Valuetainment - March 26, 2025


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Hosted by
Patrick Bet-David
Mentioned
Sushir
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Length

5 minutes

Words per minute

171.29

Word count

914

Sentence count

118

Harmful content

Hate speech

2

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Summary

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In this episode, we talk about the case of Suchir Bhutani, a 26-year-old backpacker who went missing while backpacking in Catalina Island, California on the 22nd of July, 2019. His family and friends reported that he was missing from his backpacker backpacker campsite in the Catalina area, but no trace of him has ever been found. Did something happen to him?

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 Walk us through the sequencing of he's at Catalina Island.
00:00:05.060 He's backpacking, you know, hiking with his friends.
00:00:08.800 He comes back, I believe, the 21st, which is his birthday.
00:00:12.320 22nd.
00:00:12.600 He comes back on the 22nd.
00:00:14.660 21st is his birthday.
00:00:16.180 I think he turns 26 years old.
00:00:18.040 He's turned 26.
00:00:18.700 26 years old.
00:00:20.160 And this is him backpacking Catalina Island.
00:00:22.540 Yes.
00:00:23.220 And so he comes back 22nd.
00:00:25.820 Does he speak to that morning?
00:00:27.400 Does he speak to the family?
00:00:28.940 Walk us through that.
00:00:30.400 He spoke to me on the morning of his birthday.
00:00:33.080 He knows mom will be very anxious.
00:00:35.220 So he called himself at 945.
00:00:37.180 He said, I'm with my friends in the evening.
00:00:39.200 I won't have time.
00:00:40.060 So he called me off.
00:00:41.500 I wished him and I blessed him.
00:00:44.060 That blessing did not protect him.
00:00:45.740 I blessed him.
00:00:46.820 I made wishes to him.
00:00:48.820 He just wrapped up.
00:00:49.840 Then next morning, I think there was an instinctive message for me.
00:00:55.680 I saw four-year-old Sushir in my dream.
00:00:57.840 And that four-year-old boy was very thoughtful.
00:01:03.460 Very thoughtful.
00:01:04.780 Because I'm going to get another news.
00:01:06.440 That could be the thing.
00:01:07.460 I even have the evidence of texting it to Sushir.
00:01:10.180 And he just said, ha, ha, ha.
00:01:12.380 That was at 8.30 in the morning.
00:01:14.080 Again at 11, I checked with him.
00:01:16.880 He said, we are taking off now.
00:01:18.800 Is the weather good?
00:01:19.740 Is your flight delayed?
00:01:20.680 He said, I'm taking off now.
00:01:21.900 His flight was delayed.
00:01:22.900 But he didn't say, I'm taking off now.
00:01:25.460 And then at 4.45, I texted, like, it's pouring here in Union City.
00:01:30.380 How is it in San Francisco?
00:01:31.740 He said, yeah, it's pouring here.
00:01:33.420 And then he spoke to my husband at 7.12 p.m.
00:01:36.240 Yes, 7.12 around, I called him to wish him a birthday wish.
00:01:41.400 And I sent him a gift he accepted.
00:01:44.180 And I asked him how was his trip and also who are the friends that went with him
00:01:50.860 to check whether he was in a safe environment.
00:01:53.400 And I suggested going to CES, that is a conference in Las Vegas in January.
00:02:03.360 Yeah, he showed interest to come with me.
00:02:05.820 So those are the conversations we had.
00:02:08.040 And also in the end, he said, he's going to get his dinner.
00:02:12.880 So that's the last sentence.
00:02:15.500 22nd.
00:02:16.460 22nd at 7.12.
00:02:18.720 22nd at 7.30.
00:02:20.980 7.12.
00:02:21.640 7.12.
00:02:22.240 Okay, what happens next?
00:02:24.640 Oh, what happens next is, let me tell one more context.
00:02:27.460 1.33 p.m., we have seen the CCTV video of Suchir coming back home 0.76
00:02:32.340 with a huge suitcase from backpacking.
00:02:35.140 He looks very fit, very healthy, very happy.
00:02:38.580 Then 7.02, he goes out very quickly to get his dinner and comes back.
00:02:43.620 Even in that picture, even in that video, he seems perfectly normal.
00:02:48.080 We have seen activity on his browser history until 10.18 p.m.
00:02:52.120 One of the conversations he was searching for is, how do we lead a messenger conversation,
00:02:59.400 iMessage group conversation of three?
00:03:01.520 Am I, how do, and then the Google search he was reading was being sabotaged or something.
00:03:07.580 Was what?
00:03:08.840 Sabotaged, being.
00:03:09.980 Sabotaged.
00:03:10.480 Uh-huh.
00:03:10.740 Okay.
00:03:11.420 And another thing he was looking for was neuroscience.
00:03:17.560 And this is at 10.18, 10.30.
00:03:19.260 10.18 p.m., yes.
00:03:20.220 He's searching on Google about neuroscience.
00:03:24.020 He was researching.
00:03:25.300 Obviously, he was researching till then.
00:03:27.160 And I saw something you said about a black cat that he was researching.
00:03:29.900 He was searching about that, too, yes.
00:03:31.420 Because you guys had a conversation about a black cat or something like that.
00:03:33.980 Yeah, we had a conversation about a black cat.
00:03:35.300 And this is him.
00:03:37.060 This is the CCTV camera, right, when he's getting home.
00:03:40.300 And this is him getting the food at 7.30.
00:03:42.520 Yes, yes.
00:03:43.600 Okay.
00:03:44.540 So, okay, nothing on his pants.
00:03:48.060 Everything looks good.
00:03:49.480 He looks fine.
00:03:50.680 Yeah, you don't see any stains or anything on the, any scars.
00:03:54.600 He's listening to probably music or talking to somebody.
00:03:57.960 Okay, so nothing seems out of the ordinary.
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