Valuetainment - May 28, 2025


"The Elites Are Narcissists" – Project Veritas Founder REVEALS How To Catch Deep State Power Players


Episode Stats

Length

11 minutes

Words per Minute

204.3415

Word Count

2,391

Sentence Count

172

Misogynist Sentences

1


Summary

On today's show, we have a special guest on the show, Alex Blumberg. Alex is a reporter at the conservative group, The O'Keefe Institute, and he's been with the organization for a long time. He's been covering the pharmaceutical industry for years, and in this episode, he talks about how they get their intel, and the tactics they use to gather it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Your method on how you guys gather intel, it seems to be a pattern that a lot of these,
00:00:06.280 like, it's almost like if I was to audit you to see what your game plan is,
00:00:12.180 you tend to target people that work in the office that are gay that,
00:00:20.020 let me just say it and then just flush mine out and call me out and say, no, I disagree.
00:00:23.560 So through Grindr dating sites, you'll go in, step number one,
00:00:30.260 let's identify anybody on this administration that is gay.
00:00:33.780 All right, great.
00:00:34.440 Step number two, go on Grindr and see if you see their profile that matches this.
00:00:38.940 Great.
00:00:39.980 Let's make 20 different profiles and let's see if one of the ones he'll fall for.
00:00:44.040 Great.
00:00:45.160 Four, schedule a date to go out and put the camera and the recording on you
00:00:49.200 and nonchalant ask what are you doing, act like you don't know what they're doing,
00:00:53.060 you don't have a clue who they are, and act dumb.
00:00:56.080 And then step number six, let's have a couple drinks, loosen them up,
00:01:00.000 make them feel like you're ready to go home and have some fun with them.
00:01:02.940 Step number seven, say let's follow up, I have to go home, I'm so sorry,
00:01:06.860 and then number eight, release the information.
00:01:09.060 Is that pretty spot on on the system and the approach you guys take,
00:01:11.700 or am I missing a few steps?
00:01:13.880 You might be missing a few, but I think that's not 100% of what we do.
00:01:18.000 That might be like 30% of one technique to get information, yes.
00:01:23.340 Okay, so if that's the case, how come, have you had any, or have you tried,
00:01:33.280 maybe the better question is to say, I am sure you've tried to get Fauci,
00:01:38.660 I am sure you've tried to get his people, I am sure you've tried to, you know,
00:01:43.880 see how you can find him to get him in a place to open up and talk.
00:01:48.400 The question would be, one, have you two, why have you not been that successful with Fauci?
00:01:53.020 Specifically Anthony Fauci.
00:01:53.980 I am specifically talking about Anthony Fauci.
00:01:56.320 The man, not his staff, for example.
00:01:57.840 Well, anybody that's his lieutenants, that would be his staff as well.
00:02:02.020 That's still a very valuable asset because what you did with Pfizer was very powerful.
00:02:06.280 Why haven't you been successful with Fauci?
00:02:09.180 You know, that's a, I don't have a legitimate excuse there.
00:02:13.000 I suppose, I like to say this to my staff that, and I hate to refer to myself in the third person,
00:02:21.800 but O'Keefe, O'Keefe Media, my organization, we always get the story,
00:02:26.340 sometimes it just might take longer for us to get it.
00:02:28.780 So I would say we haven't gotten him yet.
00:02:31.680 Have I made the attempts?
00:02:32.740 I mean, we did so many stories about Pfizer specifically, but to your point,
00:02:36.240 why haven't we gone after this man in particular?
00:02:38.680 Oh, I remember about two, three years ago, I did some, everything I'm talking about is legal,
00:02:45.060 but I did a lot of surveillance on him for a number of days and moved on to the next story.
00:02:50.680 So I suppose I don't really have a good excuse there,
00:02:53.340 and that's something that I should get him to open up about.
00:02:56.380 I don't know if I told you last time we were together,
00:02:57.940 that there was a story of an insurance guy who had a couple prostitutes on his payroll,
00:03:03.300 and this guy sells big insurance policies, something called premium financing.
00:03:07.180 And one day, one of his competitors steals a, give or take a $5 million insurance policy away from him.
00:03:14.480 And he finds out that he stole that $5 million insurance policy
00:03:17.940 and coerced the client to go with him instead of the other guy.
00:03:20.320 Anyways, this guy's step number one.
00:03:22.260 Someone's computer keeps clarifying.
00:03:23.440 What's up about that?
00:03:24.120 Can you lower the audio?
00:03:25.260 Yeah, so he sends first a private investigator to see patterns.
00:03:29.640 For about a month, they measure his patterns, what restaurants he goes to at what time,
00:03:34.440 where he sits, what he orders, who's his waiter, who's his waitress.
00:03:37.520 A month later, after doing a private investigation and seeing his patterns, he sends the girl.
00:03:42.360 The girl goes, sits at the bar.
00:03:43.960 She knows where he's going to be at what time.
00:03:46.500 And right next to him, she gets emotional, and she smiles at him.
00:03:49.900 He starts talking and saying, what's going on?
00:03:51.600 Is everything okay with you?
00:03:52.400 I'm so sorry.
00:03:52.940 I'm just really going through a really hard time.
00:03:54.380 And she starts crying.
00:03:55.880 She opens up to him.
00:03:57.100 She says, I'm so embarrassed crying here.
00:03:59.060 He follows her, goes upstairs to a room.
00:04:01.400 Boom.
00:04:01.800 They have the recording, the footage.
00:04:03.080 He sends the footage to the other agent and says, hey, this is what you did.
00:04:06.240 You need to send that client back over to me.
00:04:08.520 Do you go as far as that to measure patterns of an individual to see what restaurants and places to go to
00:04:15.080 to be able to track it?
00:04:16.840 Or is that one of the other 70%?
00:04:19.660 It's an example, but we have done things like that.
00:04:21.740 There is something that we're working on right now where we were tracking down corruption in D.C.,
00:04:28.160 which you'll see in a month or so, which is a serious, serious story.
00:04:32.040 And we had to find a specific individual or a specific organization.
00:04:36.460 So you can't do a dating app thing.
00:04:38.740 You've got to do it a different way.
00:04:41.540 You might pretend to – you don't do exactly what you just said, but you might create an alias.
00:04:47.620 Let's say you're a headhunter or you're hiring.
00:04:51.640 Whatever a person needs, someone needs something.
00:04:54.980 Undercover work is about identifying what that need is and providing that thing to them so that you can get access to them.
00:05:01.760 Undercover work is all about access.
00:05:03.160 How do you get access to someone?
00:05:07.120 The easiest way is a dating app because everyone needs love and affection and so forth and so on,
00:05:12.180 or they believe the person they're meeting with could be a possible future partner.
00:05:16.560 That's the easiest and most expedient way.
00:05:19.900 But you make a really good point about Anthony Fauci, and frankly, I don't have a good excuse,
00:05:25.020 and I usually don't do this on live television, but maybe I should send a team to get them to open up.
00:05:31.320 That's a good idea.
00:05:33.120 I don't think me saying this will stop him.
00:05:35.120 That's the other thing.
00:05:35.940 These people are so arrogant that people often say, how do these people keep talking to you like this?
00:05:42.240 And the truth is because I'm not a psychologist, but for lack of a better word, they're all narcissists.
00:05:47.020 They think they're untouchable.
00:05:48.360 That's right.
00:05:48.960 And they don't even look at us.
00:05:50.780 It's almost like they're confessing.
00:05:52.500 They just don't even think.
00:05:55.440 It's impossible for them to think they could be held accountable for what they're saying.
00:05:59.280 And we have a whole bunch of what we call swipers.
00:06:01.600 We call them the American swipers, and these are girls, some guys.
00:06:04.840 I do this sometimes, you know, and I go on these lunch meetings, dinner meetings, and they just spill the beans.
00:06:11.220 A lot of guys in the deep state in Washington that work for these organizations, the Pentagon, Department of Defense,
00:06:16.300 and they're talking about resisting Donald Trump from the inside, don't tell anybody I'm doing this.
00:06:22.260 And they'll always say it within the first 15 minutes.
00:06:25.620 And some of them have security clearances.
00:06:30.080 Yeah, that's the part where when you're putting a team together, you have to measure their level of ambition to be cool.
00:06:43.220 Right?
00:06:45.640 To kind of say, let me tell you what I know.
00:06:48.140 Wink, wink.
00:06:48.740 Let's keep it between us.
00:06:50.020 I'm cool.
00:06:52.000 You know, it goes back to Jonah Mendez, the chief disguise officer I had on the podcast.
00:06:55.420 I interviewed her right in front of the White House.
00:06:57.560 And I said, what's a good quality of being a CIA agent?
00:07:00.620 I said, is it charming?
00:07:01.560 Is it great in sales?
00:07:02.680 Is it being great?
00:07:03.560 Persuader?
00:07:03.980 Is it being this?
00:07:04.700 Is it being that?
00:07:05.260 He says, it's all of that and then some.
00:07:08.880 However, there's one quality we look for.
00:07:10.980 What's that?
00:07:11.480 If you just got the information that you know you're watching TV, you just saved the free world, you don't need to brag about it to anybody else.
00:07:20.780 That's the quality of a good CIA agent.
00:07:22.620 What a freaking perspective.
00:07:23.940 So for me, if you're bringing guys in, like you almost have to size them up to see how much are you trying to be cool?
00:07:32.760 Like, for example, Scott Besant gives me a lot of good vibes of a guy that could give a shit about being cool.
00:07:39.800 Makes sense?
00:07:40.340 Because this guy worked on the roof for 15 years, almost 14 years.
00:07:43.580 First term was, I think, nine years under Soros.
00:07:45.780 Then five years as his chief investment officer, if I'm not mistaken, prior to him going up there, the average person didn't know who he was.
00:07:53.120 They kind of knew, but they didn't know who he was.
00:07:54.500 It was like, whoa, who is this guy, right?
00:07:57.140 And then he goes in, but some of the guys that get in, they're really, really ambitious with fame.
00:08:03.820 And fame tends to get a hold of you and corrupt you in ways because behind closed doors, you want to be sitting in a room saying, let me tell you what I know.
00:08:12.220 That's very hard to find people like that on the inside.
00:08:15.520 Very hard to, you know, have people around you that know information on what things you guys are working on and they want to brag to nobody.
00:08:23.560 When I was running my insurance company, we'd always have big announcements.
00:08:26.700 Like first time I had Kobe Bryant as a keynote speaker, the late Kobe Bryant.
00:08:29.420 I didn't tell anybody.
00:08:30.140 At that event, I announced him and George Bush as keynote speakers.
00:08:33.440 Until the very end, only two people know that those two were the keynote speakers.
00:08:36.740 I didn't tell anybody.
00:08:38.900 And when we announced, my own wife didn't know.
00:08:41.400 Nobody knew.
00:08:42.780 When we announced, everyone's like, what?
00:08:45.860 Yes.
00:08:47.140 But I could only tell two people.
00:08:49.480 You didn't tell your wife.
00:08:50.860 Nobody knew.
00:08:51.740 Because it's exciting news.
00:08:54.200 It's not even like for some people that they want to say it.
00:08:57.140 They can't control the excitement.
00:08:58.540 Oh, my God.
00:08:59.100 I can't wait to meet him.
00:09:00.580 Oh, my God.
00:09:01.100 I can't wait that he's coming down.
00:09:02.440 Right?
00:09:03.060 So for some, it's purely from an innocent excitement standpoint.
00:09:06.840 For some, it's about let me tell you what I know.
00:09:09.120 Don't tell anybody.
00:09:10.080 Right?
00:09:10.980 Dude, that filtering process of getting people like that on your team.
00:09:13.580 That's almost impossible.
00:09:14.520 That's almost impossible.
00:09:15.600 But that is the mission of how to surround yourself with good people.
00:09:21.360 Oh, that's a tough thing to do.
00:09:23.060 The only way you can do that is if you've never had a run rate with them, to accelerate the testing.
00:09:28.840 Because your character has to be tested.
00:09:31.140 It takes about a couple of years.
00:09:31.900 How do you do that?
00:09:32.680 I'm just curious your thoughts on how do you do that.
00:09:34.500 You test them.
00:09:35.460 It takes a couple of years.
00:09:36.640 You test them with level three information and see if that gets leaked.
00:09:40.780 It's easy.
00:09:41.180 Go ahead and leak that.
00:09:41.840 I don't want you to leak it.
00:09:42.760 But if you die, I know who you are.
00:09:44.220 Right.
00:09:44.500 Right.
00:09:44.820 And then once I do that, I know I can never have you on level two type of meetings.
00:09:48.300 I can only have you on level four type of meetings.
00:09:50.160 I can't invite you to level two type of meetings because you leak information.
00:09:54.000 That's the part where a little bit here, oh, you can't know.
00:09:57.400 A little bit there, oh, you can't know.
00:09:58.560 Like you have kids.
00:10:00.260 You know how you're like, let me test to see if this guy can handle some bad news at this age.
00:10:03.560 You give it to him, he panics and has anxiety.
00:10:05.760 Like I can't give you bad news.
00:10:07.380 But you give this other guy some bad news about what's going on with family, he can handle it.
00:10:10.520 Like this guy's a gamer.
00:10:11.720 He's not there yet because this guy gets distracted.
00:10:14.440 This guy with bad news, he knows how to keep it to himself, stay strong.
00:10:17.400 Okay, good.
00:10:17.980 I can handle talking high level conversation with this level of my kid, but not this one.
00:10:22.020 Like a controlled leak almost.
00:10:23.660 It's a controlled leak to test what the individuals know.
00:10:27.080 This is a very difficult thing to do.
00:10:30.020 And I bet I had a job with Donald Trump when you're at that level.
00:10:34.600 All you can do is, James, what do you think about John?
00:10:37.240 James, what do you think about Cash?
00:10:38.800 Let's say you don't have a relationship with him.
00:10:41.180 Let's say you don't have a relationship with some of these guys.
00:10:43.060 What do you think about him?
00:10:43.700 I think he's good.
00:10:45.100 And you're hoping the person I'm asking is a tier one person that can filter out a person that's a tier four.
00:10:52.120 Do I make this person a tier two?
00:10:54.480 I don't know if this is making sense.
00:10:55.620 Like you have to almost like lean on somebody else you trust to filter them out.
00:11:00.340 So the reason why I'm going here is to see, you know, how for somebody to get to the level of the president, where you saw the first term, how many people he hired that turned on him, flipped on him.
00:11:12.260 What did his methodology for phase two in 2024 change?
00:11:16.480 Hello, everyone.
00:11:17.420 I'm James O'Keefe.
00:11:18.740 Been doing this journalism thing for about 20 years.
00:11:21.480 Truth, justice, exposing corruption, everything that comes along with it.
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