Valuetainment - June 16, 2025


＂They JUMPED Me On The Court!＂ - Metta World Peace REACTS to Malice At the Palace Fight


Episode Stats

Length

19 minutes

Words per Minute

219.26642

Word Count

4,330

Sentence Count

594

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

In this episode, the guys talk about their favorite moments in the NBA, Kobe's impact on the league, and Kobe's relationship with Shaquille O'Neal. The guys also discuss Kobe's legacy in the league and the impact he had on the culture.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So let's talk about, you know, here's an interesting stat.
00:00:03.760 I looked up who has been suspended,
00:00:06.320 who got the biggest suspension in the NBA ever.
00:00:08.540 O.J. Mayo's first place.
00:00:09.580 I didn't know that, by the way.
00:00:10.380 It was 162 games for, what was it?
00:00:12.900 I think it was steroids.
00:00:14.040 Was it steroids?
00:00:15.060 O.J. Mayo didn't look like he used steroids.
00:00:18.140 O.J. Mayo, he used steroids?
00:00:21.200 Substance, probably disclosed the levels,
00:00:22.880 typically drugs of abuse.
00:00:24.380 It wasn't marijuana.
00:00:25.320 You're not going to get suspended that long for marijuana, right?
00:00:27.120 Okay, well, anyways, he got a hundred.
00:00:28.100 Probably not for marijuana.
00:00:28.840 He got 162 games, give or take, okay?
00:00:33.000 Then yours was 86 games.
00:00:35.600 Yeah, too many games.
00:00:36.640 Yeah, and then third place was interesting, was Latrell Sprewell.
00:00:39.940 Oh.
00:00:40.540 Yeah, 68.
00:00:41.460 Oh, yeah.
00:00:41.900 The whole when he, you know, choked Rudy Tomjanovich.
00:00:44.520 No, no, no, no, who was it?
00:00:45.540 P.J. Carlissimo.
00:00:45.980 P.J. Carlissimo, yeah.
00:00:47.580 Rudy Tomjanovich is the one that got punched in the face
00:00:49.600 back in the days when he played.
00:00:50.600 I don't know if you know about this or that.
00:00:51.180 Oh, yeah, of course.
00:00:51.720 I think it was Larry.
00:00:52.940 No, Julius Erving.
00:00:54.020 No, no, no.
00:00:54.620 You're thinking Larry, no.
00:00:55.960 Completely different guy, big guy.
00:00:57.200 Yeah, he's a nice guy.
00:00:59.260 Punched him in the face, broke his jaw, and he had to sip.
00:01:03.100 Who punched Rudy?
00:01:04.060 You can type who punched Rudy.
00:01:05.740 But anyways, and by the way, Latrell Sprewell to me
00:01:07.680 was one of the most exciting.
00:01:09.560 These guys at the time had who?
00:01:10.880 Billy Owens.
00:01:11.800 They had a very exciting squad, right, at the time.
00:01:14.780 Maybe even Mullen was on the team with him.
00:01:16.880 But with you, Malice at the Palace, right?
00:01:19.800 You know things change when a sport creates new rules.
00:01:27.600 After that game, they never allowed glass drinks because of that game.
00:01:32.440 Did you know this?
00:01:33.180 The last time they allowed glass drinks in the NBA was at this game.
00:01:38.680 After this, they said, moving forward, there's no more glass drinks.
00:01:41.080 And no more drinking in the fourth quarter.
00:01:43.180 Is that what they, no more drinking in the fourth quarter?
00:01:45.740 Alcohol stops in the fourth.
00:01:46.960 I think now it stops in the fourth quarter.
00:01:48.420 So, look, I've heard this story God knows how many times.
00:01:52.520 It never gets old.
00:01:53.160 My son Dylan, you know, if he sits there and he wants to watch some video sports,
00:01:57.880 he says, Dad, can we watch Malice at the Palace?
00:02:00.220 Somebody, you can watch Ronaldo score a goal, Messi score.
00:02:03.060 I want to watch Malice at the Palace.
00:02:05.600 Walk us through what happened here.
00:02:07.320 I don't even think the foul was that big of a foul,
00:02:09.540 but just kind of give us your commentary.
00:02:10.980 It wasn't that big of a foul.
00:02:11.200 You see the score.
00:02:12.080 So, we were winning the game, you know, and it wasn't that big of a foul,
00:02:17.620 but, you know, I know what happened.
00:02:20.620 Like, so, one, they were down.
00:02:23.260 I've never given up free layups.
00:02:25.740 I'm not, and just because it was Ben, I'm not going to give up a free layup.
00:02:28.120 And I saw Chauncey was on a podcast and said, you know, Ron fouled Ben.
00:02:33.500 He must not have known what he was doing.
00:02:35.440 Like, as if I didn't know, I was fouling like a Shaq,
00:02:39.140 like as if I was scared of a gorilla.
00:02:41.160 I'm like, you know, yeah, I knew what I was doing.
00:02:44.580 I was fouling Ben Wallace.
00:02:45.680 Of course I knew what I was doing.
00:02:46.820 And then, but as I fouled Ben, you know, he reacted.
00:02:54.600 Are you guys at that, in that season, are you friends?
00:02:57.240 You guys talking?
00:02:58.140 I've never, no, we're definitely not friends.
00:02:59.780 You've never been friends?
00:03:00.780 No.
00:03:01.220 Till today?
00:03:02.380 I think we would see each other and say hello.
00:03:05.480 Like, I don't have the problems with Ben.
00:03:07.120 But it's not like you guys are like Oakley and Jordan were friends.
00:03:10.400 No, never.
00:03:10.840 It's not one of those things at all.
00:03:12.020 Never, never, never.
00:03:12.560 But was there animosity?
00:03:13.720 Is there anything that maybe he got an award that you didn't get or you got an award?
00:03:16.920 Is there anything there?
00:03:18.000 I think the defensive player of the year is because when he got his in 2002.
00:03:22.640 In 2002, I was an immersion defender and I wanted that award.
00:03:26.160 He won it.
00:03:27.460 Then he got it again in 2003.
00:03:30.160 In 2003, I think I made first team all defense and I was locking a lot of people up
00:03:34.700 and I'm like, man, I should have got that award.
00:03:36.360 In 2004, I actually get the award.
00:03:38.860 So now he has two, I have one.
00:03:42.200 Then you got the next year, the brawl year.
00:03:44.980 Now, keep in mind, in 2003 for me, I got the most text and the most flagrant, I think,
00:03:50.960 in the league.
00:03:51.960 2003.
00:03:52.640 2003.
00:03:53.600 And I think, like, the media was like, you know, Meta's too wild.
00:03:56.600 We're not, don't just give him that award.
00:03:58.580 I think they just gave it to Ben.
00:04:00.000 Not like he earned it, but I think it edged.
00:04:04.180 2004, I had my head on a little bit more straight.
00:04:07.860 03, 04.
00:04:08.740 The next year, I could suspend it.
00:04:09.840 So the next year, I thought I was going to win it.
00:04:13.040 Because not only, you know, am I still the best defender, I believe, but my average is up, you know.
00:04:18.660 It went up to 24 before I got suspended.
00:04:21.640 So now, you know, so now, and then keep in mind, the year I got defensive player of the year,
00:04:25.580 I finished number six in MVP voting.
00:04:27.740 No shit.
00:04:28.520 A lot of stuff they keep away when it comes to me.
00:04:31.540 You were number six MVP voting?
00:04:32.920 I finished number six.
00:04:34.220 Wow.
00:04:35.020 That's averaging 18 points.
00:04:37.000 So check this out.
00:04:37.980 So that's averaging 18.
00:04:38.820 I make 13 All-NBA at 23 years old.
00:04:41.240 So check this out.
00:04:42.820 If I got that, and, you know, oh, that's the year I got defensive player of the year.
00:04:46.920 Okay.
00:04:47.760 You see?
00:04:48.600 So if I got that, so now I'm at, now the next line under is 24.
00:04:52.340 That's MVP.
00:04:53.160 That's six points more, and we're the best team in the league.
00:04:55.840 We had the best record the year I got defensive player of the year.
00:04:58.200 So I think that was my, I talk about that window.
00:05:01.060 That's that window.
00:05:02.500 That's that window.
00:05:03.320 Like Shea Alexander, you know, MVP.
00:05:07.420 We don't know when the next time he's going to get it.
00:05:08.860 So I think that was my year.
00:05:10.140 That was my window.
00:05:11.240 To get MVP.
00:05:12.540 So, and so, so you guys are.
00:05:14.420 And defensive player of the year.
00:05:15.460 And is, is the NBA hyping it up that you guys are, you know, rivals and all that other stuff?
00:05:20.900 Is that, are they doing that or not really?
00:05:22.820 Is it just something that you, you and Pistons, was there.
00:05:25.820 Oh, we, we was rivals, you know, for sure.
00:05:28.060 You are rivals at that time.
00:05:29.360 We, we wasn't rivals from the perspective of like, you know, it was generated by media.
00:05:33.780 It's because we created that.
00:05:36.540 The Pistons and Pacers, we created that.
00:05:38.200 Now they came out on top because they won, but we competed really hard.
00:05:42.700 And internally, we, we even say, I speak to Rip Hamilton because me and Rip probably, I speak more to Rip than any of them.
00:05:48.400 So, and I'm cool with Rasheed and, and also, and Chauncey and, and Tayshaun.
00:05:52.580 I know Tayshaun for so long.
00:05:53.820 And, you know, I like these guys.
00:05:55.460 But when we played against each other, you know, it was a difference.
00:05:59.180 So he comes in.
00:06:00.680 It's not a hard foul.
00:06:01.700 It's a foul.
00:06:02.340 Right, right.
00:06:02.800 It's not a hard foul.
00:06:03.280 It's not a hard foul, but not a hard foul.
00:06:04.180 And then he reacts.
00:06:05.980 He reacts.
00:06:06.960 And so immediately when I fouled him and he turned to me, I was trying to say, sorry, not, maybe not sorry, but, you know, maybe my bad.
00:06:15.020 Because if you, if you look at my reaction and I would, that's what I was doing.
00:06:19.620 I remember that, you know, Rob, can you play it so, so he can get commentary from, because, you know, and by the way, I don't know if we can play it on the, on the podcast or not.
00:06:28.940 Maybe we can, maybe we can.
00:06:29.780 But if we can play just to get commentary, I want to see this from his perspective, because God knows how many times I've seen this thing here.
00:06:36.560 I know.
00:06:37.040 Too many times.
00:06:38.720 Is that it?
00:06:39.900 That's definitely part of it.
00:06:41.300 Yeah, that's definitely part of it.
00:06:42.460 You click on it.
00:06:42.960 It's probably going to play on that one, Rob.
00:06:44.420 They're definitely going to play it.
00:06:45.800 Okay, so here we go.
00:06:46.960 Back up a little bit.
00:06:48.100 Yeah, show the foul.
00:06:49.640 No, no, no.
00:06:50.240 You have to show the foul, because we have to see the foul, Rob.
00:06:52.900 Yeah, that picks up at the push.
00:06:55.720 That's still.
00:06:57.420 Yeah, go to another clip.
00:06:58.040 Man, we got to go to the one above, right there.
00:07:01.440 Check that one out.
00:07:02.160 See?
00:07:02.760 That's it.
00:07:03.140 Okay, that's it.
00:07:03.660 So go back a little bit.
00:07:05.140 This is just going to show the foul.
00:07:06.780 Watch this.
00:07:07.280 So you're going in.
00:07:08.820 So hold it right there.
00:07:10.160 Okay.
00:07:11.420 Now, that's not a, that's definitely not a soft foul.
00:07:14.000 Let me, let me be.
00:07:14.500 It's not, but it's not a flagrant two or flagrant one foul.
00:07:16.880 Did they call a flagrant one on that or no?
00:07:18.280 That was a, that was, you know, it could have been a flagrant, but, or it could, that's
00:07:23.580 a flagrant.
00:07:24.020 Okay.
00:07:24.120 That's a flagrant.
00:07:24.780 That was, now I can see why I've been, you know what, honestly.
00:07:28.640 It's like, when you slow it down a little bit, you're calling a flagrant?
00:07:32.040 Well, I didn't, I didn't, I never saw it at this angle.
00:07:35.720 And this is, keep in mind, over the last 20 plus years, I said it was a soft foul.
00:07:39.460 Now you're calling a flagrant?
00:07:40.760 Well, I'm calling that a, that's a, that's a flagrant.
00:07:43.160 Because you didn't make a play for the ball.
00:07:44.740 Well, I, I, I wanted to make a play just to grab him, but it was a weird angle.
00:07:48.460 I don't know.
00:07:49.080 Look at my eyes.
00:07:49.880 It's a, it's a left hand.
00:07:51.040 No, that's a, that's a, that's a flagrant.
00:07:52.540 That's actually a flagrant.
00:07:53.500 The right hand goes for the ball at least a little bit.
00:07:55.380 The left hand is all under the flagrant.
00:07:56.520 I've never even seen it like that.
00:07:57.420 By the way, I've never seen this angle myself.
00:07:59.400 I've never seen this angle.
00:08:00.100 Great find, Rob.
00:08:00.560 So can you, Rob, can you find the other angle?
00:08:02.560 So you see, he, he hit you in the neck.
00:08:04.900 Well.
00:08:05.300 Pause it right there, Rob.
00:08:06.680 Yeah.
00:08:07.820 So go for it.
00:08:08.420 You were saying, you were saying something.
00:08:10.360 Well, before that, I see this angle.
00:08:12.340 It's a, it's a hard foul.
00:08:13.960 Maybe it's not a flagrant.
00:08:15.380 It's definitely like a warning, right?
00:08:16.700 It's a warning.
00:08:17.660 But now you see, now look at my hand.
00:08:19.640 Let me see if you keep going.
00:08:20.640 I cast it.
00:08:21.660 No, no, no.
00:08:22.040 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:08:23.180 I don't know if you're going to see it, but well.
00:08:26.300 You can go to the other, the other clip.
00:08:28.200 Yeah, maybe go to the other clip.
00:08:28.660 Now the other clip shows the.
00:08:30.060 Yeah.
00:08:31.760 So after I fouled them, right there, right there.
00:08:33.980 Yeah, I saw the right hand.
00:08:34.540 I was trying to be like, sorry, or I don't know.
00:08:38.420 Um, yeah, like, yeah, like maybe like, hey, yeah, we good.
00:08:42.800 And then he was like, I'm, he's tough and I'm tough.
00:08:46.300 Yeah.
00:08:46.760 Ben Wallace ain't no joke, you know?
00:08:48.820 And, and I, but you see me, I'm not too worried, you know, cause like.
00:08:53.720 Was Ben known as a guy that would fight and brawl or no?
00:08:56.460 No, Ben's just a good player.
00:08:57.840 Ben's a very focused player.
00:08:59.460 Look at me.
00:08:59.740 I'm, I'm chilling.
00:09:00.380 So I'm not worried about, I'm not worried.
00:09:02.460 I'm laying on the scores.
00:09:03.460 Yeah.
00:09:04.600 You know, so.
00:09:05.500 You were like lying, literally like lounging.
00:09:07.240 I think I want to say.
00:09:08.100 I'm really chilling.
00:09:08.720 I'm not worried.
00:09:09.460 Cause, cause you know, I didn't want to turn up.
00:09:12.580 Look, I'm right there.
00:09:13.280 I'm not too worried.
00:09:14.100 Now, by the way, you can pause it here at this point.
00:09:16.240 Is it fair to say Jermaine is a gamer?
00:09:18.900 No, Jermaine's a, yeah.
00:09:20.280 He's a gamer.
00:09:21.040 Like, no, no, no.
00:09:21.660 Now I'm not saying basketball.
00:09:23.480 I'm talking about like, if things go down, Jermaine is a gamer.
00:09:26.860 Yeah.
00:09:27.360 Jermaine, all the whole team.
00:09:28.880 The whole team is, the whole team is full of dogs.
00:09:31.260 The whole team filled with dogs.
00:09:33.860 Who was the toughest?
00:09:34.680 The whole, David Harrison and, you know.
00:09:38.000 He was a big dude.
00:09:38.980 Big, okay.
00:09:39.800 David Harrison, a dog.
00:09:41.980 Jamal Tinsley.
00:09:43.060 Your point guard, Jamal Tinsley.
00:09:44.380 Yeah, Tinsley.
00:09:44.840 Really?
00:09:44.860 New York City.
00:09:45.720 He was a street boy before he was a ball.
00:09:47.680 Iowa State, I want to say.
00:09:49.000 Iowa State.
00:09:49.900 He was a gangster.
00:09:50.740 Right.
00:09:50.960 He was a street before ball.
00:09:52.580 You know.
00:09:54.040 Steven Jackson.
00:09:54.820 Freddie Jones.
00:09:55.160 Doug.
00:09:55.440 Freddie Jones, dog.
00:09:56.880 There's nothing but dogs on that team.
00:09:58.780 No.
00:09:59.320 And was that intentional?
00:10:00.080 Jameson Brewer, dog.
00:10:00.920 Yeah.
00:10:01.160 Who put the team?
00:10:01.700 Jeff Foster, dog.
00:10:02.240 I think you had Kenny Anderson, the point guard, no?
00:10:04.300 Kenny Anderson was on that team.
00:10:05.300 Old school.
00:10:05.960 Who put that team together?
00:10:06.940 Donnie Walsh.
00:10:08.340 Who put these together?
00:10:09.520 Donnie Walsh.
00:10:10.980 Yeah, New York City.
00:10:11.480 So he intentionally was looking for dogs?
00:10:13.640 He was looking for dogs.
00:10:14.560 He got them, too.
00:10:16.960 And so keep playing it, Rob.
00:10:18.840 Keep playing it.
00:10:19.380 So there you are, lounging.
00:10:21.340 So as I'm lounging, like, the referees had no control, right?
00:10:23.860 So the referees, you know, they want to fight.
00:10:26.560 It's about to come.
00:10:27.640 Watch closely.
00:10:28.440 And the whole, I mean, you know, so he's throwing stuff at me now.
00:10:33.260 That's why I got up right there.
00:10:34.660 But up until this point, this is nothing out of the ordinary.
00:10:38.320 It's a little scuffle.
00:10:38.960 No, no.
00:10:39.620 Until something gets thrown.
00:10:40.880 No, what's out of the ordinary is that they didn't eject.
00:10:43.060 They got to make an ejection.
00:10:44.180 Like, there was no control.
00:10:46.280 The refs had no control.
00:10:47.700 All right.
00:10:48.200 Typically, you would be like, eject it.
00:10:50.700 Foul.
00:10:51.680 Eject it.
00:10:52.160 Do it again.
00:10:52.700 Warning.
00:10:53.300 Warning.
00:10:53.900 Warning.
00:10:54.640 It was like, they was like, oh, my goodness.
00:10:55.860 This is a lot of people's gone, like, had no control over this.
00:10:58.740 Make some decisions.
00:10:59.400 I didn't do it quickly.
00:11:00.240 So if Ben would have been ejected, foul.
00:11:04.980 Yeah.
00:11:05.180 Oh, you're running after him now?
00:11:07.500 Stop.
00:11:08.180 Yeah.
00:11:08.500 Oh, I can't hold you.
00:11:10.520 Eject it.
00:11:11.020 Out of here.
00:11:12.300 That's how that goes.
00:11:14.040 So now that you're watching this, should they have ejected both of you?
00:11:17.840 I don't.
00:11:18.280 I mean, maybe if, because they was ejected.
00:11:20.780 I was always getting ejected for looking at people the wrong way.
00:11:22.900 I got ejected for looking at people the wrong way.
00:11:25.380 But in this situation, I mean, I think you call the foul.
00:11:28.680 Yeah.
00:11:29.180 You call the tech on Ben for pushing or the warning.
00:11:32.380 And as he's running, you go get him and say, stop.
00:11:36.620 As he's still going, at some point, there has to be a tech.
00:11:41.240 There was never a tech in this situation.
00:11:44.740 But up until this point, they haven't called a tech or foul.
00:11:47.620 Not one tech.
00:11:48.640 Only the foul that they called.
00:11:50.380 Only the foul.
00:11:51.060 And that wasn't a flagrant back then.
00:11:53.240 That was, I mean.
00:11:54.320 No.
00:11:54.720 Did the refs call it a flagrant back then?
00:11:56.660 They just called it a foul.
00:11:57.760 But it was a little.
00:11:59.220 I mean, you got to think about it.
00:12:00.100 They were down.
00:12:01.280 They had a former champs.
00:12:01.980 They were down.
00:12:02.780 And then Ben had to go to the free throw line.
00:12:04.800 Probably was going to miss one of one.
00:12:06.720 Right?
00:12:07.580 You know what I mean?
00:12:08.380 So he probably was going to.
00:12:09.580 This is the beginning of the next season after they won the championship.
00:12:12.600 This is the beginning after.
00:12:13.360 We were better.
00:12:13.860 This is in November.
00:12:14.620 The season starts in October.
00:12:15.880 This is 10 games in type of season.
00:12:17.740 10 games in.
00:12:18.440 Gotcha.
00:12:18.660 So now watch.
00:12:19.740 Keep playing it, Rob.
00:12:20.480 Now it's about to happen.
00:12:21.480 They said it wasn't a big game.
00:12:22.840 But for us, it was a big game.
00:12:24.880 And you did this in their house.
00:12:28.380 Yeah.
00:12:28.580 For us, it was.
00:12:29.060 So you're still lying on the bench.
00:12:30.660 Reggie Miller's like, everything's good.
00:12:32.540 Ben Wallace doing his thing.
00:12:34.220 And I'm just trying to get this shit over with already.
00:12:36.720 Yeah.
00:12:36.920 You know?
00:12:37.080 And then suddenly, someone throws.
00:12:44.920 There's Mike Brown yelling.
00:12:46.260 I don't know how to.
00:12:47.720 I don't even know.
00:12:48.380 What a freaking time.
00:12:50.840 This is the other.
00:12:51.760 No.
00:12:52.160 This is.
00:12:52.580 I wish Steve would have guarded him, actually.
00:12:56.100 You're going to blame it on Steven Jackson.
00:12:57.940 Come on, Steve.
00:12:59.180 You're throwing Steven Jackson under the bus.
00:13:01.000 No.
00:13:01.760 He's out there with all the smoke.
00:13:03.060 You're throwing on him.
00:13:03.840 So they haven't dropped the cup.
00:13:05.740 Nothing's been dropped yet.
00:13:08.060 Nothing's been dropped yet.
00:13:09.740 It should happen any second now.
00:13:11.120 Lindsey Hunter's trying to calm things down.
00:13:12.900 I actually was just trying to keep it under.
00:13:14.620 Lindsey was a good three-point shooter, man.
00:13:15.140 Lindsey was fun.
00:13:15.920 Lindsey was incredible.
00:13:16.800 Yeah.
00:13:16.940 He was fun to watch.
00:13:17.880 Oh, I wish they didn't have a cup.
00:13:19.440 Oh, there it was.
00:13:20.340 It was a purple cup.
00:13:21.580 Ben runs back.
00:13:22.780 Wait for it.
00:13:24.440 Okay.
00:13:24.640 I see the cup land on him.
00:13:26.500 Now?
00:13:28.420 Now here, the craziest fight in NBA history ensues.
00:13:32.080 All right.
00:13:32.320 Here's the unfortunate situation.
00:13:35.160 That's one way to put it.
00:13:37.780 Here is the unfortunate situation.
00:13:41.360 By the way, who's telling you don't do it?
00:13:43.300 Is anybody telling you don't do it?
00:13:44.840 Don't do what?
00:13:45.840 Stop.
00:13:46.280 Like, come back out.
00:13:47.160 Is anybody trying to stop you?
00:13:48.620 Man, it was.
00:13:49.100 I didn't see Steven Jackson stopping you.
00:13:50.780 No, no.
00:13:50.980 It was mass hysteria.
00:13:51.720 Yeah.
00:13:51.900 I don't think the referee blowing a whistle at this point is stopping you.
00:13:54.240 No, no.
00:13:54.480 But you got to realize, somebody's got to be like, look, bro, we're going to get suspended.
00:13:57.720 No, no, no, no, no.
00:13:58.520 He knows that when he wins fans.
00:13:59.880 Not in there.
00:14:00.680 Not at that point.
00:14:01.400 Because what happened was, so when the guy hit me, and by the way, the guy made a $50
00:14:06.980 bet that he could hit me.
00:14:08.220 So that's what, it's on my documentary.
00:14:09.920 It's on the documentary.
00:14:10.760 Yeah.
00:14:11.300 So he betted the gentleman.
00:14:14.240 He was here.
00:14:15.480 Another gentleman was here.
00:14:17.460 This guy betted this guy that he couldn't, you know, this guy betted John Green that he
00:14:23.320 couldn't hit me for $50.
00:14:24.640 So then John threw the cup and hit me, who's kind of a friend now, actually.
00:14:31.240 He threw the cup and hit me.
00:14:32.900 And then the other gentleman raised his hand, like, oh, you did it.
00:14:36.960 And then when I got hit, that's the first thing that I saw.
00:14:39.860 You thought it was him.
00:14:40.880 Oh, you did it.
00:14:41.340 Yeah.
00:14:41.540 But, and then people said you hit the wrong guy, but it wasn't the wrong guy.
00:14:46.040 Wasn't there someone on the floor that you came up and you, like, squared up?
00:14:49.220 But let him commentate this.
00:14:50.460 Keep going.
00:14:50.960 So I'm trying to see who threw it at you.
00:14:54.140 Yeah.
00:14:54.820 They got it.
00:14:55.580 So they hit the frame.
00:14:56.800 It was like, when we was in court, they showed frame by frame.
00:14:59.640 Can you go back, Rob?
00:15:00.680 I want to know who, you know, so when you, when he runs up, no, no, a little bit back
00:15:05.660 when he first runs up.
00:15:07.060 Okay.
00:15:07.500 Right there.
00:15:08.100 Okay.
00:15:08.280 Let it go.
00:15:08.760 Let it go from here.
00:15:09.980 So, okay.
00:15:10.840 Pause right there.
00:15:11.280 Who is it?
00:15:11.880 Who threw the cup?
00:15:12.600 So John in the white hat, my friend John.
00:15:15.080 Get out of here.
00:15:15.920 Okay.
00:15:16.480 He threw it.
00:15:17.500 And he bet, the guy bet, the guy I'm attacking right now.
00:15:23.140 And so you never hit John?
00:15:24.900 I didn't hit any of him.
00:15:25.820 I shook the Ryan.
00:15:27.720 I think his name was Ryan.
00:15:28.480 So you never punch anyone in the face?
00:15:30.560 No, I didn't punch him.
00:15:31.560 The other guy that came up to you?
00:15:32.740 The guy that came up to me.
00:15:33.640 Yeah.
00:15:33.800 He tried to attack me on the court.
00:15:34.980 I didn't punch none of these guys.
00:15:36.180 These guys, I just shook them.
00:15:37.660 I just held them like, don't you ever throw no cup at me.
00:15:40.340 Play it right from here?
00:15:41.360 Right.
00:15:41.640 And then John.
00:15:42.460 Okay.
00:15:42.740 You don't punch.
00:15:43.320 Well, you kind of slap him a little bit.
00:15:44.560 No, I'm like, don't you ever throw it?
00:15:45.640 Yeah.
00:15:46.140 And that's John holding you back.
00:15:47.500 Yeah, John.
00:15:47.960 And then someone threw another.
00:15:49.300 And then somebody threw another.
00:15:50.460 No, that's Jackson.
00:15:51.100 This is the greatest fight in NBA history.
00:15:52.860 I mean.
00:15:53.220 Right.
00:15:53.520 And then John punches me in my face from behind right there.
00:15:57.920 Now he's punching me in my face.
00:15:58.960 Are you joking?
00:15:59.720 John punched you in the face.
00:16:00.660 He punched me in my face.
00:16:01.240 Go back a little bit.
00:16:02.060 I've never seen this.
00:16:03.020 John punching you in the face.
00:16:04.080 Yeah, he's punching me in my face.
00:16:05.600 Wow.
00:16:05.960 Right there, right now.
00:16:06.760 Look.
00:16:07.440 Look at that.
00:16:07.720 You see that thing?
00:16:08.360 I saw that.
00:16:08.960 I saw that.
00:16:09.380 That's me getting punched in the face.
00:16:11.660 Wow.
00:16:12.180 So John, what did John do?
00:16:13.920 Was John a tough guy or just a fan?
00:16:15.540 Like, so John, so when I was so depressed after this, so years has passed.
00:16:21.160 Just pause it for a second.
00:16:22.380 Then you can go.
00:16:23.140 So what happened was in 2007, I was trying to become like undepressed.
00:16:28.280 So I started to reach out to everybody in that area, in the situation.
00:16:32.560 So I reached out to John.
00:16:34.300 We actually had a conversation, became like friends.
00:16:38.720 You know, so but John's situation, he was AAA.
00:16:43.080 He was already in AAA at this point.
00:16:45.260 Got it.
00:16:45.780 He wasn't even supposed to be drinking.
00:16:48.480 I learned a lot about John because we were friends.
00:16:50.060 And he was also going through a little bit of issues with his family also.
00:16:55.340 So it was also, it's a back story to him that I'm also sympathetic, even though he lost
00:16:59.360 me tens and tens of millions of dollars.
00:17:04.020 I lost so much money.
00:17:05.580 So much opportunity cost.
00:17:06.600 But that don't really affect me as much as his story.
00:17:10.880 You know, I'm more like, he was going through stuff, too.
00:17:14.120 And I'm on the board of UCLA Psychiatric, where I have a soft spot for people that's going
00:17:17.980 through stuff.
00:17:18.720 For you.
00:17:19.300 Which is unfortunate, but it's just how I made up.
00:17:22.040 Wow.
00:17:22.400 So, Rob, keep playing it.
00:17:23.600 Keep playing it.
00:17:24.480 So, so, so.
00:17:26.260 But yeah, in this moment.
00:17:28.360 Lower the audio a little bit, Rob, because we can hear it.
00:17:30.680 So, okay.
00:17:31.000 At this point, it's going back and forth.
00:17:33.040 At this point, it's back and forth.
00:17:34.360 So, by the way, did Ben and you, did Ben at all hit you?
00:17:37.060 Did any of the Pistons at all hit you during this?
00:17:39.200 Well, Ben was just throwing his wristbands when I was on the table.
00:17:43.540 It's tough to hurt you with wristbands.
00:17:44.940 Well, yeah.
00:17:45.560 It should have been a tech.
00:17:47.640 Okay.
00:17:48.000 So, you're now here.
00:17:48.260 That's Wes.
00:17:50.320 Wes.
00:17:50.900 Wes got me.
00:17:51.600 I almost got pepper sprayed.
00:17:53.060 I didn't even know it.
00:17:53.960 So, the cop was coming up to pepper spray me, and the guy that's holding me, Worldwide
00:17:58.540 Wes.
00:17:59.280 Oh, Worldwide Wes.
00:18:00.280 Worldwide Wes.
00:18:00.860 That's Worldwide Wes.
00:18:02.240 If it wasn't for him, I would have got pepper sprayed and arrested on the floor.
00:18:04.960 What was he doing?
00:18:05.520 Literally brown.
00:18:05.820 Him right there.
00:18:06.380 Right there.
00:18:07.000 Pause it.
00:18:07.260 Pause it.
00:18:07.560 Yeah.
00:18:08.780 Him.
00:18:09.640 Wes got me.
00:18:10.580 If you see the tape, you'll see the cop had the pepper spray.
00:18:13.900 Because the guy, when I got back down to the floor, then the other fans tried to punch
00:18:19.360 me.
00:18:19.700 Two fans jumped me.
00:18:21.640 Two more fans, they jumped me.
00:18:23.320 They literally jumped me.
00:18:25.380 Oh, Rob, if you go back in the other clip, the other clip will show the two fans trying
00:18:29.580 to jump him.
00:18:30.780 The one that was, yeah, that's the one right there.
00:18:32.460 Watch this.
00:18:32.980 So, just keep it playing.
00:18:33.900 Let it go.
00:18:35.180 Okay.
00:18:35.680 So, boom.
00:18:36.500 That's that.
00:18:38.040 And then this is when it drink hits.
00:18:41.120 Man, what a disaster.
00:18:42.080 Yeah, and then it starts.
00:18:46.120 And there's John.
00:18:47.200 See, John was like, ooh.
00:18:48.400 See, John.
00:18:49.180 See, John.
00:18:49.500 And then this is it.
00:18:50.280 Yeah, this guy came and attacked me.
00:18:51.280 Yeah, who's this guy?
00:18:52.100 Yeah, he knocked him out.
00:18:52.820 How are they on the floor?
00:18:54.200 That's my point.
00:18:55.140 Boom.
00:18:55.580 And then Jermaine O'Neal comes and starts knocking me out.
00:18:57.240 Oh, yeah.
00:18:57.860 So, he slips what he punches.
00:18:58.860 You see what I'm saying?
00:19:00.340 And then, like, at what point.
00:19:00.980 Now, watch.
00:19:01.480 Is that Chuck Person?
00:19:02.340 That's Chuck.
00:19:02.820 Yeah, that's my guy.
00:19:03.460 Trying to get him out.
00:19:04.300 Chuck was a great shooter, man.
00:19:05.260 Chuck and Reggie.
00:19:05.700 Chuck was incredible.
00:19:07.180 Chuck was a shooter.
00:19:08.040 Yeah, so this game is Juan Bear, Scott Pollard.
00:19:12.000 By the way, they just did that to DeMarcus Cousins a couple days ago.
00:19:14.760 I saw that.
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