Valuetainment - May 13, 2026


＂Three Times BIGGER Than Manhattan＂ - MEGA AI Data Center Sparks Tech War With Americans


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00:00:30.000 Next story I want to get to is a data center.
00:00:32.140 62-square-mile data center is being built in Utah.
00:00:36.720 People are not happy about it.
00:00:38.140 Kevin O'Leary was there.
00:00:39.280 But while this is happening, just to give you some fun facts on how big 63-square-miles is,
00:00:44.300 it's three Manhattans.
00:00:45.620 Manhattan is 23-square-miles.
00:00:47.960 And at the same time, while this is taking place, you have to hear what the sound's like.
00:00:51.360 I don't want to give you a sound yet.
00:00:53.380 Let's first go to this, Rob.
00:00:54.700 Is this the town hall?
00:00:56.000 Yep, they get right into it.
00:00:56.960 Okay, go for it.
00:01:00.000 concern and outrage in utah where hundreds of protesters this week flooded this meeting of
00:01:09.240 box elder county commissioners can you be quiet let our citizens hear what needs to be said please
00:01:14.940 as they voted to move forward with a controversial data center proposal
00:01:18.600 backed by celebrity canadian businessman kevin o'leary
00:01:22.200 hello sharks known as mr wonderful on the hit show shark tank you should do this deal you have
00:01:32.060 no risk just say yes o'leary firing back at the protesting criticism in this video posted on
00:01:38.260 social media after the vote i'm pretty aware of what these concerns are they are around air
00:01:43.380 water use heat sustainability is is at the heart of what we do in terms of all these proposals
00:01:49.580 not just Utah. The Stratus Project is a plan to build a 40,000 acre development near Utah's
00:01:55.860 Great Salt Lake, boosted by government tax incentives. And according to a county fact
00:02:00.700 sheet, is eventually expected to generate and consume up to nine gigawatts of power once
00:02:06.120 completed. A number MITA, the state entity backing the project, says is more than double
00:02:11.400 Utah's average energy consumption. That's the concern. Data centers of the old have a bad
00:02:16.140 reputation. They gobble up a lot of water, they use up your power, and then when they're all
00:02:23.600 built, they don't employ many people. This is not that. Power's usage is completely self-contained.
00:02:32.080 The project's potential environmental impact sparking much of the outrage.
00:02:36.160 We're losing land, we're losing water, and we're losing air quality.
00:02:38.980 This has the footprint.
00:02:40.160 Can you show the audio? This is actually a very good video. Can you show the audio
00:02:44.480 of what it sounds like, what these things sound like.
00:02:47.620 Is this going to be the same exact one, Rob,
00:02:50.260 or which data center is this that's making this sound?
00:02:52.600 Do we know?
00:02:53.680 I'll find out what data center this is.
00:02:55.500 Yeah, let's find out which data center that's from.
00:02:58.020 Go ahead, Rob.
00:03:01.100 Sounds like a plane taking off.
00:03:04.140 The C5.
00:03:05.580 Yeah.
00:03:06.680 Is that really what it sounds like?
00:03:08.680 It's outside.
00:03:11.440 Go in the comments section.
00:03:12.600 I'm just curious to know where this is.
00:03:14.480 Texas and Virginia, what does it say?
00:03:16.020 Texas and Virginia are currently leading the way with data centers.
00:03:18.260 Go a little bit lower to see what the audience is saying.
00:03:20.560 Go a little bit lower.
00:03:21.260 I'm just wondering if other people are saying this is what it sounds like.
00:03:24.460 That one, Pat, is in Vineland, New Jersey.
00:03:27.020 I had a data center that size.
00:03:28.640 As a client, it sounded nothing like this.
00:03:30.480 In fact, it didn't sound like anything.
00:03:32.060 What is making that noise?
00:03:33.540 Jet engines.
00:03:34.680 That's exactly what I said because I don't think that's what it sounds like.
00:03:38.200 Add positive information.
00:03:38.860 Instead of relinquishing data to China, we should solve this self-inflicted.
00:03:42.280 Go a little bit lower.
00:03:42.980 Let's see what she says.
00:03:44.060 They use different forms of electric power.
00:03:45.700 Some are even using gas turbines.
00:03:47.860 Don't argue with body counts.
00:03:49.060 Go a little bit lower.
00:03:50.640 What is the point of this?
00:03:51.940 Keep going a little bit lower.
00:03:53.760 Can we find out where that is, Rob?
00:03:55.060 I looked it up, Pat, and it says the data center in this video is Vineland, New Jersey,
00:03:59.540 Cumberland County, South Jersey, large Microsoft-backed AI data center facility.
00:04:05.020 And is the sound coming from that?
00:04:07.820 Can we find out if Grok or somebody can verify where that sound is coming from?
00:04:12.880 And I asked, Pat, is this what they sound like?
00:04:14.320 She said, yes, that's exactly what large AI data centers sound like,
00:04:17.860 especially when they're running heavy cooling systems
00:04:20.440 or backup on site power generation.
00:04:23.400 The Warring Humming in New Jersey is similar.
00:04:26.360 Massive arrays of cooling fans, air handling units, and cooling towers.
00:04:30.140 Noise characteristics at a distance, half a mile like many violent homes.
00:04:33.880 Meet your neighbor a giant data center.
00:04:35.240 Okay, this is what I want to see.
00:04:36.480 If this is real, I mean, what are we talking about if this is real?
00:04:40.120 Play this, Rob.
00:04:42.880 That's loud, Meshav. 0.98
00:04:44.720 That is loud.
00:04:47.620 But again, nowadays, I mean, you have to...
00:04:50.240 By the way, can you do me a favor?
00:04:51.940 In the comment section, comment, who lives by an AI data center and how bad is it?
00:04:58.460 You know, if you're actually right next to it right now, post a video right now with a link.
00:05:02.940 Send it to us on X.
00:05:04.080 A bunch of you guys are tweeting at me, at Patrick by David.
00:05:07.000 Post it on X and say, this is what it sounds like right now if you're close to a data center.
00:05:13.220 Tom, your thoughts.
00:05:14.000 So data centers are getting a bad name, earning a bad name, but there's so much that we could be doing better about it.
00:05:23.600 For instance, water usage.
00:05:26.140 That's the one I look at because I think some of these data centers make this noise,
00:05:30.700 But I think other data centers are quiet unless they turn on the backup power.
00:05:36.440 And the backup power are these enormous diesel engines.
00:05:39.800 If you've ever heard a hospital do, you hear a little siren,
00:05:43.560 and then the hospital does a power outage test,
00:05:46.800 and you hear them fire up, the big generators are outside.
00:05:49.540 It's loud, but that's the backup.
00:05:52.020 I want to know is what is the sound actually coming from the data center?
00:05:55.580 And, you know, how are they creating the power for the data center?
00:05:59.500 and what are they doing about water?
00:06:00.960 I thought it was very, very funny.
00:06:02.280 A data center in Atlanta, Pat, you'll love this.
00:06:05.460 They sucked up 30 million gallons of water
00:06:08.220 until there was outrage
00:06:10.420 because people were calling City Hall.
00:06:12.120 You know what they were asking?
00:06:13.120 I'm trying to take a shower
00:06:14.700 and the water pressure's down.
00:06:17.000 And so they go, let's figure it out.
00:06:19.420 So the city literally sent out people to go look at it.
00:06:21.940 It was Annalise Park in Fayetteville, Georgia,
00:06:25.080 about 20 miles south of Atlanta.
00:06:28.720 Vinny, you're going to love this.
00:06:30.160 They found out that one water connection had been installed without the city utilities knowledge,
00:06:35.200 and the other was not linked to the company's account.
00:06:38.220 Therefore, they weren't being billed for the water.
00:06:40.740 Now, they cleaned everything up, and they found out that the people that built it were trying to get it done,
00:06:45.340 and they did some things they shouldn't have done.
00:06:47.420 And so Quality Technology Services paid back Atlanta $150,000 for the water,
00:06:52.120 and they got it all back together.
00:06:53.480 But the point is the usage of water, I think, is bigger because power,
00:06:57.080 If they'll just force them to make, and this is what I keep saying, Mr. President, Mr. President, get the nuclear power permits out so they could put a Gen 5 small reactor at the data center to provide power for the data center, and then if you have a local problem like tornadoes or power grid goes down in some areas, you reduce the power, you brown out the data center, and you switch it so that the nuclear reactor sends the power to the grid.
00:07:26.300 Now, the water side of this, this is a big issue.
00:07:29.760 It's like, where's the water going to come from, and how do we recycle it?
00:07:33.320 Because they need all the cooling stuff.
00:07:35.440 And so I think some of this, Pat, data centers deserve the rap they're getting.
00:07:39.900 I want to see a survey, just like you're asking about which data centers are making noise,
00:07:43.900 because my understanding is they can be built quiet, except for the backup diesel generators,
00:07:49.580 and you can be self-sufficient on water and power.
00:07:53.300 But guess what?
00:07:53.820 the industry and its hunger to get these things built. They're not communicating or they're not
00:07:58.420 designing them. And they're getting people, righteous citizens coming to City Hall, asking
00:08:03.780 them for answers the way we've seen in these. These are not crazy people. Some of them are
00:08:08.340 crazy, no data centers at all. But other people are just saying, hey, what's the plan to keep my
00:08:13.040 electricity from going up? So the reason for this, these sounds of jet engines, multiple cities
00:08:18.280 of people have filed lawsuits and complaints against these data centers because they're using
00:08:23.220 these big machines cool the gpu is electricity cooling airflow which facilities chips from
00:08:28.840 nvidia like the h100s b200s and gb200 systems and then while they're building up these racks
00:08:34.360 the 50 kilowatt 100 kilowatt even 150 they're using giant fans to cool off and that sound is
00:08:41.500 like the ac sound you hear like you know how you have the ac on you hear it in some places they
00:08:46.020 can make it even a little bit less quiet but no matter what even at close range it says the
00:08:51.620 The combined low-frequency roar can resemble airport tarmac noise,
00:08:55.920 a large warehouse turbine, or distant jet engines.
00:09:01.280 The cities that AI campuses residents are complaining is Phoenix, Dallas,
00:09:06.080 Ashburn, Memphis, and it's not slowing down.
00:09:09.080 So it is a real thing that that noise exists.
00:09:11.120 Rob, this is another one that you just pulled up.
00:09:12.620 If you want to play this, go for it.
00:09:15.080 So this is comparable to the data center that is going to be built.
00:09:21.620 over in the Bertram chain of lakes.
00:09:28.740 The guy from Scannell Properties told me to come and check out this data center.
00:09:35.900 Wow, that's bad, Vinny.
00:09:37.480 I'm hoping that my phone is capturing that noise.
00:09:41.900 It is.
00:09:43.280 It is actually significantly loud.
00:09:45.940 That's what happens in my ears when I sleep.
00:09:51.620 imagine working inside like imagine in there okay it didn't get any better adam thoughts
00:09:59.600 look i uh this is an important question that i think we're gonna have to have a conversation
00:10:04.100 with but i think there's precedent here that that everything's gonna work out the first question i
00:10:08.040 ask myself is are we gonna need data centers in america yes we're gonna need them yes if we want
00:10:14.560 to compete in the modern world the modern economy you don't do it the enemy will so you get to pick
00:10:19.340 and choose they're already doing it yeah so to me it's a non-starter saying we can't have data
00:10:23.400 centers in america it's going to happen the question is how close can they be from towns
00:10:28.080 we have case examples of here we can't live near nuclear plants or power plants we don't live near
00:10:34.280 landfills not many of us live near airports i know that we're ironically behind on one on an
00:10:40.100 airport right now but they're going to figure out a rule where you know and local towns and
00:10:45.000 municipalities and states are going to figure this out you data centers can't be within x amount of
00:10:49.820 miles from town centers or from where the people are if you're living out in tumbektu in the middle
00:10:54.660 of nowhere sorry buddy that might affect you but the the the reality is we're going to need data 0.99
00:11:00.160 centers you know who controls data and ai is going to control the future we're on a fight with china 0.55
00:11:05.800 and a lot of our enemies out there and if it's gonna affect some people's hearings you might 0.99
00:11:10.740 have to move they might not have to uh build the data plant data centers right there but at the
00:11:15.640 end of the day data centers are good for society good for the economy and just you might have to
00:11:21.040 put on some earmuffs like an old school tom do they have to be next to the place that's using
00:11:25.360 the like it can't be like you know when you're driving to vegas pat they had that outdoor uh
00:11:29.940 solar panel field and it feeds all the way to you can put the data center wherever you want it you
00:11:35.240 know you need water and you need energy and energy you know i'm on record saying that we should
00:11:40.600 accelerate the nuclear permits so they can have small reactors on site.
00:11:44.920 But if the cooling systems are still this loud, man,
00:11:48.800 there is an opportunity somewhere for an entrepreneur to figure out how we can get
00:11:52.300 cooling systems that are smaller, number one. And number two, we've got to figure out
00:11:56.500 the water. If they're using water for cooling and they're just saying, hang on
00:12:00.480 a second. Something tells me an entrepreneur is going to figure this out and tell these data centers to
00:12:04.440 quiet down. Yeah, but listen, when you're living close to it,
00:12:08.280 What is the most – here's a question to ask you.
00:12:12.040 What is the most disturbing living situation you ever had
00:12:15.340 that the average person wouldn't understand it unless they experienced it?
00:12:18.600 Go ahead.
00:12:19.240 What was it for you?
00:12:20.100 Vinny snoring.
00:12:21.520 No, I'm being serious.
00:12:22.480 What is the most disturbing?
00:12:24.280 I live in an apartment complex in North Hollywood.
00:12:27.420 And, Pat, when I tell you there were studio apartments,
00:12:30.900 I was living upstairs, downstairs, you heard everything.
00:12:33.440 Every single noise you heard, upstairs, downstairs,
00:12:37.140 anybody arguing whatever my downstairs neighbor this dude moved in pat the first day he moved in
00:12:42.920 i woke up and just walked to the bathroom and he was boom boom boom boom boom and then started
00:12:47.500 blasting music to like get back to me and it was a fight it was a constant fight because i'm like
00:12:53.080 it's not my fault that you moved into an apartment i was there for four years you're coming to my to
00:12:57.680 where i live and you can't handle like just walk regular walking and it was like a fight where i
00:13:03.240 was trying to fight him by our because there was a pool in the middle you know the studio apartments
00:13:06.960 in north hollywood it was horrible pat and thank god i got online let me tell you something have
00:13:11.120 you ever lived in a major city like i never lived in new york but i spent a lot of time there
00:13:14.280 any major city it's loud as hell any major city construction going on this that the other 24
00:13:22.060 city the city never sleeps a lot of people are complaining are out and you know wichita cans
00:13:26.540 is whatever they're they're not used to any noise and all of a sudden like these are the people
00:13:31.180 complaining you talk to any person in any major city new york city anything like that they're
00:13:34.880 like dude this is an everyday thing yeah tom the worst living condition right after i got out of
00:13:42.480 college um uh rented a house with some other people that was all good but on the same street
00:13:49.000 you know all of a sudden you know sirens in the middle of the night and you go on there and there's
00:13:52.880 five people laying on the on the front lawn in handcuffs and everything and you find out that
00:13:58.580 they built a kitchen
00:14:00.680 you know they were building it was like a
00:14:02.620 and that they had tapped
00:14:04.700 into the power line
00:14:06.820 and were you know running all that power
00:14:08.760 and lights and stuff in there and so
00:14:10.900 it's like wow. What do you mean they built a kitchen?
00:14:12.520 Like a meth? No they were yeah. Cooking meth?
00:14:15.100 It was everything. You're Walter White over here.
00:14:16.980 Speak our language. No they were
00:14:18.420 cooking meth and then
00:14:20.620 the entire
00:14:21.720 garage was hydroponic
00:14:24.620 was hydroponic pot with all these
00:14:26.560 lamps in it and it was
00:14:28.040 This is in West Hills, Canoga Park, near Sherman Way.
00:14:32.480 I knew it.
00:14:32.940 And now everybody was really concerned about traffic in that street for the next year.
00:14:38.780 And we were right.
00:14:39.780 People learn more about him.
00:14:41.200 It's not your fault.
00:14:42.340 No, what do you mean it's not his fault?
00:14:43.300 He's Walter White.
00:14:44.160 He's literally Tom.
00:14:45.880 Where do you think his money comes from?
00:14:47.440 How do you think he made all the money he made?
00:14:49.020 Where's Jesse?
00:14:49.440 I mean, I walked down to the guy and I said, say my name.
00:14:54.660 Tom, you killed Gustavo Spring.
00:14:56.900 And he said, Heisenberg, and he says, you're right.
00:14:59.080 And then they left.
00:14:59.820 All right, let's go to the next story.
00:15:01.100 Okay, but the point is, if you ever, like for us,
00:15:04.180 we're on the airport here, 11 acres, literally,
00:15:06.940 we have to get an update saying today an F-18 plane has taken off.
00:15:10.040 Every day it's planes taking off, and I actually don't mind it.
00:15:14.040 I love it.
00:15:14.340 Does it bother you?
00:15:15.140 No point.
00:15:15.580 Does it at all?
00:15:16.620 No, it's quick.
00:15:17.280 Do you even think about it when these planes take off?
00:15:19.000 Well, yeah.
00:15:19.540 I mean, it's loud as hell, but you live and you learn.
00:15:24.240 From a military standpoint.
00:15:25.840 Probably because we're military.
00:15:26.480 I love it, but not.
00:15:27.420 And also, what we hear doesn't come through as much as we think.
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