Valuetainment - June 28, 2026


"What's Nutritional About Coca-Cola?" – Congressman Grills SNAP Officials


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On today's show, we have a special treat for you! We have the results of a recent interview with the people running the food stamp program, SNAP. They were interviewed by a fellow named Brandon Gill. He asked the question, "What does SNAP stand for?" and they answered, "Is there nutritional value to sugary sodas?"

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00:00:15.640 Yesterday, in a hearing, the folks that are running Snap
00:00:19.920 are being interviewed by this fellow.
00:00:22.280 What is his name, by the way?
00:00:23.360 Oh, that's Brandon Gill.
00:00:24.380 First of all, he's phenomenal at what he does.
00:00:27.860 Superman.
00:00:28.340 I just want you to watch this SNAP.
00:00:30.140 Again, Tom, SNAP stands for?
00:00:33.060 Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
00:00:36.120 Okay.
00:00:36.840 Not Snapchat.
00:00:38.040 Right.
00:00:38.420 Food stamps on an EBT card.
00:00:40.600 That's right.
00:00:41.120 And he's asking one of the leaders on what it is.
00:00:44.780 And look at the response.
00:00:45.720 Go for it.
00:00:48.120 SNAP stands for?
00:00:49.240 What does SNAP stand for?
00:00:50.040 It's a Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
00:00:52.220 What's nutritional about Coca-Cola? 0.99
00:00:56.240 Look at her face.
00:00:57.860 I am not a nutritionist.
00:00:59.720 I am a food security expert in ensuring that individuals have the food resources that they need.
00:01:04.740 This is a common sense question.
00:01:06.660 All of these have been common sense questions.
00:01:08.860 I'm just asking you, is there nutritional value to sugary sodas?
00:01:16.660 It's a yes or no question.
00:01:20.940 I am not an expert.
00:01:22.040 I would have to look at the dietary guidelines.
00:01:23.480 You're not an expert.
00:01:24.180 Can you imagine giving an expert?
00:01:24.960 What does SNAP stand for?
00:01:26.380 Okay, now watch this other clip.
00:01:27.660 Because he continues.
00:01:28.620 He's got five minutes.
00:01:29.600 He's not done with her.
00:01:31.340 Watch this next one here.
00:01:32.640 This next one is difficult to listen to, but you'll enjoy it.
00:01:35.380 Is it an organization funded by organizations that make money from food stamps?
00:01:46.260 Her brains.
00:01:47.900 Do organizations who profit off of food stamps fund your organization or businesses?
00:01:56.000 I mean, I can't comment to that.
00:01:59.940 Happy to talk about the research that needed.
00:02:02.320 Does General Mills fund your organization?
00:02:06.140 I don't have access to that information.
00:02:07.900 I do.
00:02:08.420 It's right here.
00:02:09.360 They do fund your organization.
00:02:11.760 Do they profit off of food stamps?
00:02:14.560 Retailers are the major beneficiaries.
00:02:16.520 You think that that's a conflict of interest?
00:02:19.540 That's where EBT dollars are utilized.
00:02:22.600 Yes, and they're profiting off of your advocacy.
00:02:25.000 do you think that that's a conflict of interest he's good he's so good
00:02:30.300 she's just mom and sense i think most people think that's a conflict of interest i know you
00:02:36.480 don't want to answer is your organization what do you think about that tom what do you think
00:02:40.500 about that these are fair questions he's asking is there anything wrong with them promoting certain
00:02:46.920 companies that are funding your program is there a conflict of interest there in your opinion in
00:02:52.000 In my opinion, I believe there is a conflict, and I'll tell you where it is.
00:02:56.080 SNAP was created to help fill the gap for children and people who maybe have a job
00:03:04.260 but literally are living below poverty line of income,
00:03:07.860 and SNAP was supposed to help them bridge and fill the gap.
00:03:16.080 And the natural thing is whenever the government says,
00:03:20.340 i need an airplane five companies put out the bids they want to build the airplane
00:03:25.060 if the government says i have a food program to get food to people
00:03:29.480 50 companies want to go get food to people now general mills may make some you know things that
00:03:36.580 would be on rfk's updated food pyramid that would qualify as nutritional foods but there's also
00:03:44.400 other things in there everybody wants to be on the list pat if you're selling soda you're selling
00:03:49.760 granola bars that are just loaded with sugar you want to be eligible for people to buy that
00:03:55.680 and then they hide behind the following pat it's the consumer's choice no it's not if i'm giving
00:04:02.560 snap i want kids to get fruit i want them to get things that i want to take sugar off there i want
00:04:08.860 them to get milk i want to get you know a wholesome cheese i want to get things that are right i want
00:04:14.640 to get breads i want to get it and you could argue about the sugar and breads and everything but point
00:04:19.260 is i want to go to the food triangle and see can we get fruits and vegetables and things because
00:04:23.640 that's what the purpose of snap is and if you're i think there is a conflict if and that's why she
00:04:29.160 was sitting there pat there is and that's why she can't answer the question because the lobbyists
00:04:34.420 that are supporting her you know what we just saw here pat i just had an epiphany we just saw
00:04:40.380 hospices in la and we saw the cycle of government money intended for good gets used this way now
00:04:49.240 that's pure theft and fraud but this is she's got an advocacy group that's putting a snap program
00:04:55.560 out that's putting junk food out there and we wonder why kids are overweight we wonder why
00:04:59.940 there's childhood diabetes and she can't answer the question because those are her supporters
00:05:04.280 adam look uh have you ever been on a snap government assistance or food stamps you've
00:05:10.080 been on it yes why were you on it what do you mean why was i know we were on welfare when i
00:05:13.940 first came to the states got your family was on yeah of course when i was a kid i was a food stamp
00:05:18.120 kid really yes so you understand the importance of it right i of course we're not taking advantage
00:05:23.120 of it no exactly that's my point is i remember being on uh my first job out of college i worked
00:05:28.420 there for a year and a half and they let people go and i basically collected unemployment and
00:05:32.860 food stamps and let me just walk you through stamps as an adult i had food stamps at 22 years
00:05:38.700 old by the way joking no i'm not joking stamps at 12 years old what are you doing at 22 years
00:05:44.000 This is my point.
00:05:44.760 Okay, go ahead.
00:05:45.260 Let's hear it.
00:05:45.520 Is that when you're laid off, you know, you collect unemployment.
00:05:49.280 But keep in mind, it's been 20-something years since I've even considered this.
00:05:52.660 But let me walk you through the mindset of what happens.
00:05:54.240 When the government gives you something, you're like, oh, wow, I get paid to do nothing for basically six months.
00:05:59.660 Amazing.
00:06:00.500 Oh, I get food stamps?
00:06:02.000 Oh, good.
00:06:02.500 Let me get this.
00:06:03.920 Cool.
00:06:04.640 And then all of a sudden, you have this, like, sort of like angel and devil on your shoulder.
00:06:10.140 It's like, should I go out and get a real job and actually get my life together? 0.96
00:06:12.700 Or should I just basically suck off the teeth of the government for as long as possible? 0.94
00:06:17.280 And here's what happens. 0.97
00:06:18.380 The average person goes, I'll just take the free stuff.
00:06:21.180 I'll take this as long as I can.
00:06:23.360 Then the average person in America, I think, is that are on SNAP for 8 to 12 months.
00:06:26.580 Do you know what percentage of Americans use SNAP?
00:06:29.260 One in eight Americans, 42 million Americans use SNAP.
00:06:32.600 Okay, that's 12% of the population.
00:06:35.880 Here's my point.
00:06:37.600 It feels so good.
00:06:39.800 It feels something like, all right, let me do this.
00:06:42.700 because it's just it's free money it's free food and i understand that people need it
00:06:46.800 but the more that you give people the more that you give uh welfare the more they give welfare
00:06:51.260 checks you know like the welfare queen situation they become dependent on it and that's the problem
00:06:54.980 in america if you need it if you use it for a little while i get it but we have to stop it
00:06:59.200 limit we have to eliminate how long people are on it some people become relying on it and they
00:07:03.700 become relying on the government this is two different conversations though you took a very
00:07:07.300 different angle. I think what was the main angle with this is why are we allowing the money that
00:07:14.540 taxpayers are paying to buy the product of the organizations that are funding you? That doesn't
00:07:23.080 make any sense on what's happening over here. And by the way, do you know when they look at the life
00:07:27.780 expectancy of Americans versus other countries, you know what we rank? We're not looking good
00:07:32.400 against others. You know, Hong Kong, they live 85.8
00:07:34.660 years. Japan is 0.98
00:07:36.300 84.9. Switzerland's 84.4.
00:07:38.640 Australia's 84.1.
00:07:40.640 And a bunch of different countries are ahead of us.
00:07:42.300 You know where we are? 78.4
00:07:44.940 on some charts. Some
00:07:46.260 79. Italy's 84. Spain's
00:07:48.520 84. Canada's 83.
00:07:50.620 UK's 82. Germany's 81.
00:07:53.340 You know, a bunch
00:07:54.560 of these countries. Monaco's highest
00:07:56.260 at 89 years old, by the way.
00:07:58.280 Small little place. Didn't we just go down a year
00:08:00.560 or something we did we did go down here but why are we going down people were like because your
00:08:05.560 health insurance sucks nope it's not the health insurance that sucks the food we're feeding our 0.74
00:08:10.620 kids sucks well we're feeding our kids a bunch of sugar from early on and we're getting them 0.99
00:08:15.580 addicted to sugar sugar is just as addictive as any of these major drugs and for the rest of your 0.99
00:08:20.860 life you're fighting what what does sugar lead to diabetes so what do you mean you know you're
00:08:25.800 you can't give a basic answer that Coke is nutritionally, you know,
00:08:30.900 good for you or bad for you.
00:08:32.140 You know, it's funny, like, July of 2019 is the last time I drank soda.
00:08:37.780 Oh, wow.
00:08:38.160 No Coke Zero.
00:08:38.720 I used to drink three Coke Zeros a day.
00:08:40.240 Boom.
00:08:40.580 One day, Ian Benedict and I are having a conversation.
00:08:43.040 Gone.
00:08:43.420 I just, this summer, we were at Hamptons.
00:08:45.280 We're playing Padel.
00:08:47.560 Tikran and I have a conversation.
00:08:49.200 Tikran leaves.
00:08:49.900 Tikran's lost 45 pounds. 0.95
00:08:51.120 Tikran looks like a model from Europe. 0.96
00:08:53.140 He looks like a European model.
00:08:54.000 I can't wait to see him. 0.80
00:08:54.760 Oh, you won't even recognize him. 0.99
00:08:55.700 He looks ridiculous. 0.98
00:08:57.800 I'm going to transition. 0.99
00:08:58.640 He eliminated a lot of his, you know, sugar out of his –
00:09:02.100 he doesn't even drink Arnold Palmer, which to me it's a sin.
00:09:04.340 He doesn't drink Arnold Palmer.
00:09:05.660 I'm going to talk to him about that.
00:09:06.840 Yeah, that's it.
00:09:07.460 But he's like no, Pat, nothing.
00:09:08.980 And you should see what he eats.
00:09:10.780 You should see how intentional he is.
00:09:12.220 He's got the scale with the body fat percentage.
00:09:14.560 But also it starts with kids.
00:09:17.120 We think it's funny my kid likes candy.
00:09:19.760 I don't think it's funny.
00:09:21.420 We think it's funny, oh, she's got a sweet tooth. 0.94
00:09:24.340 white people say sweet tooth 0.58
00:09:26.320 she's got a sweet tooth, she's got a this 1.00
00:09:28.360 no sweet tooth 1.00
00:09:30.160 you gave them the sweet tooth
00:09:32.500 by introducing them to this stuff
00:09:34.480 and making it like it's
00:09:35.500 so I think the bigger concern here is
00:09:37.820 with kids starting early with diet
00:09:39.840 and I think that's what he was talking to her about
00:09:42.160 and so we'll see what happens
00:09:44.240 of course a lot of people are abusing the system
00:09:46.080 but for me
00:09:47.640 if I'm giving you money
00:09:49.540 to go eat, there needs to be
00:09:51.860 restrictions of what you can buy with this
00:09:54.100 the Snap that's been given to you.
00:09:56.140 So eliminate some of the restrictions.
00:09:58.100 No, you can't buy that.
00:09:59.880 There are certain restrictions.
00:10:02.440 You can't buy...
00:10:03.700 Coke is a restriction?
00:10:04.900 Listen, I'm not advocating for Coca-Cola.
00:10:06.560 I'm saying, but there are restrictions, meaning that...
00:10:08.240 You can't buy alcohol.
00:10:10.040 You can't buy tobacco.
00:10:11.340 What's weird is they don't let you buy hot prepared meals.
00:10:13.980 If you ever go to Publix, that's actually healthy.
00:10:16.920 Versus they'll let you buy chips, snacks, cookies.
00:10:19.200 Here's what you can't buy with Snap.
00:10:21.540 Can't.
00:10:22.420 Alcohol.
00:10:23.660 Cigarettes, tobacco, nicotine products, cannabis, and CBD.
00:10:26.620 Thank God.
00:10:27.040 Thank God, right?
00:10:27.680 Thank God for that.
00:10:28.020 Now, watch what else you can't buy with SNAP.
00:10:29.900 You can't buy vitamins.
00:10:30.840 Vitamins.
00:10:31.440 You should be able to buy vitamins.
00:10:32.580 You can't buy medicines.
00:10:32.600 You can't buy supplements.
00:10:33.680 You should be able to buy that.
00:10:34.400 You can't buy hot, prepared foods at point of sale.
00:10:37.240 You cannot use it at restaurant meals, right, when you go on certain places.
00:10:40.080 You can't buy pet food, which is probably a good thing.
00:10:42.900 That's good.
00:10:43.340 Feeding your kids cat food is not good.
00:10:45.700 Cleaning supplies, paper products, soap, laundry detergent, cosmetics, personal hygiene, live animals.
00:10:52.520 I cannot even believe they put that on.
00:10:54.140 No, literally it says you cannot buy live animals with limited expectations.
00:10:58.200 You can buy some fish.
00:10:59.400 So you can buy the live off.
00:11:00.800 You can take them home.
00:11:01.820 So to me, the question is, can you buy soda and candy in certain states beginning in 2026?
00:11:08.940 I love this.
00:11:09.880 You ready?
00:11:10.360 What state's leading this?
00:11:12.000 Florida.
00:11:12.880 Yeah.
00:11:13.420 Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, and Indiana have received USDA approval to prohibit snap purchases
00:11:19.480 of certain items such as soda, candy, some energy drinks,
00:11:23.780 and in some states, certain sweetened beverage or prepared desserts.
00:11:27.200 Good for you, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, and Indiana.
00:11:29.620 Nice. 0.95
00:11:30.100 I think three of them are red states.
00:11:32.120 I don't know if Indiana would be considered a red state.
00:11:33.800 Oh, yeah.
00:11:34.340 Okay, so there you go.
00:11:35.140 If you think SNAP is expensive,
00:11:37.540 wait till you see what it costs when these kids are diabetic and on Medicaid.
00:11:40.560 That's what I was just going to say.
00:11:41.560 And then what happens after that?
00:11:42.420 And then who's paying for that?
00:11:43.480 Big Pharma comes in, sells the Medicaid.
00:11:45.380 Oh, the taxpayers are paying for both sides.
00:11:47.480 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:11:47.960 The taxpayers bought them a soda.
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