00:00:00.000Why does this topic matter to you so much? I'm curious, because to me, being a father matters to me a lot. And I love hearing other men who you have two boys. I believe you have two boys. You're married. You've got a family. You know, you're doing your thing. Why does this topic of being a great father matter to you so much?
00:00:16.860well i mean i so there was a moment kind of the aha moment for me was a kid named alex kearns
00:00:26.040in uh fall of 2020 was trading stocks on robin hood sophomore at oklahoma state
00:00:33.840you know you see this you see this kid patrick and you just see your son
00:00:37.360and he got an errant email from robin hood saying he was down sixty thousand dollars and that he
00:00:43.660needed to transfer 60,000. Of course, it ended up that was an Aaron email was a mistake. And he
00:00:47.440furiously all night sent emails to customer service saying, I don't understand what's going
00:00:52.540on because they don't have humans involved. No one got back to him in the morning and took his
00:00:56.560own life because he left a note saying he didn't want to indebt his family. And I started going
00:01:01.300down this rabbit hole of teen suicide and young men. And just the data was so incredibly stark.
00:01:07.020I thought, people aren't talking enough about this. Young men, it was just so clear. We don't
00:01:15.620have a homeless or an opiate problem in the US. We have a male opiate and a male homeless problem.
00:01:19.460Three out of four addicts are men. Three out of four homeless are men. We might have two to one
00:01:28.500female to male college graduates in the next five years. Only when you're walking down the avenue
00:01:33.520of America, one in three of the men haven't had sex in the last year. And you hear the word sex
00:01:37.160and your brain fires a bunch of different ways. But if you think of sex as a key to the most
00:01:41.500important thing in life, and that is an intimate relationship with a partner, a lot of men just
00:01:46.500aren't having access to that. So I started going down this rabbit hole. I was really interested
00:01:51.180in it. I reached out to the Kearns family. And just on a personal level, I relate to it because
00:01:55.980I could have been one of those guys. I didn't have a lot of economic or romantic opportunities
00:02:00.700when I was a young man. And also, I was raised by a single immigrant mother who lived and died
00:02:06.140as secretary. And just, you'll relate to this. As a dad, you start to see the difference between
00:02:12.500boys and girls. And also, you see boys getting mixed messages. At universities, unfortunately,
00:02:19.080we've created this zeitgeist of oppressed versus oppressor. And I think it's gotten better because
00:02:24.980we realized at universities that it was damaging what we were doing. But one of the ways we
00:02:29.840immediately identified as the shorthand for oppressor was how white and how male you were.
00:02:35.600And I think a lot of young men have started to get confused messages around mating, around their
00:02:41.720role in society. So as a dad, as someone who worries a lot about their sons, as someone who
00:02:47.780likes to think of themselves as willing to wade in dangerous waters, as being data-driven,
00:02:53.160and as someone who, quite frankly, just relates to young men who don't have a lot of opportunity
00:02:58.080at the moment. It just was something I got fascinated with. And I've been on sort of this
00:03:03.640five-year journey. And what I'll say is that the dialogue, Patrick, has gotten so much more
00:03:08.700productive. Because when I first started talking about this, if five years ago, if you brought up
00:03:13.920or in any way advocated for men, I was called Andrew Tate with an MBA. Or they're like, oh,
00:03:19.700you're one of those guys. And there was an immediate gag reflex, especially from the left,
00:03:24.260that, oh, this is another guy who's going to blame women for men's problems. And I have never done
00:03:29.260that. I think we should celebrate our mothers, our sisters, and our daughters' progress. I think
00:03:33.320it's amazing. If women hadn't gone into the factories in World War II, we wouldn't have
00:03:38.940won the war as quickly. If we hadn't protected women's rights in the workplace in the 60s,
00:03:43.72070s, and 80s, we'd be a second-rate economic power to China. We have benefited enormously
00:03:49.120from the progress of women. But it's not a zero-sum game. We can walk and chew gum at the
00:03:54.580same time and recognize that if our young men are flailing, our country and women aren't going to
00:04:01.600continue to flourish. And when I speak to young women, who wants more economically and emotionally
00:04:07.200viable young men? Women. So we all have a vested interest in our youth and our young men. It's not
00:04:14.540a zero-sum game. We can have empathy for everybody. And I think it's a common-sense
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