Valuetainment - February 22, 2024


The Childcare Crisis - Why Parents Are Going Broke Raising Their Kids


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There is a child care epidemic going on, and for those of you that have kids under the age of 5, this is the podcast you're going to want to pay attention to. When COVID took effect, one of the industries that no one talks about or even looks at the numbers got destroyed. Why? Because everybody was forced to stay home and work from home, and child care and babysitters are like, "Wait a minute, I went to school for this. You don't need me anymore?" The numbers decline. And wait till you see how many of them never came back.

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00:00:00.000 There's a child care epidemic going on, and for those of you guys that have kids under the age of
00:00:03.640 five, you know exactly what this is with infants. And those of you that want to have kids, today's
00:00:06.960 going to be the podcast you're going to want to pay attention to. Here's what happened. When COVID
00:00:10.160 took place, one of the industries that no one talks about or even looks at the numbers got
00:00:15.720 destroyed. Why? Because everybody was forced to stay home and work from home, and child care and
00:00:21.660 babysitters are like, wait a minute, I went to school for this. You don't need me anymore? The
00:00:25.440 numbers decline, not as if this is a very high profit margin industry. Their margins are 1%.
00:00:30.720 And wait till you see how many of them never came back after COVID. I got a bunch of data here. I
00:00:35.140 got one study I want to read you before I get into everything else. Families are making major sacrifices
00:00:39.600 to afford quality care. Number one, working multiple jobs, 28% of them. Number two, reducing hours at
00:00:46.200 work, 27% of them so they can spend time with the kids. Number three, moving closer to family, 25%.
00:00:51.560 Going into debt, 19%. Leaving the workforce, 17%. Some of the data here is absolutely staggering.
00:00:59.080 And if you're a parent, you're going to say, I agree with all of it. We're going to talk about
00:01:02.300 all this stuff here today. Okay, so if you get value out of this video, give it a thumbs up and
00:01:14.320 subscribe to the channel. So between 2020 and 2022, 16,000 child care programs nationwide closed,
00:01:21.880 not 16,000 child care employees. Programs, 16,000 during those two years of COVID closed and a 9%
00:01:30.760 of decline in licensed providers. Meanwhile, while that is taking place, 51% of Americans live in
00:01:37.720 communities classified as child care deserts and 31.7% of U.S. children under the age of five cannot
00:01:45.000 access a child care slot. I'm going to show you a map that's going to show you where it's going to
00:01:49.600 be the biggest desert of child care where there's not a place for people to drop off their kids. What
00:01:53.840 state do you think would be like the one with the most? You would probably say some of these bigger
00:01:57.220 states, right? Maybe like a state of California, maybe. But take a look at this map. When you look at
00:02:01.180 this map, here's what you'll notice. Areas where there are few licensed slots for the number of
00:02:06.520 children who need care are known as child care deserts. The darker it is, the more of a desert.
00:02:11.360 For example, the dark brown ones, that's 60% is what it is. More than half of America's children 0.90
00:02:18.440 live in one of these areas. Now, meanwhile, if you have kids or if you want to have kids,
00:02:23.100 you need help. You're like, wait a minute, how am I going to pay for everything? I'm working,
00:02:25.940 my wife, my husband, how are we going to make, I need help. I need someone to help me out with
00:02:29.100 child care. Watch this. You know what the pandemic did to us? It made many people lonely in America
00:02:33.620 where they did not have somebody to talk to. Numbers came up saying 33% Americans feel lonely.
00:02:38.260 JP Morgan Chase just came out talking about 99% Americans are doing worse today financially than
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00:03:34.620 on your first month of therapy with a licensed professional specific to your needs. 61% of
00:03:41.020 parents living with at least one child age 17 or younger said they did not have any formal child
00:03:46.520 care arrangements. And when you break down the number to get a little bit deeper into this,
00:03:50.280 here's what you'll notice. Again, this is data from U.S. Census Bureau from 2022. We already said the 61%,
00:03:55.520 but look at the second one. 8.4% child care or day care center when it comes down to child care
00:04:01.440 arrangement. 5% use nursery or preschool. 5.1% before care, after care, or summer camp is what
00:04:07.560 they use. 0.8% is a federally supported Head Start program. 5.4% is a non-relative. 21.8% is
00:04:14.300 relative other than the parent. And 2.5% family day care provider. Again, for those of you that don't
00:04:20.560 have kids, you're saying, why do I care about this? But for those who have kids, do you know
00:04:23.820 what percentage of parents rely on this? 58% of working parents rely on child care centers. That's
00:04:29.300 about 6.38 million parents in the U.S. And if you break this down on how much money we're losing with
00:04:35.320 this, annual economic losses because of child care translate to $21 billion in lost tax revenue,
00:04:40.400 $23 billion in lost business revenue, and $78 billion in lost individual earnings. So let's look at
00:04:46.340 the cost. Some of you are saying, well, how much does it really cost in different places? What about a
00:04:49.280 different market like Oklahoma versus Florida versus California versus D.C.? Here's what it
00:04:52.940 looks like. 2023 average cost of a nanny, living nanny, $40,000. The average cost of daycare is $17,000.
00:05:02.020 And when you look at this map to see where are the highest versus the lowest, you'll notice D.C.
00:05:06.600 all the way at the top for child care costs. Again, this is now 2024. At 19,214, Massachusetts
00:05:12.780 runs $17,000. And you'll see Washington, Jersey, Connecticut, Minnesota, New York is around $12,800.
00:05:18.040 California is $12,168. Now look at the lowest, Mississippi, $54,39. Four times less than D.C.
00:05:25.320 It's almost as if D.C. parents should send their kids to Mississippi to save the money and then
00:05:30.100 flying back on a Friday. That would be less than sending them to child care in your state. Think
00:05:34.600 about that stat right there. Obviously, I'm just being funny here, but the idea is you're saving
00:05:38.320 that much money sending them to a different place. Then it's Arkansas, South Dakota, Kentucky,
00:05:41.980 Missouri. Look at Florida. $71,86 for child care in the state of Florida. That's very
00:05:49.040 impressive. So the Department of Health and Human Services came out with a number on what
00:05:52.140 percentage of your income should be reasonable for you to spend for child care. The number
00:05:55.980 they came up with was 7% of maximum percentage of household income spent on child care. Yet,
00:06:03.160 you know what the number is? 24% is the actual number families use on child care. That means
00:06:10.320 if you make 80K a year, it's $20,000. That means if you and your husband make $160,000 a year,
00:06:17.420 it's $40,000 being used for child care. If you're a parent and you got infants, you're sitting there
00:06:22.520 going, yeah, honestly, Pat, I don't have a clue how we're doing it. Exactly. I understand. That's why
00:06:27.100 these stats are a child care epidemic that a lot of parents are going through today. So now you may be
00:06:31.680 sitting there saying, well, we got two problems. One, these guys got 1% margin. They're not making any
00:06:35.780 money. So guess what? If you're only making 1%, why do you keep doing it? You're not. You're going to
00:06:39.720 shut down more because there's no money to be made. So if you're doing a million dollar business
00:06:43.740 per year, you're making 10 grand margins. That's it. Why am I doing this? Now we need to make sure
00:06:48.520 they're making more money. But at the same time, we need to make sure parents can afford to do this.
00:06:52.960 So you got a couple of problems. One of the problems that they have on why this is so expensive
00:06:56.340 is the ratios that classrooms have to follow it state by state. But some of the ratios are actually
00:07:01.180 very high and very low. You'll see why. Again, the guidelines on how many kids can be per caretaker
00:07:07.340 vary state by state. But I want you to take a look at some of these here. This is the ratio that we
00:07:11.100 have right now, right? Recommended staff, child ratio and group size at childcare centers. Infants
00:07:16.580 younger than 12 months, one adult should care for no more than three infants. One. What if they took
00:07:23.420 that to four? Now you may be a parent saying, I don't want it to be four, but you also want these
00:07:27.060 guys to stay in business or you spend more money. So as a parent, you have to be like, I guess if we
00:07:31.220 had one more, I would be okay with that. Guess what? That's increasing their margins by 25%
00:07:35.720 specifically to this category, right? Number two is 13 to 35 toddlers is one adult per four.
00:07:41.180 Number three is preschoolers, three years old is one per seven. Then it goes to one per eight,
00:07:45.840 four and five. Then it goes six to eight is one per 10 and then nine to 12, one per 12, right? So
00:07:50.700 then the numbers are kind of going in a higher direction when there's some money being made.
00:07:54.480 But this is one area where is an issue why the margins are so small for some of these businesses.
00:07:59.420 Now here's what some of the industry folks are saying about this who actually do this for a living.
00:08:02.920 And because of these limits, that means more staffing, which means higher payroll costs,
00:08:06.580 says Melissa Clagraso, who has a place in West Virginia called Place to Grow. She said,
00:08:12.180 you also have to pay for supplies, insurance, utilities, equipment, advertising, amongst other
00:08:16.740 expenses. On top of that, loosening the staff to child ratio, Diana Thomas and Devon Gorey use
00:08:23.300 variations in prices and state regulation requirements to estimate that loosening the
00:08:27.300 staff child ratio by one child across all age groups reduces center-based care prices
00:08:32.700 by nine to 20% generally or two to 5% for four years particularly. And by the way, watch this
00:08:38.840 complete opposite argument being made by Randil Hebe and Rebecca Kildern, who found increasing
00:08:43.780 the stringency by reducing the number of children in the allow staff child ratio by two, raise the
00:08:49.400 price of child care by 12%. So if you have a limit of five, you go to three, you just raise the
00:08:54.420 child care price to people by 12%. If you kept it at five, it would have been 12% less. So again,
00:08:58.980 these are people that are running a business saying this is exactly what we're experiencing,
00:09:01.980 apply to real world child care costs. The conservative end of these estimates suggests
00:09:05.980 that relaxing the staff child ratio by one child across the board in Mississippi and DC could
00:09:11.240 reduce the average child care prices by $466 and that's roughly $2,000 could reduce average child
00:09:19.220 care prices between $466 to $2,078 per year respectively. And by the way, I'll give you more numbers here.
00:09:25.500 The average infant child care cost per week for child, nanny is $766. That's 2023. For daycare
00:09:32.360 is $321. For family care centers, $230. Now toddler child care per week, nanny again, $755 for one,
00:09:39.320 $293, $219. If you go to the bottom, babysitter cost per week, one child for an afterschool
00:09:44.060 sitter is $292. For babysitter is $192. And again, parents are feeling this. It's not like this is
00:09:49.300 something we're talking about that parents are not feeling post-COVID. Look at this one here. Nearly a
00:09:53.160 majority of parents responded. 47% of them spend more than $1,500 a month on child care expenses
00:09:59.240 in 2023. 49% of them plan to spend the same in 2024. This adds up to $18,000 per year. Aside from
00:10:07.240 that, 20% of respondents reported spending more than $36,000 per year on child care in 2023, in
00:10:13.920 which 23% anticipate doing so in 2024. And while they're saying all of these, I'm like, why is
00:10:19.540 child care increasing? The number one reason they said was inflation, 55%. Number two was child care
00:10:24.200 centers have increased rates, 53%. Number three was child care providers were already impacted by
00:10:29.280 child care CLIP, which is a number we talked about earlier, 39%. And when it comes on to these parents
00:10:33.840 tapping into their savings, look at these numbers here. More than one third, 35% of parents who
00:10:37.860 respond to report tapping into their source, their savings, on average spending up to nearly half of
00:10:42.720 their savings, 42%. On child care and 25% using more than two thirds of their savings. When asked
00:10:48.740 how long their savings could hold out, a staggering 68% of respondents said that they only have six
00:10:54.780 months or less until their savings are depleted. Six months or less, 68% of them? That's a scary
00:11:01.520 thought. By the way, the CEO of this article that I'm giving you, I'm going to put it below for parents
00:11:05.000 that you want to read. There's a bunch of great stats and numbers for you to read into resources.
00:11:08.520 The CEO of this company, Brad Wilson said, within the first five years of their child's life,
00:11:13.040 parents are being forced into a financial hole that is nearly impossible to climb out of. I agree.
00:11:19.040 Here's some data to show you on why this is taking place. Because of COVID, if you look at this chart,
00:11:23.820 employment within the U.S. child care industry is below its pre-pandemic trends. So if you look at
00:11:29.460 this, look at the actual employment from 2015. It's climbing 2016, climbing 2017, climbing 2018,
00:11:36.040 2019, 2019, what happens? COVID. Look at the drop-off. It goes from 1,050,000 employees to less
00:11:43.720 than 700,000, gradually comes back up. And today, now that the pandemic is over with, guess what?
00:11:49.220 It's still 153,000 fewer jobs than it was pre-pandemic at regular levels. Why? Because a pandemic
00:11:56.860 forced a lot of parents to stay home and do homeschooling. And they're sitting there saying,
00:12:01.240 I don't need child care, babe. I'm just going to raise my kids from home. And some companies are
00:12:04.740 allowing parents to work from home. And they're saying, we don't need a daycare anymore. We're
00:12:07.940 just going to raise our kids from home. Which means a lot of people that are working from home 1.00
00:12:10.940 are also not fully working from home. They're also taking care of their kids. They're doing child care
00:12:14.540 while working from home. But this is catastrophic for this industry. And God knows we need more people
00:12:19.160 in this industry. And again, more stats to validate this. The slowest recovering industry sector
00:12:24.880 in America is U.S. child sector recovering after pandemic. Take a look at this chart. Pandemic happens,
00:12:30.560 as they drop off. Other industries were worse than child care, like hospitality, restaurants,
00:12:35.560 other industries. But they've recovered. And child care is the lowest to recover from COVID. Meanwhile,
00:12:41.380 which makes sense, they have the highest level of job postings, if you look at this. Why? Because
00:12:44.780 there are 16,000 fewer centers to work at. So they're looking for jobs. Imagine you went to school.
00:12:50.420 This is what you love kids. You love taking care of kids. Well, guess what? There's no job for you.
00:12:54.380 You have to change your career path. You're submitting your application, but they don't need that many
00:12:58.080 people because there's not facilities. People are staying home and figuring out different ways to
00:13:01.440 have to make this work. And by the way, all the salaries during COVID pretty much went up except
00:13:05.720 for one industry. And that's child care workers. Imagine you're like every year, 36 grand a year,
00:13:09.940 37, 5, 38, 9, 39, 3, 41, 2, 43. Child care. Boom, boom, boom. Kind of weird. Why? It's just not a lot
00:13:17.700 of margins and companies can't pay because we got to make profit. This is all we can afford to pay. And we
00:13:21.640 have to be penny pinching because if we pay you too much, we're going out of business and we're shutting down.
00:13:25.160 Can you work for only 13 bucks an hour, 11 bucks an hour, 14 bucks an hour while inflation, lifestyle,
00:13:30.420 everything is going up. Cost of living is going up. No, no. Your job is lower by 4% child care
00:13:36.380 workers. How weird is that? That the salary for that is also gradually declined on some of the
00:13:41.920 stats that you're looking at. And when you look at what they actually make for a living, it's not a
00:13:45.400 lot of money. In the highest city state, DC, it's 17 bucks an hour to the lowest is nine bucks an hour
00:13:51.440 in Mississippi. This is not a high paying job, yet it's a very important job. Final thoughts.
00:13:55.860 Obviously COVID disrupted this entire industry and many other industries have gone through
00:13:59.380 disruption. So there's nothing you can do about it. That's kind of what took place. Question,
00:14:02.500 Pat, what do I do? I can't afford to have five kids. I want to have five kids. So what do I do
00:14:05.820 if it's 40 grand a kid? You know, if it's 20 grand a kid and that's after tax money. It's not like
00:14:09.780 you're giving this money and it's a write-off. You get what I'm saying? So if you live in the state
00:14:12.760 of California and this is 20K a year, let's just say, so you're paying all the taxes. Maybe you have to make
00:14:18.260 30 to pay 20. So if you got four kids, the 30 is really what? 120. You pay your 10K, 20 left for
00:14:24.840 your four kids. So just 120 a year, one to childcare. How do you expect me to go through this?
00:14:29.460 This is how I process this. The people that are really being affected by this is low income people
00:14:33.260 versus high income people. Quite frankly, low income people shouldn't be having too many kids
00:14:38.060 if you can't afford it because one, you're putting yourself in a bad situation. Two, you're putting your
00:14:42.060 kids in a bad situation and you're putting taxpayers in a bad situation. Some of the laws we have
00:14:45.720 right now in America that 40% of kids being born are born to a single mother. It used to be 4%. Maybe
00:14:51.300 single mothers need to stop having kids. Kind of pump the brakes. Use condoms. Be a little bit 1.00
00:14:55.960 more protective. You can't afford it. And why should we pay for it? Our incentive program we have is
00:15:00.860 completely out of whack where taxpayers have to pay for you having unprotected sex. Why am I paying for 0.66
00:15:06.640 your enjoyment of sex? I didn't enjoy that sex. You did. And you didn't use a condom I got to pay for. 0.99
00:15:10.580 That's a level of frustration on a lot of taxpayers that are paying for that. And more and more,
00:15:15.060 yeah, the way we say this, another entitlement program, another entitlement program, another
00:15:18.940 entitlement program. First, let's change the entitlement programs that we have. Incentives
00:15:22.900 must change. Number two, I think this is also a great opportunity for companies to see an additional
00:15:28.280 benefit to offer as an employer. You know, when I ran a sales office in 2005, 2006, I realized my top
00:15:34.920 performers were all married couples with kids. So guess what I did? My most common complaint when I would
00:15:40.060 train at night at 6.30, 7.30, they would say, Pat, I don't have a place to bring my kids. So I created
00:15:44.400 one room where I put toys, soft, pillow, movie, cartoons, and we would have a couple of our guys
00:15:50.200 that would, their responsibility was being in the daycare, taking care of the kids. And then at the
00:15:53.800 same time, kids would come there and they would play, they would do things. But there was an outlet
00:15:57.300 for parents to say, I'm going to bring my kids. They're no problem. They had other friends that
00:16:00.860 were playing. They were having a good time. I think this is an opportunity to use this as a way of being
00:16:05.060 creative. But to me, one can say, Pat, what do you expect me to do? If you can't afford it, don't do it
00:16:09.900 yet. Go increase your market value, make more money, or figure out what's important to you.
00:16:14.500 But some of this stuff is leveraging family, leveraging parents. Maybe you go back to using
00:16:17.900 some of the old school methods where family values, principles, people living together,
00:16:22.820 co-pooling, co-babysitting, co-childcare, somebody in the family that's willing to do that. I think
00:16:28.060 it's going to require a lot of creative ways of doing this. It's definitely not easy, and it's going
00:16:32.920 to be tough for a few years, especially the first five years. And then at the same time, I think
00:16:36.540 you can talk to your state and send emails saying, hey, why can't we increase our rates? Go actually
00:16:40.560 do the study. Look up the article that we're going to put below, and go look it up. Why do we have
00:16:44.280 one per four? Why can't we increase it one out of five? You know, one teacher for five kids, or one
00:16:49.220 to four, increase it from three to four. If more and more people ask these questions of your congressmen,
00:16:54.540 your local political leaders, your senators, if you're asking these questions, they're going to have
00:16:59.320 to pay attention to it. And then eventually, maybe that helps a little bit with the margins. They make a
00:17:03.600 little bit more money. You pay a little bit less. It works out for everybody. But those are my thoughts
00:17:07.620 on this issue. If you're a parent, and you have kids, and you're doing your job, you're working,
00:17:11.700 your husband's working, you're going through it, but it's still tough to make it. I salute you. I
00:17:15.060 applaud you. I respect you for it. I recommend you increase your market value, but at the same time,
00:17:19.160 those are some of my thoughts for people that are going through this. If you got value out of this
00:17:22.320 video, give it a thumbs up. Subscribe to the channel. I got two videos for you to watch. One of them is
00:17:25.980 the statistic on so many women that are wanting to be childless today, okay? I don't recommend it,
00:17:30.360 but if you want to see some of the stats, click here to watch that. The other one is
00:17:33.800 a video we did on the welfare program, and now the incentives got people to have kids
00:17:40.420 by mothers who are single mothers without a father in the picture. 40% used to be 4%.
00:17:46.100 What the hell is that all about? If you want to know the history,
00:17:49.040 click here to watch that. Take care, everybody. Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye.