Valuetainment - ＂Were There Stand Down Orders？＂ - Israel-Hamas Meeting In Egypt IGNITES October 7th Speculation

00:00:00.000 So the Israel ceasefire that's taking place right now, I believe Witkoff and Kushner are on their way to Egypt to negotiate the deal and see what's going to be happening there.

00:00:09.680 But let me let me read a couple of these things and I will get them into it.

00:00:12.220 Rob, is that the one telling us that they're on their way there?

00:00:15.020 OK, go for it.

00:00:17.120 Overseas, President Trump's special envoy to the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, and the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, are headed to Egypt this morning, hoping to nail down a peace deal between Israel and Hamas.

00:00:27.780 It is an agreement that could end the war and bring home the remaining hostages taken in the October 7th terrorist attacks.

00:00:35.600 NBC's Matt Bradley has more from Tel Aviv.

00:00:38.140 Matt, what's the latest there?

00:00:41.880 Yeah, good morning, Willie.

00:00:43.160 So we're getting some new details starting to emerge from Israel about those negotiations that are set to begin tomorrow.

00:00:49.240 President Trump announced yesterday that Israel agreed to an initial line on the map for its eventual withdrawal from Gaza.

00:00:57.040 Now, once Hamas agrees, the president says the ceasefire and prisoner exchange will begin immediately.

00:01:03.840 Netanyahu himself, Israel's prime minister, addressed the Israeli public last night, saying he hopes that all of this will wrap up in these talks in just a few days, after which the remaining 20 living hostages will be returning home.

00:01:16.940 But there are still a lot of details to work out here, Willie.

00:01:19.380 So right here, a couple of things.

00:01:23.020 Tens of thousands of people are in the streets of Tel Aviv pressuring Netanyahu to close the deal on the hostage release.

00:01:28.280 Boom, that's taking place.

00:01:29.780 Then you have Witkoff and Kushner, which we just talked about.

00:01:32.600 And then you have President Trump issuing a new warning to Hamas to move quickly on hostage release or bets are off over peace deal.

00:01:39.020 Tom, your thoughts on what's going on here?

00:01:41.380 Well, there's a couple of things that are going on in Gaza that we saw over the weekend.

00:01:44.300 No speculation.

00:01:45.680 Everyone agrees.

00:01:46.660 All the news media, everybody's reporting it the same way.

00:01:49.540 Even news media doesn't like each other.

00:01:51.660 There is a street which is forming a line.

00:01:54.820 There's a map of Gaza and there's a street that says, hey, you can go from I think it's you can go from west to east down the street across the center of Gaza.

00:02:04.060 And there they have sirens going off and they have announcements of saying you guys got to evacuate.

00:02:08.860 You got to evacuate here to clear this out, this zone.

00:02:12.280 And I think, yep, the peace deal, yep, there's this section that I think Israel is going to go in there and saying, OK, any of you Hamas that don't want to get with points two, three, four, seven and nine, you know, on the peace deal. 0.75

00:02:27.780 Once all the citizens and everybody are out of there, we are going to sweep this thing if you're still there.

00:02:33.360 And I think this is basically the end of the end in this area.

00:02:37.760 And so that's what we're hearing.

00:02:39.540 The other thing is that Hamas didn't say absolutely no.

00:02:44.340 And there is a kind of a not a not quite a neutral, but Egypt in there allowing them to have a place to come talk about it.

00:02:52.680 So I see all of that as progress, but I'm still skeptical on Hamas.

00:02:57.140 But I think this is progress, number one.

00:03:00.340 And number two, I think it's really bad news for Hamas, because once this evacuation order and all this section and you and I looked at that map, that one street that goes straight across, man, everything that's inside there that is holding a gun and behaving badly.

00:03:13.640 You don't need an insurance actuarial table to determine what's about to happen to that.

00:03:17.460 They are going to sweep this thing.

00:03:19.140 Adam.

00:03:19.200 So by the time this episode comes out, it's tomorrow's October 7th.

00:03:24.040 So by the time a lot of people watch this, it'll be the one year anniversary.

00:03:27.040 I'm sorry, the two year anniversary of October 7th.

00:03:29.760 So I'll ask the following questions.

00:03:32.900 What did this war accomplish?

00:03:34.660 Because if you look at it from the Palestinian perspective, if you go back to October 6th, two years ago, literally today, two years ago, they were living in actual normalcy.

00:03:46.860 Now, you might critique the extent of which this quote unquote blockade was in Gaza, but they were free, you know, as much as that means.

00:03:58.400 As much as the Middle East area can be free.

00:03:59.960 There's literally no free place in the Middle East, which is the hypocrisy of free Palestine. 1.00

00:04:04.400 There's not one free place in the Middle East other than Israel. 0.80

00:04:07.060 But look at Gaza now.

00:04:09.700 How did this benefit the Palestinian people?

00:04:11.720 I feel horrible for these people.

00:04:12.960 Like anyone that doesn't view this as a humanitarian crisis.

00:04:15.760 Yeah, by the way, that right there is a drone shot of Gaza.

00:04:20.600 And I'm just trying to figure out, was Hamas hiding in every single building?

00:04:25.820 Hamas does a lot of booby traps. 0.74

00:04:29.240 No, no, no, Adam, hold on, hold on.

00:04:30.740 You cannot tell me that that is complete and total.

00:04:35.220 That looks like a nuke went off.

00:04:37.680 Like that's not even, that is insane.

00:04:40.560 So you're absolutely right.

00:04:41.640 And I would argue that this is exactly what Hamas wanted. 0.94

00:04:45.160 Think about that for a second.

00:04:46.720 Because I didn't say the Palestinian people.

00:04:48.900 This is what Hamas wanted. 0.93

00:04:50.080 Because they knew when they went in on October 7th and they killed all these people and took hostages.

00:04:58.240 You think this is their first time dealing with the IDF?

00:05:01.140 They've been feuding with these guys for years.

00:05:02.560 They know what they're doing.

00:05:04.300 They were willing to martyr their own people to sacrifice for their cause.

00:05:08.440 So October 6th, they were living in somewhat normalcy.

00:05:14.540 You see videos of, dude, Gaza is one of the most beautiful places on the planet.

00:05:18.600 Do you understand that?

00:05:19.640 Just north of it is Tel Aviv.

00:05:21.320 It's a gorgeous Mediterranean sea town.

00:05:25.160 But look at the town now.

00:05:26.780 So did this help the Palestinian people?

00:05:29.380 Not at all.

00:05:29.880 Did it help the Palestinian cause?

00:05:34.120 I would say yes.

00:05:35.660 So this, October 7th, was the best and worst thing to happen to Israel. 0.92

00:05:39.980 What do I mean?

00:05:41.180 Well, regionally, Israel is kicking everyone's ass. 0.90

00:05:46.880 Hamas, the Houthis, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad.

00:05:51.140 We see what's going on in Iran.

00:05:52.740 Everyone's lost, lost, lost.

00:05:54.680 Syria, Lebanon, Hezbollah.

00:05:56.040 But globally, this has affected the brand of Israel and even Jewish people for that matter.

00:06:02.700 So, you know, they say you can, you know, win the battle but lose the war.

00:06:06.320 There's a lot going on with that.

00:06:07.880 So I think from a Trump perspective, this is going to possibly be the biggest deal he's ever done.

00:06:13.020 If he can get this done.

00:06:14.500 The one gliver of hope that I do have is that Trump, remember when he went around the Middle East?

00:06:19.580 And he had all those, he went to Saudi, he went to Dubai, went to Qatar.

00:06:23.800 He had all these meetings.

00:06:25.440 What's the likelihood?

00:06:26.300 He said, guys, we got to end this war and I need your help.

00:06:29.360 And you hear him say, I want to thank Jordan.

00:06:31.780 I want to thank Egypt.

00:06:32.640 I want to thank Saudi.

00:06:34.080 I want to thank Qatar.

00:06:35.600 He's understanding that in order for this deal to get done, it's not about Hamas.

00:06:39.600 It's about the 99% of the rest of the Muslim Arab community that says, let's help you with this.

00:06:45.200 And if he can do that, there's a possibility of a ceasefire and a peace deal.

00:06:51.660 But I don't trust Hamas at all.

00:06:53.060 You're well read on this.

00:06:54.160 What do you think?

00:06:55.520 What do you think the effectiveness of the commission that will be led by Trump and Blair?

00:07:00.760 Because that's different.

00:07:01.820 There's never been like a like I don't want to say the word.

00:07:05.140 I'm going to say it kind of like a mini UN that they're establishing with world leaders from other places that are going to be in governance.

00:07:12.900 What do you think the potential for success with that?

00:07:15.280 Well, I trust Trump and Kushner and Whitcoff.

00:07:19.380 Tony Blair.

00:07:20.080 I mean, isn't he like I'm talking about the commission.

00:07:21.980 Yeah.

00:07:22.240 Isn't he partially responsible for what happened many years ago in the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan?

00:07:28.900 That's a whole nother conversation.

00:07:30.480 It's kind of like letting the wolf into the sheep's den.

00:07:32.980 But as far as the commission, I would love to see a coalition of like minded, moderate Arab states who saying we want stability in the region.

00:07:41.160 We all know the biggest, baddest actor in the region has been the Islamic Republic of Iran. 1.00

00:07:46.760 They've been defanged and we see what's going on with that.

00:07:51.260 But I think this coalition for regional stability is the most important coalition that Trump might have put together in the history of the Middle East.

00:07:59.640 The only downside is Hamas cannot be a part of it. 0.71

00:08:02.840 And Hamas is going to have a choice to say, do I really want to disarm and give these hostages back or do I want to literally rule a city of ashes?

00:08:11.680 And if you know anything about Hamas, they're a big believer in this thing called jihad and that trumps everything, so to speak.

00:08:21.060 Vinny.

00:08:21.780 Well, like you said, tomorrow is October 7th, two years.

00:08:24.600 I remember two years.

00:08:26.580 It was October.

00:08:27.360 I want to say ninth.

00:08:28.440 No, I'm sorry.

00:08:28.840 It was like a week after October 7th.

00:08:30.740 John Kirby under Biden said somebody was like, so how did this happen?

00:08:34.760 How could the most secure location on the entire planet have this attack happen?

00:08:40.900 They didn't know.

00:08:41.700 Six hours.

00:08:42.380 And you remember what he said?

00:08:43.560 Now's not the time.

00:08:44.880 It's been two years.

00:08:46.440 There's still nobody talking about how that happened.

00:08:49.600 I think to find out how we got here, we have to figure out what happened.

00:08:53.760 There's been no explanation of how that happened.

00:08:57.720 I saw Israeli IDF soldiers in Israel, and it's all in Hebrew with subtitles, and the guy is saying we got stand-down orders at the hours of this time and this time stand-down orders.

00:09:09.040 That guy needs to—I don't know what's happening in their courts.

00:09:11.760 Who would give that type of order to IDF soldiers not to respond?

00:09:16.920 It's almost like what's happening in Chicago.

00:09:18.100 Don't fight.

00:09:18.560 Don't fight.

00:09:18.940 Stay back.

00:09:19.320 So that has to be answered.

00:09:20.760 And I think this dragged-out two-year war, Adam, they were going to do this, in my opinion, regardless.

00:09:27.360 I think the anger—

00:09:29.000 They who?

00:09:29.260 They Hamas? 0.96

00:09:30.360 No, no.

00:09:30.760 I think BB—the goal was to wipe—like, I think the mission was to do this, but—and by the way, it's not anti-Semitism that's happening.

00:09:39.480 I think it's anger at the Israeli government.

00:09:42.000 If you were going to do it, do it.

00:09:44.100 You think should have came in and attacked.

00:09:45.580 What do you say about that?

00:09:46.460 I don't know.

00:09:47.740 You're saying that Israel would have done it anyway. 0.52

00:09:50.840 Destroy Gaza. 0.88

00:09:52.040 Yes.

00:09:52.480 It was going to happen regardless, Tommy.

00:09:53.900 There were two parts of Gaza, the part above ground and the part underground.

00:09:57.040 The part above ground, there was a huge percentage of people living in Gaza, including Jewish people, Israelis, that lived in Gaza.

00:10:06.400 So there was all the citizens that were living at peace and had a working economy, and you see all the pictures of that.

00:10:11.720 That thing we last saw there showed all the boats and everything.

00:10:16.800 Look at all the boats at the marina.

00:10:17.960 Look at this.

00:10:18.340 So it was a beach community, not like—

00:10:20.660 This is when?

00:10:21.320 Like Florida.

00:10:22.180 Yeah, this is before.

00:10:23.400 It's before and after.

00:10:24.540 Abdallah El-Hajji.

00:10:26.300 That was actually impressive, Tom.

00:10:27.900 But just to clarify, there were zero Jews living anywhere near Gaza.

00:10:31.240 Yeah, so that's why—

00:10:32.460 No, there was—

00:10:33.100 They're literally not allowed there.

00:10:34.200 No, they're not allowed in Gaza.

00:10:35.100 Wait a minute.

00:10:35.520 Talk about apartheid.

00:10:36.340 No, they're literally not allowed to go anywhere.

00:10:39.660 My point is being—

00:10:41.300 So you had the above ground community that had voted for the—

00:10:44.460 Well, let's go with your point.

00:10:45.520 Yeah.

00:10:45.720 Let's go with your point.

00:10:46.620 So, Vinny, your point is you're saying that they were going to do this regardless, is what you're saying.

00:10:54.980 Okay, there's multiple arguments because I've heard this on—what do you call it?

00:11:00.240 It's like a broken record.

00:11:01.620 Every time it's the same thing of how did you stand down?

00:11:05.060 We were one of the first podcasts to even address that with Charlie Kirk sitting exactly where you're sitting right now, right?

00:11:11.300 Okay.

00:11:12.040 So we got that.

00:11:12.820 And this is the clip.

00:11:13.460 If you want to press the first part, go ahead, Rob.

00:11:16.520 I've been to Israel many times.

00:11:17.660 The whole country is a fortress.

00:11:19.040 When I first heard this story, I still had the same gut instinct that I did initially.

00:11:24.700 I find this very hard to believe.

00:11:26.460 I've been to that Gaza border.

00:11:27.860 You cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF.

00:11:35.420 You can pass it right there.

00:11:36.160 So we address this, but this is where I'm going.

00:11:39.140 Where I'm going is, do I believe there was a stand down and for whatever reason they didn't come and get it?

00:11:45.880 I do.

00:11:47.000 Like, do I believe that?

00:11:47.980 I myself.

00:11:49.180 I do.

00:11:50.600 Because if your intel is that smart and that brilliant where you can send 5,000 pagers and you're discreative and you can get intel and, you know, Trump is like, I'm sorry, what are you doing?

00:12:03.480 Where are you?

00:12:04.000 I can tell you exactly where you're at.

00:12:05.380 Trump didn't get that intel.

00:12:06.420 He got it from Israel.

00:12:07.200 Mossad gave it to him, right?

00:12:08.820 So you can't be that good at not knowing.

00:12:10.240 However, that is one thing.

00:12:13.640 The other, the fact that they attacked, they imposed.

00:12:17.440 100%.

00:12:17.800 Okay.

00:12:18.300 So they imposed.

00:12:19.620 So they imposed their attack and this guy saying, oh, really?

00:12:22.200 This is what you want to do?

00:12:23.440 Let them.

00:12:24.260 Look what we're going to do to them.

00:12:25.300 We're going to destroy them.

00:12:26.740 Do I think an instance like that could have happened?

00:12:28.960 Yes.

00:12:29.520 But the reality of it is what?

00:12:31.360 They prompted it.

00:12:32.680 Oh, for sure.

00:12:33.480 So they prompted it.

00:12:34.280 So I know this whole thing is like, you know, you know, that it's still the lingering energy of, you know, this is all because of Israel. 0.98

00:12:42.880 This is all because of Israel. 0.95

00:12:43.940 This is all because of Israel. 0.95

00:12:45.380 Not the first domino.

00:12:47.060 The first domino is Hamas. 0.98

00:12:49.220 100%.

00:12:49.620 I agree.

00:12:49.900 The way to react, you can question the reaction and say, well, we would have done this.

00:12:55.780 We would have done that.

00:12:56.500 You know, sometimes when somebody wants to do something to you and you've told them many, many years, don't do this.

00:13:05.220 Don't do this.

00:13:05.840 Don't do this.

00:13:06.860 Eventually, you want to do it?

00:13:08.180 Let him do it.

00:13:09.260 Let him do it.

00:13:10.180 And then see what happens to him.

00:13:11.920 A kid screws up.

00:13:13.360 You tell him, don't do it.

00:13:14.240 You eventually are like, go ahead and put that thing in the, in the, what do you call it?

00:13:17.440 Electricity.

00:13:18.720 Go ahead and do it.

00:13:19.520 Just let him do it one time.

00:13:20.840 And he's like, I will never do that again, right?

00:13:22.940 How many more hundreds of times do I need to tell you?

00:13:24.860 Don't put it there.

00:13:25.620 So I think there was something there, you know, again, you could say, but that's evil.

00:13:29.760 That goes back to the Epstein story of Trump having the information and you having, it's not for the average day-to-day person.

00:13:38.900 And it's, it's a side of this job that you have to be ice cold.

00:13:42.220 I mean, what did Netanyahu do before he became the prime minister?

00:13:46.020 What did he and his brother do?

00:13:47.300 What wars did they fight?

00:13:48.720 No, not just Mossad.

00:13:49.700 These guys were Delta Force.

00:13:51.160 These guys were both highest ranking level Delta Force of Israel, killing, getting shot at his brother, died.

00:13:59.100 His brother died in the raid on Entebbe, which was a hostage rescue mission.

00:14:03.480 These are not some, you know, good-looking millionaire life that came out that, hey, this is what we're going to be doing.

00:14:10.720 They are as, like, I don't even know how to make the comparison of them in America, politically.

00:14:16.140 Tell me when's the last time we had a president that was Delta Force of Special Forces. 1.00

00:14:19.340 We never had one.

00:14:20.500 Tell me when's the last time we had somebody like that.

00:14:22.460 Like a Teddy Roosevelt or something.

00:14:23.900 No, but he wasn't.

00:14:24.520 Not this level.

00:14:25.900 Maybe Eisenhower's like the guy you have to go to that back. 0.59

00:14:28.360 Like, maybe even that.

00:14:30.020 Maybe.

00:14:30.160 But what I'm saying to you is, like, probably the best comparison to this is the George Washington-ish, like, guys from the beginning that just the way they got what they got is by,

00:14:45.520 we are a byproduct of America the first hundred years being very nasty. 0.53

00:14:49.740 How old is Israel right now?

00:14:51.840 1948.

00:14:52.780 So how old is Israel right now?

00:14:54.580 70-some years.

00:14:55.820 Okay, do the math.

00:14:56.960 Now it says 77 years old.

00:14:59.400 70, what is it?

00:15:00.760 Yeah.

00:15:01.460 So I'm 77 years old.

00:15:02.820 Correct.

00:15:03.120 So check this out.

00:15:03.700 If it's 70, what did America look like the first 77 years?

00:15:07.040 So go 1776, go into the 1850s.

00:15:11.000 What did America look like? 0.80

00:15:11.740 We kind of had a civil war just after that.

00:15:13.600 What I'm saying to you is, like, they're so in it that to say who you compared that to, we don't have people like that in America right now.

00:15:23.820 These guys are true, true believers.

00:15:26.200 They look at everybody else.

00:15:27.580 Even these guys, the only people they probably look at and say you're comparable to us is a Putin because Putin fought, Putin did.

00:15:36.320 They look at the people that were warrior leaders of a nation.

00:15:39.320 You don't have to agree with it.

00:15:41.220 You don't have to sit there and be, what are you saying, saying that still doesn't make sense.

00:15:47.540 How could you say something like that?

00:15:48.800 I totally get it.

00:15:49.700 These are ice cold people that responded to what Hamas did, and then they said, okay, you want to do that?

00:15:56.680 Let's wrap it up.

00:15:57.660 That's what I think happened.

00:15:58.960 Go ahead.

00:15:59.180 So let me ask you a question.

00:16:00.160 So it's been, and I'm sorry, because I want to know both of you guys.

00:16:02.600 So it's been two years, and what I'm saying, I know, like, this was the goal anyway, because, Pat, we're talking about Hamas, tunnels, hostages. 0.53

00:16:10.360 They're not going to give them up, okay?

00:16:12.240 Meaning this is going to be the fight that you're going to have regardless.

00:16:15.360 Do you think if Bibi and the Israeli government, Tom, like, gave everybody a week, guys, because they've killed, what, 67, how many thousands of innocent? 0.55

00:16:26.220 Well, relax, buddy.

00:16:27.340 Half of those people are Hamas.

00:16:29.280 So you're trusting Hamas' numbers? 0.96

00:16:31.800 No, no, I'm not listening to any numbers.

00:16:33.640 How do you have your numbers that you're saying half of them?

00:16:37.300 Well, how do you have your numbers?

00:16:38.640 Let's just say, I'll give you half.

00:16:40.220 You want to use that?

00:16:40.720 I'll give you half.

00:16:41.600 I'll give you half.

00:16:42.020 Now, 35,000, 30,000 innocent people are dead.

00:16:46.400 What's your point?

00:16:46.920 My point is that, here's my point, here's my point.

00:16:49.540 That war is nasty.

00:16:51.040 Do you think that, because everybody's saying that there's a bunch of anti-Semitism happening right now, I think it's anti-government. 0.72

00:16:56.520 If they went in and just did it, Pat, quick like that, do you think the people, like, the sentiment of the world would be angry, as angry as Israel now? 0.94

00:17:06.600 I'm just curious.

00:17:07.280 I think here's what you have to realize, okay?

00:17:09.020 And this is never going to go away.

00:17:12.320 I think you're talking to a community of 2 billion people who hate a community of 15 million people.

00:17:19.180 It's not 10x.

00:17:22.040 It's 150x of their people. 1.00

00:17:26.620 If there's one person in the room right now to speak on their behalf and 150 people on the other side, who are you going to believe?

00:17:33.160 You have 150 people.

00:17:34.120 That's what's happening to you.

00:17:36.500 No, but what I'm trying to say to you is that's what the world is going through right now.

00:17:40.740 But you understand my question, though?

00:17:42.460 If it happened faster, would there be that many angry people still?

00:17:45.740 But Vinny, let's get to the bottom of it.

00:17:47.420 That's not the bottom of it.

00:17:48.680 The bottom of it isn't that.

00:17:50.100 I'll answer Vinny's question.

00:17:51.280 But let me just say from my perspective, that's not it.

00:17:55.480 Because we'll go here, and then we'll go here, and then we'll go here, and then we're like, yeah, but isn't it that this?

00:18:01.020 No, no, just get to what you think is going on and what you really think is taking place.

00:18:06.080 Here's what I think is really taking place.

00:18:08.120 Okay.

00:18:08.940 Then say it if that's what you think is taking place.

00:18:11.480 But the reality of it is these guys, when you're saying, you know, they were eventually going to do it.

00:18:17.100 If you live next to a certain neighbor, Vinny, where every night you're worried for the safety of your kids, you're probably eventually going to do something.

00:18:27.200 Of course.

00:18:27.780 Okay, and that's what they're doing.

00:18:28.840 Yeah, and my point is why didn't it happen faster?

00:18:32.980 It's been two years.

00:18:34.080 You know what I mean?

00:18:35.420 Like, get to it.

00:18:36.300 Why didn't what happen faster?

00:18:37.400 Like, get in the tunnels and go kill.

00:18:38.880 Like, go for it.

00:18:39.800 Go get, do an underground mission.

00:18:42.500 Vinny, you're oversimplifying a hostage situation in a war-torn, ravaged area as if it's just like, come on, bro, let's get the hostages.

00:18:49.140 Adam, they're down to, did you hear what they said?

00:18:50.760 They're down to 20 alive hostages.

00:18:53.080 That means they've been torturing them and killing them.

00:18:54.960 So you've been waiting for two years.

00:18:56.780 I'm saying for the sake of the hostages, go and effing get them.

00:19:00.500 You don't think they've thought about that, buddy?

00:19:02.680 No, they thought about it, but Adam.

00:19:03.800 You think this is something they just came to the realization?

00:19:05.240 My point is it's taken two years.

00:19:06.700 Hey, guys, you probably want to get those hostages.

00:19:08.160 Two years.

00:19:08.540 That's been the linchpin in all of this.

00:19:11.220 By the way, that's a valid question as well that Vinny's asking.

00:19:15.680 Like, you know, game one of the Yankees against, who do they play?

00:19:19.340 Yankees played...

00:19:20.360 Blue Jays.

00:19:20.940 Not Blue Jays.

00:19:21.560 The one that they won.

00:19:22.640 Red Sox.

00:19:23.120 Red Sox.

00:19:24.100 He takes Jason Fried out after six and two-thirds or one-third.

00:19:27.060 I don't know what it was.

00:19:28.520 Six innings and a third, right?

00:19:29.920 He takes them out.

00:19:30.500 He's doing great.

00:19:31.660 And he takes them out and then they lose.

00:19:33.440 It's like, why'd you take them out?

00:19:34.300 Then the next game, the rookie guy's pitching Schlechter and he leaves them until the eighth

00:19:40.020 inning.

00:19:40.360 He pitches 12 strikeouts, right?

00:19:41.900 And you make adjustments.

00:19:42.880 And these are professionals.

00:19:44.160 Yeah.

00:19:44.460 Yeah.

00:19:44.800 That's a very valid question.

00:19:46.340 Maybe that was a mistake they made.

00:19:47.660 In a military, you're not going to get it right with everything that you're doing.

00:19:50.680 I agree.

00:19:51.000 Maybe that's a mistake that they made, but go ahead, Adam.

00:19:52.780 Wrap this up so we can get to the next story.

00:19:54.260 You talked about this whole concept of Hanlon's Razor.

00:19:56.480 Not everything is this coordinated, conspiratorial thing.

00:19:59.420 Sometimes things just happen.

00:20:00.900 Is that the whole premise of what you're talking about?

00:20:02.620 Hanlon's Razor?

00:20:03.320 No, Hanlon's Razor.

00:20:04.480 Hanlon's Razor is...

00:20:05.120 Don't chalk up, put together a coalition of things with just stupidity.

00:20:10.140 No, Hanlon's Razor is about don't think because that person's late because they're

00:20:15.340 disrespecting you and they don't respect you.

00:20:17.740 Don't think that everybody is trying to do bad things.

00:20:20.160 It's not malice.

00:20:21.140 Never attribute malice to which can inadequately explain the stupidity.

00:20:24.580 So meaning don't jump to conclusions.

00:20:26.140 Yeah.

00:20:26.580 So regarding what happened that day with Charlie Kirk, let me just address that.

00:20:30.980 Those questions of the total can totally be asked.

00:20:35.440 I have friends in Israel.

00:20:36.520 I have Jewish friends.

00:20:37.240 I have friends from all over the world that ask that question.

00:20:39.640 The point is that I've tried to emphasize is jumping to conclusions.

00:20:42.760 People are just jumping to a conclusion.

00:20:45.680 So October 7th, you asked like, why didn't they respond?

00:20:49.660 But on October 8th, the world started condemning Israel two years ago.

00:20:53.840 That to me was like, whoa.

00:20:56.180 On October 8th, when the hostages were just taken, they just killed 1,200 people.

00:21:02.380 The world was condemning Israel.

00:21:04.860 That was a big turning point for me.

00:21:06.240 I'm like, what?

00:21:07.560 Even if you don't agree with some of the political and geopolitical arrangements there, you're applauding Hamas and condemning Israel the day after this atrocity?

00:21:19.240 That to me was a telltale sign.

00:21:20.940 As far as this October 7th, you know, was it a stand down order?

00:21:25.420 Let's just address a couple of things.

00:21:27.440 What day did it happen?

00:21:28.340 On a Saturday morning, which is Shabbat, the Sabbath. 0.92

00:21:31.240 Charlie Kirk was writing a book about turning your phone off and observing the Sabbath.

00:21:37.100 A lot of people in Israel do that.

00:21:38.980 This was also a week after Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur on a holiday called Simcha Torah.

00:21:44.860 Meaning, it's like the highest holy holidays in Israel.

00:21:48.200 So if you're Hamas and you're going to attack, you're going to do it when everyone has their phones off during the holy month where they're not prepared. 0.88

00:21:56.460 Now, you could say, well, you should still be prepared.

00:21:58.860 The military doesn't stand down for holidays.

00:22:00.660 And I totally understand that.

00:22:02.440 They have to get heightened.

00:22:03.460 They get more heightened because they know that the enemy was going to try to do something.

00:22:06.000 Put it this way.

00:22:06.660 In Israel, if they take a Saturday off at this point, then you're sleeping on the job, homeboy.

00:22:10.780 But as far as people's commentary, in my humble opinion, if you've never been to that side of the world, I mean, you've never stepped foot in Israel, the Middle East, Saudi, Iran.

00:22:22.600 Shush.

00:22:23.740 You have no clue what it's like.

00:22:25.880 You have no clue what it's like.

00:22:27.680 If you're talking, if you're on a college campus and you've never been to that side of the world, time for you to shush.

00:22:33.020 Because the loudest people in the room are the woke white liberals, not the Middle Eastern community.

00:22:39.440 You don't see protests in Saudi.

00:22:41.800 You don't see protests in Dubai.

00:22:43.880 You don't see protests in Iran.

00:22:45.360 And if you do, those people are hung the next day.

00:22:48.000 It's always protests in white, woke, liberal countries that have been invaded by the Muslim Brotherhood. 1.00

00:22:54.640 So we're going to see what happens here.

00:22:57.640 Truly, truly, truly, I think there's a very small segment of the Palestinian people that actually want peace.

00:23:03.120 I actually don't think they want peace because they've had the opportunity to have peace deals for years and years and years and years.

00:23:09.960 And they've constantly rejected it because there's a phrase they've constantly said.

00:23:13.720 Tell me if you've heard this from to the river, to the sea, Palestine will be free, which means what thing?

00:23:19.480 They want it all.

00:23:20.720 So if there's a genocide going on, really, wouldn't you want a ceasefire immediately?

00:23:29.240 Like, stop the ceasefire.

00:23:30.700 They're like, well, let's wait and see if we like the deal or not.

00:23:34.040 Okay, I get that.

00:23:35.180 But if there's really a genocide, probably want to take this deal immediately, which goes to show it's all the genocide, all the apartheid, all this.

00:23:42.820 It's all talking points.

00:23:44.080 Like PBD said, there's 150 people saying, ceasefire now.

00:23:47.500 And there's one person like, yeah, okay, let's do it.

00:23:49.420 Give us the hostages.

00:23:50.320 They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:23:52.700 That's a little too much of a bargaining point here, buddy.

00:23:55.120 You want the hostages back?

00:23:56.640 So I think the truth will come out.

00:23:58.640 And if this happens, Trump will get a Nobel Peace Prize.

00:24:01.520 But I'm still not sold.

00:24:03.080 Let me tell you, the fact that they're doing this out there trying to make this deal happen, we hope it gets done and it gets done ASAP.

00:24:11.580 Because there's been way too much talk in wars for the last two years, whether it's them or Ukraine, Russia, we'd like to see this stop.

00:24:20.060 And by the way, both of those wars, just so everybody knows this, they both got started under a guy named Joseph Biden.

00:24:25.200 Joseph for one, no, they're not under Trump.

00:24:27.520 They got started under Joseph Biden.

00:24:29.320 And he has to now find a way to stop it.

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Valuetainment - October 06, 2025

＂Were There Stand Down Orders？＂ - Israel-Hamas Meeting In Egypt IGNITES October 7th Speculation

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