Valuetainment - June 28, 2026


＂What's Nutritional About Coca-Cola？＂ – Congressman Grills SNAP Officials

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Patrick Bet-David
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Arnold Palmer Brandon Gill Ian Benedict Superman
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On today's show, we have a special treat for you! We have the results of a recent interview with the people running the food stamp program, SNAP. They were interviewed by a fellow named Brandon Gill. He asked the question, "What does SNAP stand for?" and they answered, "Is there nutritional value to sugary sodas?"

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00:00:15 Yesterday, in a hearing, the folks that are running Snap
00:00:19 are being interviewed by this fellow.
00:00:22 What is his name, by the way?
00:00:23 Oh, that's Brandon Gill.
00:00:24 First of all, he's phenomenal at what he does.
00:00:27 Superman.
00:00:28 I just want you to watch this SNAP.
00:00:30 Again, Tom, SNAP stands for?
00:00:33 Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
00:00:36 Okay.
00:00:36 Not Snapchat.
00:00:38 Right.
00:00:38 Food stamps on an EBT card.
00:00:40 That's right.
00:00:41 And he's asking one of the leaders on what it is.
00:00:44 And look at the response.
00:00:45 Go for it.
00:00:48 SNAP stands for?
00:00:49 What does SNAP stand for?
00:00:50 It's a Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
00:00:52 What's nutritional about Coca-Cola? 0.99
00:00:56 Look at her face.
00:00:57 I am not a nutritionist.
00:00:59 I am a food security expert in ensuring that individuals have the food resources that they need.
00:01:04 This is a common sense question.
00:01:06 All of these have been common sense questions.
00:01:08 I'm just asking you, is there nutritional value to sugary sodas?
00:01:16 It's a yes or no question.
00:01:20 I am not an expert.
00:01:22 I would have to look at the dietary guidelines.
00:01:23 You're not an expert.
00:01:24 Can you imagine giving an expert?
00:01:24 What does SNAP stand for?
00:01:26 Okay, now watch this other clip.
00:01:27 Because he continues.
00:01:28 He's got five minutes.
00:01:29 He's not done with her.
00:01:31 Watch this next one here.
00:01:32 This next one is difficult to listen to, but you'll enjoy it.
00:01:35 Is it an organization funded by organizations that make money from food stamps?
00:01:46 Her brains.
00:01:47 Do organizations who profit off of food stamps fund your organization or businesses?
00:01:56 I mean, I can't comment to that.
00:01:59 Happy to talk about the research that needed.
00:02:02 Does General Mills fund your organization?
00:02:06 I don't have access to that information.
00:02:07 I do.
00:02:08 It's right here.
00:02:09 They do fund your organization.
00:02:11 Do they profit off of food stamps?
00:02:14 Retailers are the major beneficiaries.
00:02:16 You think that that's a conflict of interest?
00:02:19 That's where EBT dollars are utilized.
00:02:22 Yes, and they're profiting off of your advocacy.
00:02:25 do you think that that's a conflict of interest he's good he's so good
00:02:30 she's just mom and sense i think most people think that's a conflict of interest i know you
00:02:36 don't want to answer is your organization what do you think about that tom what do you think
00:02:40 about that these are fair questions he's asking is there anything wrong with them promoting certain
00:02:46 companies that are funding your program is there a conflict of interest there in your opinion in
00:02:52 In my opinion, I believe there is a conflict, and I'll tell you where it is.
00:02:56 SNAP was created to help fill the gap for children and people who maybe have a job
00:03:04 but literally are living below poverty line of income,
00:03:07 and SNAP was supposed to help them bridge and fill the gap.
00:03:16 And the natural thing is whenever the government says,
00:03:20 i need an airplane five companies put out the bids they want to build the airplane
00:03:25 if the government says i have a food program to get food to people
00:03:29 50 companies want to go get food to people now general mills may make some you know things that
00:03:36 would be on rfk's updated food pyramid that would qualify as nutritional foods but there's also
00:03:44 other things in there everybody wants to be on the list pat if you're selling soda you're selling
00:03:49 granola bars that are just loaded with sugar you want to be eligible for people to buy that
00:03:55 and then they hide behind the following pat it's the consumer's choice no it's not if i'm giving
00:04:02 snap i want kids to get fruit i want them to get things that i want to take sugar off there i want
00:04:08 them to get milk i want to get you know a wholesome cheese i want to get things that are right i want
00:04:14 to get breads i want to get it and you could argue about the sugar and breads and everything but point
00:04:19 is i want to go to the food triangle and see can we get fruits and vegetables and things because
00:04:23 that's what the purpose of snap is and if you're i think there is a conflict if and that's why she
00:04:29 was sitting there pat there is and that's why she can't answer the question because the lobbyists
00:04:34 that are supporting her you know what we just saw here pat i just had an epiphany we just saw
00:04:40 hospices in la and we saw the cycle of government money intended for good gets used this way now
00:04:49 that's pure theft and fraud but this is she's got an advocacy group that's putting a snap program
00:04:55 out that's putting junk food out there and we wonder why kids are overweight we wonder why
00:04:59 there's childhood diabetes and she can't answer the question because those are her supporters
00:05:04 adam look uh have you ever been on a snap government assistance or food stamps you've
00:05:10 been on it yes why were you on it what do you mean why was i know we were on welfare when i
00:05:13 first came to the states got your family was on yeah of course when i was a kid i was a food stamp
00:05:18 kid really yes so you understand the importance of it right i of course we're not taking advantage
00:05:23 of it no exactly that's my point is i remember being on uh my first job out of college i worked
00:05:28 there for a year and a half and they let people go and i basically collected unemployment and
00:05:32 food stamps and let me just walk you through stamps as an adult i had food stamps at 22 years
00:05:38 old by the way joking no i'm not joking stamps at 12 years old what are you doing at 22 years
00:05:44 This is my point.
00:05:44 Okay, go ahead.
00:05:45 Let's hear it.
00:05:45 Is that when you're laid off, you know, you collect unemployment.
00:05:49 But keep in mind, it's been 20-something years since I've even considered this.
00:05:52 But let me walk you through the mindset of what happens.
00:05:54 When the government gives you something, you're like, oh, wow, I get paid to do nothing for basically six months.
00:05:59 Amazing.
00:06:00 Oh, I get food stamps?
00:06:02 Oh, good.
00:06:02 Let me get this.
00:06:03 Cool.
00:06:04 And then all of a sudden, you have this, like, sort of like angel and devil on your shoulder.
00:06:10 It's like, should I go out and get a real job and actually get my life together? 0.96
00:06:12 Or should I just basically suck off the teeth of the government for as long as possible? 0.94
00:06:17 And here's what happens. 0.97
00:06:18 The average person goes, I'll just take the free stuff.
00:06:21 I'll take this as long as I can.
00:06:23 Then the average person in America, I think, is that are on SNAP for 8 to 12 months.
00:06:26 Do you know what percentage of Americans use SNAP?
00:06:29 One in eight Americans, 42 million Americans use SNAP.
00:06:32 Okay, that's 12% of the population.
00:06:35 Here's my point.
00:06:37 It feels so good.
00:06:39 It feels something like, all right, let me do this.
00:06:42 because it's just it's free money it's free food and i understand that people need it
00:06:46 but the more that you give people the more that you give uh welfare the more they give welfare
00:06:51 checks you know like the welfare queen situation they become dependent on it and that's the problem
00:06:54 in america if you need it if you use it for a little while i get it but we have to stop it
00:06:59 limit we have to eliminate how long people are on it some people become relying on it and they
00:07:03 become relying on the government this is two different conversations though you took a very
00:07:07 different angle. I think what was the main angle with this is why are we allowing the money that
00:07:14 taxpayers are paying to buy the product of the organizations that are funding you? That doesn't
00:07:23 make any sense on what's happening over here. And by the way, do you know when they look at the life
00:07:27 expectancy of Americans versus other countries, you know what we rank? We're not looking good
00:07:32 against others. You know, Hong Kong, they live 85.8
00:07:34 years. Japan is 0.98
00:07:36 84.9. Switzerland's 84.4.
00:07:38 Australia's 84.1.
00:07:40 And a bunch of different countries are ahead of us.
00:07:42 You know where we are? 78.4
00:07:44 on some charts. Some
00:07:46 79. Italy's 84. Spain's
00:07:48 84. Canada's 83.
00:07:50 UK's 82. Germany's 81.
00:07:53 You know, a bunch
00:07:54 of these countries. Monaco's highest
00:07:56 at 89 years old, by the way.
00:07:58 Small little place. Didn't we just go down a year
00:08:00 or something we did we did go down here but why are we going down people were like because your
00:08:05 health insurance sucks nope it's not the health insurance that sucks the food we're feeding our 0.74
00:08:10 kids sucks well we're feeding our kids a bunch of sugar from early on and we're getting them 0.99
00:08:15 addicted to sugar sugar is just as addictive as any of these major drugs and for the rest of your 0.99
00:08:20 life you're fighting what what does sugar lead to diabetes so what do you mean you know you're
00:08:25 you can't give a basic answer that Coke is nutritionally, you know,
00:08:30 good for you or bad for you.
00:08:32 You know, it's funny, like, July of 2019 is the last time I drank soda.
00:08:37 Oh, wow.
00:08:38 No Coke Zero.
00:08:38 I used to drink three Coke Zeros a day.
00:08:40 Boom.
00:08:40 One day, Ian Benedict and I are having a conversation.
00:08:43 Gone.
00:08:43 I just, this summer, we were at Hamptons.
00:08:45 We're playing Padel.
00:08:47 Tikran and I have a conversation.
00:08:49 Tikran leaves.
00:08:49 Tikran's lost 45 pounds. 0.95
00:08:51 Tikran looks like a model from Europe. 0.96
00:08:53 He looks like a European model.
00:08:54 I can't wait to see him. 0.80
00:08:54 Oh, you won't even recognize him. 0.99
00:08:55 He looks ridiculous. 0.98
00:08:57 I'm going to transition. 0.99
00:08:58 He eliminated a lot of his, you know, sugar out of his –
00:09:02 he doesn't even drink Arnold Palmer, which to me it's a sin.
00:09:04 He doesn't drink Arnold Palmer.
00:09:05 I'm going to talk to him about that.
00:09:06 Yeah, that's it.
00:09:07 But he's like no, Pat, nothing.
00:09:08 And you should see what he eats.
00:09:10 You should see how intentional he is.
00:09:12 He's got the scale with the body fat percentage.
00:09:14 But also it starts with kids.
00:09:17 We think it's funny my kid likes candy.
00:09:19 I don't think it's funny.
00:09:21 We think it's funny, oh, she's got a sweet tooth. 0.94
00:09:24 white people say sweet tooth 0.58
00:09:26 she's got a sweet tooth, she's got a this 1.00
00:09:28 no sweet tooth 1.00
00:09:30 you gave them the sweet tooth
00:09:32 by introducing them to this stuff
00:09:34 and making it like it's
00:09:35 so I think the bigger concern here is
00:09:37 with kids starting early with diet
00:09:39 and I think that's what he was talking to her about
00:09:42 and so we'll see what happens
00:09:44 of course a lot of people are abusing the system
00:09:46 but for me
00:09:47 if I'm giving you money
00:09:49 to go eat, there needs to be
00:09:51 restrictions of what you can buy with this
00:09:54 the Snap that's been given to you.
00:09:56 So eliminate some of the restrictions.
00:09:58 No, you can't buy that.
00:09:59 There are certain restrictions.
00:10:02 You can't buy...
00:10:03 Coke is a restriction?
00:10:04 Listen, I'm not advocating for Coca-Cola.
00:10:06 I'm saying, but there are restrictions, meaning that...
00:10:08 You can't buy alcohol.
00:10:10 You can't buy tobacco.
00:10:11 What's weird is they don't let you buy hot prepared meals.
00:10:13 If you ever go to Publix, that's actually healthy.
00:10:16 Versus they'll let you buy chips, snacks, cookies.
00:10:19 Here's what you can't buy with Snap.
00:10:21 Can't.
00:10:22 Alcohol.
00:10:23 Cigarettes, tobacco, nicotine products, cannabis, and CBD.
00:10:26 Thank God.
00:10:27 Thank God, right?
00:10:27 Thank God for that.
00:10:28 Now, watch what else you can't buy with SNAP.
00:10:29 You can't buy vitamins.
00:10:30 Vitamins.
00:10:31 You should be able to buy vitamins.
00:10:32 You can't buy medicines.
00:10:32 You can't buy supplements.
00:10:33 You should be able to buy that.
00:10:34 You can't buy hot, prepared foods at point of sale.
00:10:37 You cannot use it at restaurant meals, right, when you go on certain places.
00:10:40 You can't buy pet food, which is probably a good thing.
00:10:42 That's good.
00:10:43 Feeding your kids cat food is not good.
00:10:45 Cleaning supplies, paper products, soap, laundry detergent, cosmetics, personal hygiene, live animals.
00:10:52 I cannot even believe they put that on.
00:10:54 No, literally it says you cannot buy live animals with limited expectations.
00:10:58 You can buy some fish.
00:10:59 So you can buy the live off.
00:11:00 You can take them home.
00:11:01 So to me, the question is, can you buy soda and candy in certain states beginning in 2026?
00:11:08 I love this.
00:11:09 You ready?
00:11:10 What state's leading this?
00:11:12 Florida.
00:11:12 Yeah.
00:11:13 Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, and Indiana have received USDA approval to prohibit snap purchases
00:11:19 of certain items such as soda, candy, some energy drinks,
00:11:23 and in some states, certain sweetened beverage or prepared desserts.
00:11:27 Good for you, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, and Indiana.
00:11:29 Nice. 0.95
00:11:30 I think three of them are red states.
00:11:32 I don't know if Indiana would be considered a red state.
00:11:33 Oh, yeah.
00:11:34 Okay, so there you go.
00:11:35 If you think SNAP is expensive,
00:11:37 wait till you see what it costs when these kids are diabetic and on Medicaid.
00:11:40 That's what I was just going to say.
00:11:41 And then what happens after that?
00:11:42 And then who's paying for that?
00:11:43 Big Pharma comes in, sells the Medicaid.
00:11:45 Oh, the taxpayers are paying for both sides.
00:11:47 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:11:47 The taxpayers bought them a soda.
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