"Victimhood Is Their Blankey" - PBD REACTS To EXPLOSIVE Jubilee Debate On Capitalism vs Socialism
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In this episode, we talk about mental illness and how it affects the capitalist system. We also talk about the girl with mental illness, Jubilee, and her reaction to the clip of her being called mentally ill and how she reacts to it.
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Let's talk about some of these wonderful people on Jubilee, and I don't know which one to start off with.
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I say we start off with, do we go with, show the girl with mental illness, is that the one?
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She did. She afterwards reacted as well. We'll play the clip. I mean, she posted it up there, so you have to see it.
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Here's us at Jubilee. What people don't realize is, to my right, right here is Adam, Vinny, Rob, Tico, Brandon, and Humberto.
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Every time one of these guys laughs or moves, they don't realize, I see them.
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I'm also mentally ill, so that was something I had to deal with, but I'm mainly mentally ill because I am disabled in a capitalist country.
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Tell me more about mentally ill. Who qualified you as somebody that's mentally ill?
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What's the specific category of mental illness? Is there one?
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You know why I asked this question? Let me explain to you why I asked this question.
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I don't even like the psychological industry. I don't really stand for like Sigmund Freudian politics or anything like that.
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I don't have access to even a result or a solution to my disability as someone with a connective tissue disorder. It's genetic.
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Have you been able to go to different doctors and get yourself tested?
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Is there anyone in your life that's willing to pay for a specialist?
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Well, they could or they would if they had money, but they...
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Would you be okay if I paid for a specialist for you to go see?
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Would you take money from a capitalist to help you go see a specialist?
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I'm going to have you go see two... Do you live in California?
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I'm going to have you go see two specialists, but would you also be open to seeing somebody else I choose as a psychologist that may...
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You're choosing who gets to determine what my mental health looks like?
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And then I realized that the only people who are...
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The only people who are criticizing me are capitalists, so it makes it really easy to laugh at them.
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Their only gotcha for me is that I'm disabled and mentally ill.
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I'm going to go out there on a limb and say that she's actually mentally ill.
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But it is kind of weird, though, that you're like, as if you were going to find a psychologist that's going to be a different...
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Like, no, I just want to find out what's the mentally ill.
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Because, I mean, we're all kind of a little crazy.
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If these kids are for communism, what makes them think they get to pick their own medical experts?
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I'm just saying, like, socialized medicine, like, you don't pick your doctor.
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Does she even understand what she's fighting for?
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But in any socialized medicine, you are given what you're given, period.
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Do you think she was like that at 10 years old?
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Oh, I think she's got a screwed up home life boss.
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When I'm sitting in the room, you know, all I'm thinking about, this is someone's kid.
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And, of course, they don't even realize this is their job resume for the rest of their lives.
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If I'm sitting in front of that guy and one of my employees from HR comes up and shows a picture and says,
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This one, I offered her to renunciate her citizenship.
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I like to be free, but that's why I'm anti-capitalist.
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That is why I'm anti-capitalist because capitalism removes that choice.
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There is no real incentive of capitalism because the incentive is survival.
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When you get into communism, the incentive is for the common good.
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If I were to give you your $2,350, which is the cost to renunciate your citizenship,
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and I paid you your first class flight to whatever communist country and $20,000 of spending money,
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would you give up your citizenship to go to that country?
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I'll give you a one-way ticket, and I'll fund it for you if you want to.
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No, I look at this, and look what happens when you try to take away their blankie.
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That girl that's mentally ill really, you know, it's easy to laugh and point,
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It says, I'm doxing her damn parents, and you can come sue me.
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Because that is a valuable person under there that somewhere along the way was enabled
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and believed that she's mentally ill, and now she has a persona represented by her makeup
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and the image she projects, and her condition is her blankie.
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If you take that away, she has to be accountable in a world where you have to, you know,
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support yourself and do things, and she will not give up that blankie.
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But she ended up with it because of the way her parents did.
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This person, Pat, very eloquently just says, okay, tell you what, I'll give you the fee.
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Take up your citizenship, and here's $20,000 when you get there.
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And all of a sudden she stammers because now you're going to take away her blankie.
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She can't sit and just howl at the moon about capitalism sitting there right now.
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She would have to go to a communist country and howl at the moon about something,
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and then the police would come do a drum solo on her head, right?
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She's not going to like how it works in real communist countries.
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Here's my impression of what happened during Jubilee.
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You have someone named Patrick Beddavid who had a 1.8 GPA, father, worked in a 99-cent store,
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came from Tehran, Iran, and yet still is optimistic about the future.
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Then you have all these kids who were born in California who are arguing in a pessimistic standpoint.
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If you want to understand why California is broken, look no further.
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If you tried to put 20 people in a Jubilee-type setting in Florida, my opinion is you couldn't get 20 of these people to show up.
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California has raised mentally ill trans anti-American communists, and they're just all over the place.
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In California, you can get them at the snap of your finger.
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The biggest takeaway I have from this, it's easy to find the mentally ill girl who, you know, is clearly insane in some capacity.
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It's easy to find the trans person, and that obviously they have some major issues.
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To me, the one that stood out, there was this tall, 6'4", good-looking white kid who played victim.
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It's like, how are you playing the victim, guy?
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You're a good-looking, tall, white kid in America.
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Like, and at some point, not even this kid, this kid wouldn't take a job if his life depended on it.
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But they just have this overall victim mentality that is unshakable, no matter what you say.
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So you can try to help them, but they won't help themselves.
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Okay, well, I think you've got a convergence of two cultural problems.
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The first one is we are infantilizing citizens, period.
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And I've seen this for a while, whether you're overweight, whether you're a person of color, whether you're a young person.
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Everybody's a victim, and they love the narrative at first because you don't have to take any agency.
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But I absolutely think this is by design, and I have for a while because when you make somebody a victim, you fundamentally disempower them to make a change.
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At the same time, you do, and we have to give a little credit to this fact, it is harder for kids today.
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And it isn't just these kids who seem a little crazy on this jubilee.
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There's a YouGov poll that we actually covered on her take, and I can't remember the percentage.
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I think it was like 20%, Rob, of young kids today are favorable towards communism, not democratic socialism.
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You definitely have a system that is being exploited.
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I think we have to acknowledge that and look to reform it, which kind of goes back to what I was saying.
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When we're fighting with each other, nobody's really paying attention to who's manipulating and pulling the strings.
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And I think those exact same people are infantilizing these kids on purpose so they feel incapacitated and incapable of doing anything while simultaneously turning us all on each other.
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Yeah, so imagine the part for me was what are professors teaching in universities?
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Like I almost want to find out who their favorite professor was and do a panel with them and talk to them and say,
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You know, what are you doing bashing these people with the dreams that they may have?
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Families are spending $200,000, $300,000 to send their kids to their school to what?
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To get this to happen to their brains, to be brainwashed like this?
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I said, once my age hits six, starts with a six, we will consider building a school like no other.
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We're going to build a flipping school that we're going to develop some of the greatest leaders in the world.
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At 60 years old, we start talking about raising money, doing some real things, building something special to develop leaders.
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Because at the end of the day, you can hear stuff and you can bitch about it.
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Like for you, they're criticizing you with the Netflix special, right?
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When they're coming out talking about your body shaming or, you know, all this other stuff and the coffee.
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I don't even know half the stuff I'm reading about.
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Here's a person that, how many years was your show on?
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I think there were five, maybe seven that participated in this documentary, of which four of them I worked with.
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Gosh, I hate to tell you, how about the fact that I didn't even watch the whole thing?
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Now, with that said, there's a lot of lying going on.
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However, if we were to look at what really happened on that show, I have a 35% success rate with the people that I worked with.
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It's 5% of people that lose a larger, significant amount of weight.
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And, of course, they left out the vast majority of the people who I just referenced that did amazing, because that kind of news doesn't sell.
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But the people that I forced to take responsibility, those are the ones that kept it off.
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It's easier to blame, you know, a different person to be the enemy.
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You're saying 95% of people gained the weight back, and 5% are the ones that kept it off.
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On the show, 35% of the people that I worked with kept it off, which is why I'm saying it was actually hugely successful.
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You know who is one of the best guys that we spoke to about this was Ethan Suplee.
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He says 250 pounds, but he says in his lifetime he's lost over 1,000 pounds.
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And he broke it down in a very serious, straight-up way that, look, this is not easy for me to do, but it's my responsibility, and I've got to do something about it.
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But, yeah, I mean, look, at the end of the day, it's always easier to target someone who is pushing the message of responsibility, because that's an annoying message, because responsibility goes to who?
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Tom wants to be able to say it's my fault, you know?
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It's what they have put around you and what they've done to you.
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That was the biggest thing with Jubilee, though.
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So, for example, with Biggest Loser, if I were to give you an example of a contestant
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that I had worked with, this girl was pulled away from her mother, put into foster care.
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Her mother would turn tricks for heroin while she was locked in a closet.
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In order for her to change, you have to say, I get it.
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All of these horrible things happened to you, and this has to be worked through, and I'm
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But the defense mechanism that you have chosen is now killing you.
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And therefore, you need to make a different choice.
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This is where you have to take ownership of how you continue onward and how you respond
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Or do you take back control, take agency, and make a change?
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I'll say that there are some people that have a hard time breaking out, that just like women
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that are trapped in abusive relationships and they don't have a friend, they don't have
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They need help from churches, from friends, or things like that to enable to get out.
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You talked about something where you said there is this victory that one of the contestants
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But then you looked at the mom and the mom, can you, I don't want to recount that.
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He was 18 years old and he showed up with his dad to the show and they both did fantastic,
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So we're about eight weeks in and we're coming into the holidays.
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Nobody's been eliminated and they've lost roughly a hundred pounds each.
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Now the contestants would go home for the holidays.
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They wouldn't, as mentioned, they're not eliminated and they would come back to the
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So we would just position it on the show because it might air in April as like, oh, let's
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So this kid comes back, everybody's weighing in and this one lost six pounds and that one
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And the dad, this gentleman named Ken, loses nothing.
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The kid gets on the scale and I think he gains like six or seven pounds.
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And immediately the contestants start co-signing each other's bullshit.
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It's so hard while you travel and the food at the airport isn't healthy.
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So I sit down with this kid the next day and I'm like, all right, Austin, just walk me
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through it from the moment you left here to the moment you got back.
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The kid arrives at home, the door flies open, all the friends and family are there and there's
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And it is not tears of joy because mom is morbidly obese herself.
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And upon seeing her now much thinner husband and much thinner son, they broke the contract
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She feels like they're going to leave her behind.
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It means an emotional connection to his mother.
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And when he gives it up, what does it represent?
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Because they're not prepared to give up what the food afforded them.
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But at some point, you've got to empower him and give him the tools to make these changes
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I think you're being so empathetic and fair about it, right?
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That there is a side of it that maybe if I'm, you know, the mother is doing heroin and selling
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tricks and it's like, maybe if I get fat, men won't be attracted to me that they won't.
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I can see some of those stories and those are noble stories.
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I think a lot of times, Jillian, people want an out because the out gives them freedom.
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When building a business in the last 25 years when I ran an insurance company, it was so
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easy for people to quit to create a video and trash us because this is hard.
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It was easy to use God as an excuse and say, well, I'm just, you know, God is more important
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me than you and I can't give a Bible study and this and this and that.
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Anything to not work, anything to avoid doing the actual work and making it like it was
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The out is liberating why I wasn't able to succeed.
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You know, I'm mentally ill because the capitalism system.
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You know, when you hear stories like that, Adam, last thing and then we're going to wrap up.
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If you were born in America, you've won the golden ticket of life.
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How many people are trying to come into America versus trying to go into all these countries
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It's white privilege and there's economic privilege.
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You are so freaking privileged to live in this country called America with the stars and stripes.
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And if you wake up every day and all you think about it is America's bad.
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So you wake up every day and your glass is either half full and you're optimistic
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or you're going to play the playing game and your life will dictate exactly how your mentality is.
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