Valuetainment - May 03, 2021


The Price Of Winning & Why Its Worth It


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8 minutes

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231.80174

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1,986

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122


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Kobe Bryant's daughter asks him why he doesn't spend more time with her. He explains why it's more important to pursue his dreams than to spend time with his wife, kids, family, friends, etc.

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00:00:00.080 Something very emotional happened today.
00:00:01.600 Tim Grover was in town.
00:00:02.600 Tim Grover is the trainer of Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan.
00:00:04.760 He was on The Last Dance.
00:00:05.760 He wrote a book called Relentless, and his book is coming out, Winning, and he did his
00:00:09.240 first live interview with me here in Boca Raton, and we're sitting down talking, and
00:00:14.760 one of the chapters in his book, page 103, by the way, we've got to get his book, but
00:00:18.000 one of the chapters, page 103, he talks about how winning is selfish.
00:00:24.360 There is no such thing as balance in winning.
00:00:26.440 It just doesn't exist.
00:00:28.320 And he tells the story, he says, one day, he's packing his bags, he's getting ready
00:00:32.440 to go on the road, and he's traveling, right?
00:00:34.380 He's packing all this stuff, and he's getting ready to go.
00:00:37.000 And his five-year-old daughter looks at him and says, Daddy, where are you going?
00:00:40.680 He says, Daddy's traveling.
00:00:43.440 And the five-year-old daughter at the time says, why do you have to travel so much?
00:00:48.260 And Tim says, I have to travel a lot because Daddy travels so I can take care of you, Mommy,
00:00:55.820 so I can put food on the table.
00:00:57.320 And he says his five-year-old daughter takes a break, looks away, and then she comes back
00:01:01.560 and looks at his daddy.
00:01:02.560 And he says, when I heard these words, he says, it's the most difficult words I've ever
00:01:07.640 heard in my entire life.
00:01:08.640 That's what he says in his book.
00:01:10.000 I'm prefacing what he's saying, but that's pretty much what he's talking about with the
00:01:12.380 statement that she made to him.
00:01:15.320 Daughter looks at Tim and says, hey, Daddy, if I eat less, will you stay home more?
00:01:24.000 Did you hear what I just said?
00:01:25.680 She said, if I eat less, will you stay home more?
00:01:29.960 Because she's trying to say, what if I eat less so you can stay with me more often?
00:01:35.060 I asked him this question, and I'm reading his book.
00:01:39.680 Tim is sitting right in front of me.
00:01:41.240 You'll see it in the interview when he comes out on May 19th.
00:01:44.240 He's emotional.
00:01:45.240 I'm emotional.
00:01:46.240 I got a four-year-old daughter, soon to be five in the next few weeks.
00:01:50.460 I got a nine-year-old, and I got a seven-year-old, right?
00:01:53.120 And these are my kids.
00:01:54.120 I love these guys.
00:01:55.120 I said, how did you handle that?
00:01:56.120 He says, it wasn't easy.
00:01:57.120 He says, I thought about it all day long.
00:01:58.620 He said, but I packed the bags, and I still went on the road, because I was traveling with
00:02:02.040 Michael for 15 years.
00:02:03.200 That's what he was doing, constantly being with Michael all the time, right?
00:02:05.480 He's traveling.
00:02:06.480 He says, all I thought about is her.
00:02:09.000 He says, years later, I asked her.
00:02:10.620 I said, hey, I want to explain to you why I did what I did.
00:02:12.820 And the daughter says, you don't have to explain to me, Daddy.
00:02:15.320 I know exactly why you did what you did.
00:02:17.040 It's because you're going after your dreams.
00:02:18.760 You're going doing this.
00:02:19.760 You're doing that.
00:02:20.760 He says, the daughter says, I'm pursuing my dreams now.
00:02:23.280 And if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't have had that example.
00:02:26.040 So I said, how do you process this?
00:02:29.360 How many of us hit the wall when we get to a point where our daughter or son or somebody
00:02:35.580 doesn't even know they're doing what they're doing?
00:02:37.200 They give you that guilt, and you're like, I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing.
00:02:40.860 So then I went a little bit deeper.
00:02:41.860 I said, you know, we're talking about Kobe and Michael Jordan here.
00:02:44.080 He says, yes.
00:02:45.080 I said, the guilt concept, feeling bad because your kids or your parents or your wife or
00:02:49.660 your husband or somebody, is that a decision somebody else can sell you on?
00:02:53.800 Like meaning, can I sell you on, stop feeling guilty.
00:02:56.520 You shouldn't feel guilty.
00:02:57.600 You should.
00:02:58.600 You ought to go after your dreams.
00:03:00.560 He said, no.
00:03:01.600 It's a decision only you can make.
00:03:02.600 I said, I agree.
00:03:03.600 I've never tried to convince somebody to spend less time with their wife or their kids or anything.
00:03:08.060 It's more a decision you've got to make.
00:03:09.740 So I said, let me tell you a story.
00:03:10.920 We went to Louis Bassey, and we were eating there.
00:03:12.920 It was myself, himself, and Shuri, and we had a great time.
00:03:15.500 One of the best lunches we ever had.
00:03:17.920 We had a very good connection together.
00:03:19.640 And I said, I want to tell you a story about my dad.
00:03:22.640 He says, yeah, what's that?
00:03:24.360 I said, when I first had my son, Patrick Tico, he was six months old or something like that,
00:03:29.840 and I went to my dad.
00:03:30.840 I said, Dad, you know, when I was living in Iran with you, you would travel, you would
00:03:35.860 work six days out of the week, and you would leave 5 a.m. in the morning, and you'd come
00:03:39.560 home at 8.30, and you expected us to be in bed by 8 o'clock because of your standards,
00:03:44.480 so we wouldn't see you but Fridays.
00:03:46.360 And Iran Friday was a Saturday or Sunday of here.
00:03:49.360 I said, and on Sundays, you were an early bird, you'd wake us up at 6, we'd go to Parq
00:03:54.040 Esha and Shahi, then we'd go to church, a Syrian church, then we'd go to grandma's
00:03:58.040 house, eat her food, then we'd come back home, you'd take a two-hour nap, you'd listen to
00:04:01.980 your music with the headphones you would put on with the old music he would listen to,
00:04:06.040 then he would come back, have dinner, watch a movie, and then we'd go to sleep, right?
00:04:09.560 I said, when I calculate the days you spend with us in 10 years that we lived in Iran together
00:04:14.840 when you and mom were still together, it's 52 days a year times 10, 520 days out of 3,650
00:04:22.800 days.
00:04:23.900 You had 3,650 days in 10 years, but you only saw us 520 days.
00:04:29.800 Did it bother you?
00:04:30.800 Do you ever regret that as a father?
00:04:34.000 Without any hesitation.
00:04:35.000 I don't know what he's going to tell me.
00:04:36.000 Like, I'm 33 years old and I'm asking him this question.
00:04:38.020 No hesitation.
00:04:39.020 He says, no regrets.
00:04:40.020 I said, Dad, don't tell me this because you're protecting your ego.
00:04:43.000 Do you feel like you regret any of it?
00:04:44.640 Like you wish you would have worked less to spend more time with us?
00:04:46.820 He says, zero.
00:04:47.820 I said, come on, Dad.
00:04:49.920 You can't tell me that.
00:04:50.920 He says, I'm telling you, zero.
00:04:53.040 So now he's getting past it.
00:04:54.040 I said, why?
00:04:56.140 He says, what is my job as a father?
00:04:58.380 Isn't my job as a father to teach you and raise you to be strong so you can be independent
00:05:01.840 without having to rely on anybody else?
00:05:03.560 Meaning you can stand on your own two feet and you can go out there and take your own family
00:05:06.180 and take care of it.
00:05:07.180 Isn't that the job of a father?
00:05:08.180 He goes, how are you doing?
00:05:09.180 I said, I'm independent.
00:05:10.180 He said, then I did my job right.
00:05:12.180 He says, I don't regret any of it.
00:05:14.940 He says, I enjoyed every minute I had with you guys.
00:05:16.900 I had so much fun with you and Paulette.
00:05:19.440 I said, that's very good to hear because as a man now that I'm getting through the next
00:05:23.840 phase, I like hearing that from my own father.
00:05:26.020 But I said, I want to say something to you as well.
00:05:27.580 He says, what's that?
00:05:29.220 I said, it's crazy that I'm 33 thinking about this.
00:05:33.100 I'm 42 now when I talked to him about this.
00:05:35.300 I was 33.
00:05:36.420 I said, I'm 33 sitting here thinking about this with you and I also don't have any regrets
00:05:41.560 that you weren't there.
00:05:42.560 He says, what do you mean?
00:05:43.560 I said, to me, it was the normal thing.
00:05:45.320 Everybody in Iran, you're working.
00:05:46.280 I said, I saw other dads that weren't workers and sometimes they didn't have money and they
00:05:50.120 were going through challenges.
00:05:51.380 My daddy worked his ass off to provide.
00:05:54.880 How lucky I am to have a father that provided for me.
00:05:57.320 I said, I wanted you to know from me that I also have no guilt for you.
00:06:02.240 You're the best thing that ever happened to me as a father.
00:06:04.120 I love you and I appreciate your example.
00:06:06.500 We had a very unique moment together, right?
00:06:08.820 I got kids.
00:06:09.820 I'm kind of going through it.
00:06:10.820 And my dad and I have a very good relationship.
00:06:13.560 So let me wrap this up so you kind of get the idea with the point.
00:06:17.120 So Tim says, Pat, you know why I didn't feel guilty?
00:06:19.320 He says, what?
00:06:20.320 He says, if you're away from your family or you're at a bar getting drunk, you're a bad
00:06:25.320 if you're doing that because you don't have moral authority.
00:06:28.400 Why would you not spend time with your kids over drinking and going to a bar?
00:06:32.280 Why would you not want to be there instead of going and hanging out and just doing other
00:06:34.800 kind of stuff?
00:06:35.640 Why wouldn't you want to spend more time with your kids, right?
00:06:38.920 He didn't say you're a bad dad.
00:06:39.920 The point he's trying to make is the fact that, hey, you have options.
00:06:42.300 Why not go and spend time more with your kids?
00:06:44.700 He said, but if you're away from your kids, you better make it count and you better win.
00:06:50.560 That is the only way they're forgiven.
00:06:52.880 They'll forgive you, if you use that time to win.
00:06:56.200 This is why Kobe's kids loved him.
00:06:58.900 This is why Michael's kids, this is why anybody that lives and performs at the highest level,
00:07:04.600 at least the kids sit there and say, even though Daddy was away, even though Mommy was
00:07:07.760 away, at least he or she used that time wisely to win.
00:07:12.140 Then when there's experiences, you remind them, look where we are.
00:07:15.060 This is because Mommy and Daddy worked very hard.
00:07:16.800 So I was going through this, I know I did a video a few weeks ago about guilt, and I think
00:07:21.320 it's a topic that a lot of entrepreneurs and executives struggle with.
00:07:23.940 I wanted to kind of share with you what happened today because this was something that I shared
00:07:27.100 with you all day today.
00:07:28.100 I've been sharing this story because it's an incredible part of the book that I think everybody
00:07:30.920 needs to read about.
00:07:32.200 And hopefully it makes kind of an impact for you as it did for me.
00:07:36.520 Because I do know, as an entrepreneur, executive-driven person, at one point, you're going to hit
00:07:42.740 that wall where that guilt's going to be felt.
00:07:45.780 And anybody and everybody can give you advice.
00:07:47.920 I can tell you what to do, but at the end of the day, you have to make that decision yourself.
00:07:53.220 I made my choice to go after my vision because long term, I'd like to be able to set up a position
00:07:59.900 where these kids are in business with me in many, many different ways.
00:08:02.760 They don't have to do the same thing, all three of them, but I'd like long term for our family
00:08:07.080 to be closer simply because of the decisions Daddy's making today.
00:08:11.560 So having said that, look, I think to the right person, this is a video that can probably
00:08:14.320 impact your life and start thinking about some of the bigger decisions you need to make
00:08:17.000 in your life.
00:08:18.000 But if you didn't see my first interview with Tim Grover, the author of Relentless and a
00:08:22.820 newest book coming out called Winning, click over here to watch the interview.
00:08:26.800 I have a feeling you're going to take a lot away from this interview.
00:08:31.060 Take care, everybody.
00:08:33.060 Bye-bye.