Valuetainment - October 18, 2021


Was The Moon Landing Faked？ This Man Believes It Was


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00:00:00.000 My guest today is Bart Sabrawlin. You may remember him as the time where he approached
00:00:05.980 Buzz Aldrin and he asked him to put his hands on the Bible to swear as if they had landed on the
00:00:13.460 moon. He went around talking to a lot of people. I think there was even a documentary about it.
00:00:17.720 And then Buzz Aldrin got upset and punched him in. If you've ever seen that clip,
00:00:21.100 that's the individual I'm interviewing today. He just recently wrote a book
00:00:24.180 called Moon Man, the true story of a filmmaker on the CIA hit list. He was also the infamous man
00:00:33.260 behind the, I'm sorry, the show, the man behind the infamous funny things happen on the way to the
00:00:39.900 moon. He does not believe we landed on the moon. He thinks it's a hoax and a lot of other things are
00:00:44.980 hoax. We're going to see if we can figure this thing out by the end of today's interview. Having
00:00:48.120 said that, Bart, thank you so much for being a guest on Valuetainment.
00:00:54.180 So Bart, years have passed. Articles, videos, many people, powerful people have come out and said,
00:01:21.680 Bart, you have no clue what you're talking about. Tell us why you were so convinced that the moon
00:01:28.380 landing was a hoax and what gave you this idea that it was a hoax?
00:01:34.060 Well, I grew up as the biggest supporter of the moon landings. My dad was in the Air Force.
00:01:39.720 He was an officer. He got a packet at the time of the alleged moon landings of publicity,
00:01:46.020 nine by 12 color pictures. I had them up on my wall for 10 years, saw them every day from the age of
00:01:52.240 four to 14, which is 3,650 times. And then I saw a television show with this gentleman by the name
00:02:01.240 of William Casey on it. He worked as a contractor for Rocketdyne during the Apollo program for six
00:02:07.220 years. He had very high security clearances because he would edit communications going from
00:02:12.680 the top generals back and forth to correct their grammar and everything so they wouldn't look
00:02:17.340 immature. And so he saw a classified memo from Von Braun, who said the odds of going to the moon
00:02:24.620 successfully on the first attempt with 1960s technology was a one in 10,000 chance.
00:02:31.000 And so he saw all these departments being shuffled around all the time. Just as soon as somebody
00:02:37.920 got their full understanding of what they were doing, they would shuffle everybody around. They
00:02:43.340 were doing departmentalization so no one could see the full picture that the equipment certainly
00:02:48.040 couldn't do it. I mean, here's the simplest proof. It's simply logical. What they're claiming is that
00:02:54.100 they went a thousand times farther than they can send astronauts today, 50 years ago on the first
00:03:01.760 attempt with one millionth the computing power of a cell phone. I mean, when they flew across the
00:03:07.640 Atlantic for the first time, a few years later, hundreds of aircraft and thousands of aircraft
00:03:12.720 were flying across the Atlantic. When they went to the North Pole and South Pole here on Earth,
00:03:17.540 they never made it the first attempt. It took multiple times. And there's never been a
00:03:22.640 technological achievement that no one could repeat 50 years later. It's like me telling you
00:03:28.040 50 years ago, Toyota made a car that could go 50,000 miles on a gallon of gasoline. And yet today,
00:03:36.160 five decades later, their best car can only go 50 miles per gallon or 1,000th the distance.
00:03:42.340 You would laugh and say the original claim is preposterous. And so here we are 50 years later,
00:03:47.140 and now the farthest they can send an astronaut to the moon is 1,000th the distance that they claim
00:03:54.120 to have done on their first attempt 50 years ago with less computing power than a cell phone,
00:03:59.540 one millionth of the computing power. It just doesn't add up. It's the only technological achievement
00:04:04.460 that could not be repeated 50 years later. It's never happened. It's also the only time that they
00:04:10.840 deliberately destroyed a technology. I mean, the B-52 is 70 years old and there's still 200 of them
00:04:17.520 in service. And yet they admit they destroyed all the Apollo equipment and they're claiming they have
00:04:23.800 to go back to the moon and recreate it from scratch. They destroyed all the original videotapes,
00:04:28.360 all the original blueprints. You would never do that if you really went. You would only do that
00:04:33.480 if there was a fraud and you were trying to cover your tracks. So I started looking into it at a 14
00:04:40.500 year old thinking, Hey, you know, maybe the sky's right. I was open-minded 14 year old. And then 10
00:04:46.280 years later, I'd become a filmmaker and I was editing for the filmmaker who had produced the show. I saw 10
00:04:53.640 years earlier. I said, do you remember that guy on your show who said, we didn't go to the moon? No.
00:04:57.800 Call the San Francisco production office. I did. They said, Hey, look, if you called one or two days later,
00:05:02.820 we wouldn't be able to tell you because we're deleting all 10 year old archives. So I called
00:05:07.540 up the guy. He said, Hey, you know, you're a filmmaker. You should do a film about this. I
00:05:11.940 took off about six months. I found out that two of the three astronauts on the first mission
00:05:17.240 never give interviews. I found out that the administrator of NASA resigned days before the
00:05:23.640 first mission. It's kind of strange before you're putting this big feather in your cat.
00:05:27.720 I found out that the Soviets had launched the first satellite, the first animal, the first man,
00:05:32.620 the first woman, the first spacecraft, the first of two spacecrafts at the same time.
00:05:37.140 And they spent 500 hours in space for every 100 hours in space. And they never went to the moon.
00:05:43.880 And then I look at these shadows, you know, I'm a filmmaker. My job is to make fake scenes look real.
00:05:50.460 And I can tell you from showing you one simple photograph that, that the moon landings are
00:05:56.160 shot with electrical lighting. I mean, if you go out in sunlight, I can share my screen. If you want
00:06:01.240 shadows always run parallel, you and a friend go out on a sunny day, and you'll see your shadows
00:06:07.240 will never intersect. But in some of the moon pictures, they intersect at 90 degrees.
00:06:10.900 Do you have the pictures to show us to explain what you mean by it?
00:06:13.660 Yeah.
00:06:14.040 Take the lead. Let's see what you have. Let's, let's, and folks, if you're watching this right
00:06:18.460 now, put a thumbs up if you believe moon landing happened. Put a thumbs down if you don't believe
00:06:23.860 it happened. If the topic interests you, smash that subscribe button. But, Bart, show us what you mean
00:06:29.600 by this lighting. So, here is a picture that I took in sunlight. You'll see that the shadows,
00:06:36.020 because the sun is about a thousand times bigger in diameter than the earth, that it casts shadows
00:06:41.420 in the same direction over an entire continent, right? Here's a picture that NASA claims was taken
00:06:48.560 on the moon, okay? Here you see the shadows are from an object about five feet apart from one another.
00:06:56.780 Here's the astronaut's shadow going at 12 o'clock. Here's the shadow of a rock about five feet away.
00:07:02.460 It's going at nine o'clock. I mean, this is one, this is all the proof that you need
00:07:08.360 that the moon landings are fake. My job as a filmmaker is to make fake scenes look real.
00:07:14.540 I use electrical lighting all of the time. And when I looked at those pictures,
00:07:18.940 10 years after I had heard Bill Casey on television for the first time, when I was a professional
00:07:25.380 filmmaker, I said, these things are guaranteed 100% shot in electrical lighting. I mean, there it is
00:07:31.700 right here. This is all the proof that you need that we didn't go to the moon. And then, in the
00:07:37.340 course of making a funny thing happened on the way to the moon, we found classified footage of them
00:07:41.820 faking part of the photography right in front of your eyes. I can share that now or share that in the
00:07:46.920 future. Show it to us. Show it to us. You're on a roll right now. Let's see it. Okay. You just
00:07:51.440 messed up with our head today, but go ahead. You're on a roll. Okay. Well, here is, here's what I popped
00:07:59.120 in this tape and what was on the label of the tape and what was actually on the tape. Of course,
00:08:06.320 this is, this isn't a copyrighted film from me. A funny thing happened on the way to the moon.
00:08:10.840 I popped in this tape and researching my film and it said, do not show to the public. Okay. Mind you,
00:08:18.880 I had asked them for all the footage from just the first mission, figuring if they faked it,
00:08:24.880 there are more, they were more likely to have made a mistake the first time they faked it.
00:08:29.360 So I pop in this tape, it says, do not show to the public. Right. And then I'm going to cue up the
00:08:34.960 next shot of it here. And then I see this particular shot here of what is allegedly the blue earth
00:08:47.440 floating in space, because at this point in the mission, they're supposed to be 130,000 miles away
00:08:53.340 from the earth. And this is allegedly with the camera up against their window, shooting the earth
00:09:00.300 far away, which it's not. They were on the rocket, but they never left earth orbit. And what a surprise
00:09:06.320 here we are 50 years later, and they still cannot send an astronaut beyond earth orbit. Isn't that
00:09:12.420 amazing? I mean, when the question, when they were doing this, were you following the whole thing from
00:09:19.720 the day they left to the day they landed on the moon or no? Well, I was only four years old at the
00:09:25.080 time. I investigated this 30 years after the fact. Okay. So if you investigated, here's a question for
00:09:29.880 you. So when they left, this is, this is, uh, uh, when they left to go land on the moon from the day
00:09:36.380 they left earth, when did they land on the moon? How many days did it take to they landed on the moon?
00:09:42.080 Well, they allegedly left on the 16th of July, 1969, and allegedly landed on the moon four days later
00:09:48.160 on July 20th. This was the only fake footage that the astronauts faked themselves. Now the,
00:09:56.380 basically I gotten the same footage over and over again. I asked for unedited footage, but I didn't
00:10:02.020 get any except by accident. Bill casing thinks a whistleblower from NASA sent me this footage
00:10:09.160 intentionally. Okay. The, so when I hit fast forward in the machine, I kept seeing this same shot for the
00:10:15.980 full hour, which is kind of odd. Why would I see this little shot here of the earth floating in space
00:10:21.620 for a full hour? Because it was a special effect shot that they were trying to perfect. So I,
00:10:27.040 I rewound the tape, I hit play. Now I'm going to put, uh, the speaker up by my microphone so you can
00:10:33.260 take a little listen. And I heard the CIA talking to the astronauts on the tape. Take a listen.
00:10:38.680 Okay. So you just heard NASA talking to the astronauts. Hey, the TV picture looks great.
00:11:01.860 Then there's a four second delay. And then a third party, the CIA says talk. And then the astronauts
00:11:10.660 answer, Hey, the TV picture looks great. Well, they're really in earth orbit. So they heard them
00:11:16.520 right away. If they had answered right away, it would give away the fact that they're very close to
00:11:21.880 the earth. So they had an earpiece in and basically they were instructed not to answer NASA until four
00:11:28.440 seconds went by. So first they were at, asked the question, they counted off four seconds. The CIA
00:11:34.940 said talk, and then they started answering to give the impression that they were far away from the
00:11:41.080 earth when in fact they were still in earth orbit, which is where they stayed the entire time. And they
00:11:46.940 claimed, as you'll see from the next clip, or I could show that, that talk one more time, if you want to
00:11:52.380 hear it.
00:11:58.380 Yeah.
00:11:59.380 Right.
00:12:00.380 Go back in a bit.
00:12:02.380 He can edit this out if you want. This is from my documentary.
00:12:09.380 He can edit this out if you want. This is from my documentary.
00:12:12.380 He can edit this out if you want. This is from my documentary.
00:12:16.380 So whoever's saying talk, they're crystal clear. NASA has that radio EQ. The astronauts have that
00:12:39.380 radio EQ. But whoever said talk, you know, that's the CIA. They're very close. So basically,
00:12:46.380 they're trying to create a fake radio.
00:12:48.380 Now, why are they doing that? Why are they, what's the motive to fake this?
00:12:51.380 Okay, because they can't leave earth orbit. And so they have to show footage as if they've left earth orbit.
00:12:58.380 Okay, so if you go to the next clip here, right, this is of them claiming to be 130,000 miles away from the earth.
00:13:09.380 We only have one window that has a view of the earth, and it's filled up with the TV camera.
00:13:16.380 Okay, you just said they only had one window that faces the earth, and it's filled up with the TV camera,
00:13:22.380 right, which it would have to be. If this is really the earth floating in space, then they have to have the
00:13:29.380 camera's lens up against the window in order to shoot this, right? Here he is claiming, first he claimed that
00:13:36.380 the lens of the camera is up against the glass to shoot this. This is allegedly the earth floating in space,
00:13:42.380 and this is space around it. But you'll see in a minute, this is really the circular window of the
00:13:47.380 spacecraft with a section of the earth outside of it. And the cameras pulled back at the at the back
00:13:53.380 of the spacecraft with all the lights turned off, all of which they talked about because they thought
00:13:57.380 these private conversations would be edited out. Let's take a listen of him claiming that he's 130,000
00:14:03.380 miles away from the earth or halfway to the moon.
00:14:06.380 Okay, so right now he's claiming that this is a hundred and thirty thousand miles out.
00:14:14.380 Okay, so right now he's claiming that this is 130,000 miles out, that this is the earth floating in
00:14:21.380 space, right? And that he has the camera up against the windows glass. Hold on, let me try to put these
00:14:33.380 side by side. Okay, so here he is claiming on the left hand side that this is the earth floating in space.
00:14:42.380 And he also said that the camera is up against the glass of the window. But look on the right hand side,
00:14:48.380 where the recording they thought stopped, but it kept going. They also say on the tape that this is
00:14:54.380 for playback later, meaning it's not live like they claimed. Now take a look at the image on the right hand
00:15:00.380 side instead. Okay, so here you see the real position of the camera. This is the footage that we
00:15:08.380 uncovered that they said at the beginning, do not show to the public. This is proof that they're faking
00:15:14.380 being halfway to the moon. Here's a work light inside of the spacecraft. They put a crescent piece
00:15:20.380 of material inside the window to make it look like the Terminator line between night and day.
00:15:24.380 Here they are removing part of that. Those are the astronauts in front of the window, removing this
00:15:30.380 is a one foot model of the earth. You see that? Then we see the iris open up and we see the real
00:15:38.380 location of the camera being at the back of the spacecraft. You see that? So they just faked, they just faked
00:15:46.380 being halfway to the moon. See, this is
00:15:50.380 really the window of the spacecraft in Earth orbit with the bright Earth shine coming
00:15:54.380 through. But over here, they claimed it was the Earth floating in space. Do you see
00:15:58.380 that? We have the unedited version. That's why it said at the
00:16:02.380 beginning of the film, you know, do not show this to the public,
00:16:06.380 right? And, you know, they're claiming that they're 100...
00:16:10.380 How'd you get this footage? Well, Bill
00:16:13.380 Casey believes a whistleblower from NASA sent it to us. So basically, three and a half years into
00:16:19.380 the seven-year project of making a funny thing happen on the way to the moon, I discovered this
00:16:23.380 footage. This footage of the crew of Apollo 11 faking being halfway to the moon. Now, why are they
00:16:31.380 faking being halfway to the moon? Because they cannot go halfway to the moon. If they could really go,
00:16:39.380 we'd be seeing the real Earth out the window, and they wouldn't be faking
00:16:43.380 a one-foot model of it like they're
00:16:45.380 doing now. So if they're faking being
00:16:47.380 halfway to the moon, it means they cannot
00:16:49.380 leave Earth orbit. And what
00:16:51.380 a surprise, 50 years later,
00:16:53.380 they cannot leave Earth
00:16:55.380 orbit. It's largely because of a radiation
00:16:57.380 field that starts
00:16:59.380 at about a thousand miles up that
00:17:01.380 they would have to go through in order to reach
00:17:03.380 the moon. That radiation field is
00:17:05.380 25,000 miles
00:17:07.380 thick. And the only time in history
00:17:09.380 that someone has said to have gone through
00:17:11.380 it is the Apollo astronauts
00:17:13.380 to the moon and back. And
00:17:15.380 NASA's own Kelly Smith
00:17:17.380 says that the technology
00:17:19.380 to go through that radiation
00:17:21.380 has yet to be invented. I can show you a clip
00:17:23.380 from that if you'd like.
00:17:25.380 Alrighty.
00:17:27.380 We are headed 3,600 miles above Earth.
00:17:33.380 15 times higher from the planet
00:17:35.380 than the International Space Station.
00:17:37.380 Now what he's talking about is when they
00:17:39.380 sent an unmanned probe
00:17:41.380 into the middle of this radiation field.
00:17:43.380 As we get further away from Earth, we'll
00:17:49.380 pass through the Van Allen belts, an
00:17:51.380 area of dangerous...
00:17:53.380 radiation.
00:17:57.380 Radiation like this can inform the
00:17:59.380 guiding systems, onboard computers, or
00:18:01.380 other electronics on Orion.
00:18:03.380 Naturally, we have to pass through this
00:18:05.380 danger zone twice. Once up,
00:18:07.380 and once back.
00:18:09.380 Just like they did when they
00:18:11.380 went to the lil' univers...
00:18:17.380 But Orion has protection.
00:18:19.380 Shielding will be put to the test as the
00:18:21.380 vehicle cuts through the waves of radiation.
00:18:23.380 But Orion Has Protection.
00:18:25.380 Shielding will be put to the test as the vehicle
00:18:26.380 cuts through the waves of radiation.
00:18:30.380 The sensors aboard
00:18:32.380 will record radiation levels for scientists
00:18:34.380 to study.
00:18:36.380 We must solve these challenges before we send
00:18:37.380 people through this region of space.
00:18:39.380 We must solve these challenges before we
00:18:40.380 must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space so bart go okay so
00:18:47.440 the point about this is you can edit some of that out i didn't basically he's saying we must solve
00:18:52.700 these challenges before we send people through this region of space okay so basically the guy
00:18:59.680 just said that the technology to go through the radiation belt has yet to be invented first he
00:19:06.900 called them dangerous radiation this was from an unmanned probe i believe it was in 2016 the orion
00:19:12.900 project okay they sent an unmanned probe up there with two geiger counters they said it's a dangerous
00:19:19.880 radiation and he says we must solve these radiation challenges before we send people through this
00:19:26.600 region of space meaning the technology to send human beings to the radiation field has yet to
00:19:33.460 be invented you see that so i call up nasa i said let me talk to this guy i'm a journalist he said oh
00:19:39.200 no he didn't talk to journalists anymore since he made that mistake and i said well send me these
00:19:44.400 geiger counter readings right of the of the radiation belts and they said that's classified i said wait a
00:19:50.940 minute you sent probes to the sun to find out how much helium is in the sun those measurements are just
00:19:58.200 nature they're not classified you sent probes to jupiter to find out how much hydrogen is in jupiter's
00:20:03.720 atmosphere that's just nature so why would the amount of radiation in this radiation belt surrounding
00:20:09.840 earth why would those measurements be classified because if they release them it would prove that
00:20:16.140 they're deadly and they cannot go to the moon so basically i found this footage and making a funny
00:20:21.900 thing happen on the way to the moon and it proves that they're basically faking being halfway to the
00:20:28.600 moon right in front of your eyes and then we have the audio of the cia telling them how to do it because
00:20:34.800 they're still in earth orbit so if the radio signal goes up and back from 250 miles up they'll answer the
00:20:40.420 question right away but that would give away the fact that they're not 130 000 miles away as they claim
00:20:46.240 because it would take the radio signal more time to go out and come back that's why they had the
00:20:52.040 earpiece in and they counted off four seconds for them nasa said the picture looks great 1001
00:20:58.120 two three four talk and then he answers right after he was prompted to talk first of all nasa claimed
00:21:05.900 there's only two people on their channel that's a lie because there's the third party prompting them
00:21:10.540 to not speak until four seconds go by and why would they do that unless they're faking an increased
00:21:15.900 radio delay then we have nasa about five years ago admit that the technology to go through the
00:21:22.200 radiation belts has yet to be invented and no one asks well then how did the apollo astronauts go to
00:21:27.280 the moon and back and then you just you know when they made the atomic bomb 10 years later it was like
00:21:33.640 100 times more powerful and another 10 years later it was a thousand times more powerful this is the
00:21:40.120 only time in world history that technology has gone backwards if they really went to the moon on the
00:21:45.860 first attempt with one millionth the computing power of a cell phone they would have been on mars 10
00:21:51.020 years later they would have been in another solar system by now and there'd be barge let me ask you
00:21:56.540 this let me ask you this so okay so just just for everybody are you are you a flat earther yourself or no
00:22:03.280 no why would the earth be flat that's that's a ruse to discredit people no i'm just asking you so the
00:22:10.560 audience know this you don't believe the earth is flat no not at all okay i mean that when bill
00:22:15.800 casing was first on the oprah winfrey show he was my original source at nasa and he said they faked
00:22:21.300 the moon landing in order to discredit them they said oh then you must believe that the earth is flat
00:22:25.900 also you know i mean come on it the shape of the earth doesn't have anything to do with the corruption
00:22:31.580 let me continue let me continue so so a few things i'm going to take both sides of the argument
00:22:36.020 because this is how i get to the truth so i'm going to give arguments from both sides and then you
00:22:39.480 uh uh you know give your uh rebuttal to it and we'll go from there when when he said there's one
00:22:46.180 in 10 000 chance in 1969 technology they can land on the moon one in 10 000 is not a big number just so
00:22:52.580 you know like in my mind i don't go like you know because winning the lottery say one in 6.8 billion
00:22:58.540 whatever the number is that's like ridiculous one in 10 000 you know back in 19 what is that paper done
00:23:04.680 in 1903 the new york times said the chances of man flying a plane will take a hundred years of
00:23:10.480 what you've you've read the quote before which is like mathematically impossible then nine months later
00:23:14.740 the wright brothers flew plane so that one i would set that part aside 10 percent of americans today
00:23:20.860 believe that man never landed on the moon so this is not actually that you're quoting a unfortunately
00:23:26.940 that's a survey they always quote when they do an article about the people who who think the moon
00:23:31.600 landings are fake that that's from 22 years ago because the correct survey today which they don't
00:23:36.840 want to show is one out of four people we already have three out of four people 75 i'm sorry what do
00:23:44.060 you have that for you to say the correct one is one out of four what's the source oh there's been
00:23:49.620 multiple sources on that the problem is they're quoting an old one in order to diminish the growing
00:23:54.600 number of people who know that the moon land i know what i'm saying is what's the what's the updated
00:23:58.300 one who who is the what's the credit i don't you have to you have to i have it linked uh in the
00:24:03.300 references of my book i don't have that at hand at the moment the the point is that this is the first
00:24:08.840 time that technology has gone backwards in the history of the world now it's impossible it's
00:24:14.160 impossible for technology to go backwards how can we have one thousandth times greater we have one
00:24:21.520 thousand times greater capability yeah this is to the moon 50 years ago it doesn't make any sense
00:24:28.160 i'm looking at 10 percent pc mag is 10 percent uh this is from 2019 they're quoting a gallup poll
00:24:36.940 from 1999 they quote the same one all the time no 1999 the gallup poll was six percent so 1999 if
00:24:44.580 you can pull up this thing so we can show it as well while we're doing the editing in 1999 it was
00:24:48.960 six percent today it's 10 but still what i'm trying to say is 10 is a big number that's not a small
00:24:54.100 number 10 is still a big number to say 10 believe this never happened i there's some names that
00:24:59.120 always i think whoopee was on the list step curry was on those there's a lot of people on the list
00:25:03.140 of can you tell me big credible mathematicians doctors you know a famous power politicians
00:25:10.680 presidents who don't believe this event took place any major names that support that yeah bill clinton
00:25:16.020 on page 156 of his book my life he tells a story about when he was working with a carpenter back
00:25:24.520 in 1969 he said uh hey you know to the carpenter while they were building a house bill clinton said
00:25:31.180 to him hey in the moon landing great the carpenter said i don't believe them those television people
00:25:35.600 can make you think one thing when they're really doing something else and then he said after spending
00:25:40.620 eight years in washington he came to believe that the old man was ahead of his time meaning he also
00:25:47.340 agreed that the moon landings were fake it's very simple there's no independent eyewitnesses no
00:25:53.220 independent press coverage you know what i mean it's like uh they have a tv picture completely controlled
00:26:00.300 by the federal government and three government employees of the of the alleged greatest event in human
00:26:05.940 history i mean it's unbelievable that they're claiming that they went a thousand times farther
00:26:12.340 than they can go today 50 years ago with one millionth of computing power that they have today it's a
00:26:17.580 preposterous claim if it wasn't for people's emotional attachment to the patriotism or they it becomes a
00:26:24.800 religion for people look how great science is look how great we are they would accept they would already
00:26:30.860 acknowledge it can you can you walk us through what happened with the buzz aldrin incident you were you
00:26:35.080 were trying to do a uh you were setting them up you were speaking to a few different people kind of
00:26:39.180 walk us through what happened on that day well let me let me go back a little bit to the to the
00:26:44.680 progress here even though we're kind of doing this out of order uh basically when bill casing first
00:26:50.400 suggested that i do a film about this right which is when i was 24 years ago old it was about 30 years
00:26:57.400 ago i turned it down because i saw the shadows intersecting i saw the soviets were more advanced i saw two of
00:27:03.680 the three guys don't give interviews uh the administrator resigns they were the two guys that
00:27:09.560 didn't give the interviews i'm just curious well michael collins and neil armstrong they only make
00:27:15.680 very brief anniversary remarks every you know you know 10th anniversary or something like that buzz
00:27:21.960 aldrin does you know all the talking for them and i find that kind of odd if there were you know
00:27:28.060 three people who you know won a great sporting event and and two of the three refused to ever talk
00:27:33.960 about it i would find that kind of strange and if the administrator of that sporting event resigned a
00:27:40.700 few you know uh weeks before the first commission or first game of that series and there was you know
00:27:46.520 all this suggestion of fraud i would find that suspicious i mean that photograph of 90 degree shadows
00:27:52.900 from objects five feet apart it's electrical lighting there's no way to duplicate that in
00:27:58.000 sunlight it's impossible it means those pictures were taken here on earth so but i'm telling you 30
00:28:03.980 years ago it scared me because i personally i have kind of a relentless personality and i also love
00:28:12.720 puzzles we were talking about games before we got started i love games and puzzles and i said to
00:28:16.960 myself patrick i said look if anyone could figure out whether he went to the moon or not
00:28:22.020 it would probably be me and i said you know it looks like there's a good possibility that the
00:28:29.160 missions were fraudulent and so i turned down the project i said i want to have a wife and a family
00:28:35.460 someday why should i risk my life for other people's mistakes so i turned down the project
00:28:40.140 and then another client of mine a christian client said hey i'll get one of your scripts uh mr filmmaker
00:28:46.920 to a famous hollywood producer if you do me a favor i'm like sure they said read the bible
00:28:51.420 so i started reading the bible june 5th 1989 the day the man stood in front of the tanks in china
00:28:58.280 and it was a one-year bible divided into 365 reads and over the next five years i read the bible five
00:29:05.800 times from cover to cover and after that i realized you know there is a god there is good and evil
00:29:12.200 there is a judgment for how we live our life and i said to myself if they didn't go to the moon
00:29:21.020 that's more profound than if they'd actually gone think about this patrick let's say they could go to
00:29:26.440 the moon that would have a certain level of significance to mankind but if they couldn't go
00:29:31.040 they lied about it they murdered people to keep it a secret that's more profound than if they'd actually
00:29:37.360 gone and i said if they didn't go this is important for mankind to know otherwise we won't grow we won't
00:29:44.020 learn from our mistakes we'll be stuck in this corrupted world so i called up bill i said i changed
00:29:50.960 my mind i decided to make the film anyway well let me tell you these films cost one million dollars
00:29:56.880 and we were financed by a board member of an aerospace company who builds rockets from nasa
00:30:03.320 he knows from an engineering point of view that we didn't go to the moon and he said it was his
00:30:08.880 patriotic duty to finance these films to expose this fraud okay that's who financed our movie a board
00:30:15.740 member of an aerospace company building rockets for nasa who knows they didn't go to the moon plus i had
00:30:21.320 a guy who worked there for six years who said we didn't go to the moon but i still said well maybe
00:30:26.720 we'll find out but when i found that footage of them faking the shot of being halfway to the moon
00:30:32.040 with the cia telling them how to do it i'm like oh my gosh they really didn't go
00:30:36.460 and then it got you know even worse then i found a source okay who was actually there at the time
00:30:45.600 that they filmed it now this is what i'm releasing in moon man for the very first time he was personally
00:30:52.800 there at a particular united states base military base and he stood beside president johnson while they
00:31:00.960 filmed the faking of apollo 11 june 1st 2nd and 3rd of 1968 we're going to identify the code name for
00:31:08.960 the apollo project the military base where it was filmed and a list of 15 people he was the chief of
00:31:15.140 security at this base and he and they said only these 15 people were allowed in to eyewitness this
00:31:21.800 event he had that list and he gave it to me he confessed on his deathbed that he was there and some of
00:31:29.880 these people are still alive today and then in the course of finding this you know footage this proof
00:31:36.060 that we didn't go to the moon you know my phone calls were interrupted i started being followed and
00:31:41.580 at one point i was literally kidnapped and drugged by i presume the cia to the point where they were
00:31:48.660 asking me questions i they gave me true serum or something uh i told them everything they wanted to
00:31:54.580 know i escaped i took my urine sample to a lab uh to prove that i had been drugged illegally by this
00:32:03.340 some exotic true serum drug i call back uh or actually a friend does because i was trying to not
00:32:09.540 show if they were listening to my phone conversations that where i had gone but somehow they found out
00:32:15.260 anyway when my friend called the lab to get the results they said well we had a problem i said what was
00:32:21.320 that problem they said well there was a break-in over the weekend in our lab and they said the only
00:32:26.400 thing stolen was your urine sample you know so all of this you know it leads up to the second film
00:32:35.300 astronauts gone wild where i just had the thought you know from tv shows growing up hey why not ask
00:32:41.480 somebody to swear on the bible so we tracked down a lot of these apollo astronauts and asked them to swear
00:32:47.620 on the bible that they walked on the moon most of them would not do it one of them of course you know
00:32:53.400 punched me one of us one of them kicked me one of them threatened to shoot me one of them threatened
00:32:58.260 to hit me and one of them when i was in their house and they literally physically kicked me from
00:33:04.060 behind when my back was turned right after they said they're not a violent person so they can't even lie
00:33:08.620 not lie for five seconds and the commotion we left a wireless microphone on them yeah footage of all
00:33:14.780 the stuff do you have a yeah it's it's an astronauts come on they have it queued up right now if you
00:33:18.820 want to take a listen to it i'd love to see it and uh basically um let's see and you own this footage
00:33:27.580 right this is your yeah this is my my copyrighted film and so basically we left a microphone on this
00:33:34.380 guy my camera guy and the commotion of being threatened to be shot left the camera rolling in
00:33:39.560 the back of the car and when they went back inside their house with the doors closed
00:33:43.960 we heard their private conversations and you know because these are high quality microphones
00:33:50.100 they work for quite a distance and when the production secretary who was transcribing all
00:33:55.920 the interviews with the astronauts a month or so later she calls me up very excited says bart bart you
00:34:01.420 know what they're talking about in your in their house privately you know when you when the camera
00:34:06.280 was still recording said no tell me she says you're talking about calling the cia to have you
00:34:10.800 assassinated i said yeah that's funny just no bart no they're i'm serious i said yeah that's really
00:34:16.400 funny so no bart you're not listening i'm being serious and sure enough they're discussing calling
00:34:23.000 the cia to have me assassinated i'll queue it up right now the question is if they really went to
00:34:28.880 the moon why would they need to call the cia to have a journalist who's completely wrong assassinated
00:34:33.940 right so let me uh cue that up for you here
00:34:37.460 i have it here and here it is right here what do you think eric george what do you think did man land
00:34:46.200 on the moon
00:34:46.620 all righty so here's a clip from astronaut's gone wild where you can hear that live microphone
00:34:56.780 and i'll play it for you now
00:34:59.900 and there you have it do you want to call the cia and have him whacked
00:35:14.540 let me turn it up again who's that's whose voice that's the voice of the astronaut and his son talking
00:35:25.740 inside their house which astronaut collins or armstrong
00:35:28.900 that's edgar mitchell
00:35:31.900 that's edgar mitchell's voice yeah
00:35:37.420 now the question is if i'm a silly conspiracy theorist and i'm completely wrong
00:35:50.960 you know then why would they have to call the cia to have me assassinated
00:35:55.360 right
00:35:56.240 again if i'm a conspiracy theorist and i'm completely wrong and it's silly
00:36:00.980 why would they have to call the cia to have me assassinated
00:36:04.160 unless i'm a real investigative journalist uncovering a genuine and outrageous government fraud
00:36:09.320 the same way with buzz aldrin
00:36:11.060 okay
00:36:11.700 if he really walked on the moon me saying otherwise is like throwing a feather at the guy
00:36:17.280 why would someone become violently angry for throwing a feather at them
00:36:21.200 but what it was like is like me walking up to him in the company of his wife and saying
00:36:26.340 oh how's your mistress she says hello
00:36:28.600 then he gets angry and that's exactly what happened
00:36:32.240 i exposed his fraud i exposed this guy's fraud and that's why they become so violent
00:36:37.340 because they're known you know as heroes and that's you know the sad state of our country
00:36:42.040 they gave congressional medals of honor they had ticker tape parades for these guys
00:36:46.460 right
00:36:47.100 and some people say when you just see their expression
00:36:51.000 from the press conference
00:36:52.660 they're convinced that they didn't go to the moon
00:36:55.180 because they look like they're at a funeral
00:36:56.960 and so this is what moon man is about
00:37:00.260 not only how and why we didn't go to the moon
00:37:02.420 not only about my crazy adventures of being kidnapped and drugged
00:37:07.000 not only about naming the military base where it was filmed the dates the code name and a list of 15 people who were there
00:37:13.840 it's it says look they're these people and their apprentices are still at large running our government
00:37:20.180 this is a dangerous
00:37:21.720 when did you get that audio of edgar mitchell what he said
00:37:24.380 uh that was in 2003
00:37:26.640 and what'd you do with that audio
00:37:28.460 well we put it in the film the follow-up film called astronauts gone wild
00:37:33.340 no did you ever give that to the did you ever approach anybody and and you know share it with
00:37:40.320 you know the cops or anybody just to say here's what was said or no
00:37:43.480 no however when my source okay about naming the base okay the code name for the military base
00:37:53.260 and the list of 15 people who were there at the time some of whom are still alive today
00:37:58.360 okay and when i named all of this i confirmed this with that person's surviving family member
00:38:06.800 and when i did that a couple of days later their house was broken into
00:38:12.420 even though they had a security system with cameras they were somehow disabled
00:38:17.720 somehow they knew their password everything from their house about their relatives involvement
00:38:23.940 in the military and at this base was confiscated
00:38:27.700 and two or three days after that they were visited by two government agents who threatened
00:38:33.340 them and their family members with death if they ever spoke to me again
00:38:38.160 at that point i contacted the white house press secretary
00:38:41.720 i contacted the united states senator on the select intelligence committee
00:38:45.920 and i contacted the fbi near where this person lived to give them protection
00:38:51.080 i mean this is a very serious thing you have to understand ralph nader okay he wrote a book in the 60s
00:38:57.480 unsafe at any speed right and the ceo of general motors james roche admitted
00:39:05.080 that he had ralph nader followed by former fbi agents right simply to not spend money to put airbags and cars
00:39:15.920 so if i am exposing the most horrendous government fraud at least emotionally to the public
00:39:24.000 i think they might keep up with me and my sources and that's why i was drugged that's why this person's
00:39:31.720 life was threatened that's why all these things happen i mean i'm sorry i really wish we went to the moon
00:39:38.980 our world would be a much better place if people didn't have their emotional attachment i mean it's
00:39:45.360 it's like a religion to people how dare you say that the great moon landings are fake you know it's
00:39:52.500 unbelievable we right now we have 3 000 architects and engineers right who will go on the record
00:40:00.280 and risk their lifelong reputations and say the three buildings on 9-11 it's impossible for them to come
00:40:08.480 down with fires especially the third one and yet 20 years later nothing is done about it three
00:40:15.260 quarters of the american public says oswald did not kill kennedy nothing is done about it we have
00:40:20.680 john mcnamer admitting that the gulf of tolkien incident that led to over a million people dying
00:40:25.840 they completely made that up it never happened and it's like why is nothing being done we have
00:40:32.220 william benny who worked for the nsa for 30 years he says they listened to united states president's
00:40:39.260 phone calls supreme court justices phone calls senate and congress members phone calls in order to get
00:40:45.900 dirt to to blackmail them to voting a particular way they admit it this is even on a couple of
00:40:51.840 mainstream media outlets they admit this is a fact there's not a single congressional hearing
00:40:56.620 none about it you would well because the the evil people who run the world and our government
00:41:03.740 are so entrenched they they own the fbi they own the justice department this never happened what's
00:41:09.880 the big deal let's just say it never happened what is the big deal about us proving that this never
00:41:14.260 happened well if you go to chapter 11 of my book moon man you see what the achilles heel of all this is
00:41:22.280 i agree with you okay they fake going to the moon so what you know and if it weren't true what i'm about
00:41:30.600 to tell you i would agree with you okay but the fact is they murdered the crew of apollo one in order to go
00:41:38.820 to the moon apollo one was going to be the first crew to walk on the moon and they were murdered on january
00:41:46.360 27th 1967 it's not my opinion it's the opinion of the dead man's widow it's the opinion of the dead
00:41:53.800 man's son who was a 747 pilot they have investigated it for decades they are 100 convinced that that fire
00:42:01.520 that killed the man and two crew members with him the man who would have been the first man to walk
00:42:07.360 on the moon that that fire was set deliberately the basically gus grissom was the commander he was the
00:42:13.120 most beloved of all the astronauts because of a mercury problem he splashed down the explosive bolts
00:42:18.680 went off his spacecraft flooded he admitted at the press conference he had rolls of nickels in his
00:42:23.560 pockets to give to his son and school children to say this nickel has been in outer space but when he
00:42:29.160 started sinking to the bottom of the ocean with all that extra weight he said you know maybe it wasn't
00:42:33.100 such a great idea the press corps laughed and then somebody asked him they said were you afraid
00:42:39.520 and he said patrick of course i was afraid and everybody loved him he's telling he was the biggest
00:42:48.300 critic of the apollo one program he wrote to his senator he's wrote to his congressman he wrote to
00:42:53.820 every general saying they're not fixing anything a few minutes before he was burned alive they couldn't
00:43:00.000 get a wired intercom to work between two adjoining buildings he said guys how are we going to go to the
00:43:06.580 moon in two years if we can't get an intercom to work between two buildings he said i can't hear you
00:43:12.280 the intercom's not working you see and so he told his wife who i interviewed extensively okay that the cia
00:43:21.180 was all over the launch pad the day before the fire the cia went to his house and confiscated all of
00:43:29.500 his critical reports he was filing with congress before they even informed his widow that he was dead
00:43:35.080 they murdered the apollo one crew because he would not cooperate in faking of the moon landing so the
00:43:42.780 reason why this is a conspiracy obviously this has not been validated or it's not been this is a
00:43:49.120 conspiracy you're saying that they murdered the three gus edward and roger well it's not a theory
00:43:55.700 this is this is the valid lifelong opinion of betty and scott grissom they have done thousands of hours
00:44:03.560 of investigation i'm just sharing their opinion their opinion is the apollo one fire was set
00:44:09.620 deliberate okay right and they have forensic evidence to back it up so why would they burn alive why was
00:44:17.620 the cia there the day before the fire why would they kill these three men and then later fake the moon
00:44:24.640 landing because he wouldn't cooperate with it that's why he was he was he hung a lemon the size of a
00:44:31.480 grapefruit at the top of the spacecraft a few days before he burned alive said this thing is a lemon
00:44:35.820 he said we're 10 years away from going to the moon not to and he complained thousands of times you need
00:44:42.960 to fix this this this they never fixed any of it because they knew they were only going into earth
00:44:48.160 orbit and they had not yet informed the astronauts same thing with baron he was a whistleblower and he
00:44:54.940 did a report two reports for congress saying you know this this is not going to the moon by the end of
00:45:00.820 the decade and yet they claim they did something you know they're claiming they need 15 years to
00:45:07.980 return to the moon with five decades better technology than when they had an eight-year goal
00:45:13.040 to go to the moon before cell phones and microwave ovens they could do it in eight years now 50 years
00:45:19.080 later it's going to take 15 years to go what's the argument they're making today while we can't go
00:45:22.940 back to the moon while we haven't been back to the moon what's the argument what are they making but
00:45:28.340 they're making an argument what's their argument well they said they destroyed all the technology
00:45:32.860 therefore they have to build it all again well it only took them eight years last time you don't
00:45:36.760 understand i i mean reagan said they'd go back to the moon in five years never happened then the
00:45:42.580 president after him clinton said they'd go to the moon never happened george bush senior said they'd
00:45:47.100 return to the moon in five years never happened george bush jr said twice they'll go to the moon in five
00:45:51.880 years never happened obama said we'd go to the moon in five years never happened they said we're
00:45:56.800 gonna send an unmanned probe and they said they're gonna send an unmanned probe to orbit the moon
00:46:03.280 and that never happened they said that in in uh 2016 by 2018 we'll have an unmanned probe going around
00:46:09.740 the moon that never happened they can't even do that i mean did trump ever say we're going on the
00:46:14.300 moon we're gonna um i think he sent the goal of 2024 and they just said about i don't know three or
00:46:21.520 four months ago they can't do that either and china which is the most industrialized nation on
00:46:28.340 the planet says they need 15 years minimum in order to go to the moon so how come they could do it
00:46:35.380 50 years ago in eight years and now with five decades better better rocket and computer technology
00:46:41.080 they need twice the time to go to the moon it's illogical there's never been a technological
00:46:46.340 achievement that no one could repeat 50 years later never happened just crazy it was fraudulent
00:46:51.380 loch ness monster conspiracy or real i have no idea what does it matter i'm curious a bigfoot is
00:46:58.640 well i mean you know theoretically they're discovering i think in the ocean about 10 new
00:47:03.240 species a day and they've been doing that for the last 50 years so theoretically i suppose there could
00:47:08.780 be a you know a theoretically prehistoric creature deep down somewhere that's still alive that people
00:47:14.720 don't know megalodon is there megalodon or you you believe there's still a megalodon out there or no
00:47:19.540 i don't know what a megalodon is what is it you've never seen meg the movie you've never seen meg
00:47:26.560 listen bart what are you doing you're missing out on some great i'm writing books you know movies out
00:47:33.380 there my kid my kids would tell you it's one of the greatest movies of all time here's another
00:47:37.380 question for you i'm a i'm a i'm a man who believes in god but what do you say to people that
00:47:41.320 say let me get this straight you don't believe man landed on moon yet you believe in a god you've
00:47:46.880 never personally physically met before what do you say to that i've said those people need to read
00:47:52.460 two books the first one is called privileged planet and the second book is one cosmos under god
00:47:58.340 and they will see that mathematically the odds of there being life on earth or anywhere in the
00:48:04.620 universe is not likely at all it's like winning the powerball 20 times in a row remember what the
00:48:11.180 government says is generally the exact opposite of the truth they're trying to tell you that there
00:48:16.080 must be life everywhere but these two books show you there shouldn't even be life on earth that it
00:48:21.820 has to be by design there's no other explanation for it things don't make themselves cars don't make
00:48:27.520 themselves look at our body all the departmentalized organs doing their job the ear it's it's obviously
00:48:33.580 design now whether you can understand it or not doesn't matter intellectuals get so prideful
00:48:38.980 they say well if we can't comprehend it it must not be true well my dog i can open the hood of my car
00:48:44.040 and say this is the alternator this is the starter it will never understand a spark plug but it doesn't
00:48:49.560 mean that the engine wasn't designed by an intelligence higher than itself so the fact is
00:48:54.960 logic says they didn't go to the moon because it doesn't make sense that they could go a thousand times
00:49:01.960 farther than they can go today 50 years ago with one millionth a competing power of a cell phone that's
00:49:07.740 completely illogical it's the only time in history that technology went backwards it's the only time
00:49:12.380 in history that a technological claim couldn't be repeated 50 years later you have an audience of
00:49:17.080 two people here outside of you and i from the beginning of the interview to today eric does he
00:49:21.980 have you at all convinced that there's a possibility that the landing never happened moon landing never
00:49:26.620 happened no he hasn't changed your mind so you think it did happen i think it's like more likely
00:49:34.140 than it didn't more likely that it did instead it didn't this is a marine by the way george you're
00:49:38.480 you don't believe it ever happened so we're 50 50 right now we're 50 50 he also has not watched
00:49:44.260 i i i i would guess ask ask ask the believer if he's watched the funny thing happened on the way to
00:49:49.520 have you seen the funny thing happen george you've seen it before george have you seen it before or no
00:49:54.380 he's never watched it the one who there you go well four out of five people who previously thought
00:50:00.240 that the moon landings were reveal were real reverse their opinion after watching a funny
00:50:05.480 thing so then how about we do this how about we put the link to both the documentary and your book
00:50:09.940 below for people to be able to go order for themselves all you got to do is put up sabrell.com
00:50:16.460 they can order the book the book is interactive the book has 15 video links in it and it basically i do
00:50:24.980 a chapter or so i say look stop watch a funny thing happen on the way to the moon so you know what i'm
00:50:29.660 talking about stop watch astronauts gone wild stop watch nasa admit the technology to leave earth
00:50:35.680 orbit does not yet exist watch nasa admit that they destroyed the technology i mean imagine bill
00:50:42.020 gates spending 200 billion dollars to build the first computer and when he was done throwing all
00:50:47.760 the hardware the schematics all the records of it into the fireplace it would never happen they should
00:50:52.940 have done that with the atomic bomb but they didn't so why would they if they really went to the moon
00:50:57.300 and spent 200 billion dollars in today's dollars why would they throw that away they would never do
00:51:02.040 that but the fact that they did is proof that they didn't go because if they really went they would
00:51:06.040 never do it and if they were covering up the fraud that's exactly what they would do so there you go
00:51:10.580 there you go folks if you're uh i'm actually really curious to know what the commentary is going
00:51:15.760 to be if you if you flipped anybody in the last 45 minutes to an hour that we've been together
00:51:19.860 but regardless of it all i uh have more information on this topic than i did prior to coming on and
00:51:26.000 interviewing you and it's always a good thing we're going to put the link below to your website
00:51:30.500 where people can go and get all this content uh from your site having said that bark thank you so
00:51:35.920 much for being a guest on value tainment no problem appreciate you take care you too bye bye
00:51:41.620 are you convinced that we land on the moon or no has he gotten you to flip to the other side were
00:51:48.280 you thinking that way anyways curious you know if you thought yes the moon landing is fake like you're
00:51:52.460 agreeing with him give it a thumbs up if you disagree with him giving the thumbs down and i
00:51:56.020 got two other videos for you to watch one of them is with a gentleman i spoke that talked about space
00:51:59.840 as well michu kaku fascinating interview and there's another one i do with stephen greer who talks about
00:52:05.580 an experience he had with aliens very interesting doctor click here to watch that as well take care
00:52:10.560 everybody bye
00:52:11.100 bye
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