Uday Hussein’s Body Double Opens Up
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Summary
On this episode of Valuetainment, my guest today is Latif Yahya, who is living his own life right now, doing his thing, but prior to this, he lived a very interesting life. He was the head of intelligence for Saddam Hussein's political party, the Ba'at Party, and was a member of the elite elite unit tasked with protecting the former president, Saddam Hussein.
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Within the next 15 seconds, you're probably going to say this is one of the most unique interviews we've ever had on Valuetainment, and here's why.
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My guest today is Latif Yahya, who is known, he's living his own life right now, doing his thing, but prior to this, he lived a very interesting life.
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One day, he gets a knock on the door by his classmate, who happens to be Saddam Hussein's son, Uday, and he says, I want you to be my double.
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And he says, what do you mean double? He says, I want you to be my double.
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He turns them down at first, and then he's going to tell you what happens next.
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There was a book written about us saying, I was Saddam's son, a movie that I watched the moment it came out in 2011 called The Devil's Double.
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With that being said, my guest today, Latif Yahya.
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Latif, thank you so much for being a guest on Valuetainment.
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So, Latif, I think it's fair to say you've lived an interesting life.
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For me, it was from the minute I joined this team, by force, it wasn't an enjoyable moment or enjoyable job to do.
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Now, before that happened, and let's go back a little bit.
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Let's go back on how you got connected with Saddam Hussein's family.
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We was together in the same school, in high school.
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This was a special school for all the high-educated people, ministers' sons, politicians' sons, and it was close to my home, too.
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And, uh, here we was met first time in, he was in my school, in my class.
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And, uh, I was very worried, as advice from my dad, to don't be nearly of those family or the government or anything.
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My father is very peaceful man, rest in peace now, and, uh, I listened to him, but, uh, the problem was with Oday, at the time.
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And, uh, start, uh, we become, uh, nearly know each other.
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I was painting, I love painting, since I was a child, and when the Saddam Hussein become a president,
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he was the vice president of Iraq, uh, I paint his picture, and, uh, in full size, in the big picture.
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And he, he look at him and say, wow, you know, this is nice, this is that.
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And, uh, he took it off me, and from here it started.
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So, so, so, so you had met Saddam Hussein before, through his son, Oday, or, or was that, uh, was it, no, this is, you met Saddam?
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This is a, this is, was a school competition painting.
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And Oday, he saw, uh, he saw the painting, and he took it.
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So, when you said you were in high school with Oday, what year was that?
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Uh, up till, I finished my university in 1987, four years before that, or four and a half years, yeah.
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So, he was, he was already president, he was already a powerful man, he was already, you know, had a reputation, and, uh, for some that don't know, I mean, this is, before we go into that angle, one of the things I want to know from you is, even prior to him being a president, I'm from Iran, so I have had to study a lot of Saddam Hussein, because, you know,
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I was born in 78, so if I'm born 78, four months before the Shah went in exile, October of 78, you know my lifeline.
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I stayed there till, uh, 1989, so I was there for the whole war between Iran and Iraq, it wasn't the prettiest thing.
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But, who was Saddam Hussein before he became president and vice president, way before that?
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Saddam Hussein, he was, uh, head of, we say, intelligence service.
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At that time, they call it Hanin, what this was, protecting Ba'at party, and because of his background, and he is very clever person, you know, because we can't deny that, but, uh, he be, he been elected by Ba'at party to start, what's called intelligence service,
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and he named it Hanin, Hanin means, something is very hard to explain, but anyway, he become the head of intelligence service of Ba'at party before all this happened.
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And they was assassinate, all these people would not belong to them, or against them, or do stuff against Ba'at party, till he become a vice president.
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So, he was known as someone that, some called him a hit man, some called him a vicious man, some called him a fearless man, but he was, he was feared amongst people way before he got into politics, would you agree with that?
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I agree with that, because this is his story, and he, he, he himself, he was saying that, I start this, and I start that, and, uh, he was saying always, this chair,
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that didn't come easy to me, it was something, uh, we did with our colleagues, with our brothers, to get to this power.
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Okay, so now let's fast forward, you're in high school, you were there, you make, draw this painting, he sees it, he likes it, were you guys best friends, or were you just classmates when he first saw this?
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Classmate, classmate, I can't say it, because I didn't like it, from day one, he arrived to my class, in Pacific, you know, first of all, uh, he was coming with his Porsche, he was a teenager, and he have a Porsche, yellow Porsche, very stupid color, yellow, it's not even normal color,
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and, uh, with painting, I was, uh, this is my hobby, I was playing basketball, and he come and put his car, where it's the basketball place, you know, he don't let anybody play basketball, he don't, he harassed anybody, at the time, we have this, you know, uh,
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we're talking 70s, and beginning 80s, these Afro hair, you know, big hairs, and he have really big, big hair, you know, and, uh, he come on two, three security with him, always just stand up around, when he come to the class, because he was taller of us, he was sitting in the back,
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and two people sit, and two people sit, one here, and one here, and one beside him, write for him, all the teachers, say, he don't do anything, uh, this was his, uh, attention in the class, but I can't deny it, he was very, very clever.
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So, he was also clever like his father, interesting.
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He's very clever, he's very clever, but in a mean, mean way.
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Yeah, and he don't like to see somebody higher of him, or clever more on him, or answer the teacher in a good way, he'd be really upset, because he think he's a bigger person, he's a more powerful, even with that, he have so much jealousy inside him, I don't know, after I, we met, and sit, and I understand why he was suffering from that.
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What was he, did he have a reputation even then in high school, as somebody who was ruthless, or he hadn't developed a reputation yet?
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In the beginning, in the beginning, he was very shy, to be fair, he was very, very shy, but the second year start, all the exaggeration stuff, because, you know,
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as you are from Middle East, and we are neighbor, you know, as a school separate, boys and girls, you know, only in university, but as a boy school, he come in with a girlfriend,
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who was the closest school for a girl beside us, he picked his girlfriend, and come to the school, with his girlfriend, sitting in class, and one of the teachers, he asked him, you know,
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you're not allowed to do that, you know, please take this girl out of here, anyway, we didn't, never saw the teacher anymore, I don't know what's happened to him.
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Also, when the teacher told to take the girl out, you never saw the teacher ever again?
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Yeah, we never saw him, after he left the class, I don't know where he disappeared.
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Got it. So that was one mistake right there, telling him he couldn't have girlfriends there. So, did you, but did you hear stories with him? Like, even when you went to high school, did you see him fighting? Did you see him killing yet?
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Did you see him doing anything yet during high school? Was there any signs yet?
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No. Killing? No. Fight, we can say, in a mean way, yeah, he always pushing people like that, but he always have a gun, small gun, magnum, he always carry with him, in a school, in a high school, you know, you can't have a gun, but he come and he's always put it in his pocket, or he put it in, he have a cover or a gun beside his leg,
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and he sometimes play with it like that, you know. There's a lot of people, especially in the school, was want to be close to him because he's the power, and you know, us Middle East, people like power, people like that.
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At the time, you know, my family's, the rich family, and no one in Baghdad, I have a car, too, in this age.
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But it wasn't a Porsche, you know, we can't say Porsche, or like, there's something, just my dad, he bought it for me, and in this age, you can't have even a car.
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I don't have even a license, but something, you know, this, you know, Middle Eastern business people do the fantasy, okay, my son, he's underage, but he's driving a car, you know.
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Yeah, I did. My first car was a ladder, but at the time, we're talking 70s, ladder was something when it came to Iraq, and especially this ladder was a story.
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In 1979, when the Iraq football won something champion, the president, Ahmad Hassan al-Bakr, he imported from Russia or Soviet Union, because he's made there, ladder, for a footballer, as a present, as a gift.
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And when the first car has been sold, my dad bought it for me on my birthday, and was ladder, you know, wow, you know, somebody have a ladder.
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And the life went, till we finish school, I get a good degree and good numbers.
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My dream was, really, up till now, in this age, my dream to be an engineer.
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I like to be an engineer, civil engineer, building these houses and luxury.
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I still, till in this age, even I didn't go to University of Engineering, I still drawing, you know, how I do.
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I designed all my house, how many houses I have in Europe, I designed all my houses, how I like it.
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And, when I went to University, I saw that he's applied there, I said, I'm not spending another four or five days with this idiot.
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I went to the law, something absolutely out of the numbers I get.
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I can be an MD or an engineer, or the numbers I get.
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But, I went to the law, it's very classy, I say, okay, we go to the law, finish my degree, and, at the time, you know, was Iraq-Iran war.
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They need soldiers, they need officers, they need...
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By Iraqi law, when you finish school or university, or you don't go to school, must you do the army things, you know.
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At the time, uh, when you are educated, university and like that, they give you a rank of officer on your shoulder.
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But, if you don't have any, you'll be just soldier.
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Because I was tall, and at the time, you know, healthy and muscles and like that, they picked me to be a commandos.
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Because, you know, we went to the commandos, training six months, straight away to the war.
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We was in a battle, you know, us Iranian, it was a shame to two nations to be fighting each other for no reason.
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Up till now, I fight, and I'm left nearly 30 years out, until now, I don't know why we fight.
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You know, I don't understand, what's happened between these two countries, because our relation, when the Shah was, was different from when the Khomeini came.
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Uh, us, I hear, because my dad, he was going holiday to Iran in the Shah time, he was saying this parish of Middle East is so nice, so this and that.
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Um, but you know, politics change and the stuff was changed, and Khomeini come and, we start hate each other, war start and, you know, war is not a fun thing, is not something to enjoy.
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No matter, no matter what you do, it's not a fun place to go.
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And, uh, I was seeing, you know, front of me my soldier be killed, I've been injured several times.
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uh i see iranian dead i see iraqi dead but all was the question in my head why we are here
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you know in my head i was more open in politics but in my head my father he hate politics
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he said don't talk politics don't say anything you know even the world have
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ear to hear you in iraq and this is the problem with me even my father was saying to me you don't
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listen you have a stone head what in your head you heard you do it i was sitting for example in a
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bunker and the night sometime peaceful is not two or three hours no shut hearing no bombing no nothing
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i think with myself i have a candle and two soldier three soldiers and i say to them why we are here
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why i was saying loudly to them and they were terrified because the similarity at the time
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between us and the shape of our face look like more i am related to this family especially the creed and
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al-oja all similar face thick mustache and all that when i was saying to them look we are brothers here
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don't look at my ring don't look at i'm officer but i'm asking you also human us iraqi why we are here
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why we don't see oh they and cosi the other son fighting here they terrified they don't know what
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they answered because they think i am one of them and i'm spying for example or but anyway one day
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my general called me you know we are on a front line it was like between us 600 meters no more on that
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between the first line with the iranians uh he called we have a you know like a radio it's common called
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dracal i like the sir is you know the general i said okay he said you come in now we leave everything
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you come in now at the time was like a lot of water around us they sent a small boat to us and
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bring the and we won i want he say what did you do love it i say i didn't do anything sir he
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say look at this letter coming from class i say which palace he said how many palace and you like
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the republic palace i look at the letter and you know must be that on the you know let it come in
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in 72 hours to the palace and like that anyway i took my car and i want i want it's like a it's like a
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reception i give the letter i say just sit there uh i wait like 10 15 minutes um another guy come in
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they put me in a car dark you can't see anything car is going around and there and left and right and i
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don't know where is going and then i was in front of palace shape the door like a eagle
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and here i want inside and somebody come to me and stay here one second sir okay
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there the doors open are they front of me how are you my friend how are you keeping
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this is today today is in front of you this is saddam's son that's in front of you yeah okay and i
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look at him and i said i'm good they say well done what you doing you have a few medals now and
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you're a good fighter and all these reports coming about you on this and that and sit down and he bring
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a cigar for me and he just clicked something and orange juice coming and fruit on the table and dies
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oh it's a long old days and start talking and i say to make it short to you
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and i smile and i smile and i say to him we are all saddam son you know in iraq we are all saddam songs
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they say no uh i want to be your real saddam son you i want you to be my fidei
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they sacrifice yourself for somebody else and i try to play stupid or idiot
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and i say what you mean bodyguard security he say no i want you to be out there
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and they start explain to me and like that but the picture in my head
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my dad my mother my sister my brother Baghdad Iraq everything is going in my
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head and the report coming from intelligence service they say you look
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like me and ha ha ha this he's talking and and I say any choice they say to me
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yeah sure we have choice we are in a free country you can say what you want
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to say and if you review I say if I say yes what happened if I say no what
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happened they say to me if you say yes you'll be all day my power everything is
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you if you say no I shake hands with you and you go to your army and finish I say
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great I say all day we are you know friends and you know I'm in the army and
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you know we are just another year or how long got to be I finish I go with my
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business and my dad business and like that and before even I finished I see his
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eyes just like start fire out of it and I say this mean you're refusing I say you
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give me the choice and I'm saying it was a glass of juice in my hand you kept it
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somebody come and take my ring out holding my eye my head is down but push me to the
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boot of the car not even in the car in the boot of the car driving around and like
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that kick me from the boot your head down down down open a door and they pushed me
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straight away I was to the wall they took this what they covered my eyes was
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everything is red light wall door door everything is red painted red no
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window no nothing you can see the time in it and they should be down there's one
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meter by one meter even you can't sit or you know not comfortable and not well yet no
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enough in this little hole in the floor and that's it I don't know how long I
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spend exactly but I was counted six seven days because even with that they was
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confused me they give me for example in a breakfast they give me dinner and the
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dinner they give me breakfast and you know just to don't know where you are what
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time the day or night but you know is it's not toilet smell you know psychologically
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after I learned after I learned this is a more psychologically war coming from
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Russian or Soviet Union intelligence service what they was training the Iraqi
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intelligence service for that but called psychologically war here what six seven
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days the door is open was a day and was another guy with him what he live in
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Jordan now he said to me did you change your mind now or do you want me to bring
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your sister's here and you know what this mean I say no please I do anything you
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want leave my family alone he say okay I was you know seven days same clothes
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dirty like this is it come out I come out they didn't fall my eye they didn't do
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anything to me I come out I saw myself this is the palace you know and they have
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a special prison for really serious people they hate them anyway he took me to the
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car the drone but ten minutes to project seven called the project seven this is one
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of the palace and the here everything and my life completely changed changed to in a
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bad way in a really bad way but anybody else if he didn't come in from multi-family for
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him as well or everything you know and I be slave for him is no problem how he treated me but
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I'm not a slave I born free man and you know sometimes even I don't listen to my dad because
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this is me but he say look all these people around here is you know they look after you they do
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everything for you and this and that go have a shower they bring me it's a nice shower you know
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to the palace one and everything clean nice you know the perfume is here it's best here I have
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my shower they show me my room it's really big bed and everything is luxury and they left me a few days
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there top food top drink top everything I wasn't at the time I drinking alcohol even I didn't you know
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let's have a smoker about a week less than week people come I don't know who they are but they don't look
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like Iraqi they start seeing lucky strip please what you minister strip please everything my weight my
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height teeth color skin all that has been checked I write it down I was short of short of you know
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oh they were three centimeters three and a half centimeters oh they were like six he's very tall
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he's very tall so that means you're also very tall hmm you're also tall I am tall yeah yeah but not same all day
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I mean this between us like they checked everything was even the voice very very close you know even even
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the doctor let's say how this happened you know my age I am just four years older of all day he born
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14 I'm 14 I born 14th of June 64 he born 18th of June 64 you know I can't be more concerned you know
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wait wait wait you guys are four days apart from your birthday yes I am older from four days
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wow and they start checking and everything uh they say the height you know after a few days the height
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got to be sold you know to have a high shoes they put at the time a general he was my mate you
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know just on the bed he don't be with me he training me every single thing you know showing me videos
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showing me this show me that but the training at the time does not start so they did my teeth my
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apprentice all has been changed because all day he have keeps forward they make it exactly like him the
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grab between the teeth all that sorted was the chin they did the operation I have a beard you can see it
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as open the chin something they drilled on I did all these operation when I come out to the west I took
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everything out and after done I have a break and really the bad suffering start my background is not for
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these things I didn't saw these things when I was child I was very soft even the army I was very soft even
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we are commandos most we don't care but I was soft you know anyway
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training was the first few weeks watching videos what kind of videos are they movement smoking walking
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talking move on hand in a speech how he stand up how he sit in his chair even when you come in to sit in
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your chair and which way you sit all that the hard part to start of watching torture what I never I was
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hearing about it but I never saw it the first half an hour less than half an hour I become really ill and sick I
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prove it from my head I can't take it you know and every time I through that push my head back watch I
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watch and watch and watch and watch and watch day after day after day and a week after week become normal in my eye
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and this is again as a part of intelligence service training
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this past box the worst is common all these torture I was seen in the videos I was sick
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but how about to see it life there was a bringing me somewhere the special prison
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and here you see the torture life and you see how the people tortured and how
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the nails team cables in the back and everything you know
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this when I asked one am what he was the general of an intelligence service why
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I go on through that they say to kill your heart you don't feel sorry for anybody
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to be part of my party if you don't be like that you don't survive an error
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you don't survive us a government and you present his song saddam song you don't survive
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and really even my personality start changing but it's still in my back here
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say I'm lucky if you're here not all this alone interesting so so at this point you've watched
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they've conditioned your mind they got to kill your heart they got to get you to realize that this is a
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normal life so this is not gonna you know hurt you you're getting colder you're you know becoming a
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little bit more of uh acceptance of the life of uh what it could like to be a day and uh going through
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this so now what what happens next after this where you actually get to see who day and at what point
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do you start spending more time with saddam hussein because they didn't want him to be in public
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in dangerous places they wanted you to be in public what ways were you used
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uh between the training i was meeting all day time to time he come on it's not like
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i finish meeting him it was time to time he come on to see and where we are and how we talk and
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and he was laughing you know he was really laughing and i don't know why but he was laughing anyway
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after all this finished they come in go have a shower go have this go have that
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a doctor come on he tested me and my mouth hand that it's like they have tissues cleaning my hand
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they bring brand new suit brand chair everything been new from shoes socks everything is in you
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what's going on is don't ask we go to see about an hour later car come on mona with me another car
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behind us and this is where i met the president for first time how was his demeanor when you met him
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how was he with him how was he with you uh he was sitting in his desk and he was writing something
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and just put his head up and a smile uh and he look at me welcoming me he shake my hand
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sit down i said was very good very nice not what we hear about him funny
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uh he said god he gave me two songs you are the third now
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anything you want ask anything in your dream just ask but try don't make me angry only this word
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and i said sure sir i don't do anything make you angry but to be fair you know
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you know he liked me he really liked me you know he never hurt me he always called me a son and he
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mean it when he said to me he always say to my shoulder everything okay nobody upsetting you no i'm
00:35:03.740
okay perfect that's it got it now at this point your family you're not in contact with your family does
00:35:10.220
your family know what's going on or no my family they told them latif he being killed in the war
00:35:19.900
but his body we can't get him iranian passed this line and we can't get him they did a funeral for me
00:35:28.060
that's it even uh i still have the picture of this the black sign they put when somebody killed in the
00:35:41.420
war by name in it and i have the video of my funeral you have the video of your funeral yes i have it uh
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uh yeah i have all these photos they took um for the funeral that's an army person he killed in the
00:36:01.420
war how long from from that until they found out you're alive how many years was that
00:36:10.060
less than two oh less than two years until they found out okay got it so so now you're in the family
00:36:17.180
saddam's calling you his son i had tuna i have three anybody making you upset you know cry don't
00:36:24.060
make me hungry you know he's telling you all this of his mindset um yeah when did you start seeing
00:36:30.380
how they lived and how he behaved i saw him i think second week of when i was in the palace when he was
00:36:42.380
coming you know he bring girls with him oh if you like somebody take her take her like you know look
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take her you know i said no i am here for something else but uh after i finish all these
00:37:02.460
training he start coming uh if he don't want me to go for him as a buddy to double
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uh he said okay you come and party party with me shave your beard okay shave your beard i'll just be
00:37:18.380
mustache i dress like a just normal suit i carry in a gun and all that and go behind him we with him
00:37:27.820
in his car but the parties i was seeing uh i don't think a king or prince or playboy
00:37:39.420
in the world with these parties how when you say that what do you mean by that well give us a little
00:37:44.940
bit of description one of the parties was his birthday his lot of
00:37:53.740
friend close friend to him i don't think he have a friend but i call them pimp i'm sorry for this wall
00:38:00.780
but this is the reality what i saw i call them pimps because they bring in girls
00:38:07.660
um they do every dirty thing just to be close to him one of the party was his birthday about 50
00:38:17.180
girls there and about 20 what called friend and i was in a corner having my cigar and a cognac beside me
00:38:30.380
he just passed 12 o'clock he took his machine gun and start shooting here and there he was absolutely
00:38:38.940
blocked drunk everyone's truck everyone take his clothes
00:38:48.860
everyone took his clothes out all of them you don't see any clothes in the place
00:38:56.060
man and woman this is one of the craziest thing really tell now the picture i can imagine that i was
00:39:05.580
there so they take their clothes off everybody took their clothes off yeah and then what happened
00:39:14.300
okay got it so everybody was just asking to okay i got it that makes sense yeah i thought you're gonna
00:39:20.300
say he took out the machine gun and did something to harm those girls uh because what i what i read
00:39:25.340
about him you know and and study about him over the years because you want to know what the family was
00:39:30.540
like uh they say based on what you read about he was more he was a psycho he was meaner he was more
00:39:40.700
vicious than his father ever was he took the level of viciousness to new heights is that a pretty true
00:39:46.620
statement or was his father more vicious than he was no he is he passed his father he passed a lot
00:39:56.060
at least his father when he was doing all these stuff he have strategy in his life he was doing that
00:40:05.340
for a politic issue for something he want to get in iraq but today he was doing it for
00:40:14.140
or maniac things is nothing is benefit of him uh you don't know what he want sometimes you see him
00:40:25.180
really laugh with a big mouth and half an hour later sitting in a corner crying like a baby
00:40:34.060
this kind of or the personality you don't know what he wants you don't know why he's doing that
00:40:42.060
uh when he drunk uh twice i heard from him he said to me my dad don't like me he like cosi more on me
00:40:55.180
this is why he don't want to give me a power this is why he thought cosi as a head of his security he
00:41:03.340
didn't put me i want to answer him but i i know my neck got to be bye bye now cosi was a little bit
00:41:13.660
more reserved to himself he was a little shy little quiet but he was calculating he had his dad's
00:41:20.380
calculating side based on what i read about him uh uh but he wasn't that uh uh public about it and i know
00:41:27.740
i know there was one time where he became the leader of secret service and his dad i think in 1984
00:41:32.940
made the day the chairman of the iraqi olympic uh committee yeah and he wanted this is the funny service
00:41:40.060
yeah uh cosi the second son he's more close to his dad this is why his dad trust him more one he's not like
00:41:51.820
all day he married even his youngest one he's very very clever for me personally i like him
00:42:04.540
very very intelligent he treats his people with him as a friend and a brother he don't hurt them like
00:42:12.700
all day what he do if he don't like you even your clothes in my group as a friend they say okay take him
00:42:20.460
shave his head shave his eyebrows uh send him to this place where be tortured okay just for fun for 10
00:42:28.700
days enough he's joking and this is what he do but of course i know no he give a chance second
00:42:36.860
he sit with you talk in a human way uh sometimes he said you don't look at me saddam son look at me as a
00:42:46.060
brother to your friend why you behave like that but saddam and cosi they was very hard and strong
00:42:58.220
with their family and they tried for example if any iraqi do something wrong i give you an example
00:43:06.540
maybe get forgiveness and a lot of forgiveness happen at the time
00:43:11.660
but anybody belong to saddam family cousin or cousin of cousin or coming from the creed
00:43:19.020
he'd been 10 times punished more than normal person
00:43:23.500
because saddam of course i was telling them when you behave like that you hated my name
00:43:31.820
and saddam to be very honest with you he was caring about his name so much
00:43:35.900
i saw one of his uh he was captain yeah he was captain one of the times or they sent me for torture
00:43:49.420
and was saddam closes sick you know security with him and from the creed because he did something
00:43:58.620
unusual in the street you know he he hit the traffic light or something was red and put he sent him
00:44:06.300
where i was being tortured for a month and he's a captain and his saddam family because he hit a red
00:44:14.700
light yeah he said because you behave you are belong to saddam name when people know you are my bodyguard
00:44:23.260
and behave like that how the normal people go to respect the law did did the the defy it seemed like
00:44:30.460
the father and the son were always uh uh at war like uh saddam and uday i remember one time i think
00:44:36.300
did did did um did uday one time accidentally shoot off his uh uncle saddam's uh uh brother brother
00:44:44.140
what happened to that story uh this is after i left oh that's after you right here yeah after i left i
00:44:53.020
heard it from one of these guys was with him uh but i tell you about kamil hannah what was saddam
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um food tester and his saddam was calling me calling him son you know more very close to him he's a christian
00:45:10.620
person but he and his family work all for saddam since he was kid and i remember was a party
00:45:22.460
and mubarak president of egypt ex-president visit iraq and
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kamil hannah did a party for them you know as a welcome into the country i think by order of saddam to
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do welcoming party for them we was uh like a few buildings and i have bania and we coming from
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habania to this place where it's called probably palace space or something like that as i can't
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translate it exactly in english i was sitting and all day he was going around
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kamil hannah invite every single one except all day
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and at the time it was a few months or less than a year saddam married secretly and this is what i break the news
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was when i came out and another woman uh her name samira and uh was true kamil hannah
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and a day he hated kamil hannah because of that how you get a woman and is dead of my mother
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and here was a war between them but he can't touch him because
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he know how valuable kamil hannah to saddam and very close to him he can't touch him
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anyway he started drinking he can hear the music and the singer from the other side
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how did he say to one of these guys around him go tell him because kamil hannah i think he become a little
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bit drunk he took his machine gun a celebration you know middle east shooting as a welcoming
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he told him go tell this idiot to stop shooting he went and he saw kamil hannah he was shooting
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him and kamil hannah told him tell a day i'm not taking order of him the only person i took order of him
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like i was sitting in the couch and my leg is up and another guy was having fun drink
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and you can take take it up as a sword when you pull it up as a sword inside
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he went and we we go after him where he going nobody talk to me nobody pushing here i'm pushing here
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we went around he went to kamil hannah with this heavy stick straight away to his head
00:48:31.980
a few times you can see the blood just keep going keep going
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take the knife straight away cut his neck take the gun start shooting here and there
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everyone terrified they took mubarak wife in the different car
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the palace and formed kamil hannah he being shot and being this and that
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he went to the bathroom and closed the door shut it down completely
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to open the door asking him to open the door nothing he keeps screaming screaming till
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and no more he can i can't hear we call him we call him no answer we break the door
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he was on the floor he took a lot of tablets was
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i don't know what they are a lot he took it a lot he want to kill himself
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put him in the car to the hospital was hospital belonged to the palace called
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the benzina and in this hospital they did what they did with him
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why he didn't stop him on this he took a day he wasn't lying in the bed and took him like that
00:50:19.900
slapping him you must be dead you must do this is you're shaming me shaming the family
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i will put you in the jail for all your life and if i can hang you
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so damn or that he put the judge is the one of the most powerful person in iraq and he say
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don't look at him as my son judge him as a murder for any person
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and believe it or no okay we say what they say saddam dictator and like that
00:51:15.980
ode mother contact king hussein of jordan to involve in this problem wow
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oh they has been taken to really really horrible uh prison cell really bad i mean bad you know
00:51:40.540
three doors to go inside the cell three doors and he by order of saddam
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you don't give him except bread and water nothing else bread water no as another thing and if i hear
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anybody treated him or look at him as saddam son i will put him with him
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and he put i remember three officers of his security to spy if somebody break the rule
00:52:20.300
till one day we see the plane of king hussein arrived in baghdad
00:52:26.860
and president saddam he go to the airport pick him
00:52:30.620
and king hussein of jordan involved to give an amnesty to
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okay and you know in arabic ways or middle eastern ways when somebody coming
00:52:50.380
uh asking you for forgiveness or all that you should take it and you know this is a king
00:52:58.540
and was you know friend with iraq and like that he can go back
00:53:12.540
saddam say okay i don't let you go without of do what you ask me but
00:53:23.500
in iraq anymore i want to kick him out of iraq and he never come back here
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i've been put back to project seven i'm not allowed to go anywhere
00:53:50.540
i think two and a half months we heard all day after he
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they sent him to swissland as an exile don't come back he killed somebody else in swissland
00:54:02.380
because it was a diplomatic community you have to have he's not allowed to be arrested we've been
00:54:10.700
back again the same circle when he came back you went back to the regular life again
00:54:26.220
he become worse actually wait he became worse when he got back
00:54:30.460
yeah worse worse i mean worse you know not uh like what he left before but
00:54:38.380
so was he the kind of person that hated being humiliated by his dad
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he you know what you are saying when he drunk are you saying you know if my dad go and i become
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president i make every iraqi feel guilty saddam is gone and you imagine what he was thinking
00:55:06.780
um would you would you say he had a deep hatred towards his father or no like did he hate his dad or
00:55:13.660
do you know was it complicated hate law okay did he want to take over that and be the president did he
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have aspirations of being president yes yes i can say this hundred percent what was in his head his
00:55:31.740
his thinking uh even cosi when he was saying you know sometimes they argue you know this is between
00:55:41.980
other and cosi you don't see them very very rare they are together you know very rare because
00:55:50.780
they always argue and of course even he's younger he telling him okay you want to be president after
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the president you know god give him life but with this behavior you don't belong in this chair if you get it
00:56:06.380
and this is always the argument between them cosi would say that to a day or udai would say yeah
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no of course i'd say it all day yeah got it got it interesting yeah i mean you you you see these
00:56:19.820
stories of what happens with them so at what point did you say i got to get out of this i don't want
00:56:24.300
to do this anymore how long did that take because i know you said that your family thought you were
00:56:27.740
dead for two years but two years later they found out you're not dead when did you say i want out of this
00:56:32.700
life i tried to kill myself how what i tried to what caused you to get to that point uh one time i was
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sitting in the top uh building of iraqi olympic committee uh all day he raped a girl and the father he was
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very known in baghdad as a famous person you know he coming to complain and say to him you know you rape
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my doctor and this and that oh they were sitting behind his desk office and he started shouting to
00:57:21.020
him well what do you want and your doctor he's a whore and you know he started screaming and and the other
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man he can't hear somebody call his doctor whore
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he did something i i as i remember spitting him or something bad word he say
00:57:42.620
i was sitting on the left the table front of me fruit and he threw his gun to me like that and he
00:57:52.860
said to me shoot him i took the gun and i put it in the chair they say shoot him i say no i'm not doing
00:58:02.940
that you want to shoot him you do it is not me no i order you to shoot you i say okay took the knife and
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i start cutting myself look if you can see here and here and here boss say just the blood was all over
00:58:23.420
you crazy this what hospital they bring me to hospital
00:58:29.340
uh yeah stitches and like that see come on you're crazy you are this or that
00:58:34.780
uh anyway to make it a little bit shorter until i met the president you know i say to him i don't
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want to complete work with this guy uh he gave me a mercedes 300 svl was zero mileage in it
00:58:57.260
and uh before that uh i've been tortured and thrown out of my family house they didn't recognize me
00:59:20.060
it must start you know this is in middle east humiliation
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sore you know they threw me like piece of potato like bag of potato outside the home and
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my mother my sister didn't recognize who i am only through my voice
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you are dead we did a funeral for you you know how this happened i i told them the story and
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uh my dad he had a friend he had a private hospital in a good area
01:00:25.660
he bring me to this hospital was a poison in my blood
01:00:29.580
become you know mostly change all my blood you know from the torture and where they put me and you know
01:00:36.780
like uh you know the manhole with a lot of toilet stuff in it that cat that you know every rats everything
01:00:48.140
with all these torture and my skin is open and infected
01:00:52.380
they threw me in inside this place and you know i get really infected in my body completely
01:01:02.700
my daddy he bring me to this hospital i stay over 40 days there
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i was really really saying with myself that's it there i could over for me it's completely over
01:01:19.100
but uh what they teach me in intelligence service i should use it now
01:01:25.500
against them so don't be stupid and do it quick think about it and learn what they teach you how
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till one day after i really get out of the hospital a little bit my eyebrows my hair start growing
01:01:51.660
and he sent somebody and call me a day he have a party and arvashi milia mansoor hotel
01:02:03.420
uh he all these group got to be on most you coming
01:02:09.740
uh before that i had a car i am a fan of cars i buy really up till now in this age i buy
01:02:29.420
if you see all videos of president ahmed hassan al-baker
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long limousine black one i bought it because of the history of it i bought it
01:02:50.300
he want to buy it i said no i'm not selling it with the price you want to buy it
01:03:00.700
make it shorter he went to udai and told him luffy told me i'm not selling cars for all day pimps
01:03:22.940
i took my girl but she was with me what she's
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one to the left want to go down before the door closed he starts shooting shooting shooting then i get
01:03:34.220
one in my shoulder go down i took my car i never stopped till musul
01:03:52.860
his gun you know but i'm a good driver good marches no stop
01:04:03.660
half kilometer before i put the sensor out to the lights inside
01:04:09.020
they open the no check no nothing anyway i went to musul from musul they smuggling me to kurdistan
01:04:16.220
and uh another part of life start here another chapter
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done so that was it you were out you left everything that's the last
01:04:35.580
the the assassination attempts then it start you had three in vienna i believe you had one in london
01:04:40.860
and one in norway right or am i missing one correct correct
01:04:44.220
so they're still chasing you no matter where you were going
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yeah and when we say they is they would they or is is it would they could say uh uh
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kosei and uh saddam not saddam i can say to you 100 and i tell you the reason now
01:05:04.940
and definitely not kosei because i was in contact with kosei
01:05:08.780
it was a day got it so you know it wasn't kosei you know it wasn't saddam but you know what's with
01:05:14.860
these people that are coming after you yeah got it so you leave um you go and start your own uh new
01:05:22.940
life are you following everything with the story with the plans of wanting to retaliate against or day
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and if yes how did you okay here first of all if i go back nearly 30 years back
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one i don't write any book two i'll be disappeared three i don't be in the media four i never say anything
01:05:51.660
about my ex-life and i live my life and i have my passport my great family my this since the book
01:06:04.780
i wrote it and i start in the media my life demolished up till now i'm talking to you
01:06:14.460
i don't have a life even saddam gun even bad gun even more saddam and are they gone but another
01:06:27.420
chapter start with the another government in iraq now exactly worse what they did to me
01:06:36.700
since saddam fell i have four death penalty issued by this new regime in iraq
01:06:48.700
why i was dream what intel do you what intel do you have that scares them that concerns them
01:06:55.340
i have a mouth and i know them and those people we wasn't saying team of iraqi opposition
01:07:02.140
i know up and down of those guys what the guy he was driving my kids omar 27 years ago to school
01:07:12.060
he become prime minister you imagine in iraq then another one she was a chef cooking in my house she
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became third secretary in iraqi and that's in holland you know everyone out of my house he become leader now
01:07:27.900
a people a people you know ibrahim jaffari this guy what he become second prime minister in iraq
01:07:38.300
he's registered in london he's a psychopath he went to the social worker excuse me pm himself because they
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cut his hundred pound of rent and now six billion pound he owned in britain
01:08:05.740
and when i talk maybe you visit my channel on youtube you know this is six channel verified channel
01:08:14.140
they shut it down for me 1.2 million follower in youtube verified channel page one kick gun
01:08:26.620
one and a half million in facebook switch off they find people they buy in people because they don't
01:08:34.620
want to hear they dare what i know about them and i do life always i do life now with with my follower
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so even my enemy they start following me and telling me you're telling the truth you know truth is hard
01:08:51.580
truth is hard those guys were running iraq make me personally and this is first time i will say that
01:09:03.020
make me make me feel so sorry i was opposition to saddam hussein compare saddam to those guys
01:09:14.460
he's a prophet coming from allah or god i'll call him what you call him compared to these guys saddam he
01:09:21.500
didn't kill in 35 years what those people killed in the past 17 years saddam he was running the country
01:09:29.660
country up and down and you have every month food you got your local shop you get it for free
01:09:38.220
he was running iraq 10 billion pounds okay a year now 130 billion uh dollar i say a year
01:09:51.420
a year half of the nation living from rubbish they don't have food 17 years of democracy
01:10:00.540
no electricity no water no education no medical health no system no nothing absolutely nothing
01:10:10.220
we have musul gun destroyed as a flat land now but the most of history
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every sunni area has been destroyed i'm not against anybody not a religion no anything
01:10:26.540
nothing i never talk religion because for me religion is destroying of mind no matter which way
01:10:36.380
i never talk religion or believe in this or that i believe what here i believe what i see i believe
01:10:44.620
what i read and after that i make my mind you don't come to me and tell me 1400 years ago something
01:10:51.500
happened where is your proof story we can't tell a story those people and they are not even shia
01:11:01.580
you know they saying they are shia but for me no i have a lot of friends here they are nice people they
01:11:10.620
are educated people they are they don't have this hate for other people you know i have so much iranian
01:11:19.100
friends i have a friend from chafana from everywhere and though i never look at the person which religion
01:11:25.820
or background coming you know let's even question for you because sometimes when when you know anytime
01:11:33.020
we do interviews with anybody we we we will typically do extensive research and the team
01:11:38.940
will get a lot of data and we'll contact some people some of the people will say
01:11:42.860
some of the stories you say you over exaggerate and it didn't have you know you have to say yeah
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they're fake and fake they're not real it didn't happen you waited for them to die until
01:11:52.860
you told the story when they died and then you came up so some of the people are saying that about
01:11:57.580
you what do you say to people that say none of these things you talk about are true you've made up
01:12:02.380
what do you say to them three newspapers wrote this three of them they are friends to each other one
01:12:10.860
he starts he's in ireland he's not a journalist two nothing to do with journalism three when he wrote the
01:12:22.780
article to the guardian in britain he wrote it as opinion if you go search of this guy background
01:12:35.500
he bagged me in ireland to come and do another review with me
01:12:41.580
and i welcome him to my home what is not easy for me to bring somebody to the home but this guy he
01:12:47.900
been paid to something new one he's not a journalist he write a small line and local paper about a new
01:12:59.260
pubs is open an area a new restaurant open and i wrote a full article on my website about him
01:13:07.340
but at the time give me one and whole world from trump to smallest person in the world
01:13:17.900
not being humiliated by media if he's you know no one uh or he have enemy or have you know jealousy kill
01:13:29.020
sometimes when they say in latif nobody heard about him till he wait a day and of course i die
01:13:37.340
and love it coming out no in 1993 my first book coming out in vienna by norcoff lag was a book
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thousand page okay 1993 this is 10 years early of ode and kose yeah when the book come out i get the
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first assassination attempt i think a few weeks later second assassination attempt was a bomb under my car
01:14:05.740
and everything has been uh documented by the austrian intelligence service but they don't want to say it
01:14:14.780
why because was an agenda between iraq and two country financial was at the time controlling austria was
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iran and iraq you know there was controlling the intelligence service they have everything in vienna
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you know was iranian government and iraqi government at the time all the iraqi embassies
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after the second gulf or the invasion of kuwait has been shut down except two one in switzerland
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and one in vienna was international uh law and they close everything they don't have anything
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and i was fighting okay in 1994 i get the assassination attempt in 1995 i get assassination attempt
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and 90 in march 1995 i come to london running from austria i've been shot here but the bullet doesn't come
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to me was one of my guys again oh they personally called me i was wishing at the time in 95 like we have
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this technology you can record for the phone you know he said to me 3rd of july 1995 your dad is here in my office
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if you don't stop you never see your dad again there you go this is your dad i talked to my dad
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the one word the one word say to me god make my life god he take it not this motherfucker okay
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fourth of july next day after 12 hours i think no more on that my father was killed
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i paid the price until now i am eating myself because of that but again where those people was
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okay when i sit we can't say media can be full right media they have their sources and half of the
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media they have very good connection with intelligence service that is not intelligent service police
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secret service i don't know what correct how can latif yahya fool the world from 92
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up till 2003 right to how can latif yahya sit and make up this story
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if you read the book i wrote it in 1992 correct if i wasn't inside this
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how i know every nails where in the palace i described the palace exactly how i lived in it correct
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who can go in this world to saddam palace and live there correct you can't drive even outside the palace
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in baghdad in baghdad how can i be inside and describe all these what inside the palace and the secret and
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everything and all that intelligence service here in the west they say to me
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you know now we found because an article or two somebody wrote about you second journalist
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contact producing company when we was filming in malta
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who is ed cesar he's a friend with this guy in an island
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he told him if you read the article ex-wife i don't know what okay give me one ex if she was good she
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don't be ex correct if she is a ex she got to talk good about love if you're here no correct she got
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to fabricate a story and say story and like that but again i answer even she's my ex because i don't
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like the drugs because i don't like somebody stealing from my bank account because i don't like
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somebody sit having sex in my house in my bed when i'm traveling for business and when i catch them
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okay this is what happened this is the irish police and when i been hit by irish police 21 stitches in my
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face broken nose everything since i've been injured this 11th of april 2000 up till now today
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7th of december 2020 i want to bring this sergeant to court i can't
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with all the power i have with all the money i have with all the lawyer i have
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i can't this is the west okay they can't put you up up up but when they finish off you
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you can see the fabrication of people when they come and claim refugee status
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and you can see the fabrication of a lot of people claim refugee status but they've been sold
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themselves there they get the political refugee status why is somebody like here nearly 30 years
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30 years if i was killed killed 10 people i don't sit in a prison 30 years correct
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30 years only two years ago britain give me a refugee status
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two years ago okay wow working paying tax my ex-wife she was irish 18 years in ireland 22 million
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euro investment uh no criminal record my kids irish
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uh my wife irish i own everything i don't claim anything but still no three times they reject me
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minister discretion why i found in the end why because i was one of my interviews did with uh
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uh hard talk british program because i stripped the irish government and this is the truth i didn't
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do something because they are corrupt i talk about them because they always ask bribery from me for any
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project i do must i give brown envelope to my project begun it's like i'm sitting in iraq or iran or
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i don't know where it's not a european country 18 years with investment and everything they reject me
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i left ireland after they kicked me out with no reason 18 years they give me investor visa
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every year every year must i go and get my renewal 2014 i want to renew it they refuse me why you don't
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have any connection in this country anymore okay what what now what should i do you leave the country
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or you'll be by force deported to iraq okay and i say you know what happened to me if i go back to iraq
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let me say this is what we can do i say excuse me i say you and your country now i left
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i left like a gypsy every day somewhere i start from finland coming to sweden coming to this everyone reject
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me it's like i'm a disease somebody don't want to touch me why because they think i'm a trouble for them
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they think if something happened to me the country got to be blamed right i come to britain
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i claim refugee status my partner she's british my two kids british
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and they don't want to give me they don't want to give me three and a half year i have companies i
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have business i have everything but i am not allowed to work you pay in tax it was okay but you are not
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allowed to work till you the decision come on you can see how the business work here okay and every
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single day me and the lawyer sit call the home office and every one we get he telling us different
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story but we record all that we record all that in the end have somewhere we found to complain about
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the home office what they doing we send the three three record each record 15 minutes
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after the home office no i record every single thing
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five days does not take more exactly my better date 2018
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14th of june register post come to me the postman say to me must you sign here i don't know what in it
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i open it full status because they afraid i go with these records out
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so now you're you're safe now uh where you are in britain you you can stay there you can work you
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don't have to worry about going to another place no i'm not worried but i'm worried
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see saddam hussein at the time we know the intelligence service house work right
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okay after 2003 for these mullahs what coming to iraq they have already based in britain
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they have very old base here since 70s okay the billions of pounds and dollars and the wealth
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the threat back to love if you're here do you know just last week the intelligence service or the
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police coming to my house calling me your life in danger they put alarm in every single window
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connected to the police they put a black box uh with the key and the bottoms give it to me and my
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partner this must be with you and if i say what's going on they say just if something happened press
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this button they know my life now then you're more on saddam time on saddam time i kind of played the
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game and so dumb time i can travel i can go i can get but now no you know and especially with this age
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when i was in ireland before i come to britain i'll be shot i'll be shot by shia militias
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but they put five million for my head and this is why i'm disabled now
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where is the law where is the logic what claim and lot if you're here he fabricated stuff and like that
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and now when people go before hundreds of people and media and company
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why you go google love if you're here why always come in these bad articles in the top over 100 000
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pages why all these people always they put this up you know google kind of play with those
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okay why they put this because you see now everything fast when you google sand now when you put full name
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the first two line coming okay if some is good oh perfect i like this i pick the perfect thing i
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don't care about what the rest down a bloody oh the first article oh fabrication oh he's live he's that
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that's it this is the picture straight away coming yeah you know because people become lazy they don't go
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i don't say be investigator but ask to get an answer you don't hear it
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you don't hear it from here and there that's i say to them i say to them all those people
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if you have and now after the invasion you have all the documentation of iraqi intelligence service before
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if you find anything again and the problem with the cia in 1991 when they took me out
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okay they checked me twice they put me in lie detector okay twice not one twice and this is why they took me
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out why they didn't take it at the time was you know the kurdish war and there wasn't a turkish border
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why they didn't take two hundred thousand five why they took latif yahya because they know i wasn't lying
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they saw all these holes in my body they saw all these torture they saw photos and my id
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what they promised me to give it to me back but they took me out and they said we send it to you and
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i will see it again this is why i don't talk to media a lot with all my respect to the media some of them
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is good but this is why i pull out i say why i do it i create more enemy because i tell
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how is work and how i you know nearly 30 years in the media i know every single thing how is
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sick okay who is better me or bbc in britain sure bbc right two days ago was a program
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about diana after 20 25 years channel for the british one
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take the death of bbc 25 years ago what they did with diana all fabrication all the lie the bbc did to
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her till being killed and they are now in a really catastrophic way and this is a bbc the channel of
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the country of course fabricate fabricate a story against who diana she's a princess she's not what if
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you're here and she's killed and now all the dirt coming out lie is short correct if they had
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anything again it's not if you're here long time ago was in the media i don't want to somebody say he
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and she no put a decumon what the people said about me was the pimp i was talking about them in the
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beginning of the program do you understand what i get it i know clearly which one you're talking about
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yeah i know clearly which one you're talking about this by the way a couple questions uh
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was there a double for saddam as well or no did he have a double because there's rumors he had a lot of
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doubles i saw one okay just one anybody else and i was laughing about this book uh the guy what he
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interrogates saddam uh in the cia or something when he wrote the book he says saddam he say i don't have
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double no one go to say i have though because when you have double this means a coward yeah and saddam he
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don't show he's a coward person got it correct yeah that's how you and then his his sons when
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they got killed july 22nd 03 i believe it's july 22nd 03 uh what were they killed from i know there
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was a assassination attempt but what do you know the story because i've heard a lot of different versions
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of it the man the man what he say where is all they uncle say he told the american they are there
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because this when they come into this guy i think oh they uncle say as i hear from
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a sister of them okay this is more and you can go more closer of that
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uh i think they give him a three million dollar to stay a week
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till they started because there was being kicked from syria and they don't have anywhere to go till
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they go to this guy what they know him he was a part of uh friends of saddam or something like that
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and he went to american and told them they are in my house for three million dollars yeah plus the 25
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of each he get it got it so 53 53 and he's uh and monaco now very happy wow so he made his 53
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doing doing it that way well uh latif i gotta tell you you you got a lot of stories and i appreciate
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you being uh uh cooperative and just kind of you know taking every question and giving your
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perspective on what you have uh i gotta tell you i remember the first time i saw the movie
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and the actor that plays you and uday yeah he did a great job i mean what a great that movie
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the acting in that movie is impeccable i mean i gotta tell you a lot of respect for that movie when i
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saw it i said this is not an easy movie to do this is not easy to be two parts but he did a great job
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uh portraying the stories of what happened with you and uday but uh about the movie uh
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it's not all true as you know of course as you saw it uh they breached the contract with 11 paragraph
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uh i sued them i went and i hope it's going to be remade for full story this time would not change
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how they the director changing you know hollywood has to add their own spice to it sometimes you know
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they do it whatever it's not not in this way because uh the script i told them if something change in the
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script must i see it and sign for it and this is why the breach of 11 paragraph was and this is why i
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get my right back very interesting yeah you you got you got a lot of interesting stories and like i
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said at the beginning you've lived an interesting life you said not an interesting life a rough life
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at the beginning and uh congratulations on finally being a refugee of uh britain and the family that
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you're over there and i hope uh everything works out for you from here on moving forward
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thank you so much patrick good to see you and good to meet you thank you thank you i don't know about
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you when you listen to the story for the first time it almost doesn't seem real you know it's like
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hey you know i was a double and then you watch the movie you read the book you read the article this is
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if this story is true this is a this is an insane story of uh what uh he went through i want to hear
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your thoughts comment below on what your takeaway was uh and if you enjoyed this story i did an
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interview with the youngest sergeant major in 2003 2004 i believe he got promoted to sergeant major
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when iraq goes down he was the 21st soldier of the iraqi army at 17 18 19 years old he becomes a
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sergeant major if you haven't heard this story it's a phenomenal story of hamudi jassim if you've not
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