＂Trump Is Playing Mamdani＂ - Mamdani’s ‘Fascist’ Spin BACKFIRES After Cordial Oval Office Meeting
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Summary
After a meeting with President Donald Trump, a reporter asks a question that went viral on social media about the president. Is the President a fascist? Does the President agree with it? And what does it mean for the future of the country?
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Mamdani, we haven't covered it yet. He comes to the White House to meet with the president.
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He requests it to meet with the president. The president, of course, says yes, no problem.
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He's from New York. The president made his wealth in New York. He came up in New York.
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He has a lot of history in New York. And so Mamdani's like, yeah, I definitely have to come meet with this guy
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to try to find things, to make things work out. And while they're having conversations,
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there's a moment where one of the reporters asks a question about, look, you've called the president
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a fascist, and he gets ready to explain himself. And this shows you how comfortable the president
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is in his own skin. He's like, just say what you want to say. Don't argue with it. You're going to
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have to do this your entire life. And watch what happens. This was a very, very special moment
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To Stephen Nelson, he asked about your comment calling the president a fascist. And your answer
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was, both President Trump and I have been clear about our positions and our views.
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Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?
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It's easier. It's easier than explaining it. I don't mind.
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But there was another moment where they talked about, behind closed doors, Rob, where they
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had agreements where he asked a question on, you know, the president won the votes over
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for people that were struggling with affordability.
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I have where Momdani says that the meeting was productive towards the end.
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And as he said, it was a productive meeting focused on a place of shared admiration and
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love, which is New York City, and the need to deliver affordability to New Yorkers, the
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8.5 million people who call our city their home, who are struggling to afford life in
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the most expensive city in the United States of America.
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We spoke about the different ways in which people are being pushed out.
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I look forward to working together to deliver that affordability for New Yorkers.
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And by the way, there's a clip where Trump says he would be comfortable living in New
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Would you feel comfortable living in New York City under a Momdani administration?
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We agree on a lot more than I would have thought.
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I think he's I want him to do a great job and will help him do a great job.
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You know, he may have different views, but in many ways, you know, we were discussing
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I picked up a lot of his votes and people had no idea because he was strong on not getting
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ripped off in trade and lots of the things that I've practiced and have been very successful
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Bernie Sanders and I agreed on much more than people thought.
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And when he was put out of the race, I think quite unfairly, if you want to know the truth,
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many of the Bernie Sanders voters voted for me.
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And I felt very comfortable, frankly, in seeing that and saying that and, you know, just turned
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I would be I would feel very, very comfortable being in New York.
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Tom, I would be very comfortable being in New York and much more so after the meeting yesterday.
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The answer is I happen to think that Mandami got introduced to something called a spreadsheet
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and that there's things that have to happen in New York that require federal money for
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But what's very interesting is this is the way Trump negotiates.
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Trump doesn't always spike the volleyball right there at the net.
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He said, no, no, we agree more than I would have thought.
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So Trump is making sure the base, like us, you know, do not look at this and say, don't
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But then Mandami goes on a day later, Kristen Welker, I meet the press.
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It sort of doubles down on the evil, you know, the evils of the Trump administration a little
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He didn't go turn it up to 10, but he was on at eight.
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So both men are talking to their bases after the meeting.
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It's like the elder statesman trying to help the guy standing by his dad's desk with his
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But I happen to think that he got an economic lesson on what it's going to take to balance
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And that Hochul's got to go from Albany to D.C. to get money that she can give to New York.
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And I think that reality is coming home to roost.
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And I don't think, you know, I was reading over the weekend that the city council in New
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They're not all lining up with Mandami, line up, line up, line up.
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The city council in New York is a little bit freaked over the potential for losing business
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I think, well, again, because you made a great point, Pat, when we were talking this
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weekend about how you don't, nobody knows, like you don't know what, Trump knows what
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That look, that smile that's slapping him, it's all intentional.
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I personally don't, I think, you know, he's a wolf, this guy's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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Like that smile, that touching his heart, I'm not buying it.
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But what he said, and he doubled down here with Christy, Kristen Walker, where he said,
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And my thing is, when you throw that word around, it's not like a harmless insult.
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Adam, you say that to somebody, you take them down, you strip them, you want to put
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So keep, that's, that rhetoric keeps going, keep going.
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I think Trump does have something up his sleeves with this guy because he's too calm
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and he's too complimentative because he has him.
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And I think, Pat, he's going to give him the rope.
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Everything that you're talking about, go do it.
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And we're going to see in two years that it's going to fail.
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I think that's that business savvy that Trump has.
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Here's a follow-up meeting with Meet the President.
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In that press conference with President Trump, a reporter asked you whether you believe that
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President Trump is in fact a fascist, a word that you've used in the past.
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Then President Trump sort of jumped in and he said, quote, that's okay.
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So, Mr. Mayor-elect, just to be very clear, do you think that President Trump is a fascist?
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And after President Trump said that, I said yes.
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And that's something that I've said in the past.
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And I think what I appreciated about the conversation that I had with the president was that we were
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not shy about the places of disagreement about the politics that has brought us to this
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And we also wanted to focus on what it could look like to deliver on a shared analysis of
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You've also said in the past that President Trump has engaged in a, quote, attack on our
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Do you still believe President Trump is a threat to the democracy?
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Everything that I've said in the past, I continue to believe.
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And that's the thing that I think is important in our politics is that we don't shy away from
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where we have disagreements, but we understand what it is that brings us to that table.
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Because I'm not coming into the Oval Office to make a point or make a stand.
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I'm coming in there to deliver for New Yorkers.
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Because when Mamdani fails, which he will, he no longer can blame Trump.
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Now he has to say, yeah, I met with the fascist.
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But how do you feel about saying fascist, threat to democracy, and still having that language?
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I think if this was first term, he handles it in a different way, president.
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And meaning, when it's second term, you already have your base.
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So some people on his base are going to be like, what are you doing?
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And, you know, why you treat him so respectfully?
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There's a bunch of people right now running as socialists, just so you know.
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And some socialists are upset with him for how friendly he was with Trump.
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They're upset with him and AOC because both him and AOC are now supportive of Hakeem Jeffries.
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Even though Hakeem Jeffries is running against a socialist right now, they're not siding with a socialist.
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So it's a very interesting thing that's going on behind closed doors.
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So this could end up backfiring in a different way.
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Trump's not trying to be, you know, he doesn't need new friends.
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He's not sitting there saying, oh, my God, I want to be friends with this guy.
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And, by the way, if you look at Mamdani's body language, you know what?
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This is the person that's running against, is this the one, Rob, that's running against Hakeem Jeffries?
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But AOC and Mamdani are siding with Hakeem Jeffries.
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And socialist parties say, no, you're no longer socialist.
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You went from being a socialist to now you're a capitalist, sitting down with capitalists.
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So there's some stuff that's going on over there.
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But going back to it, if you look at the body language of Mamdani standing next to the president, you know what you'll notice?
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Do you notice a look like Mamdani's telling himself in his head, what is wrong with this guy?
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If you think about it, like, is this the one where he pats him in the back and says, just say yes?
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He's asking himself, what's the president doing?
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Let me tell you, if there's one thing about this guy, he pays attention to data.
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He knows when the day Bernie Sanders lost, never forget what press conference, not lost,
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when they asked him to step out, never forget what he did and how he leveraged that situation.
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And so Bernie's, the Bernie, what were they called?
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They sat out and they're like, I'm not even voting for Hillary.
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So look, of course, I don't agree with the politics Mamdani is doing and the stuff he's
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But you have to know that Trump is playing games.
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No, he did the same thing with Biden and Kamala.
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If you remember that, he was like, you're just going to anoint this person after just dismantling
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So if you can attack him online, but in person, he's going to treat you nicely.
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If you treat him nicely, he's going to treat you nicely.
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I wasn't a fan of this, but I think he handled it well.
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Fascism allows you to be like, I'm the freedom fighter.
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You can't just call him a Republican and say, I disagree with that politician.
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It's it's there's profanity at the highest level.
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If you're watching Indecent Proposal or if you're watching some of these movies, you just
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Like if you ever watch Forgetting Sarah Marshall and you forgot the three scenes of Forgetting
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The other day, I'm like, I haven't seen a movie for 10 years.
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I'm like, oh, I forgot about these three scenes and you forget inside of you.
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You know what prompted me to want to play this video is these words.
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Chauvinist, bigotry, misogynist, Zionist, whatever you want to put, anti-Semitic, what
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Any of these words you want to put, they no longer.
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One of the best things you do for your sanity is to not read the chat on DVD podcast.
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Hey, for those watching, just let her rip for 30 seconds so you can kind of get an idea
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Anyways, so this is the part where certain words no longer mean anything today.
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I've never heard anybody call somebody a bowling pin upside down.
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So, Rob, if you want to play this clip, go ahead.
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Come in here and pay me and then you can talk to us all kind of way you want to, bro.
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I can come back to your damn country if you want to act like that.
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Yeah, bitches like to eat and my kids like to eat.
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I pay taxes for your fucking food and you told me to go back to my country?
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The fuck look like a fucking upside down bowling pin looking ass.
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I would love to see what this woman looks like.
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Can you check to see if Grok, if this is AI, if it's real?
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This video appears to be from a Sally Beauty Supply Visible Science Initiative?
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Like, there's a part of it where it's like that fear of walking on X-rays.
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I'm just a regular person trying to live my life and calling him...
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But he's saying what a lot of people are thinking, and his switch gets flipped.
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No, but the things like, you're here in a beauty store and getting mani-pedi when you're
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And then apparently she went off on him in some way, some level.
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Are we defending the legal immigrant over the actual citizen?
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Because he's actually working, doing his thing.
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And she's living off the government with her kids.
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You ever wonder why Senna walks by and didn't give you a high five?
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She's not paying taxes yet, but when we buy gum for her...
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If a guy is contributing to society, that's what you want.
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Going back to the Mambrani thing, Pat, this is going back to the Democrats and how they've
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successfully made words like racist, fascist, Hitler, Nazi, like a throwaway meaning we hear
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He's standing in the White House and he said, yeah, this guy, the president who's sitting
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And it sucks because when we actually have to use those words, when somebody's actually
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Now when another Hitler shows up, guess what people are going to say?
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Because you remember when he won, people were like, we could say the F word again.
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Trump, good, bad, and ugly enabled free speech, which I think is a good thing.
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But now people are feeling a little more lippy, which is okay, but a little more racism is
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