Valuetainment - April 20, 2026


“This Is Not Progress, It’s Surrender!” - Neuroscientist EXPOSES The Digital Dangers To Kids


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00:00:00.000 Here's a man who he's on, he is being interviewed to talk about what technology has done to our kids
00:00:08.520 and what the role of technology has been historically every single time we introduce new technology to kids.
00:00:16.680 Rob, I want you to play the one from X because it's a lot cleaner without the start.
00:00:21.660 So here's Dr. Jared Cooney Horvath, okay?
00:00:25.880 Okay, let's forget about his middle name, but Dr. Jared Horvath is giving this message.
00:00:31.760 And I want to, can you go all the way to the top, Rob, for me to read some of the quote?
00:00:35.580 Okay, he breaks down, delivered the brutal truth parents and educators need to face. 0.53
00:00:43.420 His core warning, Gen Z is the first modern generation to be, well, I'll let him say it. 0.94
00:00:47.880 Rob, play the clip. 1.00
00:00:48.900 It is so powerful.
00:00:50.560 How long is it?
00:00:51.240 Man, we can't watch the whole thing, but we'll watch the first two minutes.
00:00:54.060 Go ahead, Rob.
00:00:54.640 Thank you, guys.
00:00:55.880 My name is Dr. Jared Cooney-Horvath.
00:00:57.500 I'm a former teacher turned cognitive neuroscientist who focuses on human learning.
00:01:02.300 And I do not receive funding, nor have I ever, from big tech.
00:01:06.540 So a sad fact our generation has to face is this.
00:01:09.580 Our kids are less cognitively capable than we were at their age.
00:01:14.340 Since we've been standardizing and measuring cognitive development since the late 1800s,
00:01:17.540 every generation has outperformed their parents.
00:01:19.760 And that's exactly what we want.
00:01:20.620 We want sharper kids.
00:01:21.960 And the reason for this largely has been school.
00:01:23.620 Each generation spends more time in school.
00:01:25.020 we use school to develop our cognition congratulations you see your correlation
00:01:27.780 until gen z gen z is the first generation in modern history to underperform us on basically
00:01:33.180 every cognitive measure we have from basic attention to memory to literacy to numeracy 0.94
00:01:37.020 to executive functioning to even general iq even though they go to more school than we did so why
00:01:41.500 what happened what happened around 2010 listen that decoupled schooling and cognitive development
00:01:45.300 it can't be school schools basically look the same it can't be biology this hasn't enough time to
00:01:49.900 change the answer appears to be the tools we are using within schools to drive that learning
00:01:54.460 Across 80 countries, as Gene was just saying, if you look at the data, once countries adopt
00:01:58.280 digital technology widely in schools, performance goes down significantly, to the point where kids
00:02:02.580 who use computers about five hours per day in school for learning purposes will score over
00:02:06.500 two-thirds of a standard deviation less than kids who rarely or never touch tech at school.
00:02:10.620 And that's across 80 countries. Bring it home to the U.S. Let's go to the U.S. We have our NAEP.
00:02:14.320 That's our big data. Take any state. Here's a fun experiment you can try. Take any state NAEP data.
00:02:19.180 Compare that to when that state adopted one-to-one technology widely, and watch what happens.
00:02:23.320 the NAEP data will plateau and then start to drop now as gene said of course this is all
00:02:28.240 correlative what we really want is causative to get causation what you need is academic research
00:02:32.800 and you need mechanisms explanations for why we're seeing what we're seeing luckily we have
00:02:36.220 academic research stretching back to 1962 that shows the exact same story for 60 years when tech
00:02:41.520 enters education learning goes down in fact one of the biggest ed psychologists right now dylan
00:02:46.220 william out of the uk recently said ed tech is a revolution that's been coming for 60 years and
00:02:50.320 we're going to have to wait another 60 because it ain't doing anything. Now that's research,
00:02:55.360 but now we need mechanisms. Luckily over the last about two decades, we've been doing a lot of work
00:02:58.820 in what we call the science of learning. How do human beings learn? And we now have the clear
00:03:02.220 understanding of why tech does not work for learning. And it is all biological. It's not
00:03:06.440 that the tech isn't being used well enough. We haven't been trained enough. We need better
00:03:08.940 programs. It's we have evolved biologically to learn from other human beings, not from screens.
00:03:13.680 And screens circumvent that process. I won't go too deeply into the mechanisms. They can get boring,
00:03:17.680 but just know they're there if you want to talk about them.
00:03:19.840 So that leaves us with two options.
00:03:21.120 Option one, when you know something is wrong, do better.
00:03:23.360 So we could just say, hey, mea culpa, get some of this tech out of schools,
00:03:25.780 go back to what we know works, some analog methods, cool.
00:03:28.520 Or two, we could redefine our terms.
00:03:30.900 We could redefine what it means to be an effective learner.
00:03:33.240 I want to end with one quick story here.
00:03:35.120 Think back to your childhood, to your schooling.
00:03:36.760 I guarantee all of us at one point took a test on reading comprehension.
00:03:39.880 And the way it looked is this.
00:03:40.960 Here's a passage of about 750 words.
00:03:43.080 Here are 10 to 12 questions about that passage.
00:03:45.140 Most of them are inferential, not factual.
00:03:46.680 They're asking you to go beyond what you just read to see what you understood.
00:03:49.460 Cool.
00:03:50.360 Last year, the SATs had a reading comprehension section.
00:03:53.160 Here's what it looked like.
00:03:54.280 Here is a single sentence of 75 words.
00:03:56.540 Here is one question fact-based about that sentence.
00:03:59.660 Next.
00:04:00.140 Here is another sentence of 75 words.
00:04:01.960 Here is one question about that sentence.
00:04:03.580 Next.
00:04:04.100 Last year, they redefined reading comprehension to mean 54 short sentences with one question
00:04:08.760 about each.
00:04:09.360 That is skimming.
00:04:10.640 That's not reading.
00:04:11.660 Why would we ever do that?
00:04:12.600 Because what do kids do on computers?
00:04:14.340 They skim.
00:04:14.840 So rather than determining what do we want our children to do and gearing education towards that, we are redefining education to better suit the tool.
00:04:22.120 That's not progress.
00:04:23.560 Exactly.
00:04:24.840 Exactly.
00:04:25.860 What a powerful thing that this fellow is talking about.
00:04:28.940 Tom, your thoughts on this.
00:04:30.140 So married to a teacher, I'll tell you a very, very interesting story here. 0.77
00:04:34.800 They've done tests with live human teachers.
00:04:38.140 And what they did, they took a group of kids and they told the kids.
00:04:41.000 And Dennis Waitley, The Psychology of Winning, he talked about this in a – I saw him give a talk.
00:04:49.940 This goes way back.
00:04:51.120 I think he passed away a couple years ago.
00:04:53.380 He wrote one of the best motivational books of all time that athletes read, business owners read, business salespeople read.
00:05:00.360 It's a phenomenal book.
00:05:01.500 Yep.
00:05:01.980 And so what do you talk about?
00:05:02.960 A teacher goes into a class, an average public high school that's in a marginal area of town,
00:05:09.360 not downtown not uptown just average and what they did it was like fifth grade they said by the way
00:05:17.200 all of the students in this class according to the the tests that we've been taking are high
00:05:24.820 achieving students congratulate yourselves you're all high achieving students and so what they did
00:05:30.280 they kept reinforce reinforcing that and they reinforce it reinforce that and kim can tell you
00:05:35.440 about this. Guess what happens? The test scores there were better than the previous year's class
00:05:41.960 of student. Why? Because what did they put in the kid's head? The assumption that we're going to do
00:05:49.280 well, and it was human teaching, looking at them and directly complimenting them. Wow, Elon, that's
00:05:56.260 really, really good. But this is why you're all in here, this class with us, where we're all going
00:06:01.980 to do very well together where we're all very good at this. And so what happens is it goes right
00:06:07.520 into the, here we go, the subtle what of what? You know? Low expectations. Correctamundo. That's
00:06:15.680 exactly what it is. So human teaching and connecting with human and instilling, you know,
00:06:21.400 quality impressions and then teaching human to human works best. Now, can you read a book? Can
00:06:30.160 Can the textbook be on, you know, an e-book?
00:06:33.240 Sure it can.
00:06:34.160 And if you're going to read and read and read, it can.
00:06:36.200 But this is absolutely correct that digital leads to skimming, and skimming leads to lower comprehension.
00:06:44.520 And now even the SAT has completely taken a left turn.
00:06:48.820 If the SAT or the Stanford nine will go back to taking the large blocks and then test inferential, we would be we would have there would be a you know, there'd be a parental uprising in America.
00:07:01.820 But against who? The teachers unions in every town. And we can't have that.
00:07:08.080 Do you actually think it's better to take the technologies out, Tom?
00:07:10.640 I think if the technology is only used to, like, so you don't have to print the book, I like that.
00:07:19.900 I want human connection.
00:07:21.400 You know what happened yesterday?
00:07:22.200 I'm having a conversation with one of the younger boys in our family, okay?
00:07:28.280 I'm going to try to say this in a way that, you know, we can't figure out who it is.
00:07:32.360 Love this kid.
00:07:33.220 He's phenomenal.
00:07:35.120 Very, very good kid.
00:07:36.180 So a week ago, I bought him a book, okay?
00:07:39.380 And I gave him this book nine days ago.
00:07:42.700 And while he's with me, I ask him a question.
00:07:46.240 I say, by when will you finish this book?
00:07:50.440 Now, he's not a reader, so he doesn't read books.
00:07:53.660 And school grades is okay, but he's not like a straight-A kid that, you know, aces everything.
00:07:58.580 That's not him.
00:07:59.300 His strength is in a different place.
00:08:00.940 He's got a high EQ, okay?
00:08:02.940 Not on this side.
00:08:03.680 So he's got a very, very high EQ.
00:08:05.220 So, anyways, I said, when will you finish this book?
00:08:09.840 He says to me, by next Friday, meaning two days ago, three days ago.
00:08:15.800 I said, I'm going to ask it to you one more time because whatever you tell me,
00:08:19.640 I'm going to hold you to it.
00:08:20.860 When will you finish this book?
00:08:23.120 He said, no, I'm telling you by next Friday.
00:08:24.960 I said, okay, no problem.
00:08:25.680 I'm the wrong guy to make a commitment and not do it.
00:08:28.900 He says, no, I'm telling you.
00:08:30.040 That's what's going to happen.
00:08:30.760 I said, great.
00:08:31.800 Friday, he texts me.
00:08:33.660 I said, where are you at?
00:08:35.220 He said, I'm at page 50.
00:08:38.020 I haven't finished the book.
00:08:39.500 I said, yeah, listen, I'm not interested in this kind of stuff that you're doing with me.
00:08:44.460 If you want me to work with you, and then I asked the parents, how much leeway are you giving me to challenge your kid?
00:08:53.120 I specifically asked him, I said, I want to be aligned because I don't want you to come back and say you're pushing too hard.
00:08:57.740 And they said, we're on the same page.
00:08:59.620 We're aligned.
00:09:00.360 Fantastic.
00:09:00.980 I'm going to push them.
00:09:02.360 And if you're okay with it, I'm going to go hard.
00:09:04.160 No problem.
00:09:05.220 text me. I'm not responding back because you didn't respond back to my commitments. Great.
00:09:11.400 Calls me yesterday, sends me a report, finished the book cover to cover, and late at night,
00:09:18.260 8, 8.30, whatever time it is, he says, hey, when can we talk? All day he's texting me,
00:09:22.100 when can we talk? When can we talk? I said, when I get a time, I'll call you. So I call him.
00:09:27.680 And I said, go ahead. What did you take away from the book? He starts telling me what he took away
00:09:32.180 from the book tom i even it was as if he saw a new world because it's he's never read a business
00:09:40.100 not a business book he doesn't read books like this and by the way it's a phenomenal book that
00:09:44.500 every parent who has a kid playing sports you have to have your kids read this book
00:09:49.800 we probably sold 5 000 copies of books today and we're not even none of these books are ours we're
00:09:55.660 Yeah, terrible at selling.
00:09:58.040 But so he's like, and he said this.
00:10:03.000 And then he was telling the story about this girl, and he said this.
00:10:06.320 And then this one girl that was playing tennis, and he said this.
00:10:08.720 You could see the shine versus, you know, when the phone is, he's always like this.
00:10:13.980 Because it's always, it drives me insane.
00:10:16.260 You know, our kids, my oldest son is 14 years old.
00:10:19.140 He still has no social media.
00:10:20.480 He's the only kid that has no social media, zero.
00:10:25.060 He has nothing.
00:10:25.960 His phone, it's only because he goes running
00:10:27.540 and mom's trying to get a hold of him.
00:10:29.220 Dylan's like, Dad, when can I get a phone?
00:10:30.860 All my friends.
00:10:31.640 Senna's nine years old.
00:10:33.200 Her friends at eight years old had cell phone and social media.
00:10:36.000 The kids have nothing.
00:10:36.800 It's so hard to keep it apart for this long.
00:10:39.080 By the way, can we recommend the book, Rob?
00:10:40.580 Can you pull up the book?
00:10:42.060 It's called The Game of Tennis.
00:10:44.020 I think it's a green book, Rob, if you can pull this up.
00:10:46.320 It's got nothing to do with tennis.
00:10:47.500 Inner game of tennis.
00:10:48.380 It's the inner game of tennis of mentally developing the mindset
00:10:51.900 that a ton of professional quarterbacks, athletes, have read this book.
00:10:56.780 Coaches have been recommended this book.
00:10:58.380 It's an incredible book to read, The Inner Game of Tennis, by Timothy Galway.
00:11:03.340 Look at the number of reviews, by the way.
00:11:04.860 9,872 reviews written in 1997, and the foreword is Pete Carroll.
00:11:09.700 You kind of see this.
00:11:10.760 The coach.
00:11:11.460 Yeah, Pete Carroll.
00:11:12.460 So what are your thoughts about what he said in the video?
00:11:15.140 I think that human nature strives for efficiency.
00:11:18.280 Sometimes that's extremely good.
00:11:19.460 Sometimes it leads to, I think, what we're seeing now, which is the, in many ways, not to sound like weird, but like the death of the human spirit.
00:11:26.940 Because what you were just talking about, you know, looking, reading a book where your mind has to work to create the imagery, your mind has to understand.
00:11:35.200 We're going more and more and more efficient.
00:11:36.900 I don't even think we're touching the start of what this will lead to.
00:11:39.820 Because with AI, the tools become exponentially more efficient.
00:11:43.500 It's not like a regular linear curve.
00:11:45.680 this will exponentially increase to the point where all information every task everything is
00:11:51.280 done for humans it's like the movie wally back in the day humans are not intent we're intended to
00:11:56.480 struggle so we're reaching a point where we're gonna have to create our own struggle i think
00:12:00.860 it's pandora's box it's out of the the box at this point we're not going to go back to before this
00:12:05.240 the question is how do we deal with it now that it's here how do we get people to understand that
00:12:09.680 this isn't necessarily a good thing and uh yeah i'm very very worried about what this looks like
00:12:16.380 in the future i've been looking at ai for a very long time and i get i get to see it in real time
00:12:20.460 because when we're out or we're at a dinner and there's four kids none of them are on a phone
00:12:25.940 they don't have a phone when i tell you the conversations at the time you're there all the
00:12:30.000 time pat it's a bro we're sitting all around each other and i have a 14 year old that will not stop
00:12:36.420 talking to me about God, about
00:12:38.320 Jesus, about politics, about, did you see this?
00:12:40.420 Did you see that? As he's still talking,
00:12:42.500 Dylan is talking to me about, Uncle Vinny,
00:12:44.480 sports, what about this? What about that?
00:12:46.580 Santa's talking, it's, bro, you're
00:12:48.380 immersed in conversation, nobody,
00:12:50.440 and then me and Humberto, yesterday were at
00:12:52.400 Cheesecake Factory, very, very big
00:12:54.320 menu, I highly recommend you do research
00:12:56.460 before you go, there's, the
00:12:58.080 Especially if you're with
00:13:00.400 Humberto. The menu, no
00:13:02.360 joke, is like this, Humberto, like,
00:13:04.280 we were arguing over it. That's a really good
00:13:06.200 book in itself that's a book in itself shout out the cheesecake factory author but uh we're sitting
00:13:11.040 there we're sitting there and huberto can vouch back i'm sitting it's a parent uh husband wife
00:13:16.620 one more friend the kids for one hour i not even joking we're like this and the kid has big
00:13:22.960 goggles because he's like this he can't see and not one peep from any of the kids until they left
00:13:29.500 and then as they're walking away the kid didn't even put it down and the parent had to grab it
00:13:34.520 I'm telling you right now, it's an uncomfortable conversation because I see it.
00:13:39.440 The kids are like, well, these people have it.
00:13:41.560 These people have it.
00:13:42.220 They don't understand the great thing that you're giving them because at some point, it's inevitable, bro.
00:13:47.740 They're going to be 16.
00:13:48.460 They're going to be 18.
00:13:49.060 They're going to have it.
00:13:49.780 But this development stage, you have to have it because, bro, you could go on a road trip with Tico.
00:13:55.460 He shuts the music off.
00:13:56.260 He goes, I want to just talk to you, Uncle Vinny.
00:13:57.860 I'm like, we can put whatever you want.
00:13:59.600 He's like, no, I want to talk.
00:14:01.320 We talked for an hour in the car.
00:14:02.900 He just wants to have a conversation.
00:14:04.240 I think that's what you have to do is that uncomfortable moment
00:14:06.840 because guess what?
00:14:07.780 Everybody else has one.
00:14:09.400 You're not going to have one.
00:14:10.640 And I think that's a hard conversation to have.
00:14:12.760 Look, I think this is probably the most important conversation
00:14:15.660 in America today.
00:14:17.700 What our kids are learning and reading and using tech
00:14:20.960 and when they should be able to use tech.
00:14:23.380 So Tico's 14 hasn't had a cell phone yet.
00:14:26.320 My nephew's 13 has no cell phone.
00:14:27.940 He wanted to get one for his bar mitzvah.
00:14:29.760 We said, nah, buddy, wait until you're 16.
00:14:32.040 That's a whole conversation.
00:14:33.520 Why?
00:14:34.120 That story you just told about whoever that was, how old, he doesn't read books,
00:14:39.520 but he didn't have the highest IQ, had a high EQ, that was me.
00:14:43.900 I remember in high school, look, I did not want to read books.
00:14:47.360 I would get good grades just because I knew stuff I would study,
00:14:50.260 but if you gave me a 200-page book, I'd be like,
00:14:52.920 can we get some Cliff Notes over here?
00:14:54.720 Remember when Cliff Notes were a thing?
00:14:56.080 Yeah.
00:14:56.420 Think about this now.
00:14:57.520 Cliff Notes, you have to go buy it.
00:14:58.960 It was still 50 pages.
00:15:00.720 You can do a chat GPT.
00:15:02.300 Give me the book summary.
00:15:03.500 of any book you want bingo so you know someone said to me that it goes if you put the work in
00:15:09.840 it'll work out i said oh i like that the problem is easy you don't have to put any work in
00:15:14.620 life is so easy you can get whatever you want snap of a finger press of a button and then what
00:15:19.740 happens they get anxious they get depressed because we're making up problems in america today
00:15:24.720 what's the book anxious generation amazing jonathan height they're they're making up
00:15:31.100 things to get depressed about and anxious about because that because of this yeah this is the
00:15:36.900 this is the greatest tool or greatest weapon depending on how you look at parents parents
00:15:41.680 it's on you though parents yes totally on you it's not easy i get it people will connect and
00:15:46.980 trust me as a parent uh uh i i screw up all the flipping time parenting you make mistakes
00:15:55.520 all the flipping time you ain't gonna do it right like you know all of us are like
00:15:59.220 you ever go out to a dinner and a husband and wife are there and it's like oh my god we just
00:16:05.120 celebrate our anniversary and then so what did your husband do and the wife starts explaining
00:16:09.340 what the husband did and you're like can you already just shut up everything was so perfect
00:16:15.660 and your wife is sitting there it's like why can't you do something like that for me you know it's
00:16:20.800 like all this stuff I'm like oh my god and then you're like okay all right I want to go to dinner
00:16:24.960 with husbands like honestly i forgot the yeah that's my kind of anniversary you made all of
00:16:31.280 us you know it's a good makes you look good i love this guy he's going places protect that man right
00:16:36.380 but but the point is this is you're going to fail you're going to screw up you're gonna mistake make
00:16:42.860 mistakes as a parent all of us are none of us are walking on water as parenting you're gonna screw
00:16:47.000 this thing up but man there's a handful of places do not screw up with because we're about to lose
00:16:51.300 tom right now there's a handful of places do not screw up don't become the parent that says
00:16:57.900 but let him just play for a little bit it's easy let him just have a little bit saturday sunday
00:17:04.380 fine monday through friday lock it up yep and then for saturday and sunday give a certain time 1.00
00:17:11.000 that they can do if they don't like you know our uh our guy our girls have to do leg raises okay 1.00
00:17:16.160 Brooklyn will literally have to do 50 leg raises. 1.00
00:17:19.820 Steps on the table, comes down, right and left. 0.98
00:17:22.240 And Senna has to do 50.
00:17:23.440 She lights, and then Dylan has to do his training.
00:17:25.740 But create something for them to get it.
00:17:28.280 It's not easy, I understand.
00:17:29.980 Tom, I think you wanted to say something before we go to the next door.
00:17:32.240 Yeah, I'll just give a how-to.
00:17:33.300 We often talk about things we don't give a how-to.
00:17:35.320 We'll give you a how-to here.
00:17:36.740 Number one, no social media.
00:17:38.160 Number two, when the kid comes home, put the phone and a charger in the kitchen.
00:17:41.740 The phone is there for communication and safety,
00:17:43.760 because I know many parents want their kids to have that phone at school.
00:17:47.140 But the other thing is, get them a regular Kindle.
00:17:50.780 The Kindle that just have the books on it.
00:17:52.880 Now you can put all the books on the Kindle.
00:17:54.720 They can highlight it, and you're reading.
00:17:57.060 And you're not distracted by any notifications or anything.
00:18:00.200 Oh, I'll put the Kindle app on the phone.
00:18:02.120 No, it's $100.
00:18:03.920 You can get a Kindle for $109 or something right now.
00:18:08.000 Those little thin Kindles are about the size of a book
00:18:10.200 because you want the kids to read a book.
00:18:12.460 That way they're immersed without distraction.
00:18:14.760 So those are the only two how-tos I'll get.
00:18:17.120 And I'm not trying to be a proponent for Kindle,
00:18:19.060 but it's the last man standing after Nook and Sony Reader and all those things.
00:18:22.180 Tom, just put his link for his paper.
00:18:25.380 Put his Kindle link.
00:18:26.980 He gets paid $10,000.
00:18:27.920 No, because I'll tell you, Tom just made $100,000.
00:18:32.620 But they have that paperless thing on it, which is really good also.
00:18:35.880 It's not using blue light.
00:18:36.880 It's excellent.
00:18:37.440 Correct.
00:18:38.200 And Bailey, I'll give you a fast, fast story.
00:18:41.380 She reads this book, All Quiet on the Western Front.
00:18:44.080 And she's reading it, classic book.
00:18:45.980 She's reading it in paper format.
00:18:48.240 And every now and then I see little pencil notes in there.
00:18:51.320 And I'm like, she wasn't asked to highlight anything, but she made little pencil notes.
00:18:55.000 And on the very last page, because you know what happens at the end?
00:18:58.380 Paul dies.
00:18:59.020 Yeah, of course.
00:19:00.300 Spoiler alert.
00:19:01.820 Spoiler alert.
00:19:02.940 I can't.
00:19:03.160 I'm out of here.
00:19:03.880 This is 1918, World War I.
00:19:05.960 All of his friends die in the book.
00:19:07.660 He looks like he's going to make it.
00:19:09.120 And on the last page, last book, it says, today's report, all quiet on the Western's front, but Paul has been shot.
00:19:17.600 And he dies.
00:19:18.700 Underneath, in capital letters, NO!
00:19:21.940 And oh, because it's almost the end of the book, and you're thinking it's going to go there.
00:19:26.100 And we had a great conversation about the book.
00:19:28.660 And this is, there's the second point.
00:19:30.860 Talk to your kids about the book, just like Pat did.
00:19:33.140 I can't believe you ruined that book.
00:19:34.680 Next thing you're going to do, you're going to tell me that Blue died in old school.
00:19:37.280 You realize, as he was telling that story, somebody that's listening to this right now 0.99
00:19:41.100 bought the book, and then they're like, damn, you bought it? 0.93
00:19:44.220 They bought it right after they brought it up? 1.00
00:19:46.140 Damn, you didn't know. 0.99
00:19:47.640 Let me go to the next store. 1.00
00:19:48.920 It was a movie.
00:19:49.640 It's like the thing with Obama or Trump going, no!
00:19:52.760 Hey, quick shout-out to Alan Yesamete, who just bought 10 PBD Podcast gift memberships.
00:19:58.460 I don't know if I've done the last shout-out for three years.
00:20:00.740 I'm just giving a shout-out to that guy, wherever you are, whoever you are.