Valuetainment - January 20, 2026


＂The Left ATTACKS Christians＂ - Don Lemon UNDER FIRE After Anti-ICE MOB Storms Church


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In this episode, Rob and Pat discuss a recent incident involving a church pastor and a group of protesters who interrupted a worship service. They also discuss a new law that was passed in Minnesota that makes it illegal to stop people from entering a house of worship.

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00:00:00.000 So, Don Lemon goes into a church, okay, and he sees this pastor.
00:00:05.900 This pastor is there minding his own business, doing his thing,
00:00:09.380 and all of a sudden, everybody sees this clip going viral, okay?
00:00:15.280 And the clip is of Don Lemon with this pastor, and the pastor is like,
00:00:18.900 what are you doing? Like, let us do our thing.
00:00:21.540 Just watch this clip to kind of get an idea what's going on here.
00:00:24.700 Go ahead, Rob.
00:00:25.540 What do you think of this?
00:00:27.040 I mean, this is unacceptable. It's shameful.
00:00:28.940 It's shameful to interrupt a public gathering of Christians in worship.
00:00:36.480 But there were folks who will say...
00:00:38.360 I have to take care of my flock, my family.
00:00:40.660 Listen, we live in a...
00:00:41.380 There's a constitution in the First Amendment to freedom of speech
00:00:44.060 and freedom to assemble and protest.
00:00:46.180 We're here to worship.
00:00:47.420 We're here to worship Jesus because that's the hope of these cities.
00:00:50.520 That's the hope of the world is Jesus Christ.
00:00:52.440 I want to be very respectful. Please don't push me, though.
00:00:54.400 We're here to worship Jesus.
00:00:57.100 That's why we're here, okay?
00:00:58.600 That's why we're here. That's what we're about.
00:01:00.860 Don't you think Jesus would be understanding and love these folks?
00:01:04.840 We're about spreading the love of Jesus.
00:01:06.420 But did you try to talk to them as a Christian?
00:01:08.600 No one is willing to talk.
00:01:09.760 Okay.
00:01:10.340 I have to take care of my church and my family, so I ask that you actually would also leave this building.
00:01:15.260 You don't want us to chronicle or whatever?
00:01:17.220 Unless you're here to worship.
00:01:17.880 I'm always worship. I'm a Christian.
00:01:19.200 We're here to worship.
00:01:20.660 We're here to worship.
00:01:21.360 Okay.
00:01:21.740 Thank you very much.
00:01:22.740 I appreciate it.
00:01:23.560 So, Rob, give us the context of this.
00:01:25.460 This is what?
00:01:26.100 This is at a church, I believe, in Minneapolis, right?
00:01:30.080 Yes.
00:01:30.320 It's in St. Paul.
00:01:31.420 From what I found, the church is in St. Paul.
00:01:33.900 The pastor that is at the church also works for the local ICE organization, and that is why the protesters showed up to protest his church service.
00:01:43.620 But apparently what they violated was called the FACE Act, which prohibits you stopping people in a house of worship.
00:01:51.640 And that's punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
00:01:57.740 Vinny, what do you have with this?
00:01:58.740 Well, okay, I know from time to time I speak about evil on this podcast, and I want people to know I'm not doing it out of repetitiveness.
00:02:06.460 I'm not doing it because I have a lack of content.
00:02:09.080 I just want to show people over and over what we're dealing with.
00:02:13.300 Ephesians 6, verse 12, it talks about not flesh and blood, but about evil people, okay?
00:02:18.480 I honestly think Minnesota is cursed.
00:02:21.600 In 2024, Rob has a video.
00:02:24.020 Rob, you can just fast forward it to the end.
00:02:25.380 Satanic worshipers honor Tim Walsh with a plaque celebrating his refusal to oppose the spread of Satanism at the state capitol.
00:02:34.720 Look at this.
00:02:35.840 Yeah, Pat, let her read this, Rob.
00:02:37.360 Go ahead.
00:02:37.920 This is in their state capitol.
00:02:39.800 Worshippers, thanks Governor Tim Walsh for not standing in the way of spreading Satanism in the state capitol building.
00:02:51.580 Satan has a special place for you.
00:02:54.000 Wait, why are you saying that?
00:02:55.780 This is in the state capitol place for you?
00:02:58.420 That is crazy.
00:02:59.060 This is a plaque.
00:02:59.680 This was a plaque of Baphomet expressing gratitude for a Democrat-aligned coalition of Satan worshipers, 0.92
00:03:07.340 and the inscription proclaims that Satan has a place reserved for Governor Tim Walsh.
00:03:12.760 This is where, though?
00:03:13.560 This is in Minnesota?
00:03:14.180 This is in the state capitol in 2024.
00:03:16.380 I don't know if it's still there, Pat, but this is what I'm trying to tell people.
00:03:19.140 Rob nailed it.
00:03:20.080 The freedom, it's the freedom of access to clinic entrances, the FACE Act, federal law that makes it a crime to use force, threats, or physical obstruction to prevent someone from accessing a place of worship.
00:03:31.880 Okay?
00:03:32.360 And Don Lemon knows what he's doing.
00:03:33.880 Immediately after this, he was at the airport trying to cover his tracks saying, I didn't know.
00:03:38.840 There's videos of him before with the girl that was behind it kissing her and knowing what he's doing.
00:03:44.740 He's not dumb.
00:03:46.980 Okay? 0.89
00:03:47.420 Do what you want.
00:03:48.320 Protest wherever you want.
00:03:49.480 People are trying to worship and be in church.
00:03:51.980 How many Catholic priests, Elon, we talked about this in the back, were arrested for trying to tell people to not have abortions?
00:03:58.580 They've arrested Catholic priests and gave them six months in prison.
00:04:02.740 Okay?
00:04:03.140 And this is the one thing that's bothering me about this.
00:04:05.660 Pat, you nailed it.
00:04:06.280 That it's going to keep going over.
00:04:08.380 How many more warnings?
00:04:10.000 How many more investigate launches?
00:04:11.980 How many more?
00:04:12.780 Pam Bondi's tweets yesterday were so infuriating.
00:04:15.680 I know the AG, the Assistant Attorney General, she was saying, we're going to look into it.
00:04:19.300 We're going to look into it.
00:04:20.080 Look into what?
00:04:21.140 You have the video.
00:04:22.360 This is exactly what the statute says that they're doing wrong.
00:04:25.640 And it infuriates me.
00:04:26.840 It infuriates me because if Democrats were in charge, every single person in Minnesota would be in jail right now.
00:04:32.960 From the mayor, to the governor, to the protesters, anybody involved with this tomfoolery would have been freaking locked up.
00:04:39.040 But it's Republicans.
00:04:40.080 Okay?
00:04:40.440 They just bark and Democrats bite. 1.00
00:04:43.440 It drives me crazy.
00:04:44.360 Tom, what do you have with this?
00:04:45.500 Well, I'll tell you where I'm at.
00:04:47.060 Not to be repetitive.
00:04:48.560 We can go back to right after 9-11.
00:04:50.100 And in New York City, conservatives and Americans were warned not to block the mosques that were in New York.
00:05:01.100 That the FACE Act would be, that you would be violating the FACE Act and you would be prosecuted.
00:05:06.920 You can have a protest in the park with a permit against Islam, radical Islam, but what you can't do is get on the sidewalk in front of the mosque and make a large mob, even if you're just standing there peacefully, and prevent them from having access to their house of worship. 0.77
00:05:27.100 I'm not defending Islam.
00:05:28.940 I'm telling you, this is what the FACE Act does.
00:05:31.460 And if the Assistant Attorney General, and that's what I want to focus on, if you're merely going to put a tweet up to get people like me or Vinny or people that are appalled by this to, oh, great, you know, the Attorney General's office has responded to it.
00:05:45.080 No.
00:05:45.840 What are you doing?
00:05:46.940 Don Lemon was there as a facilitator.
00:05:50.400 He wasn't with the organized group that we see, but he was facilitating it.
00:05:55.080 He was coming in there.
00:05:56.300 He was waving, and so he was actively part of it.
00:05:59.960 So I believe that Don Lemon was an accessory to the violation of the FACE Act.
00:06:06.280 And I think Don Lemon and the people who are there, the ones that organized it, should be prosecuted.
00:06:11.960 Because do you think today that if a group of conservatives did this at a mosque, that there would be prosecutions?
00:06:19.520 In five seconds.
00:06:21.080 Yeah.
00:06:21.460 In five seconds.
00:06:22.200 So why isn't there a prosecution against the organizers?
00:06:25.580 And then Don Lemon, sorry, dude.
00:06:27.560 You trespassed.
00:06:28.480 You came in here.
00:06:29.300 You were interrupting it.
00:06:30.560 Oh, it wasn't freedom of speech.
00:06:31.920 You're even misquoting statues.
00:06:33.860 Sorry, dude.
00:06:34.420 You're an accessory to it.
00:06:35.280 Let me show this, and I want to come to Vinny.
00:06:36.520 Here's Don Lemon.
00:06:37.000 Here's a different clip.
00:06:37.760 Watch this.
00:06:38.240 Vinny, I'm going to come to you after this.
00:06:39.260 This is the beginning of what's going to happen here.
00:06:41.960 When you violate people's due process, when you pull people off the street and you start
00:06:46.080 dragging them and hurting them and not abiding by the Constitution, when you start doing all
00:06:52.920 of that, people get upset and angry.
00:06:55.140 And if you remember what the civil rights movement was about, the civil rights movement was about
00:07:01.260 these very kinds of protests.
00:07:03.780 There's nothing in the Constitution that tells you what time you can protest.
00:07:09.000 You can protest at any time.
00:07:10.120 That's the whole point of it, is to disrupt, to make uncomfortable.
00:07:13.700 And that's what they're doing.
00:07:14.880 And that's what I believe when I say everyone has to be willing to sacrifice something.
00:07:18.900 You have to make people uncomfortable in these times.
00:07:21.820 If you see how uncomfortable people uncomfortably...
00:07:24.640 This is the beginning of what's going to happen.
00:07:25.840 That guy, Don Lemon, serves a different master than we...
00:07:31.020 He also said, this is the beginning, and I quote, this is the beginning of what's going
00:07:35.660 to happen here, okay?
00:07:37.180 And thank God, nobody in this church was armed or God forbid something happened, because that's
00:07:42.780 what they want.
00:07:43.480 You said this earlier, Pat and the Green Book, they're looking for that next thing.
00:07:46.760 This is the type of person that's paid, paid, God knows who's actually paying him, probably
00:07:51.360 George Soros or the whatever society that he runs.
00:07:54.220 This is the type of stuff, Tom, the open society, that they're pushing and they send people
00:07:58.620 like this in, okay?
00:07:59.900 This is exactly what they want.
00:08:01.020 I'm tired, and I know I'm speaking for the majority of people out there.
00:08:05.100 I am sick and tired of the waiting and the launching and the writing letters and referrals
00:08:10.340 and Clintons and everything.
00:08:12.040 Enough already, okay?
00:08:13.700 Because you nailed it, Pat.
00:08:14.960 Something is about to happen.
00:08:16.600 It's only a matter of days, maybe a week. 0.91
00:08:19.340 Somebody is going to shoot.
00:08:20.580 And Tom, you mentioned the mosque.
00:08:21.860 If they came into a mosque, trust me, those people would have done a whole... 1.00
00:08:26.080 People would have been hurt. 1.00
00:08:27.180 Don Lemon's ass would have been handled in that church. 0.99
00:08:31.820 This, I'm sorry... 1.00
00:08:32.580 He may have liked it, but you were going to say...
00:08:35.080 What would have been handled, Vincent?
00:08:36.900 Conservatives just don't do this kind of thing.
00:08:39.100 Yeah.
00:08:39.580 Don Lemon's an activist.
00:08:40.440 He's not a journalist.
00:08:41.640 He's pushing for escalation.
00:08:43.240 He went in there before he knew any of the claims were verified.
00:08:46.180 So he went in there with an intention of escalating a situation in a private church where he had unverified claims
00:08:52.680 just to get the media attention, the escalation to ramp people up. 0.92
00:08:56.720 And it's disgusting. 0.99
00:08:57.500 The left has a habit of attacking Christians. 0.99
00:09:00.160 It is a problem in this country.
00:09:01.760 People will only tolerate it for so long.
00:09:04.240 There's a massive hypocrisy in the country right now. 0.97
00:09:07.140 And it's disgusting to see. 0.89
00:09:08.700 There is nothing.
00:09:09.740 There is nothing, and I've thought about this many times,
00:09:11.700 that would push me to go harass an innocent person who is just trying to worship,
00:09:16.940 regardless of anything else.
00:09:18.040 There is nothing that would get me into a mosque to go harass a random Muslim who is trying to worship,
00:09:24.220 just like there's nothing that could get me to do it for a Christian or Jew.
00:09:27.080 But the left does not live by those standards.
00:09:29.980 They will take action.
00:09:31.100 They will do whatever they can to push you.
00:09:32.600 And then the second anything happens in return, they have their martyr.
00:09:36.360 They have their story.
00:09:38.060 It's just very frustrating to see.
00:09:39.600 Adam, what are you at?
00:09:40.980 Well, I think we need to stop talking about Don Lemon.
00:09:43.900 He's become completely irrelevant.
00:09:45.900 That's one part of this.
00:09:46.980 Because the word that comes to mind is midterms.
00:09:50.020 So the signal through all the noise is, thank God this is happening in January,
00:09:54.460 not a month before midterms.
00:09:56.680 Because the way this is playing out, reasonable people who are not very involved in politics
00:10:03.140 are looking at this, being like, what is going on?
00:10:05.840 My mom texts me.
00:10:07.220 She's from Minneapolis.
00:10:08.680 She's like, what is going on in Minneapolis?
00:10:11.220 People are scared to go in the streets.
00:10:13.080 Oh, my God.
00:10:13.700 I go, Mom, are you scared of the police?
00:10:18.000 No.
00:10:19.000 I go, you know who's scared of the police?
00:10:20.860 Criminals.
00:10:21.820 So a lot of people, if they're criminals, should be very scared of walking around the
00:10:26.700 streets of Minneapolis.
00:10:28.100 Rightfully so.
00:10:29.360 Tom Homan, the border czar, said something very interesting.
00:10:33.060 He said, we need to do a better job of our messaging.
00:10:36.000 Because if this were the midterms, and this was happening today, Republicans could potentially
00:10:41.700 get smoked.
00:10:42.960 Because an average person looks at the chaos, and they go, well, I don't know about this.
00:10:49.020 Trump should be the law and order candidate who diffuses the chaos.
00:10:54.180 Biden and the BLM and the riots and the wokeism, that's their thing.
00:10:58.340 Trump needs to get a hold of this, just like he sent the National Guard to D.C. to clean
00:11:04.240 up a lot of different cities.
00:11:05.700 They need to clean this up without killing people.
00:11:10.140 I think Tom Homan said 70% of the time we're going after blatant criminals.
00:11:16.800 Let's vocalize that.
00:11:17.940 It's not about, that's not how this works, though.
00:11:19.620 Sure.
00:11:19.960 Because when you're saying Trump has to clean it up.
00:11:22.680 Okay, so Rob, can you do me a favor, go to PBD Podcasts, Instagram, and go to the clip
00:11:28.860 of ICE in 2014 under Obama?
00:11:34.360 Just go under that, and there's a clip.
00:11:37.800 If you don't have it, I'll send it to you.
00:11:39.700 I'll forward it to you.
00:11:40.660 I want the audience to see this.
00:11:42.800 This is a CNN clip during Obama of what the ICE was doing, okay, at that time.
00:11:49.580 And look how they're covering it, how difficult their job is.
00:11:53.720 Go ahead, Rob, play this clip.
00:11:55.140 Go ahead.
00:11:59.180 Just before the sun rises in the windy city, immigration and customs enforcement agents
00:12:05.560 fan out across Chicago to arrest criminals in the U.S. illegally.
00:12:10.580 Attack one, attack two, attack three.
00:12:12.000 CNN was granted exclusive access to witness some of those raids.
00:12:19.580 How quiet it is.
00:12:21.940 Just watch, and then I'm going to show you something else right after.
00:12:26.920 We've got three targets this morning.
00:12:28.680 You know, some of the neighborhoods are a little sketchy, so we've got to make sure it's not
00:12:31.340 just the target we're looking after, but other people around us.
00:12:34.160 They want to come out extra early, like right now, because they want to catch these people
00:12:37.940 before they go to work.
00:12:39.080 That's why it starts so early in the morning.
00:12:41.060 Radio check.
00:12:41.700 All right, let's roll, guys.
00:12:43.040 Okay, you see that.
00:12:44.100 Now watch this.
00:12:44.880 Rob, can you do me a favor?
00:12:45.820 Go to that clip that I sent you.
00:12:48.380 Look at this.
00:12:49.560 Look at this.
00:12:50.800 Barack Obama in 2015 awarded Tom Homan the presidential award for service for making America
00:12:58.240 safer at ICE.
00:12:59.980 Ten years later, liberals want Tom Homan killed.
00:13:03.000 It's the same Tom, but a different Democratic Party.
00:13:06.160 What's the moral of the story here?
00:13:07.980 I don't think there is winning here for Trump.
00:13:10.280 I really don't think.
00:13:11.260 If you remember a year ago, it's probably 2020, it's not even a year ago, I would say
00:13:18.460 it's 2024 July, you know, August.
00:13:23.360 And we're talking about how many million, it was the month where there was a record-breaking
00:13:27.960 228,000 people that came in.
00:13:31.520 Could have even been, you know, November or October, record-breaking.
00:13:36.220 Most illegal immigrants crossing the border.
00:13:38.000 And then they said, this guy sends me a package.
00:13:43.540 I talked about this the other day briefly with whoever, the last Home Team podcast we
00:13:48.760 did with Ann Coulter.
00:13:49.880 The guy sends me a packet and he says, Patrick, this is going to be the nastiest thing to get
00:13:56.540 rid of all these people. 0.58
00:13:58.040 It's going to be so difficult.
00:13:59.100 And I'm reading the entire report at the house and all I thought about is the moment
00:14:04.300 they get in, the optics to do this many people to get rid of, there is no way you can do it.
00:14:11.840 Like I'm getting a call from a friend, very, somebody you guys all know, a friend, you know,
00:14:17.780 this is not good.
00:14:18.680 Why are you guys doing this?
00:14:19.560 I'm like, do you realize they're checking IDs of citizens?
00:14:24.120 That's what they're doing.
00:14:25.440 That's what they can do.
00:14:27.140 And that's what they're supposed to do.
00:14:28.940 To check to see if you have an ID or not.
00:14:30.720 Why do you have an ID?
00:14:32.120 So somebody can check your ID to find out if you're legal or not.
00:14:35.620 That is not illegal.
00:14:36.620 That's not something that they can't do.
00:14:38.300 But because it's going to go to the heart, there is no winning.
00:14:42.200 You said something, Trump's got to get a control of this.
00:14:45.220 Notice under Biden, there was no protesting.
00:14:48.280 Why not though?
00:14:49.120 Is it because Biden's such a great leader that there doesn't require protesting?
00:14:53.440 Or is it the fact that you have to make chaos seem under a president to not want it again?
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00:15:04.260 And the media is running with it in such a perfect way that the American people,
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