:07.440 But after 60 days, if it's going further, you've got to get our permission, and that's the War Powers Act, and that's why they put it in place.
00:04:15.260 And thank you, Pat. My question to you is, Tom, does does Pete Hexeth and the Department of War have to prove with intel behind closed doors, not in front of the public, that these threats, the nuclear plans and all that stuff is actually valid to continue it?
00:04:32.620 Because I think 60 days is still a lot to just go, OK, we're going to go to war because we said this and then we're going to go after 60 days.
00:04:38.600 Do they have to prove that this is correct? Is that what you're saying?
00:04:41.920 The test is called the Unavoidable Military Necessity, and there are subcommittees that are secret subcommittees.
00:04:49.440 There are – I believe there's 11 congressmen right now that will get secret briefings from the Department of Defense.
00:04:55.900 It's like the Defense Select Subcommittee or something like that, Rob, if you look it up.
00:05:00.240 I think that's what it's called.
00:05:01.640 I think it is called that, the Defense Select Subcommittee.
00:05:04.840 And so the president, joint chiefs, and only those people know to create, you know, these committees for the purpose of discussing it.
00:05:16.380 But it's unavoidable military necessity that they have to be convinced.
00:05:21.680 And so they said, OK, then the subcommittee whispers to everybody else, we need to vote yes on this.
00:05:26.460 We've seen it. We representative of Congress. We've seen this. We've talked to them.
00:05:31.120 Yep. There it is. There it is. Unavoidable military necessity right there.
00:05:36.980 So that's a checks and balance, even though, I mean, it is, you know, if a president says, hey, we're going to go to war, we're going to go to war.
00:05:43.040 But at least this after 60 days is a checks and balances to go, OK, enough is enough.
00:05:47.820 You guys don't have any proof or whatever, whichever way that they go.
00:05:50.660 Right. But we live in a world where, aha, chewing gum in class, impeach the bastard. 1.00
00:05:55.600 Yeah, it's it's terrible. 1.00
00:05:57.360 And it's gum in class. 0.98
00:05:58.240 No, no, I'm being ridiculous for a reason. I think you understand, Adam. It's like, it's ridiculous. We want to go after our president rather than trying to get ourselves toward a more unified world. And yes, war is a serious thing, but that's what's going on. 0.73
00:06:14.540 They're like, ha-ha, it's May 1st.
00:06:16.220 If you keep doing this, now we're going to come after you. 0.99
00:06:18.860 I feel like now, you know, Iran could practically, you know, nuke Pakistan, 0.90
00:06:25.200 and the U.S. Congress wouldn't vote, you know, to give him war powers 0.88
00:06:30.520 simply because they want to catch him and they want to do these things.
00:06:33.820 Because I honestly think that the Dem side of this doesn't care,
00:06:37.080 although with the same voice I'll say, you know what?
00:06:40.340 You know, I want this thing over.
00:06:42.220 Yeah, you and me both.
00:06:42.920 Yeah, but let me tell you, there's some people that are the extremists
00:06:45.620 that are going to use this to say this gives Congress the power
00:06:50.260 to want to impeach and hold them accountable because they're going to do it.
00:06:53.160 So the games are about to start.
00:06:54.640 It's a big game.
00:06:55.660 And you know who knows about this leverage as well?
00:06:57.740 Iran knows about this leverage on how they don't roll with this.
00:07:01.860 I want to show a couple of clips, and Adam, I'm going to come to you.
00:07:04.060 First clip I want to show you, Rob, if you want to go to Hexed,
00:07:06.960 is what he does.
00:07:08.420 These three clips, I want to show all three of them, very important.
00:07:10.920 Here's Hexed going back and forth with Elizabeth Warren.
00:07:12.920 Go ahead, Rob.
00:07:13.760 What I give, what you give, what others give, I'm not looking for money.
00:07:17.200 I don't do it for money.
00:07:18.000 I don't do it for profit.
00:07:18.860 I don't do it for stocks.
00:07:19.860 And that's part of the reason why I'm able to be effective in this job.
00:07:22.420 Because no one owns me.
00:07:23.800 No one owns this department.
00:07:25.340 No one owns this president.
00:07:26.400 And we can execute for the American people, and we do.
00:07:30.260 So that's Hex said this one viral.
00:07:31.920 Another clip is him going back and forth on a complete different point of the mantra being, you know, diversity.
00:07:39.880 And look what he had to say here.
00:07:40.900 Go for it.
00:07:41.460 Hex was on fire yesterday.
00:07:42.920 I haven't talked about it as much in these hearings because this is a budget hearing about $1.5 trillion that's historic and significant.
00:07:51.740 But underwriting the change that we've seen in our department was a laser focus on getting back to basics.
00:07:58.020 And the key word to that is merit.
00:08:00.580 We had a department that was obsessed with gender, ideology, and race, diversity, equity, and inclusion. 0.52
00:08:07.620 In fact, the mantra you would hear dripping from the lips of generals with a serious look on their face was, our diversity is our strength, which is the single dumbest phrase in military history.
00:08:20.660 Of course, our diversity is not our strength.
00:08:22.700 Our unity is our strength, our shared purpose, the flag we wear and the constitution we serve to defend.
00:08:29.460 And when you clear that debris away, whether it's Marxist ideologies or social engineering or political correctness or quotas based on gender and diversity, you get the best of the best rising up, regardless of gender, regardless of race, motivated by that environment where merit reigns.
00:08:48.440 It's accountability. And go to the last one, Rob. And by the way, Ro Khanna called them out and said, hey, this has cost American people X, Y, Z amount of money because of gas prices.
00:08:56.600 But this is another one here, Rob, if you want to play.
00:08:59.460 always had a merit-based system that's not the argument no we have not not under the
00:09:04.460 Biden administration we did not it became social engineering not merit and we're fixing it quick
00:09:08.700 yeah so you you say you know it's not and go on the bottom of the tweet if you can see the picture
00:09:13.900 yeah click on that that's real that's what we were dealing with that's absolutely that's what
00:09:18.020 we were dealing with so don't tell me all this bs on what happened the pictures and the documentation
00:09:21.760 is there Adam where are you at with the story look here's what I think is going on so the way that
00:09:26.260 the War Powers Act worked is this. So the president can start a fight and he could, in the case of
00:09:31.620 Iran, whoop some fricking A-double-S. But after 60 days, the Congress gets to go, no, no, no, 1.00
00:09:37.700 timeout, timeout, timeout. You can't keep fighting without permission. So what Pete Hegseth did was
00:09:44.400 like, no, no, no, no, no. There's a loophole here. We're in a ceasefire right now. We're
00:09:50.340 technically not even fighting for the last couple of weeks. So the 60 days doesn't even count. So
00:09:55.760 there's sort of like a loophole timeout situation it's like this is a random reference you'll get
00:10:00.120 this remember in wayne's world the great movie classic movie when they were playing hockey in
00:10:05.140 the street and he's like game on yeah and then a car would come game off yeah that's what's going
00:10:10.320 on here right now is there's like no you can't do this because it's by the way speaking of the
00:10:14.340 worst powers act libya what obama did that he did it without the congressional approval afghanistan
00:10:20.200 we've been doing this war in iran for how many weeks now about eight weeks how long we were in
00:10:25.080 Afghanistan that wasn't a war that was a mission trip so the hypocrisy is kind of kind of out there
00:10:32.320 but the last point is this uh it's amazing to me how the Democrats hate what's going on in Iran for
00:10:37.740 the last uh eight weeks but love the last four years of the war in Ukraine which one is it they
00:10:44.980 love Biden's war but they hate Trump's war I'm smelling a little hypocrisy there and just FYI
00:10:50.280 In regard to P. Hexeth
00:10:53.000 You want that guy
00:10:55.560 In charge of the Department of War
00:10:57.580 Because at the end of the day
00:10:58.920 Our military, we need
00:11:00.820 Bro, you have to have trained killers
00:11:03.140 Sorry, it's brutally honest
00:11:04.860 The mission is to protect the country
00:11:07.100 From evil
00:11:08.140 They have to protect us
00:11:11.360 And that's the guy that you want
00:11:12.900 He's not worried about masks
00:11:14.160 But I'm telling you, you're going to expect
00:11:17.100 A lot of games
00:11:18.120 It is officially opened up for a lot of games.
00:11:20.620 And FYI, if Congress, they lose the House, which the redistricting thing that happened is massive.
00:11:28.420 But let's just say they control the House immediately, 2027, all you get to 2027 could be the year of gridlock.
00:11:36.580 It's going to be the year of gridlock. Everything is locked up in politics.
00:11:40.180 Nothing's going to get done. It's going to be fight, fight, fight back to impeach, impeach, impeach.
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