＂Trump Canceled Us On The Ramp＂ – Navy SEALs Reveal Secret Aborted Mission That Almost Sparked WAR
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On this episode of the podcast, we sit down with retired Navy Admiral Mike Hayden, who served with the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JIEDDO) for 17 years. He talks about some of the scariest moments of his career, including the time a nuclear bomb exploded in his face on a mission, and how he managed to get back on the plane.
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During the 17 years you guys were in, was there ever a moment where you guys were so deep that
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you had intel where we were this close to possibility of a world war, something really
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nasty? Was it ever a point where it was so close that if this thing happens and this triggers this,
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we could be in a world war three overnight? Was there ever a moment like that in your 17 years?
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There were a couple scenarios under the Trump administration right before I retired. We were
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spinning up to do a couple things that if they would have went, potentially, potentially. And
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I'll be honest, Trump kanked us when we were on the ramp getting ready to go. He solved it. However
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he does, whatever he does, he called and literally stopped us on a ramp. You vividly remember that?
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I mean, we spun up to go. We were going to go do the thing and got in midair and got ready to do
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the whole process and we got canceled and spun around and came back home.
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Okay. So this has got to be 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019. This is that time.
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I mean, potentially, I mean, it could have been an active engagement with a bunch of Russians.
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So you're on the ramp. You're ready to go. Everybody's, you know, strapped. You're boom.
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Get the phone call. Nope. It's quarter. We're not going on it.
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Oh, I mean, everybody wants it. Everybody wants to go. And you start to think about the ramifications.
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Like, what if this goes south? What if this does spike off the whole thing and now we're stuck here?
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We can't get back home. What if it, what if it does go nuclear? Now everybody's back home and we're stuck
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here in the middle of nowhere. I mean, it gets dicey.
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But, but is, is it like, okay. So yeah, let me ask a question in a different way. Is, is it like, um,
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you ever seen, you've seen a movie Hurt Locker. I don't know if you, with, uh, what's his name?
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Who's in his phenomenal, Jeremy Reiner, right? There's some name like that, right? What's his name?
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Renner. I'm sorry. Jeremy Renner. Yeah. Phenomenal actor.
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And you watch him just go up and he shows almost the addiction with the adrenaline and the life on
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how close you're always on the edge. And he always wants to go back. Every time he comes back,
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he's around his wife. He's like, he just wants to go back and doesn't know how to be a father.
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Is it like you're, you're always itching for something to be a part of? Like,
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Yeah. And what Jeremy Renner does in that movie is he's operating on switches and not dials.
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He's flipped it. He fell in love with it. He gets a taste of the adrenaline. You can't get it out of
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your system now. Now you just chase it. We call it chasing a dragon. You can chase the entire time.
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Be careful what you wish for. You'll eventually find it. But a lot of times they spend their entire
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career chasing the one thing and they never stopped. Um, you don't enjoy it.
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Was this mission to take somebody out? I can't get into all the specifics, but yeah,
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I mean, it was a, a lot of people going through international waters that shouldn't have been
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potentially possibly carrying some stuff they shouldn't have been. And we were going to intervene
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and he solved it, which is a good thing and a bad thing. Cause you want to go to work. You want to do
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the thing. But the way it was presented, that was solved. Was it like, yeah, I made a phone call.
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I spoke to him. Did he publicly say how he solved it or no? This was all behind. So this is not even
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anything that publicly has been disclosed. Yeah. I mean, we don't even get a phone call.
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Just they literally turn around like, can't get going back home. Was Barrett your, was, was he
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your commander at the time? The chief at the time? Okay. No. So he got out in a 20, 24, no 92, he's to
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2014. So no, he wouldn't have been in. Uh, I thought it was 92 to 2014, 22 years and a month. I think.
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Yeah. He would, he wouldn't have been in. He got a 2014, 22 years and a month.
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Yeah. So, okay. Interesting. So today, what we're seeing right now, right? You, and maybe
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let me go while we're still on that topic there. Gassam Soleimani. Do you guys remember Gassam
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Soleimani? And when that, that happened, that was a, were you guys part of that at all or
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no? Do you guys know a friend? Okay. So you obviously have peers that were part of this,
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who were on this mission. This was a crazy one. No. I mean, this was a January 3rd, 2020. We take
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out Gassam Soleimani, who is the guy who manages all the, you know, Islamic revolutionary guard. He's
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the guy that's dealing with all the proxies. He's the guy that's dealing with Houthis, with Hezbollah,
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with all those things. And he could potentially be the guy that's running Iran. When this happened,
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were you guys like, holy shit, this could turn into something? Or was it like, okay, this is a
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statement. Knock it off. Stop. Don't do anything. And if you do, this is what the U.S. is capable of
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I see that as like a show of force. Like how committed we are, how far you're willing to go
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for the whole thing. No different than, you know, the Israelis after Black September. I don't care if
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it takes a decade. We're going to go the entire way. And I think we've shown that as a country
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a lot. Take us 10 years, 20 years, we're going to keep going the entire way just because we said we
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would. Then it's what it is. You can go wherever you want to. You can hide as much as you want.
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Your trade craft can be phenomenal. We just have people that are going to sit in this room all day
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long and do nothing but hunt you. And we'll find you. It's a superpower.
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I mean, you have people that just sit in a room all day long and do nothing but just pick you apart.
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They'll unravel your entire existence right now. That's all they do. And there's endless manpower
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Yeah, I mean, anybody we have to go after, any target we have, I mean, there's just,
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