Valuetainment - ＂The Ultimate Puppet Master＂ - Will Trump SPLIT Push Musk Into Third Party Game？

00:00:00.000 Here's CNN Harry Anton talking about where Trump's at right now, more beloved amongst

00:00:03.920 Republicans than any. Watch this one here. Very weird. Watch this. Go ahead.

00:00:08.500 I mean, every politician would like this number here, especially to see it go up.

00:00:12.460 How about compared to other presidents who were Republicans?

00:00:15.700 Yeah, it's history making. It's history making. What are we talking about here?

00:00:19.140 So why don't we look back? We have all the presidents, Republican presidents going back

00:00:22.780 over the last 35, 36, 37 years. What are we talking about? GOP who strongly approved five

00:00:28.680 months in? Look at this. George H.W. Bush, Bush 41, 46 percent. Bush 43, 59. You see Trump the first

00:00:35.900 term, 53. But look at this. 63 percent. He beats all the other Republicans on the board here. And

00:00:42.820 I was looking even back since Reagan. And get this. Donald Trump beats Ronald Reagan when it comes to

00:00:48.600 the strongly approved five months. And of course, Reagan was coming off that high after that

00:00:52.080 assassination attempt. So the bottom line is Donald Trump is making history with the Republican base.

00:00:57.480 He is more beloved by this Republican base than any Republican base loved any GOP president

00:01:04.280 five months in. It is history making. So I'm going to go to this next story, which kind of coincides

00:01:09.920 with this. Elon Musk's, Trump's libertarian, libertarians seek partnership with Elon Musk.

00:01:17.420 Okay. Seek partnership with Elon Musk. So what does this mean? What does this mean? Let's go to this.

00:01:23.640 Because you saw the follow-up between the two, and it doesn't seem like it's slowing down anytime soon.

00:01:30.100 Libertarian National Committee Chair Stephen Achelia urged billionaire Musk to join the Libertarian Party

00:01:35.560 rather than start a new third party, stating making a third party would be a mistake. And the Libertarian

00:01:40.420 Party is the most set-up party to be the dissonant subservice party. He noted the party's budget is a million 1.00

00:01:46.520 dollars to three million dollars annually. Wow. That's not even a budget. While Musk spent over

00:01:51.760 250 million dollars in 2024 in his pact to support President Trump, he added once the capital is

00:01:59.000 there, the doors get blown wide open. He emphasized the Libertarian Party's established ballot access in

00:02:06.560 nearly every state, stating that there's no way independent or new party can actually do this.

00:02:10.900 Trump, can you pull up the poll of Elon Musk talking about should I start a third party? And then by

00:02:15.300 doing so, Musk escalated his feud with President Trump by supporting Republican Kentucky Representative

00:02:20.980 Thomas Massey's 2026 re-election, stating on X, I will when pressed on Monday and me on Tuesday in

00:02:27.460 response to a post about backing Massey's campaign. Musk criticized Trump's big, beautiful bill,

00:02:33.300 posting on X every member of Congress who campaigned. We read this last week that he's going to

00:02:37.340 campaign against them. I will try to. What's the word he used? What's the word he used that I'm

00:02:43.580 going to primary you out? Massey posing the bill for insufficient bills, spending cuts, 0.99

00:02:48.300 told the Daily Caller the political calculus that both the president and AIPAC have to consider is

00:02:52.840 if they go after me and lose, they've lost a lot of credibility. Here's the one. Is that the one,

00:02:57.740 Rob, that he talked about? No, it's a different poem. I'm still looking. So anyway, there's discussions

00:03:01.140 about polls. So now you heard about the popularity amongst Republicans. What are the chances,

00:03:07.100 you think Musk saw that clip? Which one? What is it like, Leo, that you think Musk saw the clip

00:03:12.200 about Trump's popularity being above Trump? Highly likely. 100%. Okay, so he's watching that.

00:03:20.040 When he sees that, what is he thinking long term? What is he thinking long term? Do you think

00:03:25.760 there's a high likelihood that Musk starts a third party, Tom? There's a video out there of that.

00:03:30.760 So yes, do I think he's going to try? I'm going to look for it right now. Yes, I think he's going to try

00:03:35.840 for two reasons. One is there is, there are a large number of voters that are the Lieberman voters,

00:03:44.060 that are the Joe Manchin voters, who are the edge independents from both parties, who are a little

00:03:51.920 fed up with both sides. And then there are those people that are true centrists, who believe that

00:03:58.860 we live in a uniparty. And so there is a certain percent of people that believe there is absolutely

00:04:04.220 uniparty. And then there are people that are frustrated Democrats and frustrated Republicans,

00:04:08.600 all of those coming together under one banner, call it the lavender, whatever you want to call it.

00:04:14.440 And I don't mean lavender, like LGBTQ, talking about true purple, right? In terms of red versus blue. 0.97

00:04:20.440 So do I think that, that Elon Musk is going to try to galvanize that support? He's, he has shown that

00:04:29.100 he can be impulsive and he uses his money as leverage. So I think, yes, I think he's going

00:04:34.260 to try. Now, how big of a swing of the ball would this be? I don't know, but I believe he's going to

00:04:39.180 try because I believe he's bitter. I believe that we see a lot of things coming out right now. And I

00:04:44.780 believe that this big, beautiful bill, we have not yet seen, and we're going to see it in earnings

00:04:49.680 reports. And I'm not going to go back to my analysis from last time, that there's a lot of

00:04:53.620 different angles that are going to impact Tesla. And I think he's pissed off.

00:04:56.400 You know, when Biden invited all the EV companies and he left one out, do you remember that one

00:05:01.400 meeting and he was so furious? And would you like to believe that that kind of lit the fuse

00:05:06.400 for a billionaire dancing on stage in Butler, Pennsylvania? So that's one, right? Do you

00:05:11.300 remember when Newsom did what he did to the county where, you know, Tesla's headquarters

00:05:16.500 were and he's like, wait a minute, you want to do this? I'm out, right? Do you remember all this?

00:05:19.960 Correct. Okay. So there's a pattern here. Okay. Remember how I said, you know, you have to watch

00:05:25.940 people politically on where their opinion comes from. Number one is bias. Number two is who

00:05:31.780 offended them. And there's different levels of being offended. There's those that are offended

00:05:35.720 and move on. And there's those that are offended that will never forget. And then there's those

00:05:39.700 that are offended that will never forget. And they will do everything in their power to seek

00:05:42.700 their vengeance. And those people typically, you know, don't necessarily, they don't have

00:05:48.940 a way to tap into their faith. It's tough, but I'm talking seeking vengeance at all costs 0.90

00:05:55.300 with negative vengeance, not positive. There is choose your enemies wisely that brings out

00:06:00.080 the best in you. There's choose your enemies wisely that brings out the worst in you. Musk

00:06:04.320 has been offended on the biggest stage in the world. There's not a stage bigger than that.

00:06:10.580 There just isn't. He got offended at the highest level. Is he able to reason and be fair?

00:06:16.060 I don't think so. I think those two are out the window. Would he be willing to spend billions

00:06:20.320 of dollars to start a third party? I think so. Do I think he will be successful? For sure.

00:06:25.280 Here's a poll that he ran, Rob. Glad you found it. Is it time to create a new political party

00:06:29.300 in America that actually represents the 80% in the middle? Yes. 80% said yes. He says 80% in 0.56

00:06:36.880 the middle and 80% said yes. And that's a good sample amount. That's 5.6 million people that

00:06:42.620 voted for this. Let's go a little bit lower, Rob. Does it show when this poll was? I just

00:06:48.140 want the date if you could find it. I'll find the date. Okay. I just wonder when this date

00:06:51.660 was. June 30th. June 30th. So that's a few days ago. That's not a long time ago. I think

00:06:56.720 if there's any guy that could start a third party and get a lot of support behind it and

00:07:02.240 completely disrupt the Republican Party and all of it is this guy. Go ahead and play this

00:07:08.580 clip, Rob. What's this about? This is the clip Vinny sent. Yeah. This might be one. And then

00:07:13.420 Pat, also, just to follow up on this one, do you remember when they asked him who would

00:07:16.960 be in the White House in 2032? That's a quick clip after this one I want to show you. You'll

00:07:22.020 remember it. I build rockets and cars and stuff. So what am I doing in politics? I don't want

00:07:30.040 to be in politics. I want to be clear. That is not my preference. I just like building stuff.

00:07:35.500 I like building products that people love. And I, you know, I derive joy from seeing people

00:07:43.260 enjoy the products that my companies make. I actually don't like politics at all. I hate

00:07:49.460 politics. But the stakes are so high here that I have had no choice but to take a stand.

00:08:01.120 So it's not something I want to do. And what is he saying here though? He's basically saying

00:08:05.240 like, I don't want, he's like basically, he doesn't say third party though. No, but, but

00:08:09.800 basically what he's saying is he, he doesn't like politics at all. But when this, this much

00:08:14.620 that's the, but you see the AI one, Pat, that he said, he's basically saying, they said,

00:08:19.180 who do you think is going to be the president in 2023? He's like, how do you know it's not

00:08:21.860 going to be an AI version of this or that? That one's a, that's, that's even a scary

00:08:25.820 one. But him, him saying he doesn't have to get involved, but when it's his money involved,

00:08:29.200 then he gets Rob, what's this clip? This is the AI question. Play the clip.

00:08:33.560 He's going to win the white house in 2024.

00:08:38.040 Who do you think will win the white house in 2032? Which type of AI? Transformers or the

00:08:42.960 fusion?

00:08:44.360 He's already going there. You know what I mean? The hell with 2024 to 2032. That's where he's

00:08:49.820 going.

00:08:50.060 He's the one guy that could start a third party and piss a lot of people off and disrupt

00:08:54.520 like ways we've never seen before. By the way, keep this in mind. Everything in negotiations

00:08:58.780 is about leverage, right? Long-term, where does he have negotiation? Where does he have

00:09:03.080 leverage? Starlink? You need it.

00:09:05.980 Iran, Starlink. Ukraine, Starlink. Hey, we need Starlink. Starlink, Starlink. Hey, can 0.73

00:09:09.820 you send Starlink? Begging him to send Starlink, right? Okay. All right. What's going to

00:09:16.980 happen with robots? Guess who's going to want a lot of robots? 0.92

00:09:19.460 Everybody. Military. Yes. Everybody. So the only leverage the government has is if they

00:09:25.520 keep giving the money to them and they stop that. If they stop funding him, if he's shown

00:09:32.480 this type of behavior after gathering billions of dollars from the U.S. government, I would

00:09:38.200 not be surprised if President Trump suddenly comes out and say the funding for Musk has

00:09:43.160 stopped. Then, do you think Musk can get funding from anywhere if he really wanted to? He can

00:09:49.160 get money from anywhere if he wants to. The opposition, 100%. Anywhere if he wants to.

00:09:53.100 So the sequencing of making some of these decisions, you have to be really thinking about what's

00:10:00.340 going to happen next with this. But I think if there's anybody that can do a third party,

00:10:03.420 it's him. Adam, your thoughts on this?

00:10:05.960 I don't think Elon is going to do this third party thing. I think if you just take him literally,

00:10:10.220 he don't want to be in politics. I think he kind of dipped his toe into the water. How long

00:10:15.100 did he last at Doge? Six months? And all of a sudden, he's back to basically colonizing

00:10:19.920 Mars. Anytime that somebody tries to start a third party, it's always easier said than

00:10:25.860 done. I agree that this two-party binary system is killing us, no doubt. But anytime that a 0.99

00:10:32.200 third party is mentioned, I always say one thing. Who's your candidate? Because if you look

00:10:37.480 at case examples, shout out to the BizDoc, the most successful libertarian candidate of all time

00:10:45.380 was Gary Johnson in 2016. He had 4.5 million votes, 3% of the popular vote, zero electoral votes.

00:10:53.700 And then we had the powerhouse in 2020 known as Joe Jorgensen. What a candidate. And she got 1.8

00:11:01.440 million votes, zero electoral college votes. Loserville. The last candidate that I remember who

00:11:06.840 actually kind of tipped an election was 2000, Ralph Nader, Green Party. He had, you know,

00:11:11.700 a million votes. The last successful candidate that was in a third party didn't win zero electoral

00:11:16.300 votes was, of course, Ross Perot in 92, right? He helped get Clinton elected. RFK, we thought he

00:11:23.560 was going to do great. You know, he's a Republican now, essentially. So all these candidates that come

00:11:27.780 out there and get paraded out there, they end up getting zero electoral votes. They end up making a

00:11:31.740 mess. And a lot of times they end up tipping the election to the team that you necessarily don't want

00:11:35.920 to win. And the last part is this. There's no infrastructure. If you look at the quote

00:11:39.460 where he says, there's no way an independent new party will actually do this due to time,

00:11:47.960 resources required, just like with RFK. So in my opinion, unless the Libertarian Party,

00:11:52.300 the Independent Party, whoever actually has a viable candidate, it's all just hot air.

00:11:56.660 No, this is not the regular guy. By the way, here's a difference.

00:12:00.680 But he can't run. No, I get that. He can fund somebody.

00:12:03.020 But that's even more powerful. But who's the candidate? That's even more powerful. He's

00:12:05.780 going to find his candidates. Here's the part you have to be thinking about. I'm okay. I'm just

00:12:09.060 trying to fix this thing. Is the following. You say he doesn't want to be in politics?

00:12:14.820 Bro. He said that. No, I get that. He is in politics. He's been in politics. The moment

00:12:21.820 you become a billionaire, and not even a billionaire, the moment you're public and you're worth

00:12:28.740 in the billions, let alone tens of billions, let alone hundreds of billions, you are in

00:12:34.740 politics. You don't have a choice. You are in politics. You are a politician. You are dealing

00:12:42.500 with all the lawmakers. You are dealing with all the lobbyists. You are dealing with all

00:12:46.600 these other prime ministers and presidents. Elon Musk is in politics. He doesn't have a

00:12:51.760 choice. He can never, ever leave politics. Ever. Whether you like it or not. This is

00:12:58.760 kind of how it goes. You ever see those videos where these celebrities say, you know, I miss

00:13:03.300 the days when I wanted to just go to Walmart and be able to buy something and all this other

00:13:08.240 stuff, right? Okay, great. And you lose that Walmart freedom of going to Walmart or Target

00:13:13.900 or whatever it is. This guy, he built something that's revolutionary, and now you don't want to

00:13:19.800 deal with politics. You don't have a choice. Every one of his biggest feuds, if you think about the

00:13:23.740 last few years, have been with politicians. Go ahead. Don't do politics. You don't have a choice.

00:13:29.540 If I'm an advisor and I'm sitting there in a room with him, I'm a friend or a family or somebody that 1.00

00:13:33.240 he's coming for counsel, he's like, I'm so sick and tired of dealing with these bullshit politicians 0.99

00:13:38.660 that one minute they promise this, one minute they say this, one minute they say that, I'm done with 1.00

00:13:42.500 politics. I'm going to say, no, Ilan, you can't. You don't have a choice. Your approach has to

00:13:49.020 change, but you don't have a choice of getting out of it. So for him, he doesn't like to be controlled.

00:13:54.500 He's the worst employee in the world because he doesn't need to be one. He believes in himself

00:14:00.680 so much that he doesn't like control. And the more he moves up, there's control. He can't stand

00:14:05.280 him. Again, my opinion. Can I push back on you a little bit? Of course you can push back. Yeah,

00:14:08.300 for sure. So here's where you're definitely right. And then here's where maybe there could

00:14:12.720 be an adjustment. So he's a hundred percent in politics. So, I mean, if you remember when

00:14:17.020 Trump ran in 2016, he's like, yeah, I know all the donors. I've given it to all these

00:14:20.940 people. I know what's going on here. You know, Hillary Clinton won't remove this tax deduction

00:14:25.400 because all her rich, famous friends use it. Same thing I would do. Right. So they're all

00:14:29.060 in politics. I totally agree. But there's a difference between being in politics, kind of playing

00:14:33.480 the game versus trying to basically start a new third party. That's like starting a new

00:14:39.160 startup. Right. I mean, you can appreciate that. You want to give seed capital, startup,

00:14:43.700 who's going to be your CEO. That's a whole nother level of getting involved in politics.

00:14:47.980 When I went to Brazil and we were there and we were dealing with all these guys, there

00:14:52.000 was a guy that everybody kept bringing up. And it's not a guy, you know, everybody kept

00:14:59.680 bringing up. Everybody kept bringing up. Everybody kept bringing up. And he was the

00:15:04.780 guy that had 21 percent of Brazil's voters. It was 14 to 21 percent who had, give me one

00:15:17.660 second. And so this guy had 14 to 21 percent of voters. And here's what it meant. He's never

00:15:26.500 going to be president. His candidates will never be president. But guess what? The road

00:15:31.440 to presidency only comes with you give him favors. If you piss him off, you ain't getting elected,

00:15:38.460 buddy. He controls it. OK. And there's a name for the guy. I'm going to I'm going to I don't

00:15:43.500 know what the guy's name was. This guy was so powerful. Everywhere I went, they would bring

00:15:49.160 up the sky. Everywhere I went, they would bring up the sky on the political party that

00:15:55.320 he had. Everybody. So if Musk gets to a point, I don't think it's that guy. It's a different

00:15:59.580 one. I would see his face. He's a good looking guy. Every every every time if this guy even

00:16:05.880 gets 15 percent, he doesn't need to be 51 percent. If he gets 15 percent, if he gets 18 percent,

00:16:13.120 if he gets 20 percent, he is the biggest throne. Every time midterms comes up, every

00:16:19.120 time elections comes up, the most hated man and the most powerful man is the man that only

00:16:23.940 controls 15 to 20 percent. He doesn't need 51 percent. So I think I think that's the one 0.84

00:16:29.540 by the way. Go back to the one Liberty part. That's it. That's the one right there.

00:16:33.340 Cyril Gomez. What I think this is the guy. What party is it that he controls?

00:16:38.260 The Democratic Labor Party. And what percentage do they have?

00:16:43.120 Yeah, I don't want to say 100 percent, but I that that that looks like it's the

00:16:47.000 guy 10 to 15 percent. That's the one where everybody everybody has to go through

00:16:53.420 this guy. It is the most annoying thing that they all were talking about.

00:16:58.540 And he knew the power that he had. And guess what? Every time you wanted to go

00:17:02.460 through him, it came with a bunch of favors you had to give to this guy.

00:17:05.800 And it was so annoying. It was so annoying that they had to go through this guy

00:17:09.280 every single flipping time. I'll try to find a name here in a minute.

00:17:13.120 And give it so we know. Who's that person? Huh? Who's that person in America, meaning?

00:17:17.760 No, that could be Elon. That that gives Elon full control. If Elon has influence over

00:17:25.160 a party, you don't have to be somebody that. So then Elon is just a puppet master of

00:17:29.740 whatever candidate shows up. No, no. And then his leverage is, all right, if you don't

00:17:33.780 back me, the other team is going to win. It's still going to be a Republican or a Democrat

00:17:37.500 that wins. He becomes every candidate's boss. He becomes the ultimate puppet master.

00:17:44.040 And you can't F with him. You cannot. I don't think we want that, do we?

00:17:47.920 It's not that. You don't have a choice, buddy. You know, this whole thing with Muslims, you 1.00

00:17:53.000 know, they're growing the Mecca in Plano, whatever they're building. What was it called?

00:17:57.360 Epic City. What was it called in Dallas? Epic City. Yeah, go ahead. The Constitution says

00:18:01.700 they can do it. Unless if you say no one in Muslim, Islam can be in the States building 1.00

00:18:08.880 Meccas, these guys are going to keep building. You don't have a choice of a guy wanting to

00:18:13.020 build a third party. Say whatever you want to say. I'm building my third party. Go ahead,

00:18:17.160 do something about it. No, it's not that whether we want it or not. Competition works that way.

00:18:22.360 You just offended the wealthiest man in America on the highest level of public stage and everybody

00:18:28.980 saw it. Everybody saw it. You think he's going to forget? Have you read his book? Have you read

00:18:33.740 his book to see what this guy's wiring is on? I don't think it's going to go away anytime soon.

00:18:38.880 Once a year, we host an event called The Vault Conference. If you're somebody that either runs

00:18:45.020 a business, you're a married couple, husband and wife, life's been kind of flatlining lately.

00:18:51.500 There's not been too much things that are growing in ways, business, personal, financial,

00:18:56.980 and you kind of want to call a time out and get away and spend four days with 3,000 other

00:19:01.920 couples and nearly 12,000 people in the same room together to strategize the future of your

00:19:07.420 life with your kids, being intentional about it, I highly, highly recommend you attend The Vault

00:19:12.040 Conference. It's the only conference you can go to where the attendees are comfortable talking

00:19:17.220 about business, are comfortable talking about money, are comfortable talking about politics,

00:19:21.860 are comfortable talking about family values, and no one cares. No one walks on egg shows.

00:19:25.960 You go to some business conference, oh, we can't talk about politics. We talk about

00:19:29.980 everything. If that's appealing to you, do whatever you can to go to The Vault Conference.

00:19:34.500 Here's a video I did with my patient. Here's a doctor sitting down as a therapist, sitting

00:19:43.760 down with his patient, and guess who his patient is? Rob, go ahead and play the clip.

00:19:46.980 Matthew, who's my next patient?

00:19:49.000 Me too, Sean.

00:19:50.000 Oh, this one's going to be tough. I've got to take the jacket off for this one.

00:19:55.520 Okay, so what's been happening lately?

00:19:57.440 Oh, nothing positive. I'll tell you that, Doc. Just, you know, work is crazy. My marriage

00:20:03.440 is hanging on by a thread. I know we talked about that last time I was here. The kids are

00:20:06.920 freaking screaming and yelling all the time. The business is bleeding cash. I can't breathe.

00:20:11.980 So, like, what do I do? Let me ask you, Sean. When's the last time you and your wife sat

00:20:16.240 down and actually mapped out your next five, 10, 15 moves, personal life and your business

00:20:21.340 life? Never. The only thing we've ever mapped out was our Disneyland trip, just, like, which

00:20:25.460 rides the goal is. That's one day, though. But I'm talking, like, five, 10, 15, 20 years

00:20:30.000 from now. You guys have never done that? Never.

00:20:31.820 Do you guys read books together? Do you spend a lot of time reading lately or no?

00:20:35.380 I don't know about her, but the last thing I read was the back of a shampoo bottle while I was

00:20:38.640 in the bathroom. I know, but you should see the stuff that's in there. These are actually

00:20:41.600 really interesting stuff, but I'm talking, like, life and business.

00:20:44.520 No. Nothing? Nope. Okay. We don't have time.

00:20:47.860 Does this sound familiar to you? Do you listen to anything he said and say,

00:20:50.780 that's a little bit of me? When is the last time you and your wife took a timeout, 0.74

00:20:54.500 went away to a business conference to identify your next five, 10, 15 moves? If you've never done that,

00:21:01.840 we host a conference once a year called The Ball Conference from September 8th to the 11th.

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Valuetainment - July 04, 2025

＂The Ultimate Puppet Master＂ - Will Trump SPLIT Push Musk Into Third Party Game？

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