＂The FBI Is LYING＂ - Charlie Kirk Assassination Mystery EXPLODES With Secret UVU Campus Construction
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Summary
Pat and Rob go back to the scene of the shooting to see if they can piece together what happened to Charlie Wilson. Will they find out who fired the fatal shot that killed him? or will the FBI cover it up?
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Last week, we showed a clip, maybe on Monday, the Range Day Bro Clip.
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Pat, that Range Day Bro Clip you played was great,
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but a guy just sent me something showing a completely different thing.
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Fast forward the Range Day Bro Clip to about four minutes.
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Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going.
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Back up, back up, back up a little bit, back up a little bit, back up a little bit.
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And where it shows the headset on Charlie's ear.
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Go back, go back, go back, go back, go back, go back.
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Get the blood splatter, go down, then up, and then the exit wound emerges.
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You're also going to find out this guy talks out both sides of his mouth.
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He'll say something like, the FBI is lying, the official narrative is lying.
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And then he'll say, I'm not accusing anybody of anything.
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What matters is that the official narrative is not true.
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See that thing that comes out and it looks like it's blood, right?
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They will say it's 100% conclusive or it's already been proven.
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Now, Rob, go fast forward at a different angle with him.
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Just fast forward the clip and go until he shows the angle.
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Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going.
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So we're going through here, step-by-step, frame-by-frame until we find it.
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So that right there, you can see his reaction right here.
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So this is what I believe to be the first frame capturing his reaction of anything from the bullet.
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So now here, when you look around his ear, I believe that is the wire.
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That is certainly not blood splatter like this guy falsely claimed.
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And also, where's the blood dripping that he was claiming was on, dripping on the side of Charlie's head?
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There is no blood there because there was no entry wound here.
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You can see it's still right there, still vertical.
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You're going to see it disappear on the next frame.
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It moved up and gone already because of the force of the impact.
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Now, nowhere here is there any type of entry wound.
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You would have seen an explosive entry wound by now, just like we did from the views from the front,
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which shows that there was absolutely zero shots hitting Charlie from this side.
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So anybody that tries to show you a video from the front.
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So remember, guys, this is why I love what's going on right now.
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Reacting to whatever they have and reacting to whatever they have.
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Tom, when you see this, what do you think about?
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Well, I want to see all the perspectives and all the angles.
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I don't want to keep seeing, you know, Charlie and the moment of passing there.
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And everybody that is a forensic analyst is saying the same thing.
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They said that does not look like an entry wound on the front of his neck.
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You have people that are coroners that have talked about this.
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And so the question is, okay, how did such a cataclysmic wound happen there?
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And, you know, the bullet Man of Steel was lodged in there.
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So I'm waiting for conclusive data from a real investigation other than, hey, his DNA was on this firearm.
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And do we have ballistics on the bullet that you said was found in his neck just below the skin?
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I just, I want to see all these angles, and I'm glad that one is keeping others in check.
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That's my opinion based on the folks that I'm watching who are experts in these kind of forensics.
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And so the question is, how do you get that kind of a wound?
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They're claiming, this is the FBI and everybody, that it was the 30-06.
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And this guy is just another, and I get 100%, it looks like an earpiece.
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But from anybody that shot guns and knows about this type of thing, that, if it was a 30-06, it would have been completely, he would have been rat, it would have been disgusting.
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It would have been a lot worse than what you guys saw, number one.
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Number two, all this footage, just cameras, camera phones sucked in, and it's blurry.
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The main footage is the HD camera that was sitting behind Charlie shooting down, capturing him and the entire crowd.
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But somebody from Turning Point grabbed it, was all sneaky with it, put it in a hat, and give it to another guy that ran off.
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And we're supposed to just take their word that this guy handed it off after he looked at it and gave it to the FBI.
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Yesterday, I called, I called, and Amanda was with me.
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And I called, and I called to the main desk, and I said, hey, I'm with such and such.
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And I said, I'm trying to find out if you guys, because the construction that's happening right now is unbelievable.
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It doesn't even look like what it is right now, okay?
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This, we just, you guys just had, and I apologize.
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You guys had the biggest assassination since JFK on your campus.
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Was there scheduled construction on the exact site where this happened?
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Your conversations, your typing, da-da-da-da-da, sends me to, like, maintenance or something like that.
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Whispering talk to the, I can't talk to you about that.
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I don't need information about the shooting or nothing like that.
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Because I would assume that if it's an assassination at this magnitude, you would leave the crime scene for potential bullets, potential, you know, fragments, other things to recreate in the scene.
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There's stuff in that ceiling, that overhead, Pat, that there's cameras.
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There's an opening that you could get in there.
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Let me give you the information to our VP of Strategic and Communications Management.
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I'm just trying to figure out with this type of magnitude.
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For how many minutes after, not one police officer, not one police officer went there and secured the crime scene.
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I saw people coming and stealing hats off a truck and throwing them.
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Law enforcement should have shown up and taped the scene.
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One cop basically had his gun drawn while they were bringing Charlie, God rest his soul, to the vehicle.
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And by the way, Candace yesterday was talking about this guy, Pat.
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She goes, never has this guy ever been around when we were on tour.
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Back up a second and say who we're talking about.
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The guy with the camera that was taking the SD card out.
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There's probably evidence in there if there was, God forbid, a bullet in there.
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He's climbing up there, moving everything, and nobody's saying anything.
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The way that it was handled and the fact that his friends and everybody else have just moved on
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and they're worrying about turning point does not sit with me, Paul Pat.
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I'm talking about people from all walks of life are like, something doesn't feel right.
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I'm having messages from people that I haven't talked to in years that are like, I know I
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They go, none of us feel like what we're being told is the truth.
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Now they're trying to say that Tyler didn't even step foot on the campus that day.
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What do you think is going to end up happening?
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Just like every single time, PBD, they always get away with it.
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Evil, evil on this sense, they get away with it.
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And I know some of her points are a little out there.
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Nobody from their side is asking questions like this.
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If you were my friend, Pat, and I died, I would want you to be like, I would want you
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The first is there are hard facts that dots aren't connecting.
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Crowd reaction appears to be a little, little different.
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Is, and he really ran off that way with that gun of that size?
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In that, in that jacket or blanket, whatever he had there, he was walking peg leg down the
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You know, there's, there's things on the, the Tyler angle that don't add up.
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Why is this, this older gentleman standing up when everybody would be ducking down?
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You know, uh, I, I was in a restaurant when a gunshot went off in a, in a bar, one, one
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We were all under the tables until, until a server said, you know, um, our security guy
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When I was in college, I heard a gunshot indoors.
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So I see little facts like this that just don't seem to add up.
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Why wasn't there police there taping up the scene?
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Why are people taking cameras that would be holding footage that would be of great interest
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Why is the Utah governor coming to the microphone?
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It's, it reminds me if you read Oswald, they did the same thing.
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They held up the, the Italian gun and then they talked about Oswald and the day later
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So the only thing I could say for certain is that, um, we're clearly not being told everything
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We're not being told everything the hospital knows.
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We're not being told everything the turning point knows.
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And that was one of the things I was most excited about for this administration was the
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notion of having a transparent FBI for the first time where, you know, we know the games
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they play for like the JFK stuff with the Butler, Pennsylvania stuff and, um, even the
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And you would think that somebody like Kirk, who was the, almost the most responsible person
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for getting Trump elected, like Trump could be in jail if it wasn't for Charlie Kirk with
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You would think that he would have come down with more vengeance and more curiosity about
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what happened to Kirk and talk, spoke about that more.
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So I'm surprised to see that from Trump's end that he's not more curious about what
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happened in Kirk, I'm surprised that Kash Patel's not being more transparent and forceful to
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And then not only that, they're not, they're not, they're withholding stuff from us in addition
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So I don't think there's enough to say for certain who might've done it, but I can say
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for certain that we don't know everything they know.
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And they're like making it, they're forcing us to come up with these, uh, theories and
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alternate opinions because they're being, they're deceptive.
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How long, how long are you willing to be patient?
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Hanlon's razor is never a tribute to malice, never a tribute to malice that which is adequately
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explained by stupidity, Tom, or a mistake or a mistake.
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So it suggests that negative events or poor actions are more often the result of ignorance,
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incompetence, carelessness, or other non malicious factors that intentional evil, that then intentional
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Let's take this as innocent until proven guilty perspective real quick.
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It comes out because it, it, it, it should, the damage doesn't go in like that.
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I'm on the same page that coming out looks like it didn't come this way.
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Cause at first I, we thought it was blood squirting.
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So that's good that we're seeing that the guy standing up automatically and starts walking
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towards the area being shot as the same guy that was there on nine 11 and then the guy
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putting the chip in the hat and walking all this stuff.
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And, but, but to me, to me, I guess the question I'm asking is how long, imagine you're them.
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How long should you have to get to the bottom of this?
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How many people are you supposed to be talking to?
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You know, the, the, the fact that you're seeing the place being fixed up and that's where
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Have they made an announcement why they did the construction?
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Is there any, is there any announcement by the university?
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I could not find a single news article, nothing about any type of construction that was being
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What, what is the, I'm going to call the, her name, her name is Ellen.
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Rob, can we call and you just hang on one second.
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What I'm trying to find out is, all we want to know is one thing.
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Have you made the announcement of Utah is a one party consent state.
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So what, what, what I want to do is I'm going to ask the question to see if they've made
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You don't just fix up the place that got shot up and not make an announcement about it.
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Play the opposite of devil's advocate, which is what do you call the opposite of devil's
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What, what, what is the antonym of devil's advocate?
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You would say that it'd be because they don't want to give evidence away to, that would
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But Cassius is the one that came out and said, Hey, we got them before they even had
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So he, that contradicts the notion of them trying to withhold things from the public.
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Saying, saying that you have a shooter that fast before you actually had the shooter
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doesn't give you any, doesn't add any credibility to you, which you've already lost
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You're the spokesperson for them and you truly know everything they know.
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It's a horrible thing that happened to a very public figure.
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There are multiple angles that are being pursued here and we have to pursue those
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and complete the investigation without tipping off people or without framing it
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And we can't lose our opportunity to prosecute because certain things are
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We're interviewing a lot of people and following a lot of leads.
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So let's say I'm the, I'm the, you know, press secretary for the FBI says, well, so
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the, why did you say you have your, your, you got him?
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If there's a second shooter, don't you have to come forward and say you don't got
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Either you got him and you're done FBI or you're pursuing other leads, still looking
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And you're kind of stuck, but from the inside, that's what I would be saying.
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There's some construction information that's been released by the Utah Valley
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University, but none of it has to do with the building that you guys are
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There's also the stadium that they're going to be using.
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So they do issue announcements regarding construction ongoing at the campus.
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There is nothing written about where Charlie was shot and construction being
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The problem is it's hard to make a case for them.
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It's hard to make a case why it's, if let's just say the school does have that construction
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Guys, you're not touching this for three weeks.
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What is the longest a crime scene stayed intact?
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What is the longest a crime scene stayed intact just to get all evidence?
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I want to know because the average is going to be probably eight hours, 12 hours, 14 hours.
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But what is the longest a crime scene stayed intact?
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40 plus days later in homes were hitting containers.
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So what I'm asking is what is the longest in America after a murder took place that the FBI asked to keep the murder scene untouched for them to investigate the entire, you know, homicide?
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I want to know this question because I want to make comps.
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And Joe's making it in 1969, the FBI exhumed the body this decades later on.
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No, I want to know how, because let's just say, let's just say we'll look this up.
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I just don't know if we're asking the question the right way.
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Let's just say if there's cases where it was 40 days, it better be bigger than this assassination.
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Let's say there's cases that's two and a half months.
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Leave the scene the way it is until we get everything figured out.
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John Bennington, Embassy House, Boulder, six-year-old murderer, family home, remained under investigation for months.
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Evidence was collected over a long span, but the house was eventually released and later sold.
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The house remained sealed and under investigation for months.
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So John Bonnet Ramsey, six-year-old murderer, Oklahoma City bombing.
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Manson family murders, something like a crime scene for weeks.
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The Tate-LaBianca houses were crime scenes for weeks, but eventually returned to owners.
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Typical duration is what most homicide scenes in the U.S. are held for days to weeks, sometimes months,
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Go with the question and ask, how long was Charlie Kirk's scene kept, what do you call it?
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No, like, how long did they say, you know, yeah, I guess intact.
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How long was Charlie Kirk's crime scene kept intact in order to fulfill the, in order to finish the investigation?
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It reminds me of them hosing off the roof at Butler, Pennsylvania after that happened.
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There is no, there isn't any record, credible evidence, court filings, or FBI reports.
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What was that guy's, the something collector, bone collector?
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Denzel Washington, and I don't know what it was.
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Why didn't the police secure the area and take all the photographs?
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They have these little number tents, if you've seen them.
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They put them on the ground, and they take photographs.
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So there's a simple, without going conspiracy, simple fact-based question.
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Why didn't a law enforcement, campus police, local police, FBI, sequester and photograph everything the way that we see it?
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If this happens to me and my wife tells the FBI, I don't want you to investigate it, does the FBI still have a duty to go out there and investigate it?
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Yeah, that increases the odds of the investigation.
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But if family says, we're good, we're moved, I'm trying to find out, like, who has the authority to say, you know how sometimes somebody commits a crime against you?
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Shouldn't the FBI and the police department still, even if you forget those?
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No, in the case of simple battery or things like this, I can decide.
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There are no cameras in the restaurant, nothing anywhere.
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The more and more I think about that, the more and more yours is making sense.
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And so, Pat, my cousin, Mike's wife, Nina, just messaged me.
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They closed the whole school down for five days.
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Days after they were already digging up the floor.
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So by the way, by the way, by the way, if anybody is sitting here and you're like, you
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You're giving credibility to everybody that's going down the rabbit hole by simply doing what
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You want to stay there for four or five weeks, sometimes two months.
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At one case, house, no one goes in there for nearly eight months.
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And you're telling me for this one, nobody wants to come and investigate to see what
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And look at all the pictures they would take here.
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They have, in this, this isn't Charlie Kirk, but in this FBI investigation, there are 75
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I almost think it could be the opposite of that sometimes.
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Don't attribute to stupidity what could be attributed to malice.
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So this is the part where I want to, I have questions.
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What I'm, by the way, we're not even professionals.
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We're just asking basic questions that you don't have the answers for.
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And in any case, if you come to me and you say, Dad, I want this.
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Because a house that was built after yours in better condition with recent upgrades with
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one additional bedroom and a swimming pool and 0.1 acre bigger than yours sold for $798,000.
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So to me, the comp on this is if you've spent weeks at a different place, and this is the
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biggest story, the biggest assassination we've had in America the last 60 years, and you move
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To me, the biggest thing is when the conversation comes about, well, it's Israel.
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To me, the conversation, well, they had a meeting because of this.
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To me, the conversation is, you know, okay, you want to debunk those or whatever?
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To me, but then if you're hearing conversations about, no, man, why don't you guys want to
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That's the area where you're like, there's a point there.
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You know, there's a point of what's going on here.
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You want me to sit on the sidelines and think that's it?
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You're losing, by the way, again, this goes back to, this goes back to the Epstein situation
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where you ask, again, too suspicious that all of these things are going on.
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Of course, we heard the one story that the guy comes out and says, Bill Clinton, yes,
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Yeah, the DOJ for James O'Keefe for Project Veritas.
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So to me, yeah, the construction of Utah Valley University campus site where Charlie Crook
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was asked and involves removing the bloodstains, grass, and replacing it with bricks, creating
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a makeshift memorial area where people can leave memento, mementos.
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There are no confirmed detail on additional permanent structures beyond this modification.
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What type of construction is being done at the campus?
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Yeah, they say the scene was held for eight to 14 days before releasing it.
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That's not what I saw where students were recording going, look, they're already digging
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I'm just curious, too, from our audience, that poll that you ran, what's the percentage
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of them not being convinced about the official story?
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And yo, your boy, your husband, your freaking...
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Your guy that was running a $500 million company is gone.
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And y'all are just like, yeah, we're going to just release old footage of him.
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I know everybody grieves in their own way, but guys, for his sake, take a time out with
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the future of TPUSA and find out what the hell's going on.
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I don't know where the poor child pedophilia on his phone is.
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I hope they're doing it, guys, because you know what's going to happen?
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Have you guys even heard what Tucker had to say?
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No, but we've seen cases like this where, you know, the district attorney is downtown
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and all these people show up and they're holding little pieces of paper and they're
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usually quiet like a vigil and they'll say, answers for Ashley, right?
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And they have a picture of her and they're saying, you know, holding it up like this.
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You've seen it, Pat, where they're all sitting there, you know, and then they'll ambush
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the district attorney when he's walking out one day.
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And the only thing Tucker did, because I haven't seen anything, because Tucker's been doing
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segments and guests and the 9-11 stuff, which was fantastic.
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The only thing that he did was the memorial, which another question, why weren't Charlie's
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Because you would think the parents would be at something like that monumental, that something
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And I'm sorry, going back to my point, Tucker, the only thing Tucker did was speak at the
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memorial, and he said Jesus was speaking the truth, and he was murdered.
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That was a quick speech to the point, and he left.
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But is he speculating and asking any questions?
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He is heavily supportive of what's going on with Turning Point USA.
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He's asking, whatever you guys need from me, I'm here for you.
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So why is Tucker so supportive of Turning Point USA?
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Well, I think immediately when it happened, he donated.
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But no, Tucker, just a couple days ago on the Turning Point USA podcast, says, whatever
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And he is a guy that you would have seen in a situation like this, questioning if he felt
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He's just saying, hey, this is what's going on.
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I want to see what everybody else is saying, because I want to see what's going on here.
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If you can go through this season and just kind of hear some of the stuff out and not
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be controlled by the mob and jump to conclusion, you'll be ahead of the game.
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Naturally, you're going to want to gravitate towards somebody.
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Naturally, you're going to want to gravitate towards what you thinking happened.
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But reason is being willing to hear opposing arguments that contradicts your own argument
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There's not going to be a guy that's going to come and replace Charlie Kirk tomorrow.
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There's a bunch of guys that are going out there saying, I will continue what Charlie
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When you wear this shirt, you know what it feels like?
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You ever had somebody who loves hugs you and tells you how amazing you are?
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The quality of this thing I wear, like Tim shows right here.
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Rob, can you zoom in to show different features of the shirt?
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Maybe our best item we have on there, quality-wise.
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If you're somebody that wears dress shirts, get the white, the black, and the blue.
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If you don't like it, I want to call and talk to you.
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I will literally FaceTime and say, how can you not like these shirts that you wear them?
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Go put them on Sportum and leave that button open so people see that VT logo right there
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to see who you're representing, especially if you support this brand, if you love what
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Rob, if you can put the link below to the business section, that would be great for people
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By the way, the black is sick because it's gold on black.
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Rob, can we go to see what the white one looks like?
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I'm telling you right now, studies have shown 40 weeks later something could happen.
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It could cost you $350,000 if you were to shoot.
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The quality has got a lot of special things that's going on.
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It's pretty expensive for the whole funnel box.
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