Valuetainment - October 13, 2026


The Truth About Prophet Muhammad

Hosted by
Patrick Bet-David
Mentioned
Muhammad
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Length

6 minutes

Words per minute

188.91

Word count

1,147

Sentence count

69

Harmful content

Toxicity

1

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Hate speech

12

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Transcript

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00:00:00.000 What's the pattern? So to me, you know, sometimes you hear people say, you know,
00:00:04.760 they start off with being peaceful religious leaders, so then they gain power, then they use
00:00:11.960 the military against you, right? Do you notice a pattern of how they do to conquer places? 0.57
00:00:16.780 Yeah, yeah, and this is actually based on the life of Muhammad and how the Quran was revealed to him. 0.53
00:00:22.600 So if you look at the Quran amongst the scholars, the Muslim scholars, they divide it into the,
00:00:27.400 it's one Quran, of course, but they call it, there's the Mecca Quran and the Medina Quran.
00:00:31.800 What they mean by that is Muhammad's life was mostly, it begins in Mecca, this is where he's
00:00:37.400 born, and then he goes to Medina, all right? And there's a difference. So when he's in Mecca,
00:00:42.940 his early years, and he's preaching Islam, he's weak, he's outnumbered, he's being mocked,
00:00:48.020 and he has very, very few followers, most of them are just relatives and friends,
00:00:52.340 and he has no political power whatsoever. During that time, he starts getting revelations from
00:00:57.260 Allah, which are in the Quran. And this is where you get all these peaceful verses. Okay. Nothing
00:01:02.640 militant. It sounds, these are the verses that the Muslim apologists will constantly quote to you.
00:01:07.280 Okay. And there's so many of them. Then he goes to, and he also, you know, he wouldn't, he even,
00:01:15.520 some of the verses are about not fighting back. Sounds very Christian. Then he goes to Medina
00:01:19.940 and he becomes essentially a warlord. And this is, he starts becoming more powerful.
00:01:24.780 And at that point, he starts getting revelations that now if you're attacked, you can fight back.
00:01:30.140 Then he gets really powerful and starts conquering various tribes.
00:01:33.360 And then he gets the final revelation, which is now you have to go on the offensive.
00:01:37.220 And he does go on the offensive.
00:01:38.700 So even if someone doesn't attack him, you have to go conquer them.
00:01:42.060 All right.
00:01:42.180 Now, based on that, the ulama, the scholars have come up with two views.
00:01:47.260 One is, it's in Arabic, it's called al-nasikh wa-l-mansuq, which means the abrogated and the abrogator.
00:01:52.260 Which means, when you look at the Quran, because if you don't understand this, the verses contradict one another.
00:01:57.420 Some verses sound like pure bloodshed and murder, go slaughter.
00:02:01.440 Like 9.5 is known as the sword verse. 0.99
00:02:03.860 And it's just basically, you know, whenever the pagans lay in wait and ambush for them, you know, attack them, kill them, enslave them.
00:02:10.820 And then you have the peaceful verses that I mentioned.
00:02:13.200 So they concluded that the newer revelations that came into Muhammad's life have abrogated, which is to say canceled, the older. 0.85
00:02:20.280 So the final word on the matter is go on the offensive, okay?
00:02:23.940 The other view, which is very pertinent to today, is that, okay, no, the whole Quran still applies depending on your situation. 0.99
00:02:30.200 So if you find yourself in Muhammad's situation when he was in Mecca, outnumbered and surrounded by infidels, yeah, you can preach the tolerant verses. 0.99
00:02:38.140 If you find yourself now in a position where you're stronger, then yeah, you should go on the offensive and do the jihad, okay? 1.00
00:02:44.540 And this actually has been unwavering.
00:02:47.360 I've seen this all the time.
00:02:48.440 In Syria, I remember when ISIS came about and Iraq, you had all these multiple stories of Christians who basically said, we lived side by side with our Muslim neighbors for generations.
00:02:59.120 We've known each other. 1.00
00:03:00.100 We used to help them and take care of them because they were poor, the Muslims. 0.90
00:03:03.160 And the moment ISIS came, they completely betrayed them. 1.00
00:03:06.440 And they put, remember the noon, like the N for Nassara, the Christian? 0.54
00:03:10.640 They went and put it on the houses to identify where the infidel Christian lives.
00:03:15.180 And this isn't just one account. 0.94
00:03:16.900 It's multiple accounts.
00:03:18.200 So, and this goes back to another idea in Islam, which is circumstance.
00:03:22.000 Circumstance dictates behavior. 0.53
00:03:23.800 So if you're weak and outnumbered, I'll close with a funny story I've given before.
00:03:28.760 And it was with me and a Muslim colleague when I worked at the Library of Congress, you know, 20 years ago.
00:03:34.660 And I basically, I had this, I was learning this stuff.
00:03:37.940 And I was telling him, and he was like always moderate, claiming to be moderate.
00:03:41.320 But I saw a radical streak in him.
00:03:43.100 I know better.
00:03:44.060 And he would tell me, I told him about, well, what about abrogation?
00:03:47.440 what about this and the final word is you're supposed to do jihad and this and that and
00:03:51.800 finally he got frustrated and i and i made the point i said the mecca verses are tolerant but
00:03:56.760 the medina say and then he threw his hands up and said yeah but i'm in mecca so his point is i'm in
00:04:02.660 the circumstances of when muhammad was in mecca weak and outnumbered so of course i'm talking this
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