00:09:20.040no enemy ever wronged me who i have not repaid in full lucius cornelia sulla let me read this
00:09:30.420one more time no friend ever served me and no enemy ever wronged me whom i have not repaid
00:09:38.880in full a ruthless roman dictator in general right that's who he was back in the days
00:09:44.320uncompromising an element of trump is he's an uncompromising guy that is going to remember
00:09:51.020these moments so what does this mean if you're an ally we have your back yeah if you're an enemy
00:09:56.420we will never forget and we know trump's never going to forget i think this is a dumb move
00:10:01.480because a part of this that they can use as leverage is the following way here's how i would
00:10:06.200do it let you say you're part of these nato uh countries what if you come out and say mr president
00:10:12.960we are absolutely with you we all have your back with one reasoning what's that we want to make one
00:10:21.020ask you cannot raise tariffs above 10 the next 24 months go back to these following levels if you
00:10:28.700do this because this is going to be a cost to us if you're willing to do this we're all in what
00:10:33.440would you like to do this is an opportunity for them to negotiate yeah i don't know if you
00:10:37.840understand like a deal maker yeah guess what instead of just being like i'm out listen maybe
00:10:43.580the president's like wanting to make a deal with you right now propose something what if we do this
00:10:47.900and by the way how do you know that's not been talked about if it's been talked about maybe
00:10:52.780somebody could leak it to the market and say hey you know what if what if in this moment where
00:10:58.580you're coming to us for help great give us a two-year commitment the real number you want to
00:11:05.100negotiate for not raising tariffs is what how many years it's not two years it's three years
00:11:09.340exactly why do you want three years because he's out in three years yeah and you're hoping the guy
00:11:13.240that comes after him so i don't know i think a part of this is trump's not gonna forget yes and
00:11:18.440in two years when you guys desperately need him he will not forget how you handle this and he's
00:11:23.960gonna delay the support for you then what's gonna happen you don't think you're gonna need the help
00:11:28.960on the other way around who do you think needs who's help more often you know what it's like
00:11:32.720it's like when a guy comes to you for help 19 times you go to help for one time but the one
00:11:38.760time you go to help for him he holds it over your head and you're like i'm sorry what did you just
00:11:43.500do right i helped you 19 times and the one time i need you you are you're using this as a wow okay
00:11:52.660no problem let me get back to it no friend ever served me and no ever no enemy ever wronged me
00:12:00.120whom i have not repaid in full you're going to get paid in that's what i think is what's really
00:12:04.860bad about this is what i think the calculation from the europeans is that they're betting that
00:12:10.780gasoline prices and diesel prices which i'm we're going to talk about they're betting that gasoline
00:12:15.480prices and diesel prices inflict enough pain on the american voter right that they get trump to
00:12:20.940relent to call a quick you know call a victory then just you know go back to the way it was
00:12:25.500And I think that's a political calculation in both directions, first of all, from their own perspective, but also from the Trump perspective.
00:12:34.420I agree with that 100 percent. I'm sorry to cut you off right there.
00:12:37.420There are two types of leadership. There is clear vision leadership.
00:12:40.700And then you go all the way downhill from that to pure political leadership.
00:12:45.020Pat, the Europeans have always been political leadership, political leadership, conversations, muddy visions.
00:12:51.700We'll consider it. We'll think it over. Whereas clear vision leadership is Mr. Gorbachev. Take down this wall. It's very clear, very defined. The Europeans think they have allies right now. They think the midterm election in the United States is an ally. They think the Democrats in the United States is an ally. They think an upset consumer is an ally. They don't have to have clear leadership.
00:13:13.160pat they're waiting for everything else to pinch trump they would rather than go out and stating
00:13:18.480what they want the future world to be where they want to go what they want to do how they want to
00:13:22.780get there how they want to provide for their people in the future rather than that they'd
00:13:26.240rather let other things happen you know it's it's it's astonishing to me to see this but you know
00:13:32.240what it is it's un leadership because they are still globalist they are still un leadership
00:13:37.800and i'm not surprised i'm really not surprised tom do you think they're underestimating trump
00:13:43.140here because i mean we've talked about this many times i take all kinds of people say he won't say
00:13:47.500anything negative about trump but i'll tell you they are underestimating a true leader when you
00:13:52.080come up against a true leader like this you were underestimating him it's not only the it's not
00:13:56.820not only the legend of lucius sulla which is correct it's also dealing with someone who is
00:14:03.960a deal maker and is going to come back and go wait a minute you did wait a minute you did what
00:14:07.800and he's got levers to pull you don't think starmer is going to need it look at what's
00:14:12.780starting to happen right now in the uk he's got his own issues in his backyard as the he's the
00:14:17.960most unpopular prime minister in uk history in uk history and the people are starting to erupt
00:14:24.220about the rape gangs and about things that are going on and he's up there we're interested in
00:14:29.540the people he was about to resign anyways guys i mean at any point he was about to resign so
00:14:33.580i think at any point in the next few months we could be like it's the end of it rob ran a poll
00:14:38.000here uh should nato support the u.s and helping keeping the strait of hormuz it's an 80 20 issue
00:14:43.860okay even with our audience our audience is a reasonable audience that uh watches and gets
00:14:49.800gets involved so 80 saying yes 20 is saying no to the 20 saying no can you put in the comment
00:14:55.060section why not and can all of you guys debate it out the reasonable players can you guys debate it
00:14:59.960out i do want to talk to you guys about something a lot of you guys dm me and message me and say hey
00:15:05.220hey, you know, how do I become a member of the cigar lounge,