Valuetainment - May 12, 2026


"Tied To Newsom's Wife" - California's $20M Diaper Contract EXPOSED As A Scam


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Who's the one person on the left that I've been saying has a shot at 2028 running? AOC. She does an interview and there are a couple things that come up. 1) She doesn't deny speculation of a 2028 presidential run. 2) She's no longer fighting it and even playing politics to say, "Well, no, not for me." 3) She tells Axelrod that she tailors her political ambitions to meet the moment.

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00:00:30.000 who's the one person on the left that I've been saying has a shot at 2028
00:00:34.620 running? AOC. Okay. So watch this. She does an interview. Okay.
00:00:38.920 And there's a couple of things that comes up. One, Rob,
00:00:42.080 if you can go to the one that she doesn't deny speculation of 2028
00:00:46.800 presidential run, 0.58
00:00:47.760 she's no longer fighting it and even playing politics to say, well, no,
00:00:52.580 not really. It's not for me.
00:00:54.400 I just want to focus on New York city and the boroughs.
00:00:57.020 This is what my focus is.
00:00:58.820 This is what she had to say when she was asked about running for president.
00:01:01.400 Go ahead, Rob.
00:01:01.840 When you aren't attached, right?
00:01:05.240 When you haven't been, like, fantasizing about being this or that since the time you were seven years old,
00:01:11.560 it is tremendously liberating.
00:01:18.300 Because I get to wake up every day and say, how am I going to meet the moment?
00:01:24.040 And conditions change radically all the time.
00:01:27.260 So I make my response less to an attachment to some positional title or position and working
00:01:38.820 backwards from there.
00:01:40.800 But I make decisions by waking up in the morning, looking out the window and observing the conditions
00:01:46.260 of this country and saying what move or what decision can I make today that is gonna get
00:01:52.820 It never comes.
00:01:53.660 Closer to that future, stronger, faster, better than yesterday.
00:02:00.280 She dances around the question pretty much the entire thing.
00:02:03.040 I think I just got back.
00:02:03.760 They assume, this is what she said, they assume that my ambition is a title or a seat, and my ambition is way bigger than that.
00:02:09.160 My ambition is to change this country.
00:02:11.680 Presidents come and go.
00:02:12.660 Elected officials come and go.
00:02:13.860 But single-payer health care is forever.
00:02:16.060 She continues.
00:02:17.340 And she told Axelrod that she tailors her political ambitions to meet the moment.
00:02:22.040 Conditions change radically all the time.
00:02:24.580 So I make my response less to an attachment, personal title case.
00:02:27.980 And I want to move, make the decision that I'm going to get closer to that future,
00:02:32.460 stronger, faster, better than yesterday.
00:02:34.860 She continues.
00:02:35.600 So she's hinting on what she's going to happen.
00:02:38.300 While she's doing this, there was a question.
00:02:40.900 She was doing a podcast about being a billionaire.
00:02:43.020 Do you remember that whole exchange with that one girl where they're both sitting there?
00:02:47.160 Not this one, Rob.
00:02:47.860 It's a different one, I think.
00:02:49.540 Horrible.
00:02:50.280 Do you know which one I'm talking about?
00:02:51.900 Oh, it's great. And how the founding fathers were somehow billionaires that were being fought against.
00:02:56.860 Rob, is this the one on this story? AOC claims American Revolution was fight against billionaires as critic schooler on that actual history.
00:03:04.180 Do you want to play that clip real quick? Go ahead, Rob.
00:03:08.160 I want to talk about how this is in the heritage of our country, because America was founded.
00:03:16.440 You look at Thomas Jefferson writing to Madison in Revolt of British Aristocracy.
00:03:27.100 The American Revolution was against the billionaires of their time.
00:03:34.740 And we are declaring independence from such an extreme marriage of wealth and power in the state that...
00:03:43.440 how do you not know the history of the basic thing that this was of like this the robin hood story
00:03:49.560 robin hood was against the billionaires no robin hood was against high taxes and the government
00:03:54.480 taking money away from you had slavery but the reality you can pause it right there rob the
00:03:58.540 reality of it is this is a very formidable candidate it is and then she's doing this
00:04:04.220 podcast rob i know you have it she's doing this podcast with this other girl they're like
00:04:08.240 billionaires this and billionaires that oh yeah and the other girl keeps saying that's right yeah
00:04:12.160 And so who knows what this is going to lead to, but the reality of it is she is a formidable candidate for 2027, 2028.
00:04:22.140 There was a podcast, Rob, it was.
00:04:23.600 I'll pause here while we're going through it.
00:04:25.180 That's the one right there, Rob.
00:04:26.240 Go for it.
00:04:26.980 Watch this, folks.
00:04:27.680 There's a certain level of wealth and accumulation that is unearned, right?
00:04:35.300 You can't earn a billion dollars.
00:04:39.620 That's right.
00:04:39.900 You just can't earn that.
00:04:42.320 That's exactly correct.
00:04:43.580 You can get market power.
00:04:47.140 You can break rules.
00:04:50.140 You can do all sorts of things.
00:04:52.080 You can abuse labor laws. 0.61
00:04:54.060 You can pay people less than what they're worth.
00:04:56.860 But you can't earn that, right?
00:04:58.680 And so you have to create a myth that since you didn't earn that,
00:05:06.560 you have to create a myth of earning it.
00:05:09.360 Seriously.
00:05:09.900 There's a certain level of...
00:05:11.600 Tom, I'm going to come to you first with AOC.
00:05:13.720 Go ahead.
00:05:14.300 Look, this is an incredibly formidable candidate. 1.00
00:05:17.400 I could sit here and pick on her and play, you know, ding-dong bingo, right? 1.00
00:05:23.480 A6, B6, you know, C22, D19.
00:05:26.600 Bingo, we have a winner.
00:05:27.960 And pick on it that way, but I'm not going to.
00:05:29.960 What I'm going to point out, this is the most skillful communicator
00:05:35.660 because there are people in there.
00:05:37.820 You look at that clip there.
00:05:39.020 There are people out there that we're listening to That's Right that feel the same way because they're destitute or because they're struggling or because something's wrong in their life, and they believe that that voice is representing a solution and a way out and somehow cares for them.
00:05:53.900 They don't understand that there's no spreadsheet behind what she's saying, meaning that there's no budget or there's no long-term corrective fix in what she's saying.
00:06:04.860 But people are listening to this very formidable communicator, this very telegenic person, this person that presents herself female, ethnic, and all the things that go with it, which are things that we should be celebrating in America about the diversity of everywhere we are.
00:06:20.240 And it's diversity of people, but then merit on achievement.
00:06:24.400 And instead, she sits there and she does like this.
00:06:27.140 And what worries me, Pat, is that is a really formidable candidate.
00:06:32.200 I'm going to make a comparison.
00:06:33.240 and everybody's going to attack me, but remember, go through history.
00:06:37.040 It says, forget about World War II and what he did.
00:06:40.500 Mussolini came to power promising to make the trains run on time, among other things.
00:06:44.880 Now, forget all the other allies and everything he had,
00:06:47.340 but think about that simple promise he was trying to make to the Italian people at the time.
00:06:51.580 Hey, man, things are so bad.
00:06:53.440 I'll tell you the truth.
00:06:54.500 We'll start simple.
00:06:55.400 I'll make the trains run on time. 0.82
00:06:56.920 And that's who she is in this telegenic, absolutely amazing campaigner 0.99
00:07:01.860 that I think people should be joking about less 1.00
00:07:04.780 and figuring out how to counter her
00:07:07.560 and the people that are listening to her more.
00:07:10.240 I'm not buying it, man.
00:07:12.120 I understand why people make the argument
00:07:14.300 that she's a formidable competitor.
00:07:15.840 I understand. 0.63
00:07:17.100 So, you know, she's very big on social media. 0.96
00:07:21.960 For a politician, she's a, you know, a 10.
00:07:26.180 But in real life, she's a 6.
00:07:27.960 I mean, not to go down that path. 0.97
00:07:29.660 they look at her like she's some incredible person because she's more attractive than all 1.00
00:07:34.380 the other politicians but what are her policies what does she stand for she's living in in in the 1.00
00:07:39.980 the wokest leftist district in brooklyn she's underqualified she's unprepared and if she gets 1.00
00:07:45.700 on a debate stage versus a marco rubio are you kidding me are you kidding me talk about being
00:07:51.620 qualified again i get why people want to play that game but regarding the billionaires i'm so
00:07:58.120 sick of this you remember when you did the debate in jubilee and you had to make your um uh you said
00:08:04.260 my assertion is the following and you said billionaires are great for society and then you
00:08:08.800 went through the societies that have the most billionaires and the societies that have the
00:08:13.300 least billionaires and if you just look at the math here it's not even close united states here
00:08:17.660 obviously china's second which uses capitalism and then has uh communism to basically spread the
00:08:22.200 wealth but if you look at a map of south korea versus north korea i mean like the the the
00:08:27.540 conversations over why because billionaires create jobs and opportunities and billionaires create
00:08:33.140 millionaires and then millionaires they create jobs and opportunities they create thousandaires
00:08:37.900 but when there's no millionaires and there's no billionaires everyone's just equally poor so if
00:08:42.580 you're just solving for equity where we're all in the same place poor as hell vote for AOC and
00:08:48.680 that's the biggest problem that she just does not respect it and it's and it's scary because it's 0.96
00:08:52.780 It's like, Tom, pointing out her, you know, she's not stupid, 0.98
00:08:57.220 but she's not the brightest person in the room. 0.97
00:08:59.500 When she's like, you know what, we're all going to die.
00:09:01.500 The world's going to end if we don't change climate change in what?
00:09:04.060 What was it, six years or whatever?
00:09:05.600 Well, Bernie Sanders said that, and I tweeted this weekend.
00:09:08.040 I said, you know, we're all dead.
00:09:11.920 Yeah, no, you're right.
00:09:12.600 We're supposed to be dead.
00:09:13.360 And I understand the fact that she's formidable in the sense of the social media
00:09:17.700 and she's out there and she's attractive and she's that person.
00:09:20.460 But, again, the policies that these people want, it has never worked.
00:09:26.160 It never worked.
00:09:27.020 This socialist, communist attitude. 0.71
00:09:29.380 Look at Mamdani. 0.99
00:09:30.340 She is the Mamdani. 0.99
00:09:31.800 You want your country to look like New York? 1.00
00:09:34.500 Then vote for these people. 1.00
00:09:35.860 And don't do this stupid identity politics. 1.00
00:09:38.540 Well, we just need – I'm with her. 1.00
00:09:41.540 I'm with Hillary, one of the most corrupt people out there that cost the lives of Americans in Benghazi.
00:09:46.520 But I'm with her. 0.97
00:09:48.200 She's a – who cares? 1.00
00:09:49.380 Compared to Hillary. 1.00
00:09:50.460 I mean, look, AOC makes Kamala Harris look like a genius. 1.00
00:09:55.200 She makes Hillary Clinton look like Albert Einstein.
00:09:58.440 Like, there's different levels to this.
00:10:00.280 Okay, but by the way, if you notice, what did she say?
00:10:03.400 What reference did she say?
00:10:05.180 The American Revolution is the king.
00:10:07.200 Whose name did she use?
00:10:09.520 Jefferson.
00:10:10.380 Jefferson and Madison.
00:10:11.740 So when's the last time you've heard her use phrase Jefferson to try to teach us history?
00:10:16.700 When's the last time you've seen her?
00:10:17.580 I've never heard her say it.
00:10:18.180 Okay, but why do you think you're hearing it?
00:10:20.140 Because she's trying to sound more presidential, probably. 0.98
00:10:21.980 Because people behind closed doors are working with her saying, 0.92
00:10:25.580 read this book, read that book, read this, study this, study that, study this,
00:10:29.360 because you're going to go up against Marco Rubio.
00:10:31.400 This was a great glimpse of somebody who was prepping to run for president
00:10:37.520 and they're learning history, okay, prepping.
00:10:41.220 There's a big difference, Adam, between prepping and winning, okay?
00:10:44.980 I watched Rubio the other day.
00:10:47.260 He's at a hearing, and he's being asked a question about, you know,
00:10:51.760 this lady says, you have this job, you have that job, you have this job.
00:10:54.780 Are you really the National Security Advisor, Council, whatever the NAC is it?
00:11:00.200 NAC, National Advisory.
00:11:01.680 Okay, so he says, and you're the secretaries, and you're this.
00:11:04.380 And are Witkoff and Kushner talking to you?
00:11:08.540 Are they dealing directly with the president, and you're not even involved?
00:11:11.580 He says, no, I talked to Witkoff, and he says, let me answer this question
00:11:15.180 because it's a very good question you're asking me.
00:11:17.500 And you just watch the way he handles himself, and he educated.
00:11:21.160 The role that this job plays is this, and it depends on portfolio to portfolio,
00:11:26.820 on what happens, on who communicates with who.
00:11:29.040 But I talked just the way he educates.
00:11:31.740 Good luck debating against a guy like that.
00:11:35.320 But I do think watching her, like when I go to Dylan,
00:11:40.960 pick the team he's going to.
00:11:42.520 This took a couple months.
00:11:43.600 We don't need to make the announcement of what team it is.
00:11:45.180 but he picked the team that he's going to, okay?
00:11:48.520 So you know what happens when I go to these tryouts?
00:11:52.140 I'm like, I remember that kid.
00:11:53.700 Let me see how much he's improved.
00:11:54.840 He's gotten taller, but he's the same as it was two years ago.
00:11:58.020 I remember that kid.
00:11:59.340 My God, he's gotten better.
00:12:01.160 So I go talk to the parent.
00:12:02.360 What have you guys been doing?
00:12:03.840 Then I'll go look at that kid. 0.98
00:12:05.320 I'm like, oh, he's still silly. 0.95
00:12:07.320 Then I'll go look at that kid. 0.96
00:12:08.380 I'm like, he's put on weight.
00:12:09.840 Then I'll go look at that kid.
00:12:10.880 I'm like, my God, that guy just got faster all over. 0.93
00:12:13.080 He's a bullet.
00:12:13.740 Look at this guy.
00:12:15.080 Look how much of a speed that he has, right?
00:12:17.140 You have to watch what Talon is doing.
00:12:19.520 AOC is realizing there's a difference between Miami,
00:12:23.320 there's a difference between New York City and National.
00:12:26.260 She has to get these things right, and she's prepping for it.
00:12:29.440 And, you know, win or loss, I don't know,
00:12:31.860 but she's not going to be one that's going to be sin.
00:12:34.880 Listen, there was a lot of people in the establishment
00:12:37.040 that wanted Andrew Cuomo.
00:12:39.260 There's a lot of people in the establishment
00:12:40.580 that wanted Andrew Cuomo.
00:12:42.060 But guess what happened?
00:12:43.100 Mamdani fought it, and what happened?
00:12:44.500 Mamdani he won in what city
00:12:46.420 New York City of course so
00:12:48.180 again big difference big different game
00:12:50.340 but she has a higher likelihood 0.99
00:12:52.480 of replacing Chuck Schumer or something 1.00
00:12:54.440 like that in New York and that's still even
00:12:56.220 statewide we'll see if that happens and we're glossing
00:12:58.460 over the fact that she said billionaires during Thomas
00:13:00.400 Jefferson what that's what year is that
00:13:02.460 1776 there's no
00:13:04.600 the word billionaires didn't even come
00:13:06.380 about like Rockefeller was the first
00:13:08.280 billionaire in 1900 what the hell
00:13:10.460 is she even talking about she's making the comparison she's trying to
00:13:12.460 say that the billionaires of today are basically like socialists love the movie robin hood yeah
00:13:17.240 always remember what was the movie robin hood about was it taken from the wealthy and given
00:13:21.740 it to the poor no it was not robin who was the king in robin hood um king george and what would
00:13:28.700 he do well it was a feudal system they would basically tax the people and basically not about
00:13:32.680 anything exactly it was not about the wealthy it was about the government overtaxing people
00:13:39.420 Actually, that is about
00:13:41.680 Socialism and high taxation
00:13:43.500 And what it does
00:13:44.220 And a government tries to keep the promises
00:13:46.240 And they don't
00:13:46.700 It's got nothing to do with millionaires and billionaires 1.00
00:13:48.920 It's a bunch of bullshit 1.00
00:13:50.240 Because they had all the money 1.00
00:13:52.420 The king had all the money
00:13:53.220 If the government had the power
00:13:54.800 Give it to the people
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