Valuetainment - January 31, 2026


＂Trump Never Called Me Again＂ - Michael Cohen BREAKS DOWN The Raid That Ended EVERYTHING


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10 minutes

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193.48877

Word Count

2,094

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183

Misogynist Sentences

1

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1


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 From there on, what I'm trying to find out is, did you approach him?
00:00:03.200 Did you talk to him?
00:00:03.980 How sudden was the fall of communication with him?
00:00:07.360 The late night, the early calls?
00:00:08.740 Or was it still going on?
00:00:09.940 That's still taking place?
00:00:11.100 That's stopped.
00:00:12.240 So when is the last time you spoke to him?
00:00:14.060 The day after the raid.
00:00:15.500 The last time you spoke to him is the day after the raid?
00:00:17.440 The day after the raid.
00:00:18.400 You've never spoken to him since?
00:00:19.720 The day after the raid.
00:00:21.280 Got it.
00:00:21.700 Okay.
00:00:22.420 So you called him or he called you?
00:00:24.540 I called him to let him know I was raided by the FBI,
00:00:28.400 which I found to be unusual.
00:00:32.280 Even back then, Trump didn't fully appreciate the power of the presidency,
00:00:40.580 but people still feared him because he was getting rid of people left and right.
00:00:47.120 Remember how many people got shitcanned from the beginning?
00:00:50.560 You're going to really tell me that the FBI was raiding the home hotel and law office
00:00:58.500 of the personal attorney to the president of the United States
00:01:01.300 and nobody had the decency to tell the president that this was going to happen?
00:01:06.460 Why did he allow that to happen?
00:01:08.900 Can I speculate?
00:01:10.060 You can.
00:01:10.480 Okay, so if you're in a position like that and he has a lot of people that are in his ear, right?
00:01:17.940 If you're in a position like that and there's a lot of people in his ear,
00:01:21.160 and I've gone through this before, I've gone through it closely,
00:01:26.140 of course, on a much smaller scale in a business where you're like,
00:01:29.300 wait a minute, who is on my side right now?
00:01:31.660 That guy used to be on my side.
00:01:33.500 But why are you protecting that guy now?
00:01:36.660 Used to say this, now you're getting a little too cocky
00:01:39.160 because we're getting so much attention.
00:01:40.540 You're walking around like you run this place and you look at me in a certain way.
00:01:44.040 Don't look at me like that.
00:01:45.020 You never looked at me like that before.
00:01:46.320 Don't get too comfortable.
00:01:47.940 And there's a certain level of expectation to maintain that energy of respect
00:01:52.560 to know he's it, right?
00:01:54.040 The power struggle.
00:01:56.020 He's trying to learn everybody.
00:01:57.180 He's trying to study everybody.
00:02:00.020 As that is happening, don't you think there's a part of it where to say,
00:02:06.120 okay, he's going through a season that he went into a world that he doesn't know this world yet.
00:02:13.080 It's his first term.
00:02:14.220 He's much better now.
00:02:15.280 I mean, he knows what he's doing now with his third term, whatever you want to call it.
00:02:18.560 Of course, those four years he was off, he learned a lot.
00:02:21.400 It was actually, he has an advantage because at that fourth year of being off,
00:02:25.820 everybody came and gave him so much information to prepare for this.
00:02:28.540 Right, but let's at least acknowledge it's his second term, not his third.
00:02:31.800 For sure it is.
00:02:32.500 It's his second term.
00:02:33.180 Because otherwise that would make this term unconstitutional.
00:02:34.960 No, no, no, this is a second term.
00:02:36.620 What I'm saying is that four year was a very good break of getting smarter.
00:02:40.440 I think he has a competitive advantage over his peers.
00:02:42.960 But don't you think while you're in that moment, like there's a little bit of saying,
00:02:47.160 and maybe he's going through a season.
00:02:49.160 Let me see what he's going through.
00:02:50.760 Instead of, nope, I'm out.
00:02:52.940 Yeah, that's not how it would happen.
00:02:54.380 You see, what you're doing is you're creating a break in a timeline.
00:02:58.620 I didn't break the timeline.
00:03:00.160 The people, the enablers, the sycophants that were around him are the ones who did it.
00:03:07.380 Who are some of the names?
00:03:08.480 Who are some of the names?
00:03:08.960 Jay Sekulow.
00:03:09.760 Okay, who else?
00:03:10.020 In my book, Revenge, Jared Kushner, Reince Priebus, Steve Bannon.
00:03:16.420 There was a whole group of them.
00:03:17.600 You got to cut them off.
00:03:18.420 You got to cut them off.
00:03:19.540 Now, Jared, that saddens me too because we had a friendship.
00:03:22.200 You know, Ivanka, from what I understand from investigations that I used to write my book,
00:03:29.020 Revenge, Ivanka was like, you can't do that to MC.
00:03:33.120 Her nickname for me.
00:03:34.680 Right?
00:03:34.880 You can't do that to MC.
00:03:37.240 Stop.
00:03:38.380 Well, he took the advice of people who were never in his orbit before over the protection of me.
00:03:52.200 And I don't think that you or even any of your listeners would turn around and say, yeah, I would have done that.
00:03:59.860 I think everybody would have done it differently.
00:04:01.600 In fact, I am 100% certain, not 99 and a half like Ivory Soap, 100% certain today, if this happened, he would never have done what he did.
00:04:14.900 Certainly not over a million dollars in legal fees.
00:04:18.600 Certainly not listening to the enablers that were around him over somebody who he spoke to and who he trusted every single day for more than a decade.
00:04:31.980 You know, I'm interesting in a way like insanely loyal.
00:04:35.860 And I don't ask for the same, for reciprocal loyalty.
00:04:40.400 I do ask for some.
00:04:42.100 And when I said it, and I'm going to repeat it, I said it before, and I think it's important, I would have taken a bullet for him.
00:04:48.600 Someone pulled out a gun, I would have jumped in front of it.
00:04:52.120 The only time I would not, if he's the one that was pulling the trigger.
00:04:55.260 And what I realized is that in this case, when it related to me, he was the one pulling the trigger.
00:05:02.760 He may not have went out and purchased the gun and the ammunition.
00:05:07.900 That was given to him by his enablers.
00:05:10.600 But he was the one pulling the trigger because as president of the United States, he had the power to do what I told him, what I asked him.
00:05:18.180 I pleaded, I begged him, just shut this shit down.
00:05:22.560 Nothing good is going to come out of this.
00:05:24.080 They're going to come after both of us.
00:05:27.120 And we're both going to get hurt from it.
00:05:29.460 And you know what?
00:05:30.840 Sadly, I was correct.
00:05:33.040 Let me ask you, let's role play.
00:05:35.080 But let me go one step further.
00:05:36.480 Can I go one step back even further?
00:05:38.040 I wouldn't change anything.
00:05:39.320 Okay, but let's play something else out.
00:05:41.860 Okay?
00:05:42.580 Let's play it out, you don't do what you did.
00:05:45.520 Where are you at today, in 26?
00:05:47.620 Broke, on the street, no wife, children hating me.
00:05:51.340 That's where I was.
00:05:55.000 You see, people have me all wrong.
00:05:57.480 I heard all this crap, you know, Trump made you.
00:06:02.380 Shitheads, I retired at the age of 39.
00:06:05.860 All right?
00:06:06.100 I didn't need to work for Donald Trump.
00:06:07.980 I wanted.
00:06:09.120 When he offered me that job, which came out of the blue, I didn't put in an application.
00:06:14.000 I was in the office.
00:06:14.780 He asked me to help him with a matter, a matter that dealt with the casinos.
00:06:19.600 And, of course, I had done several of the legal matters for him as well prior to that.
00:06:23.720 And he was like, you happy at that sleepy old firm that you're at?
00:06:27.560 It was at one of the oldest law firms in America.
00:06:30.600 Phillips and I, I was a partner at the firm.
00:06:32.900 He's like, yeah, I don't really work too hard.
00:06:34.540 I'm doing just fine.
00:06:35.700 Having a great time, great life.
00:06:38.100 He said, why don't you come work for me?
00:06:39.240 I'll give you Ivanka's office.
00:06:40.440 They just built on the 25th floor.
00:06:42.280 You'd be right next to me.
00:06:43.400 You'd be my personal attorney, my special counsel.
00:06:47.160 And I was like, huh, a guy who I admired tremendously is offering me a job.
00:06:54.820 I didn't expect it.
00:06:55.640 Actually, I expected to get paid for the work that I did on Trump that time.
00:06:58.700 I was waiting for a check.
00:07:00.020 And when I asked him for the check, humorously, he turned around and he goes, you want to get fired on the first day?
00:07:05.260 I was like, okay.
00:07:07.140 And I accepted the job.
00:07:08.540 And I don't look back.
00:07:09.580 Nor do I look back with the NDAs and so on.
00:07:13.580 I don't look back at any of that.
00:07:15.620 Yeah.
00:07:15.920 There's a difference between when you're saying shitheads, you know, you think I wasn't making money before.
00:07:21.780 There's a difference between being a lawyer for an oldest, you know, oldest law firm and you're making good money.
00:07:26.640 You've got a good life.
00:07:27.320 To all of a sudden you're with the guy in New York City.
00:07:31.640 No, no, you're going to see my point.
00:07:32.740 I retired.
00:07:33.760 I know you did.
00:07:34.360 So this is not a money thing.
00:07:35.380 But there's a difference between, there's a lot of billionaires nobody knows.
00:07:38.580 I wasn't a billionaire.
00:07:39.800 I was more than comfortable enough.
00:07:41.560 I didn't need to work anymore.
00:07:41.760 I know the story of owning 30 or 40 medallions.
00:07:43.820 No, 285 yellow cabs in New York City.
00:07:47.240 Cabs or medallions?
00:07:48.600 Medallions I owned some, right?
00:07:50.520 The 40.
00:07:51.700 Right.
00:07:52.020 And then I had some in Chicago as well.
00:07:53.240 Some of these medallions at the peak was a million bucks.
00:07:55.280 1.4.
00:07:56.260 Right.
00:07:56.740 I had about $60 million just in medallions in New York alone.
00:08:00.480 And then you had 280 cabs?
00:08:01.840 And we had 285 yellow cabs in New York City.
00:08:03.900 And that's through the wife and the family or this is you?
00:08:06.480 No, no, that was me.
00:08:07.380 I was a lawyer that was working.
00:08:09.180 My father-in-law had a couple of medallions.
00:08:12.500 I ended up buying them from him right after 9-11.
00:08:15.240 And then you took it to a different level.
00:08:16.460 No, I was already in the industry.
00:08:18.420 I started in the taxi industry December of 1995.
00:08:22.140 I bought out a client when I was practicing negligence tort and medical malpractice.
00:08:28.100 I bought out a client that was leaving the country.
00:08:30.860 I then merged his with another client and we built it together, me and my ex-partner, to 285 yellow cabs.
00:08:40.940 Bought buildings together, properties together.
00:08:44.100 In fact, bought properties in Trump World Tower.
00:08:48.000 We bought a whole slew of apartments.
00:08:49.560 I bought one, my parents bought one, my in-laws bought a few, my partner bought, some friends bought.
00:08:54.100 I put together a whole block.
00:08:56.820 With the intention of what?
00:08:58.360 With the intention of trying to get clothes or just grow your business?
00:09:01.680 No, that was the year 2000.
00:09:03.640 Right.
00:09:03.840 It wasn't about to go close.
00:09:05.000 I valued the Trump brand for what it was.
00:09:09.840 And I was getting a very good deal, price per square foot, and it was an investment.
00:09:14.280 That's it.
00:09:14.880 And I rented the apartment.
00:09:15.780 I didn't live there.
00:09:16.600 I rented it.
00:09:17.840 Two others.
00:09:18.960 Excuse me?
00:09:19.540 Two others.
00:09:20.160 You rented two others.
00:09:20.800 Generally, I rented them to ambassadors and to consulates.
00:09:23.780 So, 06.
00:09:24.220 Because it's right across the street from the United Nations.
00:09:26.680 06, when you guys got close, how did it happen?
00:09:29.320 So, what happened is he had had a battle, a dispute with the board at that building.
00:09:35.700 And Don Jr. had said, hey, there's a guy who I know, Michael.
00:09:39.600 He has an apartment in that building, but his parents, his in-laws, his friends, there's a whole group of them.
00:09:47.320 You should really speak to him.
00:09:48.740 He's kind of sharp-elbowed, right?
00:09:51.540 He may be the right guy for you to talk to about this.
00:09:54.160 So, Jr. is telling this to pops?
00:09:55.460 Correct.
00:09:55.900 Okay.
00:09:56.560 And I met Jr. because I had just bought apartments in a different building that I had combined together for my primary residence.
00:10:07.060 And that's where Don Jr., he was doing the construction.
00:10:09.920 Got it.
00:10:10.280 Okay, so today, Michael, so you're saying I would have done it the same way all over again if I wouldn't have, if I would have stayed the same, I would have been broke today, not married, family, all this stuff that you're talking about, that the situation wouldn't be good for you today.
00:10:23.340 You believe that?
00:10:24.120 I do.
00:10:24.600 Okay.
00:10:25.780 Fair.
00:10:26.280 Hey, Michael Cohen here.
00:10:27.440 Look, you all know who I am, Donald Trump's former personal attorney and fixer.
00:10:31.540 A lot of things have taken place over the years.
00:10:33.680 A lot of questions need to be answered.
00:10:36.100 Well, you may have a lot of questions.
00:10:37.840 So do me a favor, anytime you want to ask me a question, feel free to reach out to me on the next.
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