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- May 03, 2021
The Price Of Winning & Why Its Worth It
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8 minutes
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231.80174
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1,986
Sentence Count
122
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Something very emotional happened today.
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Tim Grover was in town.
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Tim Grover is the trainer of Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan.
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He was on The Last Dance.
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He wrote a book called Relentless, and his book is coming out, Winning, and he did his
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first live interview with me here in Boca Raton, and we're sitting down talking, and
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one of the chapters in his book, page 103, by the way, we've got to get his book, but
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one of the chapters, page 103, he talks about how winning is selfish.
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There is no such thing as balance in winning.
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It just doesn't exist.
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And he tells the story, he says, one day, he's packing his bags, he's getting ready
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to go on the road, and he's traveling, right?
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He's packing all this stuff, and he's getting ready to go.
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And his five-year-old daughter looks at him and says, Daddy, where are you going?
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He says, Daddy's traveling.
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And the five-year-old daughter at the time says, why do you have to travel so much?
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And Tim says, I have to travel a lot because Daddy travels so I can take care of you, Mommy,
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so I can put food on the table.
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And he says his five-year-old daughter takes a break, looks away, and then she comes back
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and looks at his daddy.
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And he says, when I heard these words, he says, it's the most difficult words I've ever
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heard in my entire life.
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That's what he says in his book.
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I'm prefacing what he's saying, but that's pretty much what he's talking about with the
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statement that she made to him.
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Daughter looks at Tim and says, hey, Daddy, if I eat less, will you stay home more?
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Did you hear what I just said?
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She said, if I eat less, will you stay home more?
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Because she's trying to say, what if I eat less so you can stay with me more often?
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I asked him this question, and I'm reading his book.
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Tim is sitting right in front of me.
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You'll see it in the interview when he comes out on May 19th.
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He's emotional.
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I'm emotional.
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I got a four-year-old daughter, soon to be five in the next few weeks.
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I got a nine-year-old, and I got a seven-year-old, right?
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And these are my kids.
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I love these guys.
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I said, how did you handle that?
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He says, it wasn't easy.
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He says, I thought about it all day long.
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He said, but I packed the bags, and I still went on the road, because I was traveling with
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Michael for 15 years.
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That's what he was doing, constantly being with Michael all the time, right?
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He's traveling.
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He says, all I thought about is her.
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He says, years later, I asked her.
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I said, hey, I want to explain to you why I did what I did.
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And the daughter says, you don't have to explain to me, Daddy.
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I know exactly why you did what you did.
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It's because you're going after your dreams.
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You're going doing this.
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You're doing that.
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He says, the daughter says, I'm pursuing my dreams now.
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And if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't have had that example.
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So I said, how do you process this?
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How many of us hit the wall when we get to a point where our daughter or son or somebody
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doesn't even know they're doing what they're doing?
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They give you that guilt, and you're like, I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing.
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So then I went a little bit deeper.
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I said, you know, we're talking about Kobe and Michael Jordan here.
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He says, yes.
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I said, the guilt concept, feeling bad because your kids or your parents or your wife or
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your husband or somebody, is that a decision somebody else can sell you on?
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Like meaning, can I sell you on, stop feeling guilty.
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You shouldn't feel guilty.
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You should.
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You ought to go after your dreams.
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He said, no.
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It's a decision only you can make.
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I said, I agree.
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I've never tried to convince somebody to spend less time with their wife or their kids or anything.
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It's more a decision you've got to make.
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So I said, let me tell you a story.
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We went to Louis Bassey, and we were eating there.
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It was myself, himself, and Shuri, and we had a great time.
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One of the best lunches we ever had.
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We had a very good connection together.
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And I said, I want to tell you a story about my dad.
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He says, yeah, what's that?
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I said, when I first had my son, Patrick Tico, he was six months old or something like that,
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and I went to my dad.
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I said, Dad, you know, when I was living in Iran with you, you would travel, you would
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work six days out of the week, and you would leave 5 a.m. in the morning, and you'd come
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home at 8.30, and you expected us to be in bed by 8 o'clock because of your standards,
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so we wouldn't see you but Fridays.
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And Iran Friday was a Saturday or Sunday of here.
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I said, and on Sundays, you were an early bird, you'd wake us up at 6, we'd go to Parq
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Esha and Shahi, then we'd go to church, a Syrian church, then we'd go to grandma's
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house, eat her food, then we'd come back home, you'd take a two-hour nap, you'd listen to
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your music with the headphones you would put on with the old music he would listen to,
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then he would come back, have dinner, watch a movie, and then we'd go to sleep, right?
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I said, when I calculate the days you spend with us in 10 years that we lived in Iran together
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when you and mom were still together, it's 52 days a year times 10, 520 days out of 3,650
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days.
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You had 3,650 days in 10 years, but you only saw us 520 days.
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Did it bother you?
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Do you ever regret that as a father?
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Without any hesitation.
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I don't know what he's going to tell me.
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Like, I'm 33 years old and I'm asking him this question.
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No hesitation.
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He says, no regrets.
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I said, Dad, don't tell me this because you're protecting your ego.
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Do you feel like you regret any of it?
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Like you wish you would have worked less to spend more time with us?
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He says, zero.
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I said, come on, Dad.
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You can't tell me that.
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He says, I'm telling you, zero.
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So now he's getting past it.
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I said, why?
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He says, what is my job as a father?
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Isn't my job as a father to teach you and raise you to be strong so you can be independent
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without having to rely on anybody else?
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Meaning you can stand on your own two feet and you can go out there and take your own family
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and take care of it.
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Isn't that the job of a father?
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He goes, how are you doing?
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I said, I'm independent.
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He said, then I did my job right.
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He says, I don't regret any of it.
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He says, I enjoyed every minute I had with you guys.
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I had so much fun with you and Paulette.
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I said, that's very good to hear because as a man now that I'm getting through the next
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phase, I like hearing that from my own father.
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But I said, I want to say something to you as well.
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He says, what's that?
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I said, it's crazy that I'm 33 thinking about this.
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I'm 42 now when I talked to him about this.
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I was 33.
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I said, I'm 33 sitting here thinking about this with you and I also don't have any regrets
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that you weren't there.
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He says, what do you mean?
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I said, to me, it was the normal thing.
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Everybody in Iran, you're working.
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I said, I saw other dads that weren't workers and sometimes they didn't have money and they
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were going through challenges.
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My daddy worked his ass off to provide.
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How lucky I am to have a father that provided for me.
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I said, I wanted you to know from me that I also have no guilt for you.
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You're the best thing that ever happened to me as a father.
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I love you and I appreciate your example.
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We had a very unique moment together, right?
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I got kids.
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I'm kind of going through it.
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And my dad and I have a very good relationship.
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So let me wrap this up so you kind of get the idea with the point.
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So Tim says, Pat, you know why I didn't feel guilty?
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He says, what?
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He says, if you're away from your family or you're at a bar getting drunk, you're a bad
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if you're doing that because you don't have moral authority.
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Why would you not spend time with your kids over drinking and going to a bar?
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Why would you not want to be there instead of going and hanging out and just doing other
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kind of stuff?
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Why wouldn't you want to spend more time with your kids, right?
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He didn't say you're a bad dad.
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The point he's trying to make is the fact that, hey, you have options.
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Why not go and spend time more with your kids?
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He said, but if you're away from your kids, you better make it count and you better win.
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That is the only way they're forgiven.
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They'll forgive you, if you use that time to win.
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This is why Kobe's kids loved him.
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This is why Michael's kids, this is why anybody that lives and performs at the highest level,
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at least the kids sit there and say, even though Daddy was away, even though Mommy was
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away, at least he or she used that time wisely to win.
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Then when there's experiences, you remind them, look where we are.
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This is because Mommy and Daddy worked very hard.
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So I was going through this, I know I did a video a few weeks ago about guilt, and I think
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it's a topic that a lot of entrepreneurs and executives struggle with.
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I wanted to kind of share with you what happened today because this was something that I shared
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with you all day today.
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I've been sharing this story because it's an incredible part of the book that I think everybody
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needs to read about.
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And hopefully it makes kind of an impact for you as it did for me.
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Because I do know, as an entrepreneur, executive-driven person, at one point, you're going to hit
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that wall where that guilt's going to be felt.
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And anybody and everybody can give you advice.
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I can tell you what to do, but at the end of the day, you have to make that decision yourself.
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I made my choice to go after my vision because long term, I'd like to be able to set up a position
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where these kids are in business with me in many, many different ways.
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They don't have to do the same thing, all three of them, but I'd like long term for our family
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to be closer simply because of the decisions Daddy's making today.
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So having said that, look, I think to the right person, this is a video that can probably
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impact your life and start thinking about some of the bigger decisions you need to make
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in your life.
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But if you didn't see my first interview with Tim Grover, the author of Relentless and a
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newest book coming out called Winning, click over here to watch the interview.
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I have a feeling you're going to take a lot away from this interview.
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Take care, everybody.
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Bye-bye.
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