＂Three Times BIGGER Than Manhattan＂ - MEGA AI Data Center Sparks Tech War With Americans
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A 62 square mile data center is being built in Utah, and while it s being built, people are not happy about it. And at the same time, you have to hear what the sound is coming from it.
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62-square-mile data center is being built in Utah.
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But while this is happening, just to give you some fun facts on how big 63-square-miles is,
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And at the same time, while this is taking place, you have to hear what the sound's like.
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concern and outrage in utah where hundreds of protesters this week flooded this meeting of
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box elder county commissioners can you be quiet let our citizens hear what needs to be said please
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as they voted to move forward with a controversial data center proposal
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backed by celebrity canadian businessman kevin o'leary
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hello sharks known as mr wonderful on the hit show shark tank you should do this deal you have
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no risk just say yes o'leary firing back at the protesting criticism in this video posted on
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social media after the vote i'm pretty aware of what these concerns are they are around air
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water use heat sustainability is is at the heart of what we do in terms of all these proposals
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not just Utah. The Stratus Project is a plan to build a 40,000 acre development near Utah's
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Great Salt Lake, boosted by government tax incentives. And according to a county fact
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sheet, is eventually expected to generate and consume up to nine gigawatts of power once
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completed. A number MITA, the state entity backing the project, says is more than double
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Utah's average energy consumption. That's the concern. Data centers of the old have a bad
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reputation. They gobble up a lot of water, they use up your power, and then when they're all
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built, they don't employ many people. This is not that. Power's usage is completely self-contained.
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The project's potential environmental impact sparking much of the outrage.
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We're losing land, we're losing water, and we're losing air quality.
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Can you show the audio? This is actually a very good video. Can you show the audio
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of what it sounds like, what these things sound like.
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or which data center is this that's making this sound?
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Yeah, let's find out which data center that's from.
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Texas and Virginia are currently leading the way with data centers.
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Go a little bit lower to see what the audience is saying.
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I'm just wondering if other people are saying this is what it sounds like.
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That's exactly what I said because I don't think that's what it sounds like.
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Instead of relinquishing data to China, we should solve this self-inflicted.
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I looked it up, Pat, and it says the data center in this video is Vineland, New Jersey,
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Cumberland County, South Jersey, large Microsoft-backed AI data center facility.
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Can we find out if Grok or somebody can verify where that sound is coming from?
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And I asked, Pat, is this what they sound like?
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She said, yes, that's exactly what large AI data centers sound like,
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especially when they're running heavy cooling systems
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Massive arrays of cooling fans, air handling units, and cooling towers.
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Noise characteristics at a distance, half a mile like many violent homes.
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If this is real, I mean, what are we talking about if this is real?
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In the comment section, comment, who lives by an AI data center and how bad is it?
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You know, if you're actually right next to it right now, post a video right now with a link.
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A bunch of you guys are tweeting at me, at Patrick by David.
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Post it on X and say, this is what it sounds like right now if you're close to a data center.
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So data centers are getting a bad name, earning a bad name, but there's so much that we could be doing better about it.
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That's the one I look at because I think some of these data centers make this noise,
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But I think other data centers are quiet unless they turn on the backup power.
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And the backup power are these enormous diesel engines.
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If you've ever heard a hospital do, you hear a little siren,
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and then the hospital does a power outage test,
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and you hear them fire up, the big generators are outside.
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I want to know is what is the sound actually coming from the data center?
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And, you know, how are they creating the power for the data center?
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A data center in Atlanta, Pat, you'll love this.
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So the city literally sent out people to go look at it.
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They found out that one water connection had been installed without the city utilities knowledge,
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and the other was not linked to the company's account.
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Therefore, they weren't being billed for the water.
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Now, they cleaned everything up, and they found out that the people that built it were trying to get it done,
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and they did some things they shouldn't have done.
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And so Quality Technology Services paid back Atlanta $150,000 for the water,
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But the point is the usage of water, I think, is bigger because power,
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If they'll just force them to make, and this is what I keep saying, Mr. President, Mr. President, get the nuclear power permits out so they could put a Gen 5 small reactor at the data center to provide power for the data center, and then if you have a local problem like tornadoes or power grid goes down in some areas, you reduce the power, you brown out the data center, and you switch it so that the nuclear reactor sends the power to the grid.
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Now, the water side of this, this is a big issue.
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It's like, where's the water going to come from, and how do we recycle it?
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And so I think some of this, Pat, data centers deserve the rap they're getting.
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I want to see a survey, just like you're asking about which data centers are making noise,
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because my understanding is they can be built quiet, except for the backup diesel generators,
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and you can be self-sufficient on water and power.
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the industry and its hunger to get these things built. They're not communicating or they're not
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designing them. And they're getting people, righteous citizens coming to City Hall, asking
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them for answers the way we've seen in these. These are not crazy people. Some of them are
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crazy, no data centers at all. But other people are just saying, hey, what's the plan to keep my
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electricity from going up? So the reason for this, these sounds of jet engines, multiple cities
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of people have filed lawsuits and complaints against these data centers because they're using
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these big machines cool the gpu is electricity cooling airflow which facilities chips from
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nvidia like the h100s b200s and gb200 systems and then while they're building up these racks
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the 50 kilowatt 100 kilowatt even 150 they're using giant fans to cool off and that sound is
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like the ac sound you hear like you know how you have the ac on you hear it in some places they
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can make it even a little bit less quiet but no matter what even at close range it says the
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The combined low-frequency roar can resemble airport tarmac noise,
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a large warehouse turbine, or distant jet engines.
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The cities that AI campuses residents are complaining is Phoenix, Dallas,
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Rob, this is another one that you just pulled up.
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So this is comparable to the data center that is going to be built.
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The guy from Scannell Properties told me to come and check out this data center.
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I'm hoping that my phone is capturing that noise.
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imagine working inside like imagine in there okay it didn't get any better adam thoughts
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look i uh this is an important question that i think we're gonna have to have a conversation
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with but i think there's precedent here that that everything's gonna work out the first question i
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ask myself is are we gonna need data centers in america yes we're gonna need them yes if we want
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to compete in the modern world the modern economy you don't do it the enemy will so you get to pick
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and choose they're already doing it yeah so to me it's a non-starter saying we can't have data
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centers in america it's going to happen the question is how close can they be from towns
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we have case examples of here we can't live near nuclear plants or power plants we don't live near
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landfills not many of us live near airports i know that we're ironically behind on one on an
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airport right now but they're going to figure out a rule where you know and local towns and
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municipalities and states are going to figure this out you data centers can't be within x amount of
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miles from town centers or from where the people are if you're living out in tumbektu in the middle
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of nowhere sorry buddy that might affect you but the the the reality is we're going to need data
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centers you know who controls data and ai is going to control the future we're on a fight with china
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and a lot of our enemies out there and if it's gonna affect some people's hearings you might
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have to move they might not have to uh build the data plant data centers right there but at the
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end of the day data centers are good for society good for the economy and just you might have to
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put on some earmuffs like an old school tom do they have to be next to the place that's using
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the like it can't be like you know when you're driving to vegas pat they had that outdoor uh
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solar panel field and it feeds all the way to you can put the data center wherever you want it you
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know you need water and you need energy and energy you know i'm on record saying that we should
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accelerate the nuclear permits so they can have small reactors on site.
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But if the cooling systems are still this loud, man,
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there is an opportunity somewhere for an entrepreneur to figure out how we can get
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cooling systems that are smaller, number one. And number two, we've got to figure out
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the water. If they're using water for cooling and they're just saying, hang on
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a second. Something tells me an entrepreneur is going to figure this out and tell these data centers to
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quiet down. Yeah, but listen, when you're living close to it,
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What is the most – here's a question to ask you.
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What is the most disturbing living situation you ever had
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that the average person wouldn't understand it unless they experienced it?
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I live in an apartment complex in North Hollywood.
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And, Pat, when I tell you there were studio apartments,
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I was living upstairs, downstairs, you heard everything.
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Every single noise you heard, upstairs, downstairs,
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anybody arguing whatever my downstairs neighbor this dude moved in pat the first day he moved in
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i woke up and just walked to the bathroom and he was boom boom boom boom boom and then started
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blasting music to like get back to me and it was a fight it was a constant fight because i'm like
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it's not my fault that you moved into an apartment i was there for four years you're coming to my to
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where i live and you can't handle like just walk regular walking and it was like a fight where i
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was trying to fight him by our because there was a pool in the middle you know the studio apartments
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in north hollywood it was horrible pat and thank god i got online let me tell you something have
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you ever lived in a major city like i never lived in new york but i spent a lot of time there
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any major city it's loud as hell any major city construction going on this that the other 24
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city the city never sleeps a lot of people are complaining are out and you know wichita cans
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is whatever they're they're not used to any noise and all of a sudden like these are the people
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complaining you talk to any person in any major city new york city anything like that they're
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like dude this is an everyday thing yeah tom the worst living condition right after i got out of
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college um uh rented a house with some other people that was all good but on the same street
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you know all of a sudden you know sirens in the middle of the night and you go on there and there's
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five people laying on the on the front lawn in handcuffs and everything and you find out that
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it's like wow. What do you mean they built a kitchen?
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It was everything. You're Walter White over here.
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This is in West Hills, Canoga Park, near Sherman Way.
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And now everybody was really concerned about traffic in that street for the next year.
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How do you think he made all the money he made?
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I mean, I walked down to the guy and I said, say my name.
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And he said, Heisenberg, and he says, you're right.
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Okay, but the point is, if you ever, like for us,
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we're on the airport here, 11 acres, literally,
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we have to get an update saying today an F-18 plane has taken off.
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Every day it's planes taking off, and I actually don't mind it.
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Do you even think about it when these planes take off?
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I mean, it's loud as hell, but you live and you learn.
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