Valuetainment - May 14, 2025


"We Knew 9⧸11 Was Coming" – Whistleblower REVEALS Al-Qaeda Intel IGNORED By Bush Administration


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In this episode, we are joined by former Navy SEAL Team Six Chief Warrant Officer (Ret.) Erich Fromm to discuss the role of the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOCOM) in the 9/11 attacks. We discuss the impact of the attacks on the United States and the role played by the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JSDDO) in identifying the al-Qaeda cell phone network.

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00:00:00.000 when's the first time you guys met uh when i oh so i was i knew they were i was down there several
00:00:05.780 yeah well you didn't well let me explain so we were under SOCOM we were using the army and eric
00:00:12.320 can explain the army wanted to pull out by the way army did not like the fact we were using
00:00:16.800 their technology for our operations so why wouldn't they because well you want to explain that part of
00:00:25.020 it is when you're doing data mining you're harvesting everything for intelligence to
00:00:30.680 intelligence collectors are very restricted i mean on what we can collect it when the u.s persons
00:00:36.540 comes up but when a tool does it it gets everything and so you have to you have to be able to go through
00:00:43.120 that and excite all the information about u.s persons this is a throwback from vietnam days and
00:00:49.080 pike and church committee 75 that kind of stuff so they wrote these regulations for intel collection
00:00:54.580 but they never updated them well again because we were the first data mining operation we weren't
00:01:01.100 intelligence i know this is going to sound weird we were doing our effort under title 10 title 10 is
00:01:07.780 known as traditional military activities that's why i went to kurt as harm services not intelligence
00:01:13.560 to ask for money for the navy well you didn't come to me yes i did i was funding it through no no no
00:01:18.700 later later later later yeah later i mean so so and i plussed up their funding wherever they wanted
00:01:24.260 so but i didn't need to get right in it wasn't until 9 11 i get these frantic phone calls on my
00:01:29.000 cell phone from him from eileen pricer from scott philpot we have to meet you right away but i meet with
00:01:35.120 them on 9 11 and they roll out the charts that's the first time i knew that they had identified all
00:01:40.400 the al-qaeda cells in advance of 9 11 right right that's when i found out i took it right down to
00:01:45.320 the white house to steve hadley i called rice's deputy i said i've got to see you right away
00:01:49.760 i said he said we're under attack i said i have to see you i took dan burton with me dan burton was
00:01:55.040 chairman of the oversight committee and i took chris shays i rolled out the charts and steve hadley
00:01:59.720 deputy national security advisor said to me where did you get these from i said steve i've been telling
00:02:03.620 you since you came into office in january that this team was the cutting edge the clinton administration
00:02:09.480 ignored it you didn't take any action on it and this is what developed by them and he said to me
00:02:14.780 i've got to show this to the man i said the man at the time the president george bush he said i've got
00:02:21.760 to show it to them they took the charts and when in subsequent questions of steve hadley he's
00:02:27.420 acknowledged that i gave him charts but he says i can't remember what those charts were when i met with
00:02:32.380 seymour hirsch seymour hirsch told me those charts are still on the hard drive at the nsa that was
00:02:38.460 five years ago so my point i'm trying to make to underscore what kurt is saying we were an operational
00:02:46.780 unit that was designed to go do something we weren't an intelligence unit although we were
00:02:51.980 intelligence officers we were doing operations it's there it's called j3 versus j2 and that was one of
00:02:58.680 the controversial points because we didn't recognize the limits on u.s citizens because we
00:03:03.740 didn't have to traditional military activities title 10 is what george washington did during the
00:03:08.960 continental war the continental army what they did and so that was one of the controversial points
00:03:13.500 but the bottom line is kurt funded the advanced technology that we socom figured out how to get and
00:03:20.640 use that technology then used by by eric put together the the series of charts which then became the
00:03:28.200 basis for the plans we were using are those the charts those are some of the charts yes those are
00:03:35.100 the two primary charts they're they're not they're the charts that i was given by them the original
00:03:40.800 charts went to bush in the white house so what conclusion did you guys come up because we still
00:03:44.800 haven't talked about it right what conclusion did you come up with here's what happened here's the
00:03:49.080 best example read this book this is not them forget them this is this is the book about our one of
00:03:55.520 our top military generals who was on horseback he had like 9 000 soldiers under his command
00:04:00.980 and this book keith labor i'd never met general lambert i don't but i may be admitted this book
00:04:05.920 was a new york times bestseller and a movie on page 27 he's asked what were your thoughts when 9-11
00:04:11.660 happened and general lambert says in his own words you can read it within seconds i knew who had done
00:04:17.500 the attack i knew it involved muhammad adha because i had been briefed on a top secret army
00:04:22.820 intelligence program that's able danger none of that's in the 9-11 commission report and that proves
00:04:28.800 that what they were doing identified muhammad adha it basically calls everyone else a liar
00:04:35.500 and because general lambert says it in his book that he knew within seconds muhammad adha was involved
00:04:42.200 the 9-11 by the way free said afterwards that if he'd had the information we could have prevented 9-11
00:04:47.620 from happening by the way he was one of the individuals that the ig the dod ig refused to 0.59
00:04:53.320 interview why you're you're you're a guy that has to make investments if you have someone who's a
00:04:59.960 principal actor in a company uh who has a major role wouldn't you go and interview them before uh anything
00:05:07.780 else to figure out what's going on he was lambert was the chief of operations and they refused they
00:05:13.280 dod ig during the time that he asked them to investigate our claims they refused to talk to
00:05:18.020 lambert to this day to this day so so on the evening of 9-11 we were all on the phone with each other
00:05:24.720 because we knew it was coming we had deep conversations the entire time we were running
00:05:28.740 this operation that we knew something was coming so 9-11 happens we're all talking to each other
00:05:33.820 and the watch phrase was so it begins we knew this was coming out and that was you know you knew this
00:05:40.880 was coming we knew it was coming we were trying to you knew 9-11 was gonna we knew something we knew
00:05:47.140 something was coming they were coming offensively and they had already established a deep footprint
00:05:51.360 what were some of the things that you guys were speculating that could take place well was it 9-11
00:05:56.720 you weren't you wouldn't sit there and say guys someone's about to attack world trade center was that
00:06:01.600 it or was it no someone's gonna attack white house pentagon did you guys have the 5-10 targets
00:06:06.120 that you thought they're gonna attack we knew where the cells were at right we knew where they
00:06:10.060 physically were hanging out and where were those cells and uh they had different clusters one was
00:06:15.640 new york one was maryland and the other one was florida as i recall and they were all clustered
00:06:20.000 we had individuals linked to the al-qaeda leadership the top three new jersey new jersey new york new jersey
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