Valuetainment - May 21, 2026


＂Trump's Still The Boss＂ - Massie CRUSHED In Primary As Trump Goes 37-0


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Rob and Sarah break down the outcome of the biggest primary race in U.S. history and why they think Donald Trump is still the most powerful man in American politics. They also discuss the impact of a Trump endorsement and why it matters more than ever.

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00:00:30.000 Yesterday, the biggest primary race ever, $32 million to $34 million put into the Thomas Massey race against Gal Reign,
00:00:39.160 which he was projected to, I mean, Massey had a massive lead.
00:00:43.500 And then all of a sudden it kept getting smaller and smaller and smaller.
00:00:46.360 More money was being put into it.
00:00:48.160 And next thing you know, news comes out.
00:00:51.760 It's even, thank you.
00:00:52.680 Then it went to, well, he's got a lead.
00:00:54.180 Then he went to, well, no, he lost.
00:00:56.360 And then, you know, so the Trump, the biggest tweet yesterday that the president put, because everybody said, well, because the economy, because of affordability, because of Iran, because of the war, because of interest rates, because of all this stuff, there is no way a Trump endorsement has the same weight anymore.
00:01:11.160 And guess what he tweeted?
00:01:12.540 This is it.
00:01:13.960 6.25 a.m.
00:01:16.020 37 and 0.
00:01:17.500 Anybody he endorsed, 1.
00:01:20.560 Pennsylvania, 10 and 0.
00:01:21.880 Alabama, 6 and 0.
00:01:23.000 Kentucky, 6 and 0.
00:01:24.060 Oregon, 1 and 0.
00:01:25.680 Idaho, 5-0.
00:01:26.840 Georgia, 9-0.
00:01:28.500 And there's a lot of people that are not happy about this.
00:01:31.880 There's a lot of people that are hoping his endorsement no longer carries weight,
00:01:35.120 but it does.
00:01:35.520 So Massey yesterday, he lost to the Navy SEAL, Galrein.
00:01:41.700 And here's what Massey had to say in his speech last night.
00:01:43.840 I want to get your thoughts on why do you think this happened.
00:01:45.960 Go ahead, Rob.
00:01:47.060 I would have come out sooner, but I had to call my opponent and concede,
00:01:51.880 and it took a while to find Ed Galrein in Tel Aviv.
00:01:55.020 I did get the call. I have called and conceded the race. We've been honorable the whole time
00:02:10.440 and we're going to stay that way. Okay, and he kept goodness. Tom, why do you think Massey lost
00:02:15.440 last night? Massey lost for one reason. The power of influence in the political races out there on 0.98
00:02:22.940 the Republican side still rests with Donald Trump. You've got your issues. You've got places out
00:02:28.040 there. But Trump went out and said, that's not my guy anymore. That's my guy. And you have these
00:02:33.880 folks up there that are trying to play the money game, do the spending game. And here he had this
00:02:39.040 incredible spend. But the guy who still is carrying the influence with the American voter on the
00:02:45.340 Republican side is Donald J. Trump. And he went sideways on Trump. And Trump got behind the
00:02:51.920 opponent and by the way you know you could sit there and and and ask yourself not just us but
00:03:00.180 let's go to a starbucks in the middle of the district and ask people what do you really know
00:03:04.900 about gallerine and people were like well there's a lot of money floating around but they didn't
00:03:09.800 know he's a farmer was a navy seal they know and then you say okay that's good you at least you
00:03:14.120 know his name you know he's farming navy seal but nobody really knew him but when trump comes out
00:03:18.580 and says i'm not with this guy i'm i'm tired of it i'm over here guess what that just showed
00:03:25.060 everybody where the weight was i think it's that simple by the way what is this uh trump
00:03:29.800 talking about massey go for it rob
00:03:31.260 you can pause it right there okay look why do you think
00:03:48.580 I, you know, what I will put the context with this as I don't, A, it's not my ballot.
00:03:58.480 B, there's a lot of money in our elections, but I think it has a lot to do with money.
00:04:05.120 I think it has a lot to do with money.
00:04:07.680 It's America.
00:04:08.360 Do you think it's money or do you think it's endorsement?
00:04:10.380 Because Jeb Bush had $140 million and Trump beat him on day one.
00:04:14.420 So we can say money.
00:04:16.000 Trump didn't have anything to do on day one with money.
00:04:17.980 Nobody in 2015 when he ran.
00:04:19.840 And then there was another guy.
00:04:21.020 If you remember Scott Walker, do you remember the name Scott Walker?
00:04:23.420 He disappeared.
00:04:24.080 He was supposed to be our president.
00:04:25.360 I don't know if you remember that or not.
00:04:27.020 Scott Walker was like the guy.
00:04:28.620 You know, Hillary Clinton had all the money.
00:04:31.160 You know, Kamala Harris had all the money.
00:04:33.740 So is it really all the money?
00:04:35.240 Because money doesn't seem to help Hillary, didn't help Kamala, didn't help Scott Walker, didn't help Jeb Bush.
00:04:43.480 But how is it that in this case you think it's just money?
00:04:45.780 Well, I would – I mean I would say it's – I mean clearly his – I'm not saying his – Trump's endorsement clearly still means a lot. 0.85
00:04:55.200 You can't argue that with the races.
00:04:58.200 You know, you look at – what was it?
00:05:00.120 He won by – it was I think a total of 90,000 votes, was it?
00:05:04.100 He won by 7,000 votes, something like that.
00:05:07.480 You know, 32 million bucks to swing 7,000 votes, it's a lot.
00:05:10.960 I mean the fact is it's the single biggest spend in a congressional election.
00:05:15.080 That is a lot of money.
00:05:17.500 And I think, you know, if centralization works everywhere else,
00:05:21.040 if spending a lot of money works everywhere else,
00:05:23.680 I don't think you can discount it.
00:05:24.840 But the reality of it is, why doesn't he get more money?
00:05:27.500 He can get more money.
00:05:28.920 Who's that? 1.00
00:05:29.800 Massey.
00:05:30.600 He's got a lot of billionaire friends that are on the side.
00:05:32.460 I even think he had a guy named Jeff Yass,
00:05:35.800 who is a $65 billion net worth guy,
00:05:39.400 who is part of a lot of pro-Israel programs.
00:05:45.080 He gave Massey a million dollars.
00:05:47.060 He got some money.
00:05:48.020 It's not like he couldn't get more money.
00:05:49.780 Why doesn't he get more money?
00:05:51.400 Good question.
00:05:52.300 I don't know.
00:05:53.120 I think it has to do with the age composition of the voters. 0.93
00:05:59.320 That's actually a very good point.
00:06:00.540 If you want to pull that up, Rob, because the audience needs to see this.
00:06:03.580 The older boomers voted for him,
00:06:05.500 and the only age category that Galrain won was the older category.
00:06:09.420 I'll pull this up while you're talking.
00:06:10.300 Precisely.
00:06:10.560 Go for it. 0.96
00:06:11.140 It is only the older voters.
00:06:13.120 now who are they and why does it make a difference I mean obviously you could do
00:06:17.320 further analysis on their political sort of leanings and so on but I think the
00:06:21.360 single most important correlating factor is their attention to particular media
00:06:27.220 namely the mainstream media so the oldest age group is the one that is most
00:06:31.180 influenced by mainstream media and that I think was a big factor and I think it
00:06:40.620 was also you know about foreign policy while the the younger groups were unhappy with trump's
00:06:47.640 endorsement and and were actually not going for trump's endorsed uh candidate um and were going
00:06:53.160 for for massey um because of uh his stance of not taking money from you know foreign um influence
00:07:00.960 groups and so on um and uh they they liked it but um that's basically spread in in social media and
00:07:08.500 the more recent the new media so i think that's that's the link it's it's the media um and the
00:07:15.540 link to the age group and and as luke was saying you know it's actually the gap wasn't that huge
00:07:20.600 so over time what is going to happen is clear and you know so um next time round um it could
00:07:28.240 uh just by by the age dynamics could look very different as the younger groups of course that
00:07:33.840 today younger uh move forward um and become more dominant yeah but also also the other part is
00:07:41.000 when i was younger i was probably also a socialist i was probably also rich people are bad because
00:07:47.520 my mother my mother probably not i was never a socialist but my mother was a communist
00:07:53.220 so for me we probably didn't like rich people and so you know the saying you know when you're
00:07:59.020 younger and you don't vote democrat you know you don't have a heart when you're older and you
00:08:03.740 vote Democrat you don't have a brain right you know kind of you've heard that saying before
00:08:07.280 so the question becomes when you look at this 65 and up he won the 45 to 64 Massey won and then 0.98
00:08:16.080 the 30 to 34 Massey won 18 to 29 Massey won thank you Massey won when you look at something like
00:08:21.300 this but it goes to the following because Massey was a fan favorite by a lot of people and then to
00:08:27.960 me, I think something happened. And here's what I think happened with Massey. Massey was a fan
00:08:33.600 favorite. Massey was a guy that maybe, you know, three, four, five years ago, you're like, this
00:08:38.300 guy's special. COVID, the stuff that he was doing, the positions that he was taking, you're like,
00:08:41.980 okay, we like this guy. And then all of a sudden, something got in his ear, somebody, I have a
00:08:49.280 speculation on who I think it is, but somebody got in his ear that said, I think you're bigger
00:08:53.780 than Trump. I think you can go
00:08:55.820 against Trump. I think you can beat
00:08:57.820 Trump. Tell you, you know what, you know,
00:08:59.980 the big beautiful bill, voting against it. 0.99
00:09:02.260 Migration, voting against it.
00:09:03.740 Then all of a sudden, he's voting against Trump
00:09:05.500 and he's siding with Democrats. I mean, do you realize
00:09:07.640 who were the people that were most devastated last night?
00:09:09.800 A lot of Democrats.
00:09:12.260 Devastated. A lot of liberals coming
00:09:13.640 out saying, I can't believe this guy lost.
00:09:15.480 And this is where it kind of takes me, and I want
00:09:17.680 to go a little bit deeper into
00:09:19.580 the story with these guys, and I'll ask you guys about it.
00:09:21.620 Tom, I'll come to you, and then Richard, I'll come to you afterwards.
00:09:23.780 is if you think you're bigger than the establishment, then prove it.
00:09:31.780 Because guess what Trump did in 2015?
00:09:34.660 Trump went against the establishment.
00:09:37.020 Trump called out everybody in the establishment.
00:09:40.060 And the establishment was who?
00:09:41.840 The Bushes.
00:09:42.840 He beat them single-handedly.
00:09:45.620 Karl Rove, establishment, he beat them single-handedly.
00:09:49.400 Fox News, they were not for Trump.
00:09:51.160 They beat them single-handedly.
00:09:53.180 Mainstream media.
00:09:54.060 He wasn't against them.
00:09:55.220 He beat the mainstream media single-handedly.
00:09:58.500 Okay?
00:09:59.100 Every other story criticizing him about the Republican,
00:10:02.480 they wanted Jeb Bush, they wanted Ted Cruz,
00:10:04.480 they wanted all these establishment guys.
00:10:06.600 He beat them.
00:10:07.840 Based on what?
00:10:09.380 Based on the policies that he went with, which is what?
00:10:11.580 Border, migration, crime, NATO, China.
00:10:16.360 That's what he went on.
00:10:17.280 Okay?
00:10:18.240 The market said, listen, I like what this guy has to say.
00:10:21.020 Let's give him a shot.
00:10:21.860 He won. 0.95
00:10:23.500 So Massey goes up there.
00:10:25.100 If I were to ask you right now, what was Massey's biggest top three points? 0.94
00:10:28.700 What did Massey run on?
00:10:30.620 If you were Tom, what did Massey run on?
00:10:32.140 What are the top three things Massey run on?
00:10:33.780 Did you follow it closely?
00:10:35.280 I can't say closely, but I think a key point is what you said about, you know, when he voted against these bills.
00:10:42.880 But stay on this for a second.
00:10:43.740 I want you to stay on this. 1.00
00:10:45.040 What did Massey run on?
00:10:47.340 What were Massey – because it's very, very important.
00:10:49.760 They're not taking foreign money.
00:10:51.000 I think that certainly came up.
00:10:51.500 So that's one.
00:10:52.360 What else?
00:10:53.140 Anti-war, right?
00:10:54.180 Okay, so what else?
00:10:56.600 Epstein is one.
00:10:57.480 We have to put Epstein.
00:10:58.200 Yeah, Epstein files.
00:10:58.660 I mean, he did that.
00:10:59.980 He voted against the big, beautiful bill, right?
00:11:02.800 Multiple times he voted against the president on the ideas that he had.
00:11:06.200 But a bigger one was mainly Israel.
00:11:08.660 There's an article that came out, Rob, that said Israel divided the Republican Party.
00:11:12.840 I don't know if you've seen that thing that Israel divided.
00:11:15.160 You know what I think America is saying?
00:11:17.160 I think America is kind of saying, look, guys, of course, everybody,
00:11:21.600 Like Trump said something the other day, everybody spies on everybody when he's meeting with Xi.
00:11:26.600 We spy on China, they spy on us.
00:11:29.060 Everybody is using their intel to steal from everybody. 0.87
00:11:33.020 Everybody at this level is doing it.
00:11:34.260 You don't think Israel is using Epstein to get intel on American politicians and world politicians?
00:11:39.700 You're naive if you don't believe that.
00:11:41.540 I fully believe that.
00:11:42.360 I had a three-hour conversation with his brother.
00:11:44.540 Fully believe they were a part of that.
00:11:46.080 But you don't think we do that?
00:11:47.420 You don't think others do that?
00:11:48.440 So I think America has finally come up and they say, listen, man, if everything was about Israel and if that's an issue that America is fully on, Trump would have lost yesterday, 0 to 39.
00:12:01.460 If America was like, well, Thomas Massey and all these guys that everything they're blaming Israel, Israel, Israel, money coming from the outside, AIPAC, Adelson, which Adelson gave a lot of money.
00:12:10.960 We know who Miriam Adelson.
00:12:11.900 Well, these are the people that are running the president.
00:12:14.500 Guess what America said?
00:12:15.780 Yeah, you guys are famous on Twitter.
00:12:17.520 you guys are big podcasters
00:12:19.360 this is not how America feels
00:12:21.640 39-0 because if you
00:12:23.940 truly have a message
00:12:25.340 that you want to disrupt
00:12:27.960 the establishment the market
00:12:29.840 would have sided with you and they didn't
00:12:32.040 last night it was a devastating
00:12:34.280 loss last night it was a massive
00:12:36.280 victory for the president last night
00:12:37.940 and I know a lot of people are out there saying
00:12:40.060 well you know this you know that you know this
00:12:41.720 because sometimes like
00:12:43.160 I remember DeSantis
00:12:46.280 I'll compare DeSantis to Massey in a very weird way, okay?
00:12:50.300 I live in Florida because I love DeSantis.
00:12:52.220 I think he's a great governor, okay?
00:12:53.780 Phenomenal governor, and you're always welcome to come here from Cleveland.
00:12:56.520 You'll love us here.
00:12:57.900 Hey, he's a phenomenal governor, right?
00:12:59.540 Yeah.
00:12:59.800 Okay.
00:13:01.400 But I was against him when he ran against the president, and he never called him.
00:13:05.360 I was against him.
00:13:06.220 I'm like, hey, the guy helped you, and I was against it.
00:13:08.960 So somebody in Massey's ear and DeSantis' ear said, hey, you can beat him.
00:13:14.580 You can beat him.
00:13:15.800 he's not right.
00:13:18.480 DeSantis believed it.
00:13:19.740 Massey believed it.
00:13:20.660 They both lost.
00:13:21.860 So now what do you do moving forward?
00:13:23.600 Now, DeSantis has recovered from it.
00:13:25.580 I don't know what Massey's going to do because Massey's now saying
00:13:27.540 he's going to be running in 2028.
00:13:29.300 But the market is telling you what direction they're going.
00:13:33.060 The market is telling you what issues matter to us going into 27-28.
00:13:37.600 And they're watching.
00:13:38.520 If you can't win the Congress,
00:13:40.160 how the hell are you going to win presidency in 2028?
00:13:43.360 It's a very different –
00:13:44.120 Yesterday was a very, very big night.
00:13:45.760 Of course, this will lead to midterms and different things that's coming on.
00:13:48.660 But we'll see.
00:13:49.040 I know a lot of people are not happy.
00:13:50.940 I know a lot of people are happy.
00:13:52.600 But it was a weird night last night.
00:13:54.180 I think one issue is what you mentioned, this key example, the big, beautiful bill.
00:13:59.260 So we have this huge piece of legislation with so many different issues put together.
00:14:06.460 And that was used quite cleverly, if I may say, by the advertising against Massey, picking something that a lot of Americans would agree on in the Big Beautiful Bill and saying, oh, Massey voted against that.
00:14:25.080 Well, actually, he found some bad points in the Big Beautiful Bill that a lot of Americans also think is bad.
00:14:31.440 And that's why he thought we can't vote for it.
00:14:33.940 And you see, so the issue is you can actually mess things up and confuse people and confuse voters and really distort politics if you have this.
00:14:45.360 I think we need a reform.
00:14:47.180 I mean, one is looking at the money side of U.S. elections.
00:14:50.740 That's been a longstanding issue in general.
00:14:52.520 But the second one is, and that's perhaps simpler to push through, to have a parcel law that says we need single issue bills.
00:15:01.760 Well, I would say, too, as much as the market and the electoral side clearly delivered a message,
00:15:07.500 in the financial markets yesterday, it's interesting, the bond market delivered a message.
00:15:11.780 U.S. 10-year treasury yields are up 70 basis points since this war started.
00:15:14.700 They're breaking out to a very dangerous level.
00:15:16.340 Japanese bond market, breaking.
00:15:18.520 U.K. bond market, breaking.
00:15:20.060 And so there's, at the same very day, 30-year treasury yesterday, highest in 19 years.
00:15:26.120 and so if we clearly the electoral it's it's almost be careful what you wish for because you
00:15:32.240 just might get it good and hard the american public may get exactly you know 37 and 0 is a
00:15:38.700 pro-war pro-spending agenda i don't think so i don't think so i don't think it's a pro-war pro-spending
00:15:44.980 agenda and i'll tell you why i don't think that is you see that that's the thing the market says
00:15:49.620 because we all have biases right i have it you have it you have it we all have it it's okay
00:15:53.400 That's okay, we'll debate it and we'll hash it out.
00:15:55.820 And then the audience gets to decide at the end and say, 1.00
00:15:57.680 you know what, Luke, you're full of shit. 1.00
00:15:58.720 Pat, you don't know what you're talking about. 1.00
00:16:00.380 Whatever Trump says, you're going to side with him.
00:16:01.960 You know what, Richard, you don't know what you...
00:16:03.280 Okay, that's fair.
00:16:04.380 This is why when you put the camera on, we get that.
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