＂The Ultimate Puppet Master＂ - Will Trump SPLIT Push Musk Into Third Party Game？
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Trump is more popular than any other Republican president in history. Elon Musk joins forces with a conservative politician, and AIPAC is under pressure from both sides of the political aisle. The future of the 2020 Democratic primary race hangs in the balance.
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Here's CNN Harry Anton talking about where Trump's at right now, more beloved amongst
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Republicans than any. Watch this one here. Very weird. Watch this. Go ahead.
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I mean, every politician would like this number here, especially to see it go up.
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How about compared to other presidents who were Republicans?
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Yeah, it's history making. It's history making. What are we talking about here?
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So why don't we look back? We have all the presidents, Republican presidents going back
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over the last 35, 36, 37 years. What are we talking about? GOP who strongly approved five
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months in? Look at this. George H.W. Bush, Bush 41, 46 percent. Bush 43, 59. You see Trump the first
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term, 53. But look at this. 63 percent. He beats all the other Republicans on the board here. And
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I was looking even back since Reagan. And get this. Donald Trump beats Ronald Reagan when it comes to
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the strongly approved five months. And of course, Reagan was coming off that high after that
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assassination attempt. So the bottom line is Donald Trump is making history with the Republican base.
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He is more beloved by this Republican base than any Republican base loved any GOP president
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five months in. It is history making. So I'm going to go to this next story, which kind of coincides
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with this. Elon Musk's, Trump's libertarian, libertarians seek partnership with Elon Musk.
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Okay. Seek partnership with Elon Musk. So what does this mean? What does this mean? Let's go to this.
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Because you saw the follow-up between the two, and it doesn't seem like it's slowing down anytime soon.
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Libertarian National Committee Chair Stephen Achelia urged billionaire Musk to join the Libertarian Party
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rather than start a new third party, stating making a third party would be a mistake. And the Libertarian
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Party is the most set-up party to be the dissonant subservice party. He noted the party's budget is a million
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dollars to three million dollars annually. Wow. That's not even a budget. While Musk spent over
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250 million dollars in 2024 in his pact to support President Trump, he added once the capital is
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there, the doors get blown wide open. He emphasized the Libertarian Party's established ballot access in
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nearly every state, stating that there's no way independent or new party can actually do this.
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Trump, can you pull up the poll of Elon Musk talking about should I start a third party? And then by
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doing so, Musk escalated his feud with President Trump by supporting Republican Kentucky Representative
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Thomas Massey's 2026 re-election, stating on X, I will when pressed on Monday and me on Tuesday in
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response to a post about backing Massey's campaign. Musk criticized Trump's big, beautiful bill,
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posting on X every member of Congress who campaigned. We read this last week that he's going to
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campaign against them. I will try to. What's the word he used? What's the word he used that I'm
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going to primary you out? Massey posing the bill for insufficient bills, spending cuts,
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told the Daily Caller the political calculus that both the president and AIPAC have to consider is
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if they go after me and lose, they've lost a lot of credibility. Here's the one. Is that the one,
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Rob, that he talked about? No, it's a different poem. I'm still looking. So anyway, there's discussions
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about polls. So now you heard about the popularity amongst Republicans. What are the chances,
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you think Musk saw that clip? Which one? What is it like, Leo, that you think Musk saw the clip
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about Trump's popularity being above Trump? Highly likely. 100%. Okay, so he's watching that.
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When he sees that, what is he thinking long term? What is he thinking long term? Do you think
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there's a high likelihood that Musk starts a third party, Tom? There's a video out there of that.
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So yes, do I think he's going to try? I'm going to look for it right now. Yes, I think he's going to try
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for two reasons. One is there is, there are a large number of voters that are the Lieberman voters,
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that are the Joe Manchin voters, who are the edge independents from both parties, who are a little
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fed up with both sides. And then there are those people that are true centrists, who believe that
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we live in a uniparty. And so there is a certain percent of people that believe there is absolutely
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uniparty. And then there are people that are frustrated Democrats and frustrated Republicans,
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all of those coming together under one banner, call it the lavender, whatever you want to call it.
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And I don't mean lavender, like LGBTQ, talking about true purple, right? In terms of red versus blue.
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So do I think that, that Elon Musk is going to try to galvanize that support? He's, he has shown that
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he can be impulsive and he uses his money as leverage. So I think, yes, I think he's going
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to try. Now, how big of a swing of the ball would this be? I don't know, but I believe he's going to
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try because I believe he's bitter. I believe that we see a lot of things coming out right now. And I
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believe that this big, beautiful bill, we have not yet seen, and we're going to see it in earnings
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reports. And I'm not going to go back to my analysis from last time, that there's a lot of
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different angles that are going to impact Tesla. And I think he's pissed off.
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You know, when Biden invited all the EV companies and he left one out, do you remember that one
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meeting and he was so furious? And would you like to believe that that kind of lit the fuse
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for a billionaire dancing on stage in Butler, Pennsylvania? So that's one, right? Do you
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remember when Newsom did what he did to the county where, you know, Tesla's headquarters
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were and he's like, wait a minute, you want to do this? I'm out, right? Do you remember all this?
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Correct. Okay. So there's a pattern here. Okay. Remember how I said, you know, you have to watch
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people politically on where their opinion comes from. Number one is bias. Number two is who
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offended them. And there's different levels of being offended. There's those that are offended
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and move on. And there's those that are offended that will never forget. And then there's those
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that are offended that will never forget. And they will do everything in their power to seek
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their vengeance. And those people typically, you know, don't necessarily, they don't have
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a way to tap into their faith. It's tough, but I'm talking seeking vengeance at all costs
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with negative vengeance, not positive. There is choose your enemies wisely that brings out
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the best in you. There's choose your enemies wisely that brings out the worst in you. Musk
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has been offended on the biggest stage in the world. There's not a stage bigger than that.
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There just isn't. He got offended at the highest level. Is he able to reason and be fair?
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I don't think so. I think those two are out the window. Would he be willing to spend billions
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of dollars to start a third party? I think so. Do I think he will be successful? For sure.
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Here's a poll that he ran, Rob. Glad you found it. Is it time to create a new political party
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in America that actually represents the 80% in the middle? Yes. 80% said yes. He says 80% in
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the middle and 80% said yes. And that's a good sample amount. That's 5.6 million people that
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voted for this. Let's go a little bit lower, Rob. Does it show when this poll was? I just
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want the date if you could find it. I'll find the date. Okay. I just wonder when this date
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was. June 30th. June 30th. So that's a few days ago. That's not a long time ago. I think
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if there's any guy that could start a third party and get a lot of support behind it and
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completely disrupt the Republican Party and all of it is this guy. Go ahead and play this
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clip, Rob. What's this about? This is the clip Vinny sent. Yeah. This might be one. And then
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Pat, also, just to follow up on this one, do you remember when they asked him who would
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be in the White House in 2032? That's a quick clip after this one I want to show you. You'll
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remember it. I build rockets and cars and stuff. So what am I doing in politics? I don't want
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to be in politics. I want to be clear. That is not my preference. I just like building stuff.
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I like building products that people love. And I, you know, I derive joy from seeing people
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enjoy the products that my companies make. I actually don't like politics at all. I hate
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politics. But the stakes are so high here that I have had no choice but to take a stand.
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So it's not something I want to do. And what is he saying here though? He's basically saying
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like, I don't want, he's like basically, he doesn't say third party though. No, but, but
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basically what he's saying is he, he doesn't like politics at all. But when this, this much
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that's the, but you see the AI one, Pat, that he said, he's basically saying, they said,
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who do you think is going to be the president in 2023? He's like, how do you know it's not
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going to be an AI version of this or that? That one's a, that's, that's even a scary
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one. But him, him saying he doesn't have to get involved, but when it's his money involved,
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then he gets Rob, what's this clip? This is the AI question. Play the clip.
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Who do you think will win the white house in 2032? Which type of AI? Transformers or the
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He's already going there. You know what I mean? The hell with 2024 to 2032. That's where he's
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He's the one guy that could start a third party and piss a lot of people off and disrupt
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like ways we've never seen before. By the way, keep this in mind. Everything in negotiations
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is about leverage, right? Long-term, where does he have negotiation? Where does he have
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Iran, Starlink. Ukraine, Starlink. Hey, we need Starlink. Starlink, Starlink. Hey, can
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you send Starlink? Begging him to send Starlink, right? Okay. All right. What's going to
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happen with robots? Guess who's going to want a lot of robots?
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Everybody. Military. Yes. Everybody. So the only leverage the government has is if they
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keep giving the money to them and they stop that. If they stop funding him, if he's shown
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this type of behavior after gathering billions of dollars from the U.S. government, I would
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not be surprised if President Trump suddenly comes out and say the funding for Musk has
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stopped. Then, do you think Musk can get funding from anywhere if he really wanted to? He can
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get money from anywhere if he wants to. The opposition, 100%. Anywhere if he wants to.
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So the sequencing of making some of these decisions, you have to be really thinking about what's
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going to happen next with this. But I think if there's anybody that can do a third party,
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I don't think Elon is going to do this third party thing. I think if you just take him literally,
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he don't want to be in politics. I think he kind of dipped his toe into the water. How long
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did he last at Doge? Six months? And all of a sudden, he's back to basically colonizing
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Mars. Anytime that somebody tries to start a third party, it's always easier said than
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done. I agree that this two-party binary system is killing us, no doubt. But anytime that a
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third party is mentioned, I always say one thing. Who's your candidate? Because if you look
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at case examples, shout out to the BizDoc, the most successful libertarian candidate of all time
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was Gary Johnson in 2016. He had 4.5 million votes, 3% of the popular vote, zero electoral votes.
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And then we had the powerhouse in 2020 known as Joe Jorgensen. What a candidate. And she got 1.8
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million votes, zero electoral college votes. Loserville. The last candidate that I remember who
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actually kind of tipped an election was 2000, Ralph Nader, Green Party. He had, you know,
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a million votes. The last successful candidate that was in a third party didn't win zero electoral
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votes was, of course, Ross Perot in 92, right? He helped get Clinton elected. RFK, we thought he
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was going to do great. You know, he's a Republican now, essentially. So all these candidates that come
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out there and get paraded out there, they end up getting zero electoral votes. They end up making a
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mess. And a lot of times they end up tipping the election to the team that you necessarily don't want
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to win. And the last part is this. There's no infrastructure. If you look at the quote
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where he says, there's no way an independent new party will actually do this due to time,
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resources required, just like with RFK. So in my opinion, unless the Libertarian Party,
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the Independent Party, whoever actually has a viable candidate, it's all just hot air.
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No, this is not the regular guy. By the way, here's a difference.
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But he can't run. No, I get that. He can fund somebody.
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But that's even more powerful. But who's the candidate? That's even more powerful. He's
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going to find his candidates. Here's the part you have to be thinking about. I'm okay. I'm just
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trying to fix this thing. Is the following. You say he doesn't want to be in politics?
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Bro. He said that. No, I get that. He is in politics. He's been in politics. The moment
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you become a billionaire, and not even a billionaire, the moment you're public and you're worth
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in the billions, let alone tens of billions, let alone hundreds of billions, you are in
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politics. You don't have a choice. You are in politics. You are a politician. You are dealing
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with all the lawmakers. You are dealing with all the lobbyists. You are dealing with all
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these other prime ministers and presidents. Elon Musk is in politics. He doesn't have a
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choice. He can never, ever leave politics. Ever. Whether you like it or not. This is
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kind of how it goes. You ever see those videos where these celebrities say, you know, I miss
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the days when I wanted to just go to Walmart and be able to buy something and all this other
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stuff, right? Okay, great. And you lose that Walmart freedom of going to Walmart or Target
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or whatever it is. This guy, he built something that's revolutionary, and now you don't want to
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deal with politics. You don't have a choice. Every one of his biggest feuds, if you think about the
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last few years, have been with politicians. Go ahead. Don't do politics. You don't have a choice.
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If I'm an advisor and I'm sitting there in a room with him, I'm a friend or a family or somebody that
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he's coming for counsel, he's like, I'm so sick and tired of dealing with these bullshit politicians
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that one minute they promise this, one minute they say this, one minute they say that, I'm done with
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politics. I'm going to say, no, Ilan, you can't. You don't have a choice. Your approach has to
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change, but you don't have a choice of getting out of it. So for him, he doesn't like to be controlled.
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He's the worst employee in the world because he doesn't need to be one. He believes in himself
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so much that he doesn't like control. And the more he moves up, there's control. He can't stand
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him. Again, my opinion. Can I push back on you a little bit? Of course you can push back. Yeah,
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for sure. So here's where you're definitely right. And then here's where maybe there could
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be an adjustment. So he's a hundred percent in politics. So, I mean, if you remember when
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Trump ran in 2016, he's like, yeah, I know all the donors. I've given it to all these
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people. I know what's going on here. You know, Hillary Clinton won't remove this tax deduction
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because all her rich, famous friends use it. Same thing I would do. Right. So they're all
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in politics. I totally agree. But there's a difference between being in politics, kind of playing
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the game versus trying to basically start a new third party. That's like starting a new
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startup. Right. I mean, you can appreciate that. You want to give seed capital, startup,
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who's going to be your CEO. That's a whole nother level of getting involved in politics.
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When I went to Brazil and we were there and we were dealing with all these guys, there
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was a guy that everybody kept bringing up. And it's not a guy, you know, everybody kept
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bringing up. Everybody kept bringing up. Everybody kept bringing up. And he was the
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guy that had 21 percent of Brazil's voters. It was 14 to 21 percent who had, give me one
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second. And so this guy had 14 to 21 percent of voters. And here's what it meant. He's never
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going to be president. His candidates will never be president. But guess what? The road
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to presidency only comes with you give him favors. If you piss him off, you ain't getting elected,
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buddy. He controls it. OK. And there's a name for the guy. I'm going to I'm going to I don't
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know what the guy's name was. This guy was so powerful. Everywhere I went, they would bring
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up the sky. Everywhere I went, they would bring up the sky on the political party that
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he had. Everybody. So if Musk gets to a point, I don't think it's that guy. It's a different
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one. I would see his face. He's a good looking guy. Every every every time if this guy even
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gets 15 percent, he doesn't need to be 51 percent. If he gets 15 percent, if he gets 18 percent,
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if he gets 20 percent, he is the biggest throne. Every time midterms comes up, every
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time elections comes up, the most hated man and the most powerful man is the man that only
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controls 15 to 20 percent. He doesn't need 51 percent. So I think I think that's the one
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by the way. Go back to the one Liberty part. That's it. That's the one right there.
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Cyril Gomez. What I think this is the guy. What party is it that he controls?
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The Democratic Labor Party. And what percentage do they have?
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Yeah, I don't want to say 100 percent, but I that that that looks like it's the
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guy 10 to 15 percent. That's the one where everybody everybody has to go through
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this guy. It is the most annoying thing that they all were talking about.
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And he knew the power that he had. And guess what? Every time you wanted to go
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through him, it came with a bunch of favors you had to give to this guy.
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And it was so annoying. It was so annoying that they had to go through this guy
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every single flipping time. I'll try to find a name here in a minute.
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And give it so we know. Who's that person? Huh? Who's that person in America, meaning?
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No, that could be Elon. That that gives Elon full control. If Elon has influence over
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a party, you don't have to be somebody that. So then Elon is just a puppet master of
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whatever candidate shows up. No, no. And then his leverage is, all right, if you don't
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back me, the other team is going to win. It's still going to be a Republican or a Democrat
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that wins. He becomes every candidate's boss. He becomes the ultimate puppet master.
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And you can't F with him. You cannot. I don't think we want that, do we?
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It's not that. You don't have a choice, buddy. You know, this whole thing with Muslims, you
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know, they're growing the Mecca in Plano, whatever they're building. What was it called?
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Epic City. What was it called in Dallas? Epic City. Yeah, go ahead. The Constitution says
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they can do it. Unless if you say no one in Muslim, Islam can be in the States building
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Meccas, these guys are going to keep building. You don't have a choice of a guy wanting to
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build a third party. Say whatever you want to say. I'm building my third party. Go ahead,
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do something about it. No, it's not that whether we want it or not. Competition works that way.
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You just offended the wealthiest man in America on the highest level of public stage and everybody
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saw it. Everybody saw it. You think he's going to forget? Have you read his book? Have you read
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his book to see what this guy's wiring is on? I don't think it's going to go away anytime soon.
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Here's a video I did with my patient. Here's a doctor sitting down as a therapist, sitting
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down with his patient, and guess who his patient is? Rob, go ahead and play the clip.
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Oh, this one's going to be tough. I've got to take the jacket off for this one.
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Oh, nothing positive. I'll tell you that, Doc. Just, you know, work is crazy. My marriage
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is hanging on by a thread. I know we talked about that last time I was here. The kids are
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freaking screaming and yelling all the time. The business is bleeding cash. I can't breathe.
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So, like, what do I do? Let me ask you, Sean. When's the last time you and your wife sat
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down and actually mapped out your next five, 10, 15 moves, personal life and your business
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life? Never. The only thing we've ever mapped out was our Disneyland trip, just, like, which
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rides the goal is. That's one day, though. But I'm talking, like, five, 10, 15, 20 years
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from now. You guys have never done that? Never.
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Do you guys read books together? Do you spend a lot of time reading lately or no?
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I don't know about her, but the last thing I read was the back of a shampoo bottle while I was
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in the bathroom. I know, but you should see the stuff that's in there. These are actually
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really interesting stuff, but I'm talking, like, life and business.
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Does this sound familiar to you? Do you listen to anything he said and say,
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that's a little bit of me? When is the last time you and your wife took a timeout,
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went away to a business conference to identify your next five, 10, 15 moves? If you've never done that,
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