Valuetainment - October 13, 2026


"Violence and Conquest" - Historian on How Nations Became Muslim

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6 minutes

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1,029

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91

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00:00:00.000 When you think about every single Muslim-majority country today, every one of them,
00:00:03.820 whether it's Iran, previous to that was Zoroastrianism, right?
00:00:07.140 Egypt, Coptic, Christian, kind of like yourself.
00:00:09.440 Turkey, Christians.
00:00:10.820 Pakistan, Hindu and Buddhism. 0.98
00:00:12.080 Bangladesh, same.
00:00:13.240 Afghanistan, same. 0.97
00:00:14.300 Iraq, Christian and Zoroastrianism. 0.91
00:00:15.800 Syria, Christian. 0.51
00:00:16.680 Lebanon, Christian. 0.92
00:00:18.120 Jordan, Christian.
00:00:18.900 Palestinian territory, majorly Christian.
00:00:21.640 Some of them are in South America.
00:00:22.940 Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Morocco, Sudan, Somalia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan. 1.00
00:00:28.800 These are Muslim-majority countries that they came in and now took over. 0.99
00:00:33.860 They were not previously to that. 1.00
00:00:35.400 One is why.
00:00:37.100 Two is the following.
00:00:39.000 One has to sit there and say, well, as much as some people fear the Jews or, hey, what's their motive?
00:00:47.020 What are they trying to do? 0.99
00:00:48.280 They haven't conquered countries the way the Muslim religion has done, right? 1.00
00:00:52.940 Why are they doing it, and how are they so successful? 1.00
00:00:56.040 What's their strategy? 1.00
00:00:57.640 Well, the difference, the main difference between the Muslims and the Jews is just, first of all, sheer number and strength. 0.80
00:01:03.220 The Jews, if they get accused of anything, it's undue influence and behind-the-scenes machinations generally. 0.98
00:01:09.100 Because how can they look? What are they, 0.01% of the world? 1.00
00:01:13.540 Islam is a physical force, right? 0.97
00:01:16.200 We're talking about two and growing, two billion people. 0.99
00:01:19.920 So Islam was always seen as a physical, a real tangible threat that can come and conquer through sheer numbers and take over your land. 1.00
00:01:28.000 All those countries that you mentioned were literally conquered by force. 0.99
00:01:31.120 I spoke about North Africa and Middle East, but you mentioned the Kazakhstan and East.
00:01:35.480 How did they become Islamic? 1.00
00:01:36.460 It was through the same mechanism, just violence and conquest. 1.00
00:01:40.700 India, people aren't aware of the conquest of India by the Arabs.
00:01:45.880 According to one well-known, reputable Indian historian,
00:01:51.040 I think his name is, we can look it up, something, Khal.
00:01:55.020 But he wrote a very methodical history,
00:01:58.300 and he came up with some insane number,
00:02:00.020 like in five centuries of nonstop jihad,
00:02:02.600 something like 100 million Hindus were killed,
00:02:04.860 just because they're not Muslim. 0.99
00:02:07.140 So that is known. 1.00
00:02:08.500 You have the option to either join us or we're killing you. 0.99
00:02:11.100 That's black and white? 1.00
00:02:12.200 Yeah.
00:02:12.780 And is that how it was from the beginning?
00:02:14.760 Yeah, so from the beginning, according to Islamic teaching, if you're a Hindu or a pagan, yeah, you're supposed to either convert or die. 0.80
00:02:22.520 But if you're a people of the book, a Christian or a Jew, you can actually pay tribute, jizya, and live as a second-class citizen, as I was mentioning earlier, with all these restrictions. 0.94
00:02:32.140 And you're supposed to be humiliated as part of the ritual. 0.93
00:02:35.940 But then it became elastic, and later on, even the Muslims realized, rather than keep slaughtering these Hindus, let's get money out of it. 0.93
00:02:42.120 And they gave them the same status where they could just pay and maintain their religion. 0.82
00:02:46.860 Did any one of them that converted decide to retaliate against them? 0.77
00:02:51.060 Well, yeah, there were oftentimes lots of, I'll tell you one interesting story.
00:02:56.880 Successful retaliations, except from, we'll get to Spain here in a minute. 0.98
00:02:59.940 I'm talking about these Muslim majority countries, okay, that converted. 1.00
00:03:03.780 That are still Muslim.
00:03:04.580 That are still Muslim.
00:03:05.500 Was there any internal generals, leaders, defectors that are like, you know what? 1.00
00:03:09.460 I'm sick of what they did. 0.99
00:03:10.300 you killed my dad, you killed my mom, you killed my wife, I'm going to retaliate. 1.00
00:03:13.400 Was there any successful stories? 1.00
00:03:14.860 They're not successful, obviously, because they're still Islamic, 1.00
00:03:17.060 but there definitely were uprisings, even the Copts. 0.99
00:03:19.320 Why did they fail?
00:03:22.400 Well, that question goes hand in hand with why were the Muslims and the Arabs
00:03:26.580 so successful in one century as to conquer that humongous region that I described,
00:03:31.360 all of North Africa, Spain, and the Middle East.
00:03:33.840 That remains a mystery amongst historians.
00:03:37.020 The Muslim answer, of course, is Allah was with them,
00:03:39.620 And the Christian answer, the historic Christian answer is not unlike it because they said, yes, Allah was with them because he was punishing us for our sins. 0.66
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