Valuetainment - May 28, 2026


"Tulsi's SILENT War" - Was Gabbard PUSHED OUT As DNI?


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Tulsi Gabbard resigns as Director of National Intelligence. Her husband is battling a rare form of bone cancer and she wants to spend more time with him. Her replacement, Aaron Lucas, will serve as the acting director of national intelligence.

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00:00:30.000 Tulsi Gabbard resigns as director of national intelligence.
00:00:36.680 A lot of people were, you know, creating rumors that this may be coming up,
00:00:41.900 whether she could be the next one.
00:00:43.680 Because who was it?
00:00:44.660 It was Pam Bondi.
00:00:45.800 And then who else was it?
00:00:46.620 Kristi Noem.
00:00:47.900 And so now Cash was on the list.
00:00:50.100 Cash was on that list.
00:00:51.300 But this is official now.
00:00:52.720 Pam Bondi, then Kristi Noem.
00:00:55.100 And that's Tulsi Gabbard.
00:00:56.180 Rob, this is it.
00:00:57.020 Unfortunately, after having done a great job,
00:00:59.580 Tulsi Gabbard will be leaving the administration on June 30th.
00:01:01.920 Her wonderful husband, Abraham, has recently diagnosed with a rare form of bone cancer,
00:01:05.280 and she rightfully wants to be with him, bringing him back to good health
00:01:08.760 as they currently fight a tough battle together.
00:01:12.120 I have no doubt he will soon be better than ever.
00:01:14.360 Tulsi has done an incredible job, and we will miss her.
00:01:17.520 Her highly respected principal deputy director of national intelligence, Aaron Lucas,
00:01:21.600 will serve as the acting director of national intelligence, President Donald J. Trump.
00:01:25.680 Vinny, what are your thoughts on this story?
00:01:27.900 Again, going back to the people that were just like automatically, Pat,
00:01:31.340 everybody thinks that they know everything.
00:01:33.720 It's like, oh, my God, this is the piece.
00:01:35.520 It's like her husband and our prayers go to this guy and their families
00:01:40.100 has freaking bone cancer as if what?
00:01:43.080 Is it a made-up story? 0.92
00:01:44.580 Is it a made-up story?
00:01:45.900 This is an actual thing that's happening.
00:01:47.860 We know Tulsi.
00:01:48.920 We're going to pray for her.
00:01:50.060 We're going to pray for her husband and hope that it gets,
00:01:52.140 and they get through it, God willing.
00:01:53.800 Okay, but the fact that everybody automatically,
00:01:55.600 or everybody who was it Laura Loomer everybody like good riddance and good it's like shame on
00:02:00.880 anybody that was out there talking crap about her or her job or what she's doing my dude this is a 0.53
00:02:06.180 girl that what left her party to come to to help the president and I don't know if anybody else 0.90
00:02:11.760 is complaining about how safe and national intelligence I feel pretty damn safe with her
00:02:16.100 at the helm and she's stepping down all I can say Pat is she did a great job God bless her and I hope
00:02:20.360 the future for her and for her husband is good adam i'll just say this as someone that my
00:02:26.360 significant other my ex-girlfriend did have to go through cancer and i know what it's like and
00:02:30.740 this is her husband so i'll just say this that some things are bigger than politics some things
00:02:35.800 are bigger than business some things are bigger than anything in life and i'm just going to take
00:02:39.900 it at face value here that she legitimately stepped down because her husband abraham is
00:02:45.360 fighting a severe form of, extremely rare form of bone cancer. So some things are just what they
00:02:51.700 are. I'm sure there's going to be ridiculous storylines out there from the left and the right
00:02:56.300 questioning what her loyalty is and what her agenda is. For me, until I hear anything substantive
00:03:02.560 and different, I'm just going to say respect to you, Tulsi. Thank you for your service to this
00:03:07.960 country. I hope you and your husband get through this. I hope he gets through this. And as someone
00:03:12.580 that knows Tulsi like we've met Tulsi
00:03:14.680 over the years, praying for you. And my father
00:03:16.660 Pat, just really, really quick because you hit on it
00:03:18.740 my father, his cancer
00:03:20.600 went from lung to bone
00:03:23.000 to brain and I'm
00:03:24.620 telling people, if my mom
00:03:26.560 was out, and how hard do you think the
00:03:28.320 DNI is? She's out
00:03:30.340 she's never home, she's always out there
00:03:32.440 she's always at work, you have to be there
00:03:34.540 for the person, okay, because I'm pretty sure he's going to be
00:03:36.540 going through chemo and stuff. Do you think this is
00:03:38.540 the main reason why she stepped down? I think
00:03:40.580 right now, Pat, I think so. You think Tom
00:03:42.320 Do you think this is the main reason why she stepped down?
00:03:44.380 I have a hard time believing that.
00:03:45.540 Don't get me wrong.
00:03:46.720 I think Tulsi played a very important role in 2024 when she joined the team.
00:03:51.740 I think Tulsi played a very important role, her and RFK,
00:03:54.620 very, very important role while they were campaigning.
00:03:57.140 Do I think this is really happening?
00:03:58.660 Of course, 100%.
00:04:00.080 Do I think this is the number one reason why they're stepping down?
00:04:04.240 I don't think so.
00:04:05.180 I think there's more to it.
00:04:06.800 And I hate to be the guy that's going to go take that position,
00:04:10.600 but I think it's more than that.
00:04:12.160 Tom, what do you think?
00:04:13.220 So there were very credible news reports coming out over the last two weeks that the CIA had pulled back documentation,
00:04:19.260 the hard copy files that DNI had pulled in, and Tulsi wanted to declassify documents.
00:04:25.720 Remember, that was one of the discussion points and one of the promises, associated promises, that was made to the American people,
00:04:32.100 that we're going to be declassifying documents, we're going to be putting truth out there.
00:04:35.240 And supposedly, Tulsi Gabbard and DNI were in the process of declassifying, two weeks ago I think it was,
00:04:42.160 you know, about that.
00:04:45.820 Now, then they came out and said, no, no, our office wasn't raided.
00:04:49.060 Well, wait, where did the story come from?
00:04:50.800 There were credible news media out there that said the CIA pulled back documents.
00:04:56.380 Then even Tulsi said, easy, easy.
00:04:58.840 It's really not not all that.
00:05:00.300 But there was there was too much around this and too many people quoted and too many folks that were on top of this,
00:05:07.260 like Anna Paulina Luna that were saying, wait a minute, we can't be doing this.
00:05:12.660 So that didn't come out definitive, but there was too much talking about it.
00:05:17.160 It sounded like something really was there.
00:05:18.740 If that's what was going on, that would mean that somebody is out there trying to frustrate
00:05:23.040 her ability to do her job.
00:05:25.840 And if she was facing a silent war inside the, let's call the CIA what it is, establishment,
00:05:33.460 and she's out there trying to do her job, I could totally see that weighing on her.
00:05:39.260 Then your husband gets cancer.
00:05:40.980 God bless you.
00:05:41.700 I hope it's workable.
00:05:43.520 I hope the Lord gives you great peace and strength during this time, Tulsi.
00:05:48.940 I hope so.
00:05:49.540 We know you.
00:05:50.500 But if that was on there at the same time, I could see it coming together where she says,
00:05:54.440 I'm going to tap out.
00:05:56.120 I'll just address sort of the opinion that you kind of shared, which is, all right, I said, listen, I'm taking this on face value that she went with her husband.
00:06:07.880 At the same time, there is a chance that she's stepping away to, as they say, spend more time with the family, which was sort of planned.
00:06:16.540 She might have been on her way out anyway, allegedly, and then this might have just been the icing on the cake, so to speak.
00:06:23.180 so it's almost like what came first the chicken or the egg but i do understand exactly what you're
00:06:27.800 saying is like she was also skating on thin ice some may say with the president yeah here's what
00:06:33.300 i'll here's what i'll say the most important thing almost like the iran deal not even terms of deal
00:06:37.940 what will iran actually do when the deal is done the question is when he's god help him uh healed
00:06:45.740 what will she do next will she go the the stay aligned with trump loyalist route or will she go
00:06:52.560 the burn it all to the ground Joe Kent Thomas Massey route that to me is the question yeah so
00:06:58.480 so this this is I don't think that's the number one reason I think it's either you know because
00:07:05.360 DNI you have to realize DNI is above CIA yeah DNI is above CIA I think it heads DNI over like
00:07:13.200 18 different agencies so it's not like the the you think CIA likes being under DNI
00:07:19.320 No, they want to go by themselves.
00:07:20.820 Hell no.
00:07:21.600 Control, right? 0.92
00:07:22.300 Hell no. 0.98
00:07:23.600 Establishment, Virginia, farm boys?
00:07:25.500 How do you think CIA looks at DNI?
00:07:28.220 How do you think CIA looks at DNI?
00:07:29.400 Who are you to tell us?
00:07:30.280 Who do you think you are?
00:07:31.080 What are you talking about?
00:07:32.160 Who put these guys over us?
00:07:33.840 We've been doing this since we killed Kennedy.
00:07:35.780 Yeah, so I don't know if they like giving up that much power to somebody that comes in.
00:07:43.900 And maybe she was trying to do what she was.
00:07:45.760 I'll speculate a little bit.
00:07:47.020 Let's just kind of speculate because you're like, oh, my God, yeah, this is what I think.
00:07:50.260 No, let's speculate.
00:07:52.020 One is face value. 1.00
00:07:53.700 The reason why she stepped down is husband challenges, cancer. 1.00
00:07:58.000 Great.
00:07:59.060 I understand it.
00:08:00.040 Tough, terrible situation.
00:08:02.900 And we've been around business for a long time where things happen and people have to step away and go through things.
00:08:07.600 But, you know, so that's that.
00:08:09.340 Number two is she felt like she couldn't get the job done.
00:08:12.620 Okay, so that's number two. 1.00
00:08:13.680 and she was kind of her arms her hands were you know tied behind her back and she couldn't do
00:08:18.720 anything number three is that that whole issue that happened with joe kent stepping down and
00:08:25.820 there was a story of joe kent going and meeting with tulsi and also jd i don't know if you remember
00:08:31.720 when that story was released there was a story about the fact that the three of them had a
00:08:35.780 meeting together before his tweet and his resignation and they held a file for several
00:08:40.420 months in the safe in her office yeah so that you know that is automatically get you to you think
00:08:47.340 the president's automatically going to trust you I don't know if he's going to trust with that
00:08:51.520 taking place so he gave you the job and then that's what happens and then joking comes talks
00:08:56.420 to you and then when Tulsi was asked multiple times during the hearing if you remember the
00:09:01.060 answer she gave I don't know if you remember the answer she gave she said the president do you agree
00:09:05.800 with the president's decision and and then she said the president made the decision based on
00:09:11.960 the intel that we shared with them it's not the answer it was do you agree with the president's
00:09:17.260 decision do you stand with this i do director do you agree with the president make the makes
00:09:22.460 the decision why do you guys even have jobs right so it was there was something that happened to
00:09:27.840 you rob can you play is it that clip i don't know it could have been that clip play the clip
00:09:31.940 Only the president, the only person who can determine what is an imminent threat is the president of the United States.
00:09:43.180 Do you stand by that statement?
00:09:45.460 Yes, I do.
00:09:47.560 Director Ratcliffe, do you agree with that assessment?
00:09:51.420 That the president is the only person that can determine if something is an imminent threat or not?
00:09:55.500 I don't know if this is it.
00:09:56.420 There's a moment where she says he made the decision based on the information we shared with him.
00:10:03.640 And then they asked, but do you agree with the president?
00:10:06.260 And it was kind of like, that's not the point.
00:10:07.880 The point is we gave him the information.
00:10:10.860 So it wasn't an affirmative decision to defend.
00:10:13.960 Now, you know, in her defense, Caroline Levitt stood in front of her.
00:10:19.900 And if you remember that, Caroline Levitt defended her.
00:10:23.180 Do you guys remember that day when Caroline Levitt defended her?
00:10:26.440 Caroline Leavitt stood in the front and said, you know what?
00:10:29.000 She is doing a great job, and, you know, she's doing this, and it's the media,
00:10:32.460 and, you know, all this other stuff, and she kind of, not this one.
00:10:34.860 There's one where, if you just tap in Caroline Leavitt and Tulsi,
00:10:38.440 and Caroline Leavitt and Tulsi, you will see there was a moment where
00:10:42.520 she's standing in front of Tulsi and defending her.
00:10:45.940 So, I don't know.
00:10:47.380 I don't know if there is a, Trump's got two more years left, let's face it, right?
00:10:51.300 A little over two more years, two and a half more years left to get things done.
00:10:55.000 But if all of a sudden you feel like you're working with somebody who doesn't side with you and doesn't agree with you, and maybe you can't trust 100 percent, maybe he has to make a move.
00:11:04.420 You never know.
00:11:04.940 And Trump doesn't have a problem firing people.
00:11:06.620 He move on in a heartbeat and go get somebody else and see who needs to be there.
00:11:10.580 So I don't know.
00:11:11.480 I don't know where there is, but I have a hard time with this one just thinking it's dropping for that.
00:11:17.760 Or you quit before you're going to get fired.
00:11:19.780 You know some people when they get a feeling they're about to get fired, and they typically quit before just to save face?
00:11:24.360 because Kristi Noem didn't. 0.95
00:11:26.040 Kristi Noem got fired.
00:11:27.140 Pam Bondi, I believe, got fired, right?
00:11:29.720 Did Pam Bondi get fired?
00:11:30.880 Yeah, she rode in the president's car with him,
00:11:33.260 and he said, Pam, it's time.
00:11:35.160 And then you have Tulsi that is going through this.
00:11:38.440 So I think there's more to this story than we think.
00:11:40.720 Just keep in mind, somebody's going to come in
00:11:42.680 and be the next man up,
00:11:44.040 and apparently it's just going to be the deputy director,
00:11:46.300 Aaron Lucas, so prepared to get familiar with his name
00:11:49.200 a little bit more further.
00:11:50.360 And not Aaron Lucas.
00:11:51.440 No, no, no.
00:11:52.180 Is he ball?
00:11:52.520 L-U-K-A-M.
00:11:53.340 He has a ball.
00:11:54.200 right there l-u-k-a-s aaron lucas he's going to be the new fyi director just so you know
00:12:00.040 she is on that list of people that a lot of people think in 2028 she may run and team up with jd so
00:12:08.700 jd tulsi jd president uh tulsi vp so don't the non-intervention side yeah on the non-intervention
00:12:16.980 side and there there's a there's a community that's building up for that i think her you know
00:12:21.100 We said the future looks bright.
00:12:22.560 I think her political future is certainly bright.
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00:12:26.240 We'll just see how aligned she is with Trump or not.
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00:12:31.240 Yeah, and she's definitely a player,
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